USA: Tensions High After Police Shoot Black Man

[arista]

He had a Gun in his pocket
stupid to fight cops with a gun in his pocket

http://news.sky.com/story/tensions-high-after-police-shoot-black-man-10485313


Of course,
it does not help that 2 videos
are not complete


But In the USA
if you are pulled over
inform the officers you have a gun in your pocket
and can they remove it first,
than they have no right to shoot you.

[Ammi]

...they had him pinned down, the gun was in his pocket, he was no threat to them when they opened fire..?...

[arista]

...they had him pinned down, the gun was in his pocket, he was no threat to them when they opened fire..?...


I could have pulled his Gun Out or shot through his jeans.

If you are being Arrested
you must Inform the Cops
you have gun & in which
pocket--- they then remove slowly

[Ammi]

...pulled over turned into arrested and arrested turned into shot dead, while his weapon wasn't taken from his pocket..well that escalated quickly...

[Ammi]

..so it's a country that allows the carrying of weapons in it's laws but you'll get shot dead for carrying them, then..?..

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

He had a Gun in his pocket
stupid to fight cops with a gun in his pocket

http://news.sky.com/story/tensions-high-after-police-shoot-black-man-10485313


Of course,
it does not help that 2 videos
are not complete


But In the USA
if you are pulled over
inform the officers you have a gun in your pocket
and can they remove it first,
than they have no right to shoot you.


If you watch the 9 minute video he did inform the officer he has a licensed gun. The lower income portion of the black peoples experience this daily if you don't count the reported ones but hey doesn't matter. We're just playing the race card. Never heard of a white man being killed for just reaching his pocket. White man grabs a cops gun and he survived. A white man follows a Muslim woman with a big rifle and survived, black man reached back pocket, dies

[Ammi]

If you watch the 9 minute video he did inform the officer he has a licensed gun.

..oh I didn't see a vid, was that in Arista's link..?..I don't have time to watch it this morning but I'll do so later in the day../after work...

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

..so it's a country that allows the carrying of weapons in it's laws but you'll get shot dead for carrying them, then..?..

Well if you're black yes. If you're white you can laugh about it and get some patience from the cop.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

My ducking gosh just realised the original post had a completely different case :facepalm: ducking cops. And people had a problem with Jesse Williams speech. Like can they breathe before you kill!

[Ammi]

...so no video for this one, CeeCee..?...

[arista]

..so it's a country that allows the carrying of weapons in it's laws but you'll get shot dead for carrying them, then..?..


No you can carry a Gun so long as you are Legal
But if a Police stop you
Inform them first you have a gun.
And that you want them to remove from your pocket

Thats Common sense out there

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

This is the one I was referring to https://twitter.com/zucoiade/status/750926803737337857



Where does it say Mr Sterling was fighting? He asked what did I do?

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

No you can carry a Gun so long as you are Legal
But if a Police stop you
Inform them first you have a gun.
And that you want them to remove from your pocket

Thats Common sense out there

If you watch the video of this second case the passenger said he has a gun but got shot anyway his girlfriend said in the aftermath. His girlfriend recorded as the police told her to keep her hands on the wheel. Twitter link

[arista]

Well if you're black yes. If you're white you can laugh about it and get some patience from the cop.


No there are Black Security workers
that have a legal gun.

But if anyone is stopped
inform the Cops you have a gun.

[arista]

If you watch the video of this second case the passenger said he has a gun but got shot anyway his girlfriend said in the aftermath. His girlfriend recorded as the police told her to keep her hands on the wheel. Twitter link


Yes CNN USA showed both videos.

Because there is the outside video
those cops are not at work.

[Ammi]

No you can carry a Gun so long as you are Legal
But if a Police stop you
Inform them first you have a gun.
And that you want them to remove from your pocket

Thats Common sense out there

..I guess that during being pinned down etc and everything that is going on at the time and in the moment, you probably expect to be given the chance to say 'I have a gun in my pocket sir' before you're shot and killed as well.../that seems reasonable and 'using a reasonable force' does it not....

[arista]

This is the one I was referring to https://twitter.com/zucoiade/status/750926803737337857



Where does it say Mr Sterling was fighting? He asked what did I do?


You Can Not show Another Case.
Nothing to do with this

Feck Sake

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

This reads like post Brexit racism. When you kept telling people there's still racism " race card. I got black friends. So much diversity on bbc. Stop whinging" now all the leeches are coming out in full force and they're taking notice. Don't expect a clap because you're talking about it now. It's the same with black lives matter. It will take 100 years before people give a rats behind about where this stems from. From Malcom X talking about it, to Rodney King, to Eric Garner not sure what it will take for people to give a ****.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

You Can Not show Another Case.
Nothing to do with this

Feck Sake

Well it just proves the point you're trying to enforce here is irrelevant. If you tell the officer that you have a gun you still get shot.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Now let's wait for the back lash against the black guy. But he talked. His gf is ghetto. He moved. All hail the cops for getting rid of more n---- like it was first intended when the badges were named n----- patrol

[Ammi]

...so CeeCee posting the other situation is very relevant, Arista...and I don't care whether someone has a gun in their pocket or wherever the heck that they have it because they were pinned down according to the article/report, so they were essentially able to be disarmed from that gun which is the role of a police officer, to uphold the law without loss of life wherever possible...

[arista]

...so CeeCee posting the other situation is very relevant, Arista...and I don't care whether someone has a gun in their pocket or wherever the heck that they have it because they were pinned down according to the article/report, so they were essentially able to be disarmed from that gun which is the role of a police officer, to uphold the law without loss of life wherever possible...

For you maybe

But Not In a Court of Law

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

...so CeeCee posting the other situation is very relevant, Arista...and I don't care whether someone has a gun in their pocket or wherever the heck that they have it because they were pinned down according to the article/report, so they were essentially able to be disarmed from that gun which is the role of a police officer, to uphold the law without loss of life wherever possible...

I just can't do it anymore. It's too much **** in this world.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

For you maybe

But Not In a Court of Law

But this isn't the court of law. And the court of law does get it wrong many times. Many people have been wrongly convicted.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Black people are protesting and nobody gives a ****. They didn't even give a **** for the Charleston 9 I doubt this protest will mean much to them. It's just black people whinging. Maybe if the guy was gay the black gays could reach to their white gays to give a **** and start a protest which would eventually lead to a change of building colors.

[arista]

But this isn't the court of law. And the court of law does get it wrong many times. Many people have been wrongly convicted.


Yes Errors Happen
You Need Good Honest Lawyers
they are out there

[Cherie]

This does seem like ridiculous force being used for a guy selling a few CDS, also if they already knew he had a gun which is the reason they were called out why didn't they disarm him?

[arista]

This does seem like ridiculous force being used for a guy selling a few CDS, also if they already knew he had a gun which is the reason they were called out why didn't they disarm him?

Outside a Store
that did not want him doing that.

All Legal

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Someone please tell me how this is even remotely justified!! This hurts so badly.



http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/07/06/new-video-shows-alton-sterling-was-not-holding-a-gun-when-baton-rogue-police-killed-him.html

If white cops are afraid of big built black men they should **** off.

[Cherie]

That is insane, he posed no danger the way they had him pinned to the ground

[Dominic]

Everything about this shooting is ****ed up. Some anonymous person reported how he was threatening with a gun, and instead of questioning him or investigating, he was shot instantly. Video proves he wasn't threatening the cops at all.

EDIT: I got confused between two seperate cases so my second paragraph was irrelevant to this.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Everything about this shooting is ****ed up. Some anonymous person reported how he was threatening with a gun, and instead of questioning him or investigating, he was shot instantly. Video proves he wasn't threatening the cops at all.

There's a video of his girlfriend I believe and she filmed when he was in the car next to her, after he had been shot and he was bleeding. You can see the anger in her and how sad she is. At the end of the video she has a meltdown and her child says 'mom it's OK I'm here with you' and it was very touching.

These are 2 seperate cases. I too thought this thread was about Philando Castille, the man Shot by his girlfriend, but this thread is about Alton Sterling, the man shot down while being held down.

The little girl saying that broke my heart so badly.

[Dominic]

Wait what. I was reffering to the Alton Sterling shooting in the first paragraph. So is the video of that woman in the car a different case? Cause I got to the video through an article about the Alton Sterling shooting

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Wait what. I was reffering to the Alton Sterling shooting in the first paragraph. So is the video of that woman a different case?

Yup. Alton's blood is still fresh and another black man was unnecessarily killed. Also people are asking where the girlfriend is. She obeyed, kept her hands where they asked, there's no reason for her to be in custody. I just hope it's not another Sandra Bland case.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

All lives matter trending. Standard.

One reason gays get support is because there are a lot of white gays and men in power are gay. If being gay was a black issue it wouldn't even be on the radar.

[Ninastar]

All lives matter trending. Standard.

One reason gays get support is because there are a lot of white gays and men in power are gay. If being gay was a black issue it wouldn't even be on the radar.

Yes because there was absolutely no sympathy for all the people of colour killed in Orlando last month

[Crimson Dynamo]

All lives matter trending. Standard.

One reason gays get support is because there are a lot of white gays and men in power are gay. If being gay was a black issue it wouldn't even be on the radar.

I thuink I am right in saying the President of America and his wife are black?

:facepalm:

[arista]

I thuink I am right in saying the President of America and his wife are black?

:facepalm:

Yes the First Ever.
Gone soon

He is the FEcker that told us Not to leave the EU
well out of his zone
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/Portal%20Curated/Obama%20AEM-small.png

[arista]

He should not have sold the CD's
outside of a Shop.
Not Legal.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

They cuffed a 4 yr old. Standard.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Yes because there was absolutely no sympathy for all the people of colour killed in Orlando last month
It was more about love wins.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

I thuink I am right in saying the President of America and his wife are black?

:facepalm:

Oh blimey that means all racism is out the door then. And like Obama has all the power and as if racism didn't rise as a result of him being President :rolleyes:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Oh blimey that means all racism is out the door then. And like Obama has all the power and as if racism didn't rise as a result of him being President :rolleyes:

YOu said:

"One reason gays get support is because there are a lot of white gays and men in power are gay."


The President is Black and he is the most powerful man in America


:facepalm:

[arista]

They cuffed a 4 yr old. Standard.




Yes - that's fair
if the kid is going angry

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

YOu said:

"One reason gays get support is because there are a lot of white gays and men in power are gay."


The President is Black and he is the most powerful man in America


:facepalm:

1 black man amongst all the white men in the government clearly isn't enough for change.

[AnnieK]

Tragic case. He was restrained on the floor and then shot multiple times in the torso and back? Why multiple? Heartbreakingly sad and lots of questions to be answered

[arista]

Tragic case. He was restrained on the floor and then shot multiple times in the torso and back? Why multiple? Heartbreakingly sad and lots of questions to be answered


Yes we need the Full Story
Not Edits

[AnnieK]

There is another video posted on Facebook that shows the shooting and shows that when they went to pull the "gun" out of his pocket whilst he is lying on the floor bleeding out....they only retrieve his drivers licence. It's not clear enough to confirm that's what it was but it certainly didn't look like a gun.

[user104658]

It'll just be a coincidence. The officers all got itchy at the same time and, by coincidence, all of their finders were on the triggers of guns and pointed at a restrained man. Purely coincidentally, there were rounds in the guns, which fired and hit the guy, but at the same time he actually had an asthma attack and that was the cause of death.

#Brexitlogic

[arista]

There is another video posted on Facebook that shows the shooting and shows that when they went to pull the "gun" out of his pocket whilst he is lying on the floor bleeding out....they only retrieve his drivers licence. It's not clear enough to confirm that's what it was but it certainly didn't look like a gun.

The Gun pulled out is
after he was shot

[VanessaFeltz.]

They shouldnt be able to just ****ing shoot someone so easy they need to change the laws. Also i dont get the gun laws in america how the **** it is legal to have gun when there are mass shootings. It is just ****ed up that a police man can just shoot people and get away with it.

Also i dont get how this is related to gay people?

[arista]

They shouldnt be able to just ****ing shoot someone so easy they need to change the laws. Also i dont get the gun laws in america how the **** it is legal to have gun when there are mass shootings. It is just ****ed up that a police man can just shoot people and get away with it.

Also i dont get how this is related to gay people?

Because they signed all the Forms at Walmart
and gave all the info in. Got a proper Gun License
Its for your own protection.
America was Built on the Gun
right back to when we in England ran it.


I do not know if the CD seller
had a Legal Gun

[lewis111]

These are the stories that get me the most angry and upset because we all know the chances of these police getting charged are almost none existent

2 in the space of what like 24 hours it's ridiculous

[Tom4784]

Just another case of incompetent racist officers sadly, no reason to shoot him at all. He was pinned down and wasn't a threat to them at that point.

It sounds like it was basically an execution. I hope these officers face the full extent of the law, incidents like these will keep happening until a message is sent to these wannabe Dirty Harrys.

[user104658]

Because they signed all the Forms at Walmart
and gave all the info in. Got a proper Gun License
Its for your own protection.
America was Built on the Gun
right back to when we in England ran it.


I do not know if the CD seller
had a Legal Gun
Britain was built on the sword but we don't still carry them :shrug:

[arista]

Just another case of incompetent racist officers sadly, no reason to shoot him at all. He was pinned down and wasn't a threat to them at that point.

It sounds like it was basically an execution. I hope these officers face the full extent of the law, incidents like these will keep happening until a message is sent to these wannabe Dirty Harrys.

Yes Dezzy
thats America


And Thats a Great Film

[arista]

Britain was built on the sword but we don't still carry them :shrug:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b3/BattleofLongisland.jpg




At the Time we Ran the USA
we had Rifles


http://www.11thpa.org/graphics/dutch.gif
A early Dutch Import
When We Ran the USA 1700's

[kirklancaster]

It'll just be a coincidence. The officers all got itchy at the same time and, by coincidence, all of their finders were on the triggers of guns and pointed at a restrained man. Purely coincidentally, there were rounds in the guns, which fired and hit the guy, but at the same time he actually had an asthma attack and that was the cause of death.

#Brexitlogic

Why the Brexit logic? :shrug:

You are so confused T.S.

[arista]

Why the Brexit logic? :shrug:

You are so confused T.S.

No leave him
it was me that brought that UP
in a reply to the USA poster

[kirklancaster]

I am not specifically referring to this video or any other, but the USA DOES have a very serious and increasing problem with members of its various Police Departments EXECUTING black people - including OAP's AND children - when there are NO justifiable reasons to do so.

It is becoming embarrassing the repeated number of times that such unlawful and heartbreaking 'murders' do not even result in any type of 'Official' investigations, and even more shameful when such an investigation is carried out, only for the inevitable 'whitewashed' verdict of 'No Case To Answer' to be given.

IF the USA Government does not ADDRESS this untenable and SHAMEFUL practice soon, REAL violence WILL erupt upon their streets as the more frustrated militant black community - tired of holding out for justice to be done - take the CORRUPT law into their own hands.

Anyone DENYING that the US police ARE executing - largely - unharmed and helpless victims, needs a reality check.

If it was the British Police shooting - largely - unarmed and helpless IMMIGRANT victims, there would be a HUE and CRY of protest which would be heard around the world.

WHY is the USA so deaf to the cries of the black community?

[Niamh.]

I am not specifically referring to this video or any other, but the USA DOES have a very serious and increasing problem with members of its various Police Departments EXECUTING black people - including OAP's AND children - when there are NO justifiable reasons to do so.

It is becoming embarrassing the repeated number of times that such unlawful and heartbreaking 'murders' do not even result in any type of 'Official' investigations, and even more shameful when such an investigation is carried out, only for the inevitable 'whitewashed' verdict of 'No Case To Answer' to be given.

IF the USA Government does not ADDRESS this untenable and SHAMEFUL practice soon, REAL violence WILL erupt upon their streets as the more frustrated militant black community - tired of holding out for justice to be done - take the CORRUPT law into their own hands.

Anyone DENYING that the US police ARE executing - largely - unharmed and helpless victims, needs a reality check.

If it was the British Police shooting - largely - unarmed and helpless IMMIGRANT victims, there would be a HUE and CRY of protest which would be heard around the world.

WHY is the USA so deaf to the cries of the black community?

Great post

[user104658]

Why the Brexit logic? :shrug:

You are so confused T.S.
Everything is a coincidence, nothing is the result of anything else. Just a series of completely random and unrelated events. There is no such thing as racism. It's just people who happen to have light skin carrying out attacks on people who happen to have darker skin, completely at random, just another of the universe's patterns that seems to have meaning but is actually unrelated.

I'm not confused at all, as it happens. If anything, I've seen something so much more clearly now that the world only makes more sense.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The usual trial by social media with very few facts

this is why we have courts to stop hysteria

[lostalex]

social media hates cops, which is just a substitute for their parents. again....and again... and again. and 200 years from now...again.

wow, young and/or poor people always blame authority. why are some people still pretending to think this is news?

still no trial, still no details, still no context. but damn we all hate cops, right?! *vomits*

[arista]

Nice to see you back Alex

[lostalex]

Nice to see you back Alex

*kisses Arista on the nose* :wavey:

[VanessaFeltz.]

Its for your own protection.


Thats why there are tons of mass shootings

[lostalex]

Thats why there are tons of mass shootings

there aren't tons though, they are actually very rare considering the size of population in the US. Other comparable countries with large populations, like China and India have far more violent crime and murder and far less justice. The US is actually one of the safest and least violent countries on earth.

[Crimson Dynamo]

there aren't tons though, they are actually very rare considering the size of population in the US. Other comparable countries with large populations, like China and India have far more violent crime and murder and far less justice. The US is actually one of the safest and least violent countries on earth.


10,000 people a month die on African and Chinese roads

[kirklancaster]

10,000 people a month die on African and Chinese roads

I didn't realise that there were that many American traffic cops on African and Chinese roads LT. :hee:

[kirklancaster]

Great post

Thank you Niamh.

[Tom4784]

Two different witnesses recorded the incident and their own testimonies line up but it's obviously anti-cop bias on social media that's to blame, it's not suspicious at all that the officers' bodycams both happened to get 'dislodged' in the incident because it's OBVIOUSLY the black guy's fault because these white police officers who killed a restrained man by shooting him in the back were obviously in danger...

Plus why are we even talking about America? We should randomly go off topic and bring up unrelated topics to take the focus away from the US because we like to bury our heads in the sand.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I didn't realise that there were that many American traffic cops on African and Chinese roads LT. :hee:

:joker:


:nono:

[Crimson Dynamo]

what did the man do to get arrested initially?

[Crimson Dynamo]

snip

Plus why are we even talking about America? We should randomly go off topic and bring up unrelated topics to take the focus away from the US because we like to bury our heads in the sand.

eh?

[Niamh.]

what did the man do to get arrested initially?

That actually has no bearing on anything if he was shot whilest restrained :shrug: They are not supposed to be the Executioners

[Crimson Dynamo]

That actually has no bearing on anything if he was shot whilest restrained :shrug: They are not supposed to be the Executioners

Well it does as I want to know what he did to get arrested and had he been arrested before

If he was a dangerous thug with a gun in his pocket then it has a huge bearing

baton rouge is open carry

[Niamh.]

Well it does as I want to know what he did to get arrested and had he been arrested before

If he was a dangerous thug with a gun in his pocket then it has a huge bearing

baton rouge is open carry

It has zero bearing on anything if the man was restrained

[Crimson Dynamo]

It has zero bearing on anything if the man was restrained

he wasnt his hands were not cuffed i dont think

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=396_1467864290

here is another video without context or law for the internet to be judge and jury about

WARNING GRAPHIC


A woman whose boyfriend was fatally shot by a Minnesota police officer during a routine traffic stop brought the shooting immediate national attention after she live-streamed the graphic aftermath on Facebook Live.

Lavish Reynolds was in the passenger seat when her boyfriend, 32-year-old Philando Castile, was shot multiple times by a police officer in Falcon Heights, Minnesota.

[Niamh.]

I don't think I want to watch that tbh :/

[Crimson Dynamo]

I don't think I want to watch that tbh :/

That ones looks pretty bad for da police but the woman filming it has a very unusual attitude to her dying bf

[Niamh.]

That ones looks pretty bad for da police but the woman filming it has a very unusual attitude to her dying bf

Well, I guess she was making sure she had some evidence otherwise, no doubt excuses would be made for why it was his fault?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Well, I guess she was making sure she had some evidence otherwise, no doubt excuses would be made for why it was his fault?

perhaps I guess its hard to second guess the situation as it it is so extreme



Its the price you pay for having armed cops and armed citizens I am afraid

get your shot in first

[Tom4784]

That ones looks pretty bad for da police but the woman filming it has a very unusual attitude to her dying bf

She did it to ensure she could get some justice, what else could she do? If she didn't film it, the victim would be discredited to excuse the police officers, kind of like what you're doing to this woman because she dared to film police misconduct.

[Niamh.]

perhaps I guess its hard to second guess the situation as it it is so extreme



Its the price you pay for having armed cops and armed citizens I am afraid

get your shot in first

Protect and Serve becomes Shoot before you're shot

[Crimson Dynamo]

Protect and Serve becomes Shoot before you're shot

Very difficult in high crime areas not to defend yourself first

when every traffic stop can potentially lead to a perp pulling a gun on you that changes everything

I have every sympathy for the police and the job they do

[Crimson Dynamo]

The public want perfection from the police but do not lay the blame at the scum crims who keep committing crimes and shooting people

[Niamh.]

Very difficult in high crime areas not to defend yourself first

when every traffic stop can potentially lead to a perp pulling a gun on you that changes everything

I have every sympathy for the police and the job they do

They should probably stop asking to see peoples Drivers Licenses then if they're that jumpy

[Crimson Dynamo]

They should probably stop asking to see peoples Drivers Licenses then if they're that jumpy

I never get why they insist the perps stay in the car unlike in the UK?

[Niamh.]

I never get why they insist the perps stay in the car unlike in the UK?

maybe they need better training. This is what I'm getting from seeing alot of those stories, it's the same with their fire service (no disrespect to them of course) but Gav is a firefighter and in their training they often look at other countries Fire service/incidents etc and he said that there's alot less safety measures with the American Fire service and it's very "gung ho" compared to here or the UK, seems like maybe a similar attitude comes with the Police service?

[AnnieK]

The public want perfection from the police but do not lay the blame at the scum crims who keep committing crimes and shooting people

They had a back light out on their car.....not exactly the crime of the century :shrug: or worth the title of scum crim

[Crimson Dynamo]

They had a back light out on their car.....not exactly the crime of the century :shrug: or worth the title of scum crim

i was not referring to this case as we have no details about it other than a video made by that woman

[DemolitionRed]

Very difficult in high crime areas not to defend yourself first

when every traffic stop can potentially lead to a perp pulling a gun on you that changes everything

I have every sympathy for the police and the job they do

And do you also have sympathy for the innocent men who were shot? Do you have sympathy for their families and those who witnessed these executions?

How can you watch those videos and not be sickened?

[Crimson Dynamo]

And do you also have sympathy for the innocent men who were shot? Do you have sympathy for their families and those who witnessed these executions?

How can you watch those videos and not be sickened?

because im old enough to realise that videos can be highly misleading and do not give the whole picture. That is why we have courts and justice - to avoid mob justice/hysteria

[Macie Lightfoot]

They should probably stop asking to see peoples Drivers Licenses then if they're that jumpy

or you just shouldn't be a police officer for a town if you're afraid of most of its inhabitants

[Niamh.]

Just reading a bit more on that second story LT posted, the guy that was shots 4 year old daughter was in the car and saw it all too, poor kid

[Crimson Dynamo]

"According to The Advocate, a warrant had been issued for Sterling’s arrest in 2015 after he failed to register as a sex offender for charges dating back to 2000. He also spent five years in prison beginning in 2009 for drug-related crimes.!"

SO the cops had every right to be very wary about this man and the fact he was armed

[user104658]

"According to The Advocate, a warrant had been issued for Sterling’s arrest in 2015 after he failed to register as a sex offender for charges dating back to 2000. He also spent five years in prison beginning in 2009 for drug-related crimes.!"

SO the cops had every right to be very wary about this man and the fact he was armed
When does "wary" become "shoot him lots just incase"? The police are supposed to stay cool, rational and professional in these situations... That is what they are paid for and - importantly - that is what they signed up to be. We're not talking about a civilian protecting himself or his family... Being a police officer is a job that has certain inherent risks when it comes to doing it properly and those risk are accepted by implication when someone chooses the job. "Yeah I signed up but I'm going to be on the super-safe side and shoot first ask questions later just incase" is not a valid defense here.

Neither is "but he was a bad guy anyway", to be clear. Laying down justice is, as you are so fond of saying, up to a court of law. No one should be advocating judge dredd style trigger happy cops where anything goes so long as the victims are "baddies", it is a terrible idea.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Alton Sterling wasn't even the person they were called to the scene about in the first place

[Niamh.]

When does "wary" become "shoot him lots just incase"? The police are supposed to stay cool, rational and professional in these situations... That is what they are paid for and - importantly - that is what they signed up to be. We're not talking about a civilian protecting himself or his family... Being a police officer is a job that has certain inherent risks when it comes to doing it properly and those risk are accepted by implication when someone chooses the job. "Yeah I signed up but I'm going to be on the super-safe side and shoot first ask questions later just incase" is not a valid defense here.

Neither is "but he was a bad guy anyway", to be clear. Laying down justice is, as you are so fond of saying, up to a court of law. No one should be advocating judge dredd style trigger happy cops where anything goes so long as the victims are "baddies", it is a terrible idea.

Not to mention, no matter what this guy may have done, there was a 4 year old child in the car as well, totally innocent of anything

[Crimson Dynamo]

The Dallas incident will just make Law Enforcement Officers more cautious

I feel sorry for all the Police and their families

[Northern Monkey]

It's unfortunately a vicious circle of death and i can't see how it can end.The police are scared of the black guys and the black guys are scared of the police and everyone's got guns at the ready.Scary stuff.

[user104658]

The Dallas incident will just make Law Enforcement Officers more cautious

I feel sorry for all the Police and their families
Of course it will. NM is right when he says it's mainly about fear. These kids join the police and straight away are bombarded with "horror stories" that make them fear for their lives and that sinks in so they start seeing any black face as having the potential to be their own horror story. Make no mistake though; the fact that it is fear based does NOT mean it isn't racism!

So they treat people like a lethal threat from the word go and end up twitchy, shooting first, further alienating groups of people, which leads to more violence, which is used to confirm the horror stories ("see? Didn't I warn you about them?") and so next time, the Cop has even more prejudice and is even more likely to shoot first and fast.

It is a cycle of violence but the professionals HAVE TO be the ones to put an end to it. They can be better trained, they can be better picked in the first place, they can be better prepared to resolve situations without violence whenever possible. It HAS to lie with the cops. You can't try to make the responsibility to end the cycle lie with random civilians who are NOT hired or trained or prepared, it's madness.

[Jack_]

I don't know why people entertain LT's BS when he doesn't believe a word he's saying :laugh:

[Northern Monkey]

Of course it will. NM is right when he says it's mainly about fear. These kids join the police and straight away are bombarded with "horror stories" that make them fear for their lives and that sinks in so they start seeing any black face as having the potential to be their own horror story. Make no mistake though; the fact that it is fear based does NOT mean it isn't racism!

So they treat people like a lethal threat from the word go and end up twitchy, shooting first, further alienating groups of people, which leads to more violence, which is used to confirm the horror stories ("see? Didn't I warn you about them?") and so next time, the Cop has even more prejudice and is even more likely to shoot first and fast.

It is a cycle of violence but the professionals HAVE TO be the ones to put an end to it. They can be better trained, they can be better picked in the first place, they can be better prepared to resolve situations without violence whenever possible. It HAS to lie with the cops. You can't try to make the responsibility to end the cycle lie with random civilians who are NOT hired or trained or prepared, it's madness.
True.I don't think cops are literally going out saying 'lets go shoot some black guys' but they are scared and twitchy af when they do pullover or stop a black guy.As for who is to blame for this cycle well black communities have been shooting the crap out of each other for decades and the police have been racist in the past so who knows but it needs to be calmed down by the proffessionals.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I don't know why people entertain LT's BS when he doesn't believe a word he's saying :laugh:

Incorrect

Thankfully I can watch a video and realise that it is one view and it may be fictional

[Jack_]

Incorrect

Thankfully I can watch a video and realise that it is one view and it may be fictional

Whatever you say LT :joker:

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

This poor sista was just talking why the swat team? :rollseyes: https://twitter.com/thereaibanksy/status/751989375706099713

[Crimson Dynamo]

This poor sista was just talking why the swat team? :rollseyes: https://twitter.com/thereaibanksy/status/751989375706099713

:joker:

twitter

brilliant

[Tom4784]

The only sources that are applicable are sources that support LT's argument.

[Ninastar]

bringing this from the other thread because the other one is about the police officers

The difference is that they were more likely to be lawful shootings, given how the phrase 'Black Lives Matter' causes certain white people to froth at the mouth in rage how do you think they'd react if a white person was executed by the police in a similar fashion to these killings? There'd be riots.

If what happened to Tamir Rice happened to a white child there'd be calls for blood.

There's an imbalance here, I'm not against lawful killings if there's no other way but considering it feels like there's a new incident like this happening every other week it feels foolish to deny there's a problem. Nothing will change if we bury our heads in the sand but if the american people take a stand against Police Brutality then it benefits everyone.


"The difference is that they were more likely to be lawful shootings,"

I don't believe that for a second. To assume that a white officer would just kill someone because they are black is absolutely ridiculous. If you look at all those killed by the police this year, more white people have been killed than black/mexican people combined. Just because we don't have recordings of white people being shot 'for no reason' doesn't mean that it doesn't happen.

"given how the phrase 'Black Lives Matter' causes certain white people to froth at the mouth in rage how do you think they'd react if a white person was executed by the police in a similar fashion to these killings? There'd be riots. "

I don't think there would be. Social media tends to be quite biased in the favour of minorities (I'm not saying thats a bad thing) and I don't think that there'd be anywhere near as bad a reaction if a white person was killed 'for no reason'

"If what happened to Tamir Rice happened to a white child there'd be calls for blood. "

I'm not going to talk about this because it opens a new argument which I will probably upset people with.

"There's an imbalance here, I'm not against lawful killings if there's no other way but considering it feels like there's a new incident like this happening every other week it feels foolish to deny there's a problem."

I can understand why you feel this way, I really do. I just don't think this is being reported fairly and whilst I do feel bad for the families, I think that most of the people who have been killed by police could have had it prevented if they had just listened.

I think this woman gets the point across better than me. I know its about Mike Brown but the point still stands (towards the end more so)

ng6uMw6Xgwk

"Nothing will change if we bury our heads in the sand but if the american people take a stand against Police Brutality then it benefits everyone."

Again I can totally see why you'd think this, but again I don't think 'police brutality' is any where near as bad as the media makes it out to be. I'm going to pinch Maru's post because she summed it up perfectly and we all know I'm not good with words.

"National media is basically tabloids disguised as real news on TV 24/7. It is 95% entertainment, 4.9% headlines, .1% facts. 100% of the coverage is Donald Trump, BLM, evil law enforcement, dead people, mass shootings and constant coverage of celebrity deaths (like Anna Nicole Smith, who cares ). Donald Trump gets more coverage than the superbowl. A racist self-absorbed prick's opinion is more important than delivering the facts around majorly important issues. Ok.

If you listened to national media all day you would think our society has gone insane, but it's a major distortion of life here that people eat it up because it adds color and meaning to their otherwise mundane lives. Disenfranchised people want other people to blame. Businesses want other parties to be responsible for their failures. The public hear that actual effort won't fix the issues, but getting attention and promoting violence will (by suggesting people will arm themselves or go to the streets)."

This makes me sound like an awful, naive, uneducated person but I'm not, lol. Being a minority myself, I'd hate to see another minority being treated unfairly because of who they are. I just don't think that in most cases the media is talking about is actually what the media tells us.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

The only sources that are applicable are sources that support LT's argument.

I mean, videos themselves are best proof. :laugh:

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

bringing this from the other thread because the other one is about the police officers




"The difference is that they were more likely to be lawful shootings,"

I don't believe that for a second. To assume that a white officer would just kill someone because they are black is absolutely ridiculous. If you look at all those killed by the police this year, more white people have been killed than black/mexican people combined. Just because we don't have recordings of white people being shot 'for no reason' doesn't mean that it doesn't happen.

"given how the phrase 'Black Lives Matter' causes certain white people to froth at the mouth in rage how do you think they'd react if a white person was executed by the police in a similar fashion to these killings? There'd be riots. "

I don't think there would be. Social media tends to be quite biased in the favour of minorities (I'm not saying thats a bad thing) and I don't think that there'd be anywhere near as bad a reaction if a white person was killed 'for no reason'

"If what happened to Tamir Rice happened to a white child there'd be calls for blood. "

I'm not going to talk about this because it opens a new argument which I will probably upset people with.

"There's an imbalance here, I'm not against lawful killings if there's no other way but considering it feels like there's a new incident like this happening every other week it feels foolish to deny there's a problem."

I can understand why you feel this way, I really do. I just don't think this is being reported fairly and whilst I do feel bad for the families, I think that most of the people who have been killed by police could have had it prevented if they had just listened.

I think this woman gets the point across better than me. I know its about Mike Brown but the point still stands (towards the end more so)

ng6uMw6Xgwk

"Nothing will change if we bury our heads in the sand but if the american people take a stand against Police Brutality then it benefits everyone."

Again I can totally see why you'd think this, but again I don't think 'police brutality' is any where near as bad as the media makes it out to be. I'm going to pinch Maru's post because she summed it up perfectly and we all know I'm not good with words.

"National media is basically tabloids disguised as real news on TV 24/7. It is 95% entertainment, 4.9% headlines, .1% facts. 100% of the coverage is Donald Trump, BLM, evil law enforcement, dead people, mass shootings and constant coverage of celebrity deaths (like Anna Nicole Smith, who cares ). Donald Trump gets more coverage than the superbowl. A racist self-absorbed prick's opinion is more important than delivering the facts around majorly important issues. Ok.

If you listened to national media all day you would think our society has gone insane, but it's a major distortion of life here that people eat it up because it adds color and meaning to their otherwise mundane lives. Disenfranchised people want other people to blame. Businesses want other parties to be responsible for their failures. The public hear that actual effort won't fix the issues, but getting attention and promoting violence will (by suggesting people will arm themselves or go to the streets)."

This makes me sound like an awful, naive, uneducated person but I'm not, lol. Being a minority myself, I'd hate to see another minority being treated unfairly because of who they are. I just don't think that in most cases the media is talking about is actually what the media tells us.



I don't believe that for a second. To assume that a white officer would just kill someone because they are black is absolutely ridiculous. If you look at all those killed by the police this year, more white people have been killed than black/mexican people combined. Just because we don't have recordings of white people being shot 'for no reason' doesn't mean that it doesn't happen.



It would be ridiculous if you re not part of a certain demographic or haven't experienced it yourself. But having said that it's not that ridiculous because this has been going on for long time, people are only talking about it more now thanks t the help of social media. When you have tapes like MARK FURHMAN where he admits to targeting black people and planting evidence against them, it's not a far fetched concept that this sort of thing goes on.
Those numbers are debatable, there's different numbers everywhere. But the thing is if continuous unlawful killings happened to whites you can bet your ass the families wouldn't stay quiet, there would be world wide support and generally when things happen to white people new laws or acts are written in. This is why white people favor cops rather than blacks, they mostly have to deal with the police if they deserve it.

''I don't think there would be. Social media tends to be quite biased in the favour of minorities (I'm not saying thats a bad thing) and I don't think that there'd be anywhere near as bad a reaction if a white person was killed 'for no reason' ''

White people have a voice on twitter too. If it happened to them unlawfully on a regular basis we would hear about, simple.

'' I do feel bad for the families, I think that most of the people who have been killed by police could have had it prevented if they had just listened. ''

Eric Garner had his hands up, Alton Sterlin was pinned down, Philando Castille was reaching for his ID, Rodney king was beaten repeatedly by 4 cops as he lay on the ground...

[Crimson Dynamo]

The only sources that are applicable are sources that support LT's argument.

excuse me if I discount social media from proper evidence

I tend to be wary of evidence that starts "just cops making up for being bullied as kids"


:facepalm:

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Oh regarding Mike Brown stealing, this lady needs to be informed and not only go with what the media says. There is a video of Mike Brown paying.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It would be ridiculous if you re not part of a certain demographic or haven't experienced it yourself. But having said that it's not that ridiculous because this has been going on for long time, people are only talking about it more now thanks t the help of social media. When you have tapes like MARK FURHMAN where he admits to targeting black people and planting evidence against them, it's not a far fetched concept that this sort of thing goes on.
Those numbers are debatable, there's different numbers everywhere. But the thing is if continuous unlawful killings happened to whites you can bet your ass the families wouldn't stay quiet, there would be world wide support and generally when things happen to white people new laws or acts are written in. This is why white people favor cops rather than blacks, they mostly have to deal with the police if they deserve it.

''I don't think there would be. Social media tends to be quite biased in the favour of minorities (I'm not saying thats a bad thing) and I don't think that there'd be anywhere near as bad a reaction if a white person was killed 'for no reason' ''

White people have a voice on twitter too. If it happened to them unlawfully on a regular basis we would hear about, simple.

'' I do feel bad for the families, I think that most of the people who have been killed by police could have had it prevented if they had just listened. ''

Eric Garner had his hands up, Alton Sterlin was pinned down, Philando Castille was reaching for his ID, Rodney king was beaten repeatedly by 4 cops as he lay on the ground...

just taking one item here:

Philando Castille was reaching for his ID

can you tell me and the thread

1. apart from his girlfriend saying so how you know this is true?
2. how you know he had id in his pocket?
3. how you know he did not have a gun in his pocket and was going for that?


I am making no call either way in this case as I have no clue what went on but I would welcome your reply as you seem to have more information than what I have seen

[Crimson Dynamo]

A suburban Minnesota police officer who shot and killed a black motorist was reacting to the man's gun, not his race, the officer's attorney said Saturday


Philando Castile failed to comply with a "do not move" order, which lead to Yanez opening fire.

In addition, police scanner audio appears to indicate Yanez telling Dispatch he was pulling the car over because Castile fit the description of a wanted suspect in a armed robbery that took place a few days prior. The officer briefly describes Castille before exiting his cruiser.

Kelly told Fox News that if Yanez pulled Castille over that day because he believed him to fit the description of a wanted armed robbery suspect, the officer was doing "good police work and approved police work." He called this a "standard investigatory stop."

Castile's girlfriend Diamond Reynolds was in the car and streamed the immediate aftermath of the shooting live on Facebook. She has said Yanez shot Castile several times after he told the officer he had a gun and a permit for it and then reached for his wallet.

Yanez "was reacting to the actions of the driver," Kelly said. "This had nothing to do with race. This had everything to do with the presence of a gun."

A clearly distraught person who appears to be a police officer stands at the car's window, tells her to keep her hands up and says: "I told him not to reach for it. I told him to get his hand out."

Court records show the traffic stop was at least the 52nd time Castile, a 32-year-old school cafeteria supervisor, had been pulled over in the Minneapolis-St. Paul area since 2002.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/07/10/officer-who-shot-minnesota-man-reacted-to-gun-not-race-lawyer-says.html

[Cherie]

I don't know why people entertain LT's BS when he doesn't believe a word he's saying :laugh:

Breath taking stance from a "liberal" :joker:

[Jack_]

Breath taking stance from a "liberal" :joker:

Elaborate :unsure:

[Cherie]

Elaborate :unsure:



liberal
ˈlɪb(ə)r(ə)l/
adjective
1.
willing to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.


Dismissing someone's views as trolling is as far from liberal as you can get

[Jack_]

liberal
ˈlɪb(ə)r(ə)l/
adjective
1.
willing to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.


Dismissing someone's views as trolling is as far from liberal as you can get

Not exactly, do I accept that there are people who don't believe police brutality and institutionalised racism in the US is a problem? Obviously. But LeatherTrumpet isn't one of them, nor does he really believe Kate McCann is some wonderful woman either

He's entitled to post what he wants, that is being a liberal. And I'm entitled to say I believe he's being disingenuous, that's also liberal

[Alf]

bringing this from the other thread because the other one is about the police officers




"The difference is that they were more likely to be lawful shootings,"

I don't believe that for a second. To assume that a white officer would just kill someone because they are black is absolutely ridiculous. If you look at all those killed by the police this year, more white people have been killed than black/mexican people combined. Just because we don't have recordings of white people being shot 'for no reason' doesn't mean that it doesn't happen.

"given how the phrase 'Black Lives Matter' causes certain white people to froth at the mouth in rage how do you think they'd react if a white person was executed by the police in a similar fashion to these killings? There'd be riots. "

I don't think there would be. Social media tends to be quite biased in the favour of minorities (I'm not saying thats a bad thing) and I don't think that there'd be anywhere near as bad a reaction if a white person was killed 'for no reason'

"If what happened to Tamir Rice happened to a white child there'd be calls for blood. "

I'm not going to talk about this because it opens a new argument which I will probably upset people with.

"There's an imbalance here, I'm not against lawful killings if there's no other way but considering it feels like there's a new incident like this happening every other week it feels foolish to deny there's a problem."

I can understand why you feel this way, I really do. I just don't think this is being reported fairly and whilst I do feel bad for the families, I think that most of the people who have been killed by police could have had it prevented if they had just listened.

I think this woman gets the point across better than me. I know its about Mike Brown but the point still stands (towards the end more so)

ng6uMw6Xgwk

"Nothing will change if we bury our heads in the sand but if the american people take a stand against Police Brutality then it benefits everyone."

Again I can totally see why you'd think this, but again I don't think 'police brutality' is any where near as bad as the media makes it out to be. I'm going to pinch Maru's post because she summed it up perfectly and we all know I'm not good with words.

"National media is basically tabloids disguised as real news on TV 24/7. It is 95% entertainment, 4.9% headlines, .1% facts. 100% of the coverage is Donald Trump, BLM, evil law enforcement, dead people, mass shootings and constant coverage of celebrity deaths (like Anna Nicole Smith, who cares ). Donald Trump gets more coverage than the superbowl. A racist self-absorbed prick's opinion is more important than delivering the facts around majorly important issues. Ok.

If you listened to national media all day you would think our society has gone insane, but it's a major distortion of life here that people eat it up because it adds color and meaning to their otherwise mundane lives. Disenfranchised people want other people to blame. Businesses want other parties to be responsible for their failures. The public hear that actual effort won't fix the issues, but getting attention and promoting violence will (by suggesting people will arm themselves or go to the streets)."

This makes me sound like an awful, naive, uneducated person but I'm not, lol. Being a minority myself, I'd hate to see another minority being treated unfairly because of who they are. I just don't think that in most cases the media is talking about is actually what the media tells us.You are good with words, don't put yourself down, there's no need too.

[user104658]

liberal
ˈlɪb(ə)r(ə)l/
adjective
1.
willing to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.


Dismissing someone's views as trolling is as far from liberal as you can get
Not if it is legitimately trolling.

That said I don't think LT is (always) trolling, he has his moments but mostly he just has a few "sticky points" that he adheres to with bizarre stubbornness.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I feel like the guy in a wheelchair and people are talking to my carer and not me

:fist:

[user104658]

I feel like the guy in a wheelchair and people are talking to my carer and not me

:fist:
Hush, Cherie is doing your sponge bath at 6.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Hush, Cherie is doing your sponge bath at 6.

:joker:

:creep:

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/breaking-dispatch-audio-philando-castile/

So from a distance the officer was able to spot a wide set nose that resembled one from a suspect-how close was he driving to spot this nose? 🤔 When you stop someone for suspected robbery you're not going to tell them you suspect them you ask for ID which he did, he must've have mentioned the taillight as a reason to stop them instead to hide the true intentions so I don't think the gf was lying because she wouldn't pick up the camera and lie so blatantly with the officer there. Castille didn't have to tell him he had a gun but he did for his knowledge and as per American law he had a right to carry that gun. Castille has no harsh criminal record, mostly traffic offices ( which we know thanks to the media always rushing for any criminal record when a black person is involved in anything and even indeed that gorilla incident) - he wasn't allowed to drive, he wasn't. I doubt he was going to shoot this man in front of a 4 yr old.

We need to verify that this new audio from the officer is authentic.

[Cherie]

Hush, Cherie is doing your sponge bath at 6.

I think you should take over the sponging as you think LT isn't capable of rational thought :hmph:

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/breaking-dispatch-audio-philando-castile/

So from a distance the officer was able to spot a wide set nose that resembled one from a suspect-how close was he driving to spot this nose? 🤔 When you stop someone for suspected robbery you're not going to tell them you suspect them you ask for ID which he did, he must've have mentioned the taillight as a reason to stop them instead to hide the true intentions so I don't think the gf was lying because she wouldn't pick up the camera and lie so blatantly with the officer there. Castille didn't have to tell him he had a gun but he did for his knowledge and as per American law he had a right to carry that gun. Castille has no harsh criminal record, mostly traffic offices ( which we know thanks to the media always rushing for any criminal record when a black person is involved in anything and even indeed that gorilla incident) - he wasn't allowed to drive, he wasn't. I doubt he was going to shoot this man in front of a 4 yr old.

We need to verify that this new audio from the officer is authentic.


This info has already been posted in the thread and the fact it was a suspected robbery stop has been confirmed by the officer's attorney


I posted this just after i posted 3 questions for you that you must have forgotten to answer

:think:

[user104658]

I think you should take over the sponging as you think LT isn't capable of rational thought :hmph:
Last time I tried he called the cops and they tried to shoot me.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Nixon signs bill to limit access to police videos :laugh: what's spurred this on? :conf:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nixon signs bill to limit access to police videos :laugh: what's spurred this on? :conf:

idiots who watch videos and think they are judge and jury evidence


like the Dallas shooter




sounds like an excellent idea

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

The Dallas shooting wasn't just based on current events. Besides released videos are necessary so the public is not lies to. I watched a lot of programmes on corrupt crimes and the amount of times the police department cover up facts is astonishing. Released videos is necessary.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The Dallas shooting wasn't just based on current events. Besides released videos are necessary so the public is not lies to. I watched a lot of programmes on corrupt crimes and the amount of times the police department cover up facts is astonishing. Released videos is necessary.

incorrect

without context or input from the police they are incendiary and useless

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Last time I tried he called the cops and they tried to shoot me.

Standard procedure.

[arista]

incorrect

without context or input from the police they are incendiary and useless


Yes the Arrogance!

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

The fear is that the released video can provide the full context. :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

The fear is that the released video can provide the full context. :laugh:

incorrect

[Alf]

Diamond and Silk

:clap1:



7fb_hXTjbO0

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

incorrect

Correct as nobody would know Eric Garner had his hands up or that Mike Brown actually paid :laugh:

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Diamond and Silk

:clap1:



7fb_hXTjbO0

Summarise ain't nobody got time to watch 20 min foolery.

Why don't all rights matter when gays fight for rights? Everyone has to impose themselves when blacks fight for rights? :laugh:

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Diamond and Silk

:clap1:



7fb_hXTjbO0

Few minutes in

" most of those cops act on fear. Mostly fear of the black men- we don't know why they're afraid. Maybe one of them shot them, shot their family " yes let's stereotype black men and focus on to the root of the cops fear but not the black mans


Let's sit down and solve he problem on he table. Whose table? How long have black people been either marching or talking about the problem even on the news but they're shot down?

" Left wing media is trying to divide us by saying a white cop shot a black man-bonus points for unarmed" sigh how much did he pay these 2 heffas

Ok fine all lives matter. But can we still discuss the Mark Furhmans , the Eric Garners?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Few minutes in

" most of those cops act on fear. Mostly fear of the black men- we don't know why they're afraid. Maybe one of them shot them, shot their family " yes let's stereotype black men and focus on to the root of the cops fear but not the black mans


Let's sit down and solve he problem on he table. Whose table? How long have black people been either marching or talking about the problem even on the news but they're shot down?

" Left wing media is trying to divide us by saying a white cop shot a black man-bonus points for unarmed" sigh how much did he pay these 2 heffas

Ok fine all lives matter. But can we still discuss the Mark Furhmans , the Eric Garners?

Do you know how many black peoples lives are saved by the Police in the USA every year?

[Crimson Dynamo]

and still waiting for you to reply to post 117

seems that the cat has got your tongue?

[lewis111]

Watching the way Blacks are treated at the peaceful protests is so discomforting

[Crimson Dynamo]

Watching the way Blacks are treated at the peaceful protests is so discomforting

Was that the peaceful protest where 5 policemen were murdered?

[Ninastar]

https://www.facebook.com/ryanalexandercarr/videos/566566043547476/?pnref=story

I agree with a lot of this. Not all of it but I agree with what he says in reply to those tweets.

[kirklancaster]

https://www.facebook.com/ryanalexandercarr/videos/566566043547476/?pnref=story

I agree with a lot of this. Not all of it but I agree with what he says in reply to those tweets.

:worship::worship::worship: To Ryan Carr - I have a new hero. :hee:

Thank you too for Posting this.

[lewis111]

Was that the peaceful protest where 5 policemen were murdered?

No the many many other ones where no one was even injured except those who were tackled to the ground by police

[Tom4784]

Do you know how many black peoples lives are saved by the Police in the USA every year?

And what does that have to do with innocent black people being executed by officers that are bumbling an incompetent at best or who are guilty of racially motivated murder at worst?

One doesn't cancel out the other. it's very peculiar how eager you are to brush incidents like this under the carpet.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Was that the peaceful protest where 5 policemen were murdered?

Pics show the protest was peaceful until that shooter came along. There is even a pic of protester posing with a cop, all smiles.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

https://www.facebook.com/ryanalexandercarr/videos/566566043547476/?pnref=story

I agree with a lot of this. Not all of it but I agree with what he says in reply to those tweets.
"Native Americans were already killing each other" well I suppose it makes it alright then that you thought it was your duty to hold down the fort, kill the rest of them and take the land.

There are 46 millions slaves today- I suppose it's alright then it completely makes our part in slavery system irrelevant :joker:

This whole video reads yeah we did bad things but your feelings and points of view are invalid because other people do bad things too. :joker: and the fact that there are black entertainers has no bearing on anything- Neil Patrick Harris is one of the best paid actors and there are gays everywhere in Hollywood and general tv doesn't mean there aren't gay issues :rolleyes:

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Black people make 13% of the US population. Never going to win against the white majority. Never mind the world is ending soon anyway. We tried :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Pics show the protest was peaceful until that shooter came along. There is even a pic of protester posing with a cop, all smiles.

arrests this weekend at BLM protests

300


:rolleyes:

[Crimson Dynamo]

And what does that have to do with innocent black people being executed by officers that are bumbling an incompetent at best or who are guilty of racially motivated murder at worst?

One doesn't cancel out the other. it's very peculiar how eager you are to brush incidents like this under the carpet.

innocent black people being executed by officers

evidence?




utterly unbelievable



i am amazed you are allowed to post that ion Tibb

AMAZED

[Alf]

https://www.facebook.com/ryanalexandercarr/videos/566566043547476/?pnref=story

I agree with a lot of this. Not all of it but I agree with what he says in reply to those tweets.PJW,s latest vid Will anger the forum's Beyoncé fans. :joker:


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[Crimson Dynamo]

:clap1:

haha

He totally shows her up

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

arrests this weekend at BLM protests

300


:rolleyes:

Various sources show that some of those arrest wasn't due to violence or hateful speech :rolleyes: