Government has Ruled NO 2nd Referendum

[arista]

Government
Has said we must respect the voters




Bliss



LBC : Live

[Mystic Mock]

Are they gonna do that when 52% vote to leave the UK from Scotland? Or is the 60% or more gonna come into play conveniently at that vote?

[Tom4784]

Good, the voters have made their beds and now they've got to lie in them.

[joeysteele]

Perhaps it is all of Parliaments MPs who should actually be saying that via a vote held in the House of Commons,since this was an all party campaign as to both sides.
Not just the government's.

I thought part of the leave argument was to bring to the UK more sovereignty and democracy back to Parliament, not just hand all on a plate to existing government and ignoring all other Parties and MPs views.

[Livia]

Are they gonna do that when 52% vote to leave the UK from Scotland? Or is the 60% or more gonna come into play conveniently at that vote?

Well, you know what to do next time there's an election, don't you Mock. Get off your arse and vote. It's a shame it's taken this to show people how important voting is, perhaps it'll end the apathy where young people voting is concerned.

[joeysteele]

Are they gonna do that when 52% vote to leave the UK from Scotland? Or is the 60% or more gonna come into play conveniently at that vote?

Who knows Mock, who knows.
It wasn't a feature last time so after this mess too of a EU vote result,I cannot see how they can force conditions on that now in the future as to a 2nd referendum.

I am also pleased that Ruth Davidson the leader of the Scottish Conservatives has said, that Westminster should not try to block a 2nd referendum vote in Scotland if it comes to pass through Holyrood.
That would be real and pure hypocrisy.

You had good reasons why you did not vote too, I know that, so please ignore lectures you may get.

Margaret Thatcher it was who believed that those who did not vote, gave consent to the status quo.
Love her or hate her, it is a pity we no longer have any politician like her now, one who really led her party and looked not only at things won and lost but how they were won or lost too.

A lot more voted when she was active in Politics too.

[Livia]

The EU result is only a mess to those who didn't want it. Sadly for them, not enough remainers voted. That's how it works.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Good, the voters have made their beds and now they've got to lie in them.

no Dezzy that is not how democracy works i am afraid

We all have made that choice, when you put your mark next to remain you agreed to the majority decision


consider your bed made now get on with making the country great again

we need dooers not moaners

[Rob!]

Good, the voters have made their beds and now they've got to lie in them.

Yeah and the people who didn't vote for this absolute disaster have got to lie in the same beds

[joeysteele]

So anyone voting Conservative in a general election and getting Labour one should just shut up and get on with it and not moan at the govt.

Likewise vice versa if those voting Labour end up with a Conservative one.
What an odd democracy that is, if your real concerns and worries have to be suppressed just because of a vote.

Whoever won this referendum should have been the one who got at least 50% of eligible voters for it.
Funny how conditions like that can be made to apply to Unions and strike action but not for a major decision as this was.

[kirklancaster]

no Dezzy that is not how democracy works i am afraid

We all have made that choice, when you put your mark next to remain you agreed to the majority decision


consider your bed made now get on with making the country great again

we need dooers not moaners

:clap1::clap1::clap1::clap1: Absolutely LT.

(p.s. I did not want to use just one emoticon, because I did not want you telling Marsh that I had given you the clap :hee:)

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yeah and the people who didn't vote for this absolute disaster have got to lie in the same beds

do you mean all the 18-24s who could not be bothered to vote?

[Rob!]

Plus, try as I might I am yet to find anything or anyone who has actually pointed out any positives in this situation whatsoever? "Britain will be great again." Lovely. How?

[Rob!]

do you mean all the 18-24s who could not be bothered to vote?

No, I'm talking about the ones that could.

[Crimson Dynamo]

64% of 18-24s did not vote

if anyone is looking for a scapegoat I give you them

[Rob!]

64% of 18-24s did not vote

if anyone is looking for a scapegoat I give you them

Good for them. It still doesn't answer the question about what is actually positive about this outcome.

[Crimson Dynamo]

18-24: 36%
25-34: 58%
35-44: 72%
45-54: 75%
55-64: 81%
65+: 83%

[Crimson Dynamo]

Good for them. It still doesn't answer the question about what is actually positive about this outcome.

what are you looking for?

[Tom4784]

no Dezzy that is not how democracy works i am afraid

We all have made that choice, when you put your mark next to remain you agreed to the majority decision


consider your bed made now get on with making the country great again

we need dooers not moaners

Enough with the trolling, LT. It's very tiresome.

[Tom4784]

Yeah and the people who didn't vote for this absolute disaster have got to lie in the same beds

But we at least get to say 'I told you so' when it all goes tits up.

[Rob!]

what are you looking for?

A single reason as to why this was a good idea?

[Crimson Dynamo]

A single reason as to why this was a good idea?

what advantages were you getting by our membership yourself?

[Crimson Dynamo]

his is a good pro con article

http://www.theweek.co.uk/brexit-0

[arista]

Are they gonna do that when 52% vote to leave the UK from Scotland? Or is the 60% or more gonna come into play conveniently at that vote?


Today Scotland is part of the UK

it up to Them to Join the €
Until then - they are Chicken


I have done a thread on that in Chat and Games

[arista]

A single reason as to why this was a good idea?


But all the Polling
and the bloody US President Bullying us
they thought they had it in the bag,


But so many
folks had waited YEARS for this

I knew the Result before 7AM that day
I could Feel it

[Rob!]

what advantages were you getting by our membership yourself?

What as in me the 28 year old spar worker? :shrug:

The country I live in had better financial security, apparently 46% less racial attacks and not the potential to have a prime minister who is against human rights, pro fox hunting, against gay marriage and maternity leave and minimum wages for small businesses.

[Crimson Dynamo]

What as in me the 28 year old spar worker? :shrug:

The country I live in had better financial security, apparently 46% less racial attacks and not the potential to have a prime minister who is against human rights, pro fox hunting, against gay marriage and maternity leave and minimum wages for small businesses.

forget the racial attacks bollocks as it is reported incidents and this may be a good thing as noiw people are more inclined to report them so this will have a beneficial effect

Its way way too soon to make any financial call as we are still in the EU for 2 years and i think its very very unlikely that leadsom will win

Dont forget we got Gordon Brown as a PM once and Tony Blair started a war to be pals with George Bush :umm2:

[Rob!]

forget the racial attacks bollocks as it is reported incidents and this may be a good thing as noiw people are more inclined to report them so this will have a beneficial effect

Its way way too soon to make any financial call as we are still in the EU for 2 years and i think its very very unlikely that leadsom will win

Dont forget we got Gordon Brown as a PM once and Tony Blair started a war to be pals with George Bush :umm2:

It's not exactly bollocks though is it? It's a genuine problem.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's not exactly bollocks though is it? It's a genuine problem.

no its not

reported incidents to a website with no investigation if true is hardly a problem

Have you noticed an increase in racism in the Spar or around your locale?

[Rob!]

no its not

reported incidents to a website with no investigation if true is hardly a problem

Have you noticed an increase in racism in the Spar or around your locale?

What does that have to do with anything? I come from the town that had the highest leave vote in the entire country. If there's been an increase in the sort of things that go on in Boston then yes, it is a very real problem.

Aside from that, it still doesn't take away from the fact that the country has and never did have any idea of what to do in this eventuality. The government frantically having to rearrange itself is not a good thing, especially when people's livelihoods, living costs and general day to day living expenses are at risk.

[Crimson Dynamo]

What does that have to do with anything? I come from the town that had the highest leave vote in the entire country. If there's been an increase in the sort of things that go on in Boston then yes, it is a very real problem.

Aside from that, it still doesn't take away from the fact that the country has and never did have any idea of what to do in this eventuality. The government frantically having to rearrange itself is not a good thing, especially when people's livelihoods, living costs and general day to day living expenses are at risk.

"If there's been an increase in the sort of things that go on in Boston then yes, it is a very real problem."

what do you mean?

[Rob!]

"If there's been an increase in the sort of things that go on in Boston then yes, it is a very real problem."

what do you mean?

What do you think I mean? I don't know or understand why you need me to define what I consider to be a racial attack?

[Crimson Dynamo]

What do you think I mean? I don't know or understand why you need me to define what I consider to be a racial attack?

I asked you if you had seen any racist attacks in your local area and you answered

"If there's been an increase in the sort of things that go on in Boston then yes, it is a very real problem."

that does not make sense. I take it Boston is your local town?

[Crimson Dynamo]

One in six in Boston are foreign-born after influx of Eastern Europeans
Town was rated worst for integration in research comparing 160 places
Migrants have been drawn to area by the many agricultural and factory jobs
Figures showed town had highest number of killings per 100,000 people


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3420245/Why-Boston-segregated-town-UK-Old-agricultural-industrial-heartlands-places-residents-live-parallel-lives.html#ixzz4Dv41AliZ

god it sounds vile

[Rob!]

One in six in Boston are foreign-born after influx of Eastern Europeans
Town was rated worst for integration in research comparing 160 places
Migrants have been drawn to area by the many agricultural and factory jobs
Figures showed town had highest number of killings per 100,000 people


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3420245/Why-Boston-segregated-town-UK-Old-agricultural-industrial-heartlands-places-residents-live-parallel-lives.html#ixzz4Dv41AliZ

god it sounds vile

It is a vile town. My own cousin was one of those number though a foreign person had absolutely nothing to do with it.
The migrants are drawn to Boston and the surrounding areas, as the article states, by the large number of land and factory jobs that the geographical location provides. Worth pointing out as well that the benefits ratio of Boston is also astronomical and it's certainly nothing to do with the fact that there aren't jobs available.