King Nigel Resigns from UKIP

[arista]

What a Fella


Give him a TV show on CH4HD


http://news.sky.com/story/1721382/nigel-farage-steps-down-as-leader-of-ukip

[Denver]

Snap him up CBB

[bots]

lol for how long

[arista]

Xsnap him up CBB



YES CH5HD . Viacom



Get In there

[Cherie]

Who will replace him, Nigel is UKIP

[Northern Monkey]

Well his job is done now.What a great man.One of the greatest politicians and speakers of our time.He managed to acheive his life goal which not many politicians can say.

[arista]

Who will replace him, Nigel is UKIP



Doug


or a Lady

[joeysteele]

Not sorry to see him go, however he is right, the Conservative party may have delivered the referendum from its position of govt but it was only really done because of his efforts and conviction to this cause of getting the UK out of the EU.

As for the campaign he helped fight from his side,that is a very different matter.

Good luck to him in what he does in the future and I personally don't share his optimism now for UKIP generally,unless the Labour party does really split apart.
Really,in my opinion, Nigel Farage was UKIP, it took him a long time to get what he wanted and now he has gone I believe the door can be more or less,hopefully in my view,closed on UKIP.

[arista]

Well his job is done now.What a great man.One of the greatest politicians and speakers of our time.He managed to acheive his life goal which not many politicians can say.



Yes Celebrity Big Brother Ch5HD/Viacom
get the Cash Up Front , please.

[Cherie]

Doug


or a Lady


Not another lady :joker:

[arista]

Not another lady :joker:


Yes its not up to Nigel


Sue Evans can return


I like a Strong Lady

[Toy Soldier]

UKIP is surely redundant now anyway. Their entire platform is based around... UK independence. The UK has voted to leave now, so what else is there to say? What else is there to argue for?

[arista]

UKIP is surely redundant now anyway. Their entire platform is based around... UK independence. The UK has voted to leave now, so what else is there to say? What else is there to argue for?


NO NO NO
TS


not until contract 50 has Finished

[Toy Soldier]

Well, Nigel seems to think it's all done with.

Either that or he's getting his head well down before the sh*t really hits the fan.

[arista]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2016/7/4/475700/default/v3/cegrab-20160704-101252-139-1-736x414.jpg

Nige please take the Cash from Viacom /Ch5HD
it will put Ch5 Worldwide

[Northern Monkey]

I don't think there is much need for UKIP anymore unless the political elites try playing silly buggers with our referendum.Then UKIP would rise massively.However i think for now as far as we know UKIP's mission is complete.

[y.winter]

None of them are actually willing to dip their toes in the Brexit aftermath. It's ridiculous.

[kirklancaster]

A SAD RESIGNATION SPEECH BY NIGEL FARAGE FROM THE WAR ROOM
4th July 2016.

“I have, myself, done my patriotic duty, and have full confidence, that if all do their duty, if nothing is neglected, and if the best arrangements are made, as they are being made, we shall prove ourselves once again able to defend our Island home, to ride out the storm of those whinging 'Remainers' who cannot accept Democracy and who try to irrationally alter the constitution instead of rationally altering their misguided opposition to the freedom which the Referendum result restores to the British people, and to outlive the menace of tyranny which is at the core of the EU, if necessary for years, if necessary alone.

At any rate, that is what we as a Nation have done. That is the resolve of the British people and that resolve must now be echoed by Her Majesty’s Government-every last man and woman of them. That is the will of the people and the Nation and Parliament must now do its duty and embrace that will and enforce it.

Great Britain is 'Great' - not because its 'Leaders' have led according to their choices, but because those Leaders have listened to the people and led this great nation in direction which its people have chosen to move in.

We are still a part of Europe, just not the EU, and linked together, in cause and in need, together, we will defend to the death our native soils aiding each other like good comrades to the utmost of our strength.

Even though large tracts of Europe and many old and famous States have fallen or may fall into the grip of the new EU Gestapo and all the odious apparatus of Nazi type rule, we shall not flag or fail.

We shall go on to the end, we shall fight for France and other enslaved Europeans to follow our example and leave the festering mess which is the EU.
we shall fight on the seas and oceans,
we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be,

we shall fight on the beaches,
we shall fight on the landing grounds,
we shall fight in the fields and in the streets,
we shall fight in the hills;

we shall never surrender against those who seek to keep us enslaved to the corrupt tyrants in Brussels, and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this Island or a large part of it were to become subjugated and starving, then I know, that those who voted for Brexit, armed and guarded by the TRUE FACTS about the EU, would carry on the struggle, until, in God’s good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old.”

WE WILL NEVER SURRENDER."

[joeysteele]

I don't think there is much need for UKIP anymore unless the political elites try playing silly buggers with our referendum.Then UKIP would rise massively.However i think for now as far as we know UKIP's mission is complete.

I agree and they haven't in my view got that much of calibre of leadership possibles.

[Toy Soldier]

None of them are actually willing to dip their toes in the Brexit aftermath. It's ridiculous.
Yep even Mr Brexit Farage himself. "Yaaaayyyy we did it, out of Europe!! What's that? What do we do now? Well I don't know I just wanted out of Europe. Roll credits, lights on, don't forget to bin your popcorn box on the way out."

[arista]

None of them are actually willing to dip their toes in the Brexit aftermath. It's ridiculous.


No we will have Conservative Team
doing Contract 50


Its good we are doing it (starting Contract 50) ,This Year
: Ref: PestonITV1HD - T.May Live 3/7/16

[Mitchell]

Bye wanker

[joeysteele]

No we will have Conservative Team
on doing Contract 50


Its good we are doing it ,This Year
: Ref: PestonITV1HD - T.May Live 3/7/16

That would be really wrong and will cause more friction and division across the UK.

I also do not think article 50 will be triggered this year at all,I doubt further the govt or anyone will even have an idea of the best way forward,if there even is one.

[kirklancaster]

Bye wanker

???? Cameron has not gone yet????

[y.winter]

Looks like no politician would really want to be associated with the upcoming farce and utter mess that is leaving the EU. It's a political suicide and a dirty job.

[arista]

Looks like no politician would really want to be associated with the upcoming farce and utter mess that is leaving the EU. It's a political suicide and a dirty job.


Wrong he is a UKIP MEP


Not Conservative

[arista]

Doug was live on 27mins Daily Politics
BBC2HD


He is Not Standing as a Leader.

[Alf]

Someday in the future, it could be 10, 20, 50, 100 year's time, I'm predicting he'll go down in history as one of the truly great Britain's.

[Toy Soldier]

“During the the referendum I said I wanted my country back … now I want my life back,”

I my I my I I I my my my me me me want want want.

Man of the people, pff.

[arista]

Someday in the future, it could be 10, 20, 50, 100 year's time, I'm predicting he'll go down in history as one of the truly great Britain's.


For sure

[Black Dagger]

Good ****ing riddance

[Alf]

Good ****ing riddanceI hope he had the time of his life.

[arista]

Good ****ing riddance


He is still a MEP

But no longer Leader

[Johnnyuk123]

Well his job is done now.What a great man.One of the greatest politicians and speakers of our time.He managed to achieve his life goal which not many politicians can say.

Perfectly sums up what i was thinking. He gave us our country back and i can't thank him enough for putting the uk people first.
Well done Nigel. :clap1::clap1::clap1:

[Tom4784]

Good, the lying rat can return to his home in the sewers where he belongs.

[arista]

Good, the lying rat can return to his home in the sewers where he belongs.



No he is still a normal MEP
just NOT LEADER


Also ideal for Celebrity Big Brother
for Viacom Cash Cow


Dezzy - you need a Massage



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[Withano]

Cus when you create a task you cant complete, hide and run.

[Withano]

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/nigel-farage-resigns-quits-ukip-brexit-boris-johnson-david-cameron-eu-referendum-a7118806.html

[kirklancaster]

Yeah Nigel - Sign up for CBB and earn some honest cash - It's far better than ALL your opponents who have enriched themselves by £millions through the EU Gravy Train.

But your detractors do not like FACTS.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Cus when you create a task you cant complete, hide and run.

he did complete

people on here think he is a mp?

idgi

[Withano]

he did complete

people on here think he is a mp?

idgi

Lol. What do you think is complete? Lol? Serious question?

[Headie]

Lol bye

[Withano]

Cameron, Johnson and Farage have quit to save their integrity. None of them actually want to help pull Britain out of the EU. There is no plan and they're scared ****less.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Lol. What do you think is complete? Lol? Serious question?

what "he" said a referendum and a leave vote

job done

[Withano]

what "he" said a referendum and a leave vote

job done

A refferendum is not a job done at all. A referrendum can be overthrown. A referrendum is about one tenth of one job. And even then it could still be worth nothing.

[joeysteele]

Cameron, Johnson and Farage have quit to save their integrity. None of them actually want to help pull Britain out of the EU. There is no plan and they're scared ****less.

I'd say there is a lot of truth in that statement withano.

[Crimson Dynamo]

A refferendum is not a job done at all. A referrendum can be overthrown. A referrendum is about one tenth of one job. And even then it could still be worth nothing.

Its what his aim was and its job done, hence his resignation.



Maybe you want the England Iceland game replayed to see if England win this time?

:think:

[Crimson Dynamo]

and to try and say that Farage, The PM and Bojo resigned for the same reasons (Boris did not resign from anything) is laughable

:joker:

[Withano]

Its what his aim was and its job done, hence his resignation.



Maybe you want the England Iceland game replayed to see if England win this time?

:think:

The **** are you on about, there is no completed job and this isnt comparable to football. A refferendum is only a guideline. Coming out of the EU is what the man promised and he intentionally quit 4 months early.

[Cherie]

The **** are you on about, there is no completed job and this isnt comparable to football. A refferendum is only a guideline. Coming out of the EU is what the man promised and he intentionally quit 4 months early.


If I see the referendum compared to a sporting event which be reprised next year, the year after, in four years time etc :facepalm:

[Crimson Dynamo]

The **** are you on about, there is no completed job and this isnt comparable to football. A refferendum is only a guideline. Coming out of the EU is what the man promised and he intentionally quit 4 months early.

And what was it that you were wanting him to do before he resigned at a time that was convenient for you

rather than him and his family?


:umm2:

[Mitchell]

???? Cameron has not gone yet????

I was on about the vile cretin that is Farage

[Crimson Dynamo]

If I see the referendum compared to a sporting event which be reprised next year, the year after, in four years time etc :facepalm:

You both totally miss the point of the comparison

the comparison is about how people still cannot believe that they backed a loser in a 2 horse race and are still rummaging around for the dummy they spat out


:hehe:

[Withano]

And what was it that you were wanting him to do before he resigned at a time that was convenient for you

rather than him and his family?


:umm2:

Nobody ever said that. Im calling a spade a spade, you're calling a spade the most magical piece of equipment to ever be created ever.

The man promised a job and the man intentionally quit that job to save his integrity like Johnson and Cameron because he knew the task was too big and too dangerous.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nobody ever said that. Im calling a spade a spade, you're calling a spade the most magical piece of equipment to ever be created ever.

The man promised a job and the man intentionally quit that job to save his integrity like Johnson and Cameron because he knew the task was too big and too dangerous.

Johnson has not quit anything and Cameron is till PM

:shrug:

[Withano]

You both totally miss the point of the comparison

the comparison is about how people still cannot believe that they backed a loser in a 2 horse race and are still rummaging around for the dummy they spat out


:hehe:

The comparison doesnt make sense though. England could lose on penaltys and theyd lose. Full stop. Either side of the in or out campaign could lose 90:10 in the refferendum and theyd still win because the refferendum is not law biding at all.

[Withano]

The mans a coward and he will not be missed by 75% of the population. The other 25% will always love him regardless of his actions and I find that just a bit sad.

[Mitchell]

Someday in the future, it could be 10, 20, 50, 100 year's time, I'm predicting he'll go down in history as one of the truly great Britain's.

I think the total opposite.

[Cherie]

You both totally miss the point of the comparison

the comparison is about how people still cannot believe that they backed a loser in a 2 horse race and are still rummaging around for the dummy they spat out


:hehe:

Nope because we all forgot about England participating in the Euros the day after they exited :smug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nope because we all forgot about England participating in the Euros the day after they exited :smug:

I thought you were Welsh?

:suspect:

[Cherie]

I thought you were Welsh?

:suspect:

I am now yes

[arista]

Lol. What do you think is complete? Lol? Serious question?


Nigel is still a MEP.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_of_the_European_Parliament

Keeping a Eye on the Dirty Euro Scams

[y.winter]

Saying that his job is done once the referendum finished is quite playing dumb.
Leading the Leave campaign is saying "we should leave, put your trust in what I say and I'll lead you safely through it when it happens". If the almighty Farage, who fought for the Leave, can't take carrying on - the message that comes across is problematic.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Saying that his job is done once the referendum finished is being quite playing dumb.
Leading the Leave campaign is saying "we should leave, put your trust in what I say and I'll lead you safely through it when it happens". If the almighty Farage, who fought for the Leave, can't take carrying on - the message that comes across is problematic.

He didnt lead the leave campaign

[y.winter]

He didnt lead the leave campaign

He's UKIP, it's enough. The fact that he isn't BoJo doesn't mean that he doesn't have anything to do with it.

[Shaun]

Give it a week...

[joeysteele]

He didnt lead the leave campaign

That is a fair point, it was Boris Johnson that led the leave campaign really.

It is a fact that cannot be disputed however that it is Farage and his efforts who won this referendum in the first place.

No way would any of the other parties have offered one voluntarily.

[kirklancaster]

Lol. What do you think is complete? Lol? Serious question?

1. For 17 years Farage has been a lone HONEST voice 'crying in the widerness' trying to warn us and educate us about the corrupt EU and the damage it was doing and is doing to the UK.

2. Like all men of vision, he has suffered 17 years of unwarranted abuse from idiots who cannot see the TRUTH in what Farage was saying, nor beyond the well co-ordinated, unrelenting spin and rhetoric of the ESTABLISHMENT and their multi-National Corporate cronies who have benefited by HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF POUNDS from the EU Gravy Train, and saw Farage as a threat to the continuance of their not-so-little scam.

Twisting Farage's words, painting him as a xenophobic racist, when all he has ever been is a PATRIOT and MAN OF TRUTH, became an industry funded by those above who all have vested interests in 'conditioning' the public into believing that campaign of lies.

BUT - despite everything - the public have a great propensity for the truth, and a lot of them started to see beyond the rhetoric and spin, and simply by WITNESSING what was happening RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEIR EYES in their OWN neighbourhoods, they RECOGNISED that Farage WAS, indeed telling the truth.

Thus, Nigel's Truth gained traction, which led us to the MAJORITY of those who voted, DEMOCRATICALLY electing for the UK to LEAVE the EU CESSPIT.

3. Not being an elected BRITISH MP, and NOT having the power to broker in any of those constitutional imperatives which are mandatory for a prosperous, peaceful, post Brexit Great Britain, Nigel recognised that having almost single-handedly LED THE UK OUT of the EU CESSPIT, his job was done, and it was time to make up for all those lonely years of sacrifice and spend some time with his family.

It is sheer lunacy for ANYONE to accuse Farage of 'quitting and not seeing Brexit through' - Which IDIOT would want RESPONSIBILITY without AUTHORITY - It is a recipe for disaster.

Farage should be lauded and applauded and he ACTUALLY is by the MAJORITY of ordinary working class Britains - who have the intelligence to see beyond the B.S. campaign against him.

[Crimson Dynamo]

He's UKIP, it's enough. The fact that he isn't BoJo doesn't mean that he doesn't have anything to do with it.

His aim was to get a referendum and let the people speak. He did and they have. Job done.

[Mystic Mock]

Who will the right wing media fornicate over now from that disgusting party?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Who will the right wing media fornicate over now from that disgusting party?

what party do you like Mock?

[Withano]

1. For 17 years Farage has been a lone HONEST voice 'crying in the widerness' trying to warn us and educate us about the corrupt EU and the damage it was doing and is doing to the UK.

2. Like all men of vision, he has suffered 17 years of unwarranted abuse from idiots who cannot see the TRUTH in what Farage was saying, nor beyond the well co-ordinated, unrelenting spin and rhetoric of the ESTABLISHMENT and their multi-National Corporate cronies who have benefited by HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF POUNDS from the EU Gravy Train, and saw Farage as a threat to the continuance of their not-so-little scam.

Twisting Farage's words, painting him as a xenophobic racist, when all he has ever been is a PATRIOT and MAN OF TRUTH, became an industry funded by those above who all have vested interests in 'conditioning' the public into believing that campaign of lies.

BUT - despite everything - the public have a great propensity for the truth, and a lot of them started to see beyond the rhetoric and spin, and simply by WITNESSING what was happening RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEIR EYES in their OWN neighbourhoods, they RECOGNISED that Farage WAS, indeed telling the truth.

Thus, Nigel's Truth gained traction, which led us to the MAJORITY of those who voted, DEMOCRATICALLY electing for the UK to LEAVE the EU CESSPIT.

3. Not being an elected BRITISH MP, and NOT having the power to broker in any of those constitutional imperatives which are mandatory for a prosperous, peaceful, post Brexit Great Britain, Nigel recognised that having almost single-handedly LED THE UK OUT of the EU CESSPIT, his job was done, and it was time to make up for all those lonely years of sacrifice and spend some time with his family.

It is sheer lunacy for ANYONE to accuse Farage of 'quitting and not seeing Brexit through' - Which IDIOT would want RESPONSIBILITY without AUTHORITY - It is a recipe for disaster.

Farage should be lauded and applauded and he ACTUALLY is by the MAJORITY of ordinary working class Britains - who have the intelligence to see beyond the B.S. campaign against him.

I genuinely do not believe he is racist, i think hes pretty unfairly got that label because many racists were hired for UKIP and the rests of Britains racists support them. But I do not believe he is one.
As far taking responsibility.. yes.. Contrary to the way he behaves, hes a grown up and was a party leader until he pussy footed his way out of it (still would be the leader if OUT lost the campaign). He should not be applauded for quitting. Obviously. He's let a lot of people down.

[Mystic Mock]

A refferendum is not a job done at all. A referrendum can be overthrown. A referrendum is about one tenth of one job. And even then it could still be worth nothing.

Especially when the result is such a tiny majority, and the percentage of people that will want to leave will decrease each year that it goes by as well.

[Mystic Mock]

what party do you like Mock?

Tbh none of them.

The lesser evil for me if done properly is the Lib Dems as they're in the middle like my own policies.

Too left = too soft
And too right = what we've got now

[Withano]

What it comes down to is that there was a refferendum and the three main figures of both sides of the campaign are stepping down from responsibility because of the result.

Id imagine more are likely to step down before it gets to October but the three main faces resigning from their presumed posistions should be telling enough.

If you're not at least a tiny but curious about the pattern, you need to sit down and think for a night.

[MB.]

Bye Felicia!

[bots]

Nearly everyone that I speak to?

And ask Kirk about the evidence where the working class like Farage? The only people that like Farage are the elderly that want their Britain back from when they was younger.

this persistent ageism is quite ridiculous. How many times now have you said derogatory things specifically about older people?

[Crimson Dynamo]

this persistent ageism is quite ridiculous. How many times now have you said derogatory things specifically about older people?

lots

:idc:

[Withano]

this persistent ageism is quite ridiculous. How many times now have you said derogatory things specifically about older people?

Its not ageism, ukip voters are older, less educated and poorer

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2013/03/05/analysis-ukip-voters/

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/07/04/14/35EEA51B00000578-3673363-Caught_on_camera_Rupert_Murdoch_tries_to_raise_a_s mile_while_sto-a-1_1467637818915.jpg

Nigel yesterday chatting to Rupert Murdoch and and billionaire Evgeny Lebedev. He had a spot of lunch with them and Liam Fox.

[microscope]

It's a very sad day to see such a great man have to make this decision and I am sure he doesn't make this decision lightly. Without doubt he would have received threats coming his way from a minority of pro-remain campaigners and possibly against his family to, so best to leave now, just to be on the safe side.

I agree with what he said in his speech that there isn't a lot more he can do after Brexit, especially with the odds on Theresa May become the next Conservative leader and her pro-remain views and she is just a carbon copy of David Cameron really and her heart lies with the money-people of the UK and making sure we remain in the single market - no matter what those little Hitlers in Brussels demand of us, such as free movement of people without limitations.

The future is not rosy at all with her at the helm and if Nigel stayed as leader of UKIP, the battle would just continue.

[Rob!]

Best political news in a long while. Hopefully he'll now disappear off the face of the earth.

[Cherie]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/07/04/14/35EEA51B00000578-3673363-Caught_on_camera_Rupert_Murdoch_tries_to_raise_a_s mile_while_sto-a-1_1467637818915.jpg

Nigel yesterday chatting to Rupert Murdoch and and billionaire Evgeny Lebedev. He had a spot of lunch with them and Liam Fox.


His shoes :joker: he should have resigned for that fashion faux pax alone

[Rob!]

Although it's pretty telling that all the politicians who campaigned for leave are now leaving themselves.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Best political news in a long while. Hopefully he'll now disappear off the face of the earth.

:hee:

that is the opposite of what will happen

[Withano]

Although it's pretty telling that all the politicians who campaigned for leave are now leaving themselves.
Youd think haha. Have a read through the thread, because unfortunately, its not at all.

[Jack_]

Haven't we heard that before :rolleyes: how long before he returns to save a sinking ship?

I have to laugh at his claim that he's never been a careerist, meanwhile he's resigning as his party's leader but keeping his seat in an institution that he's apparently so despised for seventeen years which'll earn him £70k a year, despite the fact his job is now done

[Crimson Dynamo]

Although it's pretty telling that all the politicians who campaigned for leave are now leaving themselves.

Who?

[Northern Monkey]

/1ySyzdWkPhE

[Northern Monkey]

Haven't we heard that before :rolleyes: how long before he returns to save a sinking ship?

I have to laugh at his claim that he's never been a careerist, meanwhile he's resigning as his party's leader but keeping his seat in an institution that he's apparently so despised for seventeen years which'll earn him £70k a year, despite the fact his job is now doneWhy not rinse the bastards for everything he can?I would.We've given them billions over the years.

[microscope]

I actually find it really disturbing how anyone can support a man who stood smugly in front of a poster depicting a bunch of refugees (which has nothing to do with EU migration) with the caption 'breaking point' :umm2:

Says more about them than anything else tbh

Refugees are people that are from another country or countries that are not UK citizens and are classed the same as any other immigrant on the planet. Whether the poster Nigel was standing next to contained refugees or other immigrants is neither here nor there.

The bottom line is that we want to be able to choose who we want in the UK and how many come.

Nigel Farage and the rest of UKIP and I am sure that a majority of the leave campaigners out there in the UK will feel the same way.

[kirklancaster]

His shoes :joker: he should have resigned for that fashion faux pax alone

Yeah - Nigel proudly wears the United Kingdom flag on his 'uppers' - whereas SADLY, a hell of a lot of BRITISH people in this country like it UNDER their SOLES, whilst wiping their feet ON IT along with EVERYTHING it stands for Cherie.

[Mystic Mock]

this persistent ageism is quite ridiculous. How many times now have you said derogatory things specifically about older people?

It's not ageism to point out that nearly every out voter that I've heard or seen speak has been older.

And people seriously think that the Remain voters twist things to sound more prejudiced.:laugh:

[kirklancaster]

I genuinely do not believe he is racist, i think hes pretty unfairly got that label because many racists were hired for UKIP and the rests of Britains racists support them. But I do not believe he is one.
As far taking responsibility.. yes.. Contrary to the way he behaves, hes a grown up and was a party leader until he pussy footed his way out of it (still would be the leader if OUT lost the campaign). He should not be applauded for quitting. Obviously. He's let a lot of people down.

I respect your honesty Withano - thank you for that - and even though I CANNOT agree with your view on Farage 'quitting', I also respect your passion.

[jaxie]

UKIP is surely redundant now anyway. Their entire platform is based around... UK independence. The UK has voted to leave now, so what else is there to say? What else is there to argue for?

I think this really. They did their job and it's time to move on.

[Tom4784]

Being friendly with Darth Murdoch is just another reason to find him deplorable.

[Mystic Mock]

Refugees are people that are from another country or countries that are not UK citizens and are classed the same as any other immigrant on the planet. Whether the poster Nigel was standing next to contained refugees or other immigrants is neither here nor there.

The bottom line is that we want to be able to choose who we want in the UK and how many come.

Nigel Farage and the rest of UKIP and I am sure that a majority of the leave campaigners out there in the UK will feel the same way.

We all want controlled Immigration.

But it's not gonna change as all of our Parties (including UKIP) love Immigration as it's cheap labour to them as third worlders in particular won't know their rights as much.

[_Tom_]

What a great man. Mission completed for him. Let him enjoy a good rest. :clap1:

[microscope]

Refugees are people that are from another country or countries that are not UK citizens and are classed the same as any other immigrant on the planet. Whether the poster Nigel was standing next to contained refugees or other immigrants is neither here nor there.

The bottom line is that we want to be able to choose who we want in the UK and how many come.

Nigel Farage and the rest of UKIP and I am sure that a majority of the leave campaigners out there in the UK will feel the same way.
We all want controlled Immigration.

But it's not gonna change as all of our Parties (including UKIP) love Immigration as it's cheap labour to them as third worlders in particular won't know their rights as much.

If Theresa May get's in then we will continue in the single market and those little Hitler's in Brussels run things remember, and if they demand free movement of people (which they do), then immigrants will continue to come in thick and fast and we can't do anything about it, so just on that observation alone, not everybody wants to control immigration or they wouldn't place this country in that situation.

UKIP has always welcomed a reasonable amount of immigrants coming to live/work in the UK, but only a limited number and skilled workers rather than a load of people ending up claiming benefits and putting a huge strain on our economy, among other things.

Where did you get this idea that UKIP wants to bring in a load of immigrants to work for less than minimum wage? which I think you are implying. :conf:

[_Tom_]

Cameron has to stand down after failing. Farage steps aside gracefully after winning :clap2:

[Black Dagger]

Farage couldn't do grace if he was sat at a ****ing dinner party.

[Toy Soldier]

I didn't say that some of them are not convincing opinions but they're still not facts. I suppose some people have a loose definition of what constitutes a "fact"... I happen to be quite picky about what I'm willing to conceed is fact.

That said, I wouldn't say that my opinion if the EU has changed, per se... I was never so much "Pro EU" as "Pro remain" which is slightly different. If we were NOT current members and we're voting on whether or not we should JOIN, I would always have said a definite "no". My Pro remain stance, as an allegory, works well like this:

You're on a mad scientists table, he asks you "Do you want me to embed this experimental microchip in your brain??". You'd have to be insane to say "sure why not." that's the vote "to join".

THIS vote, however, the scenario is... You wake up, you already HAVE the chip embedded in your brain, thousands of wires have sprouted from it and are woven throughout your skull. The question NOW is... Do you dig your fingers into the hole in your skull and rip it out (LEAVE), or do you leave it ALONE (REMAIN) because of the irreversible damage that pulling it out now will do?

Anyway, that always has been and still is my opinion. What has softened my stance is some fairly convincing arguments that the EU is now doomed to unravel anyway, and may well have been before this also. These are still not facts. It may well thrive without us still. I have been swayed to the OPINION that it will probably not.

[Niamh.]

Closed for cleaning, when i reopen I would ask you all to stop getting personal with eachother, "leavers/remainers" in general and just stick to the topic.

[arista]

Thank you Kind Mod for your hard work

[arista]

Radio 4 started with a Great Report on Nige


I mean that Plane Crash
people soon Forget


What a Guy

[arista]

Farage couldn't do grace if he was sat at a ****ing dinner party.


Thats his style.



Like TS , LT
or me

we have a style

[Liberty4eva]

He achieved what he set out for and now wants his life back. He is a refreshing change from the career politicians we're used to. In so many ways he is a refreshing change.

[arista]

He achieved what he set out for and now wants his life back. He is a refreshing change from the career politicians we're used to. In so many ways he is a refreshing change.


Plus his Kids need him

[chuff me dizzy]

A sad day ,he would have made an amazing PM

[arista]

A sad day ,he would have made an amazing PM



Later on , he still could be

[joeysteele]

Later on , he still could be

Not a chance now, had he been a Conservative maybe.
One should never say never but to this I do say never now and never under this electoral system either.

[arista]

Not a chance now, had he been a Conservative maybe.
One should never say never but to this I do say never now and never under this electoral system either.




with Respect
we do not know in the Future what Political Parties
will be like.



NOW
there is 2 Labour Parties in the UK now

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Labour_Parties
loads with other names

[joeysteele]

with Respect
we do not know in the Future what Political Parties
will be like.



NOW
there is 2 Labour Parties in the UK now

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Labour_Parties
loads with other names

His day is gone now,I thought it possible a few years back, not now.

You are right predicting the future in politics is a fools business but there is also reality too.
Even if UKIP got a massive breakthrough,unlikely though that is,without him, they would not then want him as a PM likely. also he is not even going to run to be an MP anyway either now.

[Mystic Mock]

If Theresa May get's in then we will continue in the single market and those little Hitler's in Brussels run things remember, and if they demand free movement of people (which they do), then immigrants will continue to come in thick and fast and we can't do anything about it, so just on that observation alone, not everybody wants to control immigration or they wouldn't place this country in that situation.

UKIP has always welcomed a reasonable amount of immigrants coming to live/work in the UK, but only a limited number and skilled workers rather than a load of people ending up claiming benefits and putting a huge strain on our economy, among other things.

Where did you get this idea that UKIP wants to bring in a load of immigrants to work for less than minimum wage? which I think you are implying. :conf:

A lot of us are choosing the lesser evil in wanting to keep our Economy stable and not having to use Visa's just to go to our neighbouring countries, so if that means putting up with a mass amounts of Immigration then I'm taking it.

And I'm not saying that UKIP would not pay them the minimum wage, it's more to do with the fact that the Immigrants that they want from the Middle East and Africa would not know that they could ask for a raise necessarily as they're used to the "put up and shut up" attitude of their own countries.

[Mystic Mock]

A sad day ,he would have made an amazing PM

:umm2:

The working class would be on the streets.

[arista]

:umm2:

The working class would be on the streets.


Yes
Some Backing Him

[jaxie]

I didn't say that some of them are not convincing opinions but they're still not facts. I suppose some people have a loose definition of what constitutes a "fact"... I happen to be quite picky about what I'm willing to conceed is fact.

That said, I wouldn't say that my opinion if the EU has changed, per se... I was never so much "Pro EU" as "Pro remain" which is slightly different. If we were NOT current members and we're voting on whether or not we should JOIN, I would always have said a definite "no". My Pro remain stance, as an allegory, works well like this:

You're on a mad scientists table, he asks you "Do you want me to embed this experimental microchip in your brain??". You'd have to be insane to say "sure why not." that's the vote "to join".

THIS vote, however, the scenario is... You wake up, you already HAVE the chip embedded in your brain, thousands of wires have sprouted from it and are woven throughout your skull. The question NOW is... Do you dig your fingers into the hole in your skull and rip it out (LEAVE), or do you leave it ALONE (REMAIN) because of the irreversible damage that pulling it out now will do?

Anyway, that always has been and still is my opinion. What has softened my stance is some fairly convincing arguments that the EU is now doomed to unravel anyway, and may well have been before this also. These are still not facts. It may well thrive without us still. I have been swayed to the OPINION that it will probably not.

With regard to the waking up with the chip already embedded in my brain with all the wires sprouting. It would be coming right out, even if I had to dig it out with a spoon! No one is forcing me into an experiment I don't want to be part of. Specially one that hurts developing countries with its protectionism.

[Liberty4eva]

Farage would be an excellent choice for your PM. It is too bad that in the UK you vote for the party and then the party votes for its leader. Wouldn't it be nice if you could directly vote for the leader?

[Crimson Dynamo]

:umm2:

The working class would be on the streets.

Mock can you enlighten us with what you mean by working class, perhaps with some examples?

[reece(:]

He's certainly no king. Good riddance trash, and stay gone this time.

[Crimson Dynamo]

He's certainly no king. Good riddance trash, and stay gone this time.

yes calling him trash really does show that you are the better man here

:umm2:

[reece(:]

yes calling him trash really does show that you are the better man here

:umm2:

I'm entitled to my opinion and you're entitled not to get personal :hee:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'm entitled to my opinion and you're entitled not to get personal :hee:

its not an opinion you are insulting him to try and make out that you are somehow better

[Cherie]

Farage would be an excellent choice for your PM. It is too bad that in the UK you vote for the party and then the party votes for its leader. Wouldn't it be nice if you could directly vote for the leader?

Nope

[Cherie]

its not an opinion you are insulting him to try and make out that you are somehow better

Reece is better :idc:

[Denver]

Even sadder then the day Winston Churchill lead England victorious in the war

[Black Dagger]

Reece is better than that drunken racist ty.

[reece(:]

Reece is better than that drunken racist ty.

:love: (drunken diva > )

[Cherie]

Even sadder then the day Winston Churchill lead England victorious in the war

Eh :laugh: didn't you want Winston to win then

[microscope]

If Theresa May get's in then we will continue in the single market and those little Hitler's in Brussels run things remember, and if they demand free movement of people (which they do), then immigrants will continue to come in thick and fast and we can't do anything about it, so just on that observation alone, not everybody wants to control immigration or they wouldn't place this country in that situation.

UKIP has always welcomed a reasonable amount of immigrants coming to live/work in the UK, but only a limited number and skilled workers rather than a load of people ending up claiming benefits and putting a huge strain on our economy, among other things.

Where did you get this idea that UKIP wants to bring in a load of immigrants to work for less than minimum wage? which I think you are implying. :conf:

A lot of us are choosing the lesser evil in wanting to keep our Economy stable and not having to use Visa's just to go to our neighbouring countries, so if that means putting up with a mass amounts of Immigration then I'm taking it.

And I'm not saying that UKIP would not pay them the minimum wage, it's more to do with the fact that the Immigrants that they want from the Middle East and Africa would not know that they could ask for a raise necessarily as they're used to the "put up and shut up" attitude of their own countries.

The economy has been hit after Brexit but will improve as time goes by and already things are starting to look better only after a few days past Brexit. It was David Cameron and other politicians that was spreading the panic before Brexit and George Osborne and his threat of putting up taxes, etc which only made matters worse, but Cameron has quitted. The man who said he wasn't a 'quitter' lol :wavey: and George has either changed his mind or was just bluffing as a last desperate move to try keep the country in Europe.

Nobody will need Visa's to visit other European countries after Brexit. The worst case scenario will be more border checks, but that's a good thing for security reasons. If you don't believe me, click here - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/comment/what-would-brexit-mean-for-travellers/

Well I'm glad that you are not saying that UKIP wouldn't pay them the minimum wage, as if they didn't do then they would be breaking the law lol.

UKIP will not be winning any election any time soon as it will always be Conservative or Labour or perhaps a coalition of some kind as the British people (as a majority) will never change. So anything that you may or may not have read in some newspaper article..'or whatever' as to what UKIP may have wanted to do in regards to bringing certain immigrants into the UK really doesn't matter, as they will never have the luxury of making that sort of decision, and if they did, I highly doubt that they would have anything to do with any sort of exploitation of immigrants as UKIP are wanting skilled workers to live/work in the UK and as few as they can possibly bring in as they want immigration levels to be as low as they can be.

[Denver]

Eh :laugh: didn't you want Winston to win then

I mean sad as in a emotional way

[Crimson Dynamo]

Reece is better than that drunken racist ty.

Well History will be the judge

so far its not looking too good for Reece

:laugh2:

[Black Dagger]

Reece is a historical figure in his own right ty.

[Cherie]

I mean sad as in a emotional way


I know just pulling your leg Adam

[reece(:]

Reece is a historical figure in his own right ty.

:clap1:

To even say Farage is a better person in general is highly offensive tbh!

[Crimson Dynamo]

:clap1:

To even say Farage is a better person in general is highly offensive tbh!

#teamfarage

#pushreeceinacanal

[arista]

I know just pulling your leg Adam


Steady on
he is off on holiday soon

[Denver]

Steady on
he is off on holiday soon

Not for 2 months yet :fist:

[arista]

He's certainly no king. Good riddance trash, and stay gone this time.


Yes Not a Official King.


But It was his hard work
nicking Daves MP's
into UKIP
making Dave call the Historic vote


He worked for years - No Holiday
so I give him credit

[arista]

Not for 2 months yet :fist:


OK 8 weeks

not that long

[MTVN]

Yes Not a Official King.


But It was his hard work
nicking Daves MP's
into UKIP
making Dave call the Historic vote


He worked for years - No Holiday
so I give him credit

Ukip didn't actually have any MPs when Cameron first promised the In/Out referendum though

[bots]

It's not ageism to point out that nearly every out voter that I've heard or seen speak has been older.

And people seriously think that the Remain voters twist things to sound more prejudiced.:laugh:

if it had been 1 comment, but its been upwards of 10 times you have made derogatory comments about older people. I call it what it is, ageism.

[arista]

if it had been 1 comment, but its been upwards of 10 times you have made derogatory comments about older people. I call it what it is, ageism.


I like a Fight

[kirklancaster]

if it had been 1 comment, but its been upwards of 10 times you have made derogatory comments about older people. I call it what it is, ageism.

:clap1::clap1::clap1: Makes a compelling case for raising the voting age to 30 in my opinion. :hee: