Leadsom: Being a mother gives me an advantage over Theresa May.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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Andrea Leadsom claimed being a mother would make her a better leader
Comes days after Theresa May revealed sadness at having no children
Home Secretary's supporters condemned the remarks as 'disgusting'
Mrs Leadsom has taken to Twitter to furiously deny the comments


Tory leadership contender Andrea Leadsom has sparked outrage after claiming she has the edge over rival Theresa May - because she is a mother.
Theresa May’s supporters last night reacted with indignation, condemning remarks as ‘disgusting’.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3681695/Fury-Tory-hopeful-Andrea-Leadsom-says-mother-gives-edge-Theresa-just-days-Home-Secretary-speaks-sadness-never-having-children.html#ixzz4DtVKkuU9


The Times ran the story and have released the audio of the interview and the journo was on BBC news this morning defending the article.

She did say it but also said along the lines of but i dont want this to be made into an issue thus ensuring she has an out.


So was she devious, naive or is this just Murdoch picking PMs again and supporting May?

[joeysteele]

I cannot see Murdoch particularly wanting May,he said he wanted the UK to leave the EU.

Anyway back to Leadsom, she volunteered her quote of being a Mother and having Children who will have children in the future.
She made the issue of it.
No doubt in my mind she is devious,I would not trust a thing she says or does and I think she is likely trying to deceive those who will votes in this, to believe she is someone positive, which in my view she is not.

If she really did not want this to become an issue, she should not have brought it up in the first place,all she is mad at is how it has been reported.
Frankly the audio recording sounds just the same as the actual report.

This Woman is not to be trusted in my opinion.

[arista]

Yes that's the Start of my Vote Thread


Mother

or the Non Mother.


Andrea Leadsom claims
the Times remixed what she said.

But if she does not shut this up
it will back fire

Ref: Former Tory whip on LBC

[arista]

I cannot see Murdoch particularly wanting May,he said he wanted the UK to leave the EU.

Anyway back to Leadsom, she volunteered her quote of being a Mother and having Children who will have children in the future.
She made the issue of it.
No doubt in my mind she is devious,I would not trust a thing she says or does and I think she is likely trying to deceive those who will votes in this, to believe she is someone positive, which in my view she is not.

If she really did not want this to become an issue, she should not have brought it up in the first place,all she is mad at is how it has been reported.
Frankly the audio recording sounds just the same as the actual report.

This Woman is not to be trusted in my opinion.


that's YOUR guess/

[joeysteele]

that's YOUR guess/

Well of course it is, what else could it be, all any of us can do on here is guess or give the opinions we have formed from what we have observed and heard to make up that opinion.

To not do so would eliminate the need for any threads at all and no reason to post either, so in effect no need for a forum either really.

What on earth kind of point is that you are making as to 'that's your guess'.

[arista]

Its wrong of you
He is in NYC - You do not know who he is backing


You must learn to Follow The Money

[joeysteele]

Its wrong of you
He is in NYC - You do not know who he is backing


You must learn to Follow The Money

If following the money means tolerating or supporting the likes of Murdoch,then no way will I ever do that.

He should keep his nose out of our politics and also how the papers he owns reports too.
Either its a free press or its not, if he dictates what stand they should take on issues then it is controlled press.

Far better remove him form owning anything in the UK as to the media at all,that I would support 100%.

The opening post asked was this that Murdoch preferred May, I said I cannot see him wanting May.

What on earth is the issue that you have to raise so much as to what I said,for crying out loud.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Theresa May has tried and failed to have children, its a bit of a low blow

Perhaps the lowest blow a woman van make to another woman?

[kirklancaster]

Well of course it is, what else could it be, all any of us can do on here is guess or give the opinions we have formed from what we have observed and heard to make up that opinion.

To not do so would eliminate the need for any threads at all and no reason to post either, so in effect no need for a forum either really.

What on earth kind of point is that you are making as to 'that's your guess'.

:joker:

[arista]

If following the money means tolerating or supporting the likes of Murdoch,then no way will I ever do that.
He should keep his nose out of our politics and also how the papers he owns reports too.
Either its a free press or its not, if he dictates what stand they should take on issues then it is controlled press.

Far better remove him form owning anything in the UK as to the media at all,that I would support 100%.

The opening post asked was this that Murdoch preferred May, I said I cannot see him wanting May.

What on earth is the issue that you have to raise so much as to what I said,for crying out loud.


No Does not Mean you "Yourself"
Following him.

But Like a Legal Team
would dig up the true backers

That's Following The money

[smudgie]

She made her point of view very clear when she went on to say that she had children, against only having nephews and nieces.
Quite a nasty piece of work under all that smiley happy face.:fist:

[arista]

Theresa May has tried and failed to have children, its a bit of a low blow

Perhaps the lowest blow a woman van make to another woman?


Andrea never said it
like that


No Low Blows


T.May is a Professional
this is all below her
BBC crap.


Good ON LBC - Gave us the Truth

[Cherie]

Theresa May has tried and failed to have children, its a bit of a low blow

Perhaps the lowest blow a woman van make to another woman?

Quite disgusting especially as TM did not choose not to have kids

[Crimson Dynamo]

Looks like its going to be a dirty cat fight this

[Cherie]

Looks like its going to be a dirty cat fight this

Honestly can you imagine a male claiming superiority in running the country because he is a Dad, it makes me embarrassed to be a woman :joker: and please let's not go down the hem line/ fashion route :facepalm:

[arista]

Looks like its going to be a dirty cat fight this


LBC Live


has it all


Old LibDem

Ch4HDNews Crick

Old Toe Sucker

[Cherie]

The Times headlined its front-page lead story "Being a mother gives me edge on May - Leadsom."
It quoted the energy minister as saying Mrs May "possibly has nieces, nephews, lots of people. But I have children who are going to have children who will directly be part of what happens next".

[Crimson Dynamo]

No Imagine a Male MP saying this because his competitor was Gay

that would be a sh1tstorm

[arista]

No Imagine a Male MP saying this because his competitor was Gay

that would be a sh1tstorm


There was a Closet Gay running
FOX

[arista]

The Times headlined its front-page lead story "Being a mother gives me edge on May - Leadsom."
It quoted the energy minister as saying Mrs May "possibly has nieces, nephews, lots of people. But I have children who are going to have children who will directly be part of what happens next".


From LBC

they have her on
Audio tape

So She must get on
TV News Live

[Tom4784]

What an awful thing to say.

[arista]

What an awful thing to say.


No she has Corrected it now

[Black Dagger]

She is only correcting it because it's been plastered all over the place.

Woman is a complete bellend.

[arista]

She is only correcting it because it's been plastered all over the place.

Woman is a complete bellend.



One Caller to LBC
Mellor / Crick ( early on)
said he liked her raw
not infected by the Media Training etc.

[Livia]

As I often say on here, you hear of stories of children who've been beaten, burned, starved to death, who die in the most horrific way at the hands of their parents. Giving birth gives you no advantage over women who haven't.

That said, I've seen no proof that she made this claim and I'd be really surprised that a woman in her position would poison her own campaign in this way.

[joeysteele]

As I often say on here, you hear of stories of children who've been beaten, burned, starved to death, who die in the most horrific way at the hands of their parents. Giving birth gives you no advantage over women who haven't.

That said, I've seen no proof that she made this claim and I'd be really surprised that a woman in her position would poison her own campaign in this way.

Then why set herself up by even mentioning she was a Mother and that her Children and Grandchildren have a stake in the future.

She was the one who brought Theresa May's name into the interview, not the reporters.
Then she used that to set herself aside from May because she has children and Theresa May does not.

She has simply been caught out for the probable but in my view certain deceit she is trying to bring to her ambitions.

The choices, in my opinion, between these 2 for PM are like either having all your top teeth pulled out or all your bottom teeth pulled out.
However that one is a Mother with Grandchildren is neither here nor there, or should it be, so why should she get away with raising that comparison, by any means,at all anyway.

Hopefully this has sealed her fate in this contest and deservedly negatively.

[Jake.]

disgusting bitch

[arista]

As I often say on here, you hear of stories of children who've been beaten, burned, starved to death, who die in the most horrific way at the hands of their parents. Giving birth gives you no advantage over women who haven't.

That said, I've seen no proof that she made this claim and I'd be really surprised that a woman in her position would poison her own campaign in this way.


Yes this all started From Day 1
of the race.

Crick/Mellor (Early show on podcast now)LBC saying
she has to say until the last vote Sept 9th
so T. May is Legit.

[Livia]

Sounds like a set up to me so I really want to know more about the interview and the context of her comments rather than get a bit hysterical over what was allegedly said. People are desperate for May, a remainer, to be PM. Funny how no one smells a rat if it all fits in with their own agenda.

[arista]

Sounds like a set up to me so I really want to know more about the interview and the context of her comments rather than get a bit hysterical over what was allegedly said. People are desperate for May, a remainer, to be PM. Funny how no one smells a rat if it all fits in with their own agenda.



Yes to confuse the public
keep the BBC busy etc
The Times recorded it

thats bloody normal

Thank You LBC and Livia (of tibb)

[Livia]

Yes to confuse the public
keep the BBC busy etc
The Times recorded it

thats bloody normal

Thank You LBC and Livia (of tibb)

No, no... thank you arista, also of TiBB.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Sounds like a set up to me so I really want to know more about the interview and the context of her comments rather than get a bit hysterical over what was allegedly said. People are desperate for May, a remainer, to be PM. Funny how no one smells a rat if it all fits in with their own agenda.

well I heard her say it and watched a full interview with the Times journo

Yes the sub Editor made the headline slightly more controversial as is always the way but it was exactly what she said, no question about it at all.

[joeysteele]

Sounds like a set up to me so I really want to know more about the interview and the context of her comments rather than get a bit hysterical over what was allegedly said. People are desperate for May, a remainer, to be PM. Funny how no one smells a rat if it all fits in with their own agenda.

Like leave supporters saying there should only be a brexit leader now and PM.

Does that not suit an agenda too then.

I cannot bear either of them but at least Theresa May has a stronger level of experience in govt,particularly with the EU as Home Secretary than Leadsom.

Desperate for May, I doubt many outside the Conservative party and a lot of its supporters are that to be honest and I certainly am not.

[Livia]

well I heard her say it and watched a full interview with the Times journo

Yes the sub Editor made the headline slightly more controversial as is always the way but it was exactly what she said, no question about it at all.

LT! How lovely to hear from you. I thought you had me on ignore...

I'd still like to hear it for myself for the context.

[Crimson Dynamo]

LT! How lovely to hear from you. I thought you had me on ignore...

I'd still like to hear it for myself for the context.

AMNNXMBy9Vg

[user104658]

Meh. Someone with children has a slight advantage for me in terms of becoming the leader of a country, because someone with children is forced to think beyond the scope of their own lifetime in ways that a childless person will never have to.

I don't see anything wrong with that as an opinion, to be honest. I guess it might leave childless people feeling a little butthurt or whatever but to be frank, I'm sick of there being limits on what people can and can't say for fear of "causing offense" or "hurting feelings". It's boring.

[Cherie]

Meh. Someone with children has a slight advantage for me in terms of becoming the leader of a country, because someone with children is forced to think beyond the scope of their own lifetime in ways that a childless person will never have to.

I don't see anything wrong with that as an opinion, to be honest. I guess it might leave childless people feeling a little butthurt or whatever but to be frank, I'm sick of there being limits on what people can and can't say for fear of "causing offense" or "hurting feelings". It's boring.

For me it's got little to do with hurt feelings, family life is something that wouldn't be brought up between two male candidates, neither would the colour of their tie or the length of their sleeve unless it was a serious wardrobe malfunction that deserved some ridicule :laugh:

[Niamh.]

Theresa May has tried and failed to have children, its a bit of a low blow

Perhaps the lowest blow a woman van make to another woman?

awful thing to say, she should lose just for that tbh

[Livia]

I don't think it was a poke at May, she was asked a question and answered it. I don't agree with what she said but I don't think she meant any injury to anyone in particular.

[joeysteele]

awful thing to say, she should lose just for that tbh

She should indeed.

There was absolutely no need to make any issue of it and build herself up as to it,and certainly no reason to mention Theresa May either, since the interviewer never mentioned or asked about Theresa May anyway.

[Northern Monkey]

Seems like a storm in a teacup tbh.

[Northern Monkey]

Meh. Someone with children has a slight advantage for me in terms of becoming the leader of a country, because someone with children is forced to think beyond the scope of their own lifetime in ways that a childless person will never have to.

I don't see anything wrong with that as an opinion, to be honest. I guess it might leave childless people feeling a little butthurt or whatever but to be frank, I'm sick of there being limits on what people can and can't say for fear of "causing offense" or "hurting feelings". It's boring.

:clap1:

[Crimson Dynamo]

meh I have children and im not thinking of their future

the vile little brats can work that one out themselves when im dead

[user104658]

Yeah Theresa May feels sad because someone said something about her not having kids. We need to make her feel better somehow! I know what will help, let's put her in charge of the entire country! She deserves it now because she's feeling a bit down-in-the-dumps.

[user104658]

meh I have children and im not thinking of their future

the vile little brats can work that one out themselves when im dead
It's OK, we already know that LT only cares about LT

... And American Cops. And Kate McCann.

[Jack_]

It's OK, we already know that LT only cares about LT

... And American Cops. And Kate McCann.

:joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker::joker::joker: :joker: :joker:

[Cherie]

Yeah Theresa May feels sad because someone said something about her not having kids. We need to make her feel better somehow! I know what will help, let's put her in charge of the entire country! She deserves it now because she's feeling a bit down-in-the-dumps.

You can hardly blame her team for using this to their advantage, if Andrea hasn't the common sense to keep her mouth shut on such issues

[Ammi]

Meh. Someone with children has a slight advantage for me in terms of becoming the leader of a country, because someone with children is forced to think beyond the scope of their own lifetime in ways that a childless person will never have to.

I don't see anything wrong with that as an opinion, to be honest. I guess it might leave childless people feeling a little butthurt or whatever but to be frank, I'm sick of there being limits on what people can and can't say for fear of "causing offense" or "hurting feelings". It's boring.

..that would only apply though or would only have a possibility of applying to what her 'visions' would be as a country leader if it was her motivation and not her own personal career move...but anyway it doesn't give her any advantage for me because it assumes or implies that those without children..(specifically females..)...don't see beyond themselves, which is totally ridiculous....

[the truth]

For me it's got little to do with hurt feelings, family life is something that wouldn't be brought up between two male candidates, neither would the colour of their tie or the length of their sleeve unless it was a serious wardrobe malfunction that deserved some ridicule :laugh:

soory but thats nonsense. in politics everything is thrown up, dead daddys financial affairs, disabled children, beards, clothes, ginger hair, links to communists, shagging pigs, pls dont bother trying to turn this into more feminist nonsense. this is politics, its brutal

[Vicky.]

I don't think it was meant as a pop at May, though obviously it can be seen that way.

That said, these two choices for me are like chosing between sticking a pin in my eye and sticking a needle in my eye tbh. Same ****, different name.

[joeysteele]

I don't think it was meant as a pop at May, though obviously it can be seen that way.

That said, these two choices for me are like chosing between sticking a pin in my eye and sticking a needle in my eye tbh. Same ****, different name.




:joker: That's much better than mine as to top or bottom teeth being pulled out, good one.:joker:

[the truth]

I don't think it was meant as a pop at May, though obviously it can be seen that way.

That said, these two choices for me are like chosing between sticking a pin in my eye and sticking a needle in my eye tbh. Same ****, different name.

do women really understand how sensitive scrotums are ?

[Vicky.]

do women really understand how sensitive scrotums are ?

As we don't have one, we can't

This seems random though, are you feeling ok?

[the truth]

As we don't have one, we can't

This seems random though, are you feeling ok?

yes thanks lol i havent had my balls hit since my ex gf
I mentioned this delicate subject in response to this quote in your last post
i googled scrotum

'a pouch of skin containing the testicles.'

is this thread about big balls


just ask any man and they will enlighten you as the the pain, its probably the equivalent to giving birth through a penis

[Cherie]

soory but thats nonsense. in politics everything is thrown up, dead daddys financial affairs, disabled children, beards, clothes, ginger hair, links to communists, shagging pigs, pls dont bother trying to turn this into more feminist nonsense. this is politics, its brutal

You completely misinterpreted my post but hey ho

[Jake.]

yes thanks lol i havent had my balls hit since my ex gf
I mentioned this delicate subject in response to this quote in your last post
i googled scrotum

'a pouch of skin containing the testicles.'

is this thread about big balls


just ask any man and they will enlighten you as the the pain, its probably the equivalent to giving birth through a penis

probably isn't though

[the truth]

For me it's got little to do with hurt feelings, family life is something that wouldn't be brought up between two male candidates, neither would the colour of their tie or the length of their sleeve unless it was a serious wardrobe malfunction that deserved some ridicule :laugh:

did I? you said family life wouldnt be brought up with male candidates and that is 100% nonsense , no offence

[the truth]

probably isn't though
depends on the pregnancy and depends on how hard the kick is to the balls

[Jake.]

depends on the pregnancy and depends on how hard the kick is to the balls

well unless the kick stretched a hole in your testicals to the size of a watermelon then I don't think I agree

[AnnieK]

well unless the kick stretched a hole in your testicals to the size of a watermelon then I don't think I agree

And the pain from that kick gets increasingly worse for anything up to around 36 hours :laugh:

[Jake.]

And the pain from that kick gets increasingly worse for anything up to around 36 hours :laugh:

:laugh:

[Vicky.]

yes thanks lol i havent had my balls hit since my ex gf
I mentioned this delicate subject in response to this quote in your last post
i googled scrotum

'a pouch of skin containing the testicles.'

is this thread about big balls


just ask any man and they will enlighten you as the the pain, its probably the equivalent to giving birth through a penis
Ohhh I totally forgot that was in my signature... though I had missed something :joker: