Snobbish Diva?

[camertone]

She comes across like she feels she's superior than others and also very snobbish diva..

[Ammi]

...she doesn't seem snobbish to me..I think maybe a bit intense/serious atm and more in her Loose Women vibe of trying to initiate conversations, rather than just to let it flow naturally and chill a bit...I think she'll settle though, it's just initial adjusting for her...she seems like she's going to be a good housemate I think...I like that she got the game-play going straight away...

[joeysteele]

I am not sure myself about her yet,she seems to want to be distant.

[Robodog]

Saira: "How dare you accuse me of thinking you are a racist! You must apologise to me for making such an offensive accusation (even though i did just say that! And i know you are only joking now to try and lighten the atmosphere)
By the way, in all seriousness, to repeat my earlier question. Are you a racist? I think you are, so if you want to avoid me then that's fine. Please help me. Please be a racist. I'm desperate for someone in there to be a racist. My whole game plan depends on it. "

Looking for the most judgemental bigot of the house, Saira? Maybe try one of the mirrors?




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[Clootie Dumpling]

...she doesn't seem snobbish to me..I think maybe a bit intense/serious atm and more in her Loose Women vibe of trying to initiate conversations, rather than just to let it flow naturally and chill a bit...I think she'll settle though, it's just initial adjusting for her...she seems like she's going to be a good housemate I think...I like that she got the game-play going straight away...

I agree, Ammi. She seems very straightforward and open to me in her conversations, rather than approaching them with an agenda.

I think she's very interested in discussing different opinions and her objectivity can be misinterpreted by people who are used to reacting emotionally to things.

[camertone]

Saira: "How dare you accuse me of thinking you are a racist! You must apologise to me for making such an offensive accusation (even though i did just say that! And i know you are only joking now to try and lighten the atmosphere)
By the way, in all seriousness, to repeat my earlier question. Are you a racist? I think you are, so if you want to avoid me then that's fine. Please help me. Please be a racist. I'm desperate for someone in there to be a racist. My whole game plan depends on it. "

Looking for the most judgemental bigot of the house, Saira? Maybe try one of the mirrors?




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yea, it looks as she is looking for racist person in the house and then confront it, and become a righteous and sanctimonious one.

[Clootie Dumpling]

yea, it looks as she is looking for racist person in the house and then confront it, and become a righteous and sanctimonious one.

I rest my case ...

[Robodog]

Sadly there are lots of people like that these days who are actively looking for ways to be 'offended' or who are looking for people to be 'offended by'.

And if they don't find what they are looking for: they try and make it up (as we saw last night with Saira trying to throw 'racist' dirt on James, who is clearly too intelligent and broad-minded to be racist).

There's a phrase for people who do what Saira did last night: they are a grievance looking for a cause.

[Clootie Dumpling]

Sadly there are lots of people like that these days who are actively looking for ways to be 'offended' or who are looking for people to be 'offended by'.

And if they don't find what they are looking for: they try and make it up (as we saw last night with Saira trying to throw 'racist' dirt on James, who is clearly too intelligent and broad-minded to be racist).

There's a phrase for people who do what Saira did last night: they are a grievance looking for a cause.

I know what you mean, Robodog, and would be among the first to condemn that behaviour if I believed that's what Saira was doing, but she wasn't.

And, if you believe that James Whale is broadminded, you need to do a bit more research.

[Crimson Dynamo]

just awful so far

[chuff me dizzy]

She comes across like she feels she's superior than others and also very snobbish diva..

100% Superior ,I liked her night one,but saw a different side to her last night,how DARE she question James on HIS beliefs ? and she can pack it in ramming her "cause" down my neck, another Michelle Visage :bored: ....All a load of utter BS ,she's not in there for any cause ,she's in there for herself as they all are ,she just chasing the Pakistani vote as Visage chased the gay vote
Fake as ...... and she needs to keep her opinions to herself

[Robodog]

I know what you mean, Robodog, and would be among the first to condemn that behaviour if I believed that's what Saira was doing, but she wasn't.

And, if you believe that James Whale is broadminded, you need to do a bit more research.

Thanks for the 'lack of research' assumption/accusation. I've listened to James for years and while i often didn't agree with him (or even like him) i know that he's broad-minded enough not to be racist !

As for what Saira was doing last night, she showed remarkable double-standards. She found it 'offensive' that James jokingly said 'Saira thinks i'm a racist' but she didn't find it offensive to seriously suggest that James was a racist!

"If you are racist James, i can just stay out of your way that's fine" etc Terrible, low-blow attempt at mud-slinging. Good to see James shrug it off, stay positive and even befriend Saira despite it. Hopefully her prejudiced mind-set will be softened in time.

[chuff me dizzy]

yea, it looks as she is looking for racist person in the house and then confront it, and become a righteous and sanctimonious one.

:clap1:

[Pete.]

Not people writing off Saira night one

[Northern Monkey]

Seems like the type who will try and fund racism or sexism or some kind of offence in everything anyone says.

[smudgie]

She is coming across as awful.
Trying to come across as this great journalist, looking for stories of interest, faking horror at the mention of a vibrator etc.
She is a woman of the world for heavens sake, nothing would/should surprise her so she just makes herself look fake.
Her stupid attack on James Whale was pathetic, you can't start a conversation up with calling someone a racist the first time you meet just because you have seen them tagged on the internet, at least get to know them and find out for yourself.
She has made a few enemies in that house within 24 hours, don't really fancy her chances of ducking the moms after this week.

[Clootie Dumpling]

Thanks for the 'lack of research' assumption/accusation. I've listened to James for years and while i often didn't agree with him (or even like him) i know that he's broad-minded enough not to be racist !

As for what Saira was doing last night, she showed remarkable double-standards. She found it 'offensive' that James jokingly said 'Saira thinks i'm a racist' but she didn't find it offensive to seriously suggest that James was a racist!

"If you are racist James, i can just stay out of your way that's fine" etc Terrible, low-blow attempt at mud-slinging. Good to see James shrug it off, stay positive and even befriend Saira despite it. Hopefully her prejudiced mind-set will be softened in time.

I've met him and he's a bigoted twat!

[Vicky.]

Looks like she constantly has a dead rotting fish hung under her nose

Not liking tbh

[hijaxers]

I agree, Ammi. She seems very straightforward and open to me in her conversations, rather than approaching them with an agenda.

I think she's very interested in discussing different opinions and her objectivity can be misinterpreted by people who are used to reacting emotionally to things.

Nah she's a loud mouthed gobby , pushy nause, never liked her.

[Robodog]

I've met him and he's a bigoted twat!

I've never met him (or you) so i couldn't comment on your personal experience.

I've never felt that way about him myself, but this is BB - who knows what will happen or which way things will turn!

So far, Saira seems like the most bigoted one in the house, by that i mean she seems very quick to pigeon-hole people and judge them for it from her own self-superior standpoint. We saw elements of that last night in the way she was with James, Marnie and Chloe.

[Shaun]

Heaven forbid someone isn't a fan of talking about how they use vibrators two hours after meeting someone...

[Tom4784]

100% Superior ,I liked her night one,but saw a different side to her last night,how DARE she question James on HIS beliefs ? and she can pack it in ramming her "cause" down my neck, another Michelle Visage :bored: ....All a load of utter BS ,she's not in there for any cause ,she's in there for herself as they all are ,she just chasing the Pakistani vote as Visage chased the gay vote
Fake as ...... and she needs to keep her opinions to herself

Why is she not allowed to question his beliefs? It's within her rights to discuss other people's opinions.

As for your second point, that's just plain ridiculous. If she was going to chase votes why would she target such a specific audience and not a broad one like women or the gays who make up a large part of the voting audience? You've only made that statement because of the colour of her skin.

[chuff me dizzy]

Why is she not allowed to question his beliefs? It's within her rights to discuss other people's opinions.

As for your second point, that's just plain ridiculous. If she was going to chase votes why would she target such a specific audience and not a broad one like women or the gays who make up a large part of the voting audience? You've only made that statement because of the colour of her skin.

SHES using the colour of her skin not me,and she's no right whatsoever to question him ,if I were him I would tell her to mind her own bloody business

[Tom4784]

SHES using the colour of her skin not me

How? I haven't seen her bring it up once in the house.

[chuff me dizzy]

How? I haven't seen her bring it up once in the house.

Oh dear, here we go .... you keep to your beliefs and I will keep to mine

[Tom4784]

Oh dear, here we go .... you keep to your beliefs and I will keep to mine

No, you've made a statement and I'm asking you to provide examples, you claim she's using her race to get votes so give me an example.

Don't make claims if you can't back them up, especially racially motivated ones.

[Vicky.]

How? I haven't seen her bring it up once in the house.

I'm sure she said she was in there for awareness of pakistanis, burkhas, FGM and something else on last nights show?

Not that thats wrong or anything, but she does appear to have a slight obsession with race :S

[chuff me dizzy]

I'm sure she said she was in there for awareness of pakistanis, burkhas, FGM and something else on last nights show?

Not that thats wrong or anything, but she does appear to have a slight obsession with race :S

Yes thats what she said ,and I'm sure the poor young girls from Rotherham are more than aware of them

[hot2go]

SHES using the colour of her skin not me,and she's no right whatsoever to question him ,if I were him I would tell her to mind her own bloody business

He should have told her to run back to the other Loose Women who judge people and talk bollox and never allow the option on their you tube clips for anyone to challenge them.
I only found out today that she was on the apprentice....THAT says it all

[Tom4784]

I'm sure she said she was in there for awareness of pakistanis, burkhas, FGM and something else on last nights show?

Not that thats wrong or anything, but she does appear to have a slight obsession with race :S

Hmm, I didn't catch that. Still to say she's courting a vote from a such a small demographic is one hell of a stretch though.

[chuff me dizzy]

No, you've made a statement and I'm asking you to provide examples, you claim she's using her race to get votes so give me an example.

Don't make claims if you can't back them up, especially racially motivated ones.

SHE used race as her reason to be in there

[Tom4784]

SHE used race as her reason to be in there

But that's not the same as using it to court votes because why would she do that when she's a Loose Woman who could just focus on the general female vote which would lead to more votes?

[lovebigbrotheruk]

By the way, I am white. However, some of you need to seriously recognise your privilege and the fact that racism DOES exist, as much as you try to suggest it's a fallacy that people use as a 'card', it's real and it's prevalent in our society.

To me, it seemed as if Saira had researched this man and had uncovered that he had said some controversial things in the past that some considered racist. So she asked him straight up, 'are you a racist?'. Good for her. She didn't treat him bad. In fact, she said if he were a racist, that it would be fine and they could avoid each other. That doesn't sound like someone looking to be offended. That sounds like someone who is in there for a good time and doesn't want to cause any racial tension. She didn't accuse him of being racist, she asked him based on his reputation.

I think they will turn out to be very good friends in the house anyway.

[chuff me dizzy]

By the way, I am white. However, some of you need to seriously recognise your privilege and the fact that racism DOES exist, as much as you try to suggest it's a fallacy that people use as a 'card', it's real and it's prevalent in our society.

To me, it seemed as if Saira had researched this man and had uncovered that he had said some controversial things in the past that some considered racist. So she asked him straight up, 'are you a racist?'. Good for her. She didn't treat him bad. In fact, she said if he were a racist, that it would be fine and they could avoid each other. That doesn't sound like someone looking to be offended. That sounds like someone who is in there for a good time and doesn't want to cause any racial tension. She didn't accuse him of being racist, she asked him based on his reputation.

I think they will turn out to be very good friends in the house anyway.

Racism works both way ...and yes I have liked a black hm8, I liked Adam, so thats kicked you're pathetic theory to touch ,but good try

[Vanessa]

I can't stand her. She has no sense of humour whatsoever. She seems to get offended by everything :joker:

[caprimint]

Heaven forbid someone isn't a fan of talking about how they use vibrators two hours after meeting someone...
I don't think that's the issue. I wouldn't be okay with it either. I think the real issue is the way that she handles these situations. I also wouldn't be okay with an older woman telling me they are going to 'put me in my place' because of the things I choose to say. It's a free country, she needs to let go a bit.

[chuff me dizzy]

I can't stand her. She has no sense of humour whatsoever. She seems to get offended by everything :joker:

And she's not even started yet !! she will be out first time she's up,and good riddance, arrogant cow !!

[Nicky91]

And she's not even started yet !! she will be out first time she's up,and good riddance, arrogant cow !!

:clap1: :clap1: :clap1:

well said

[Vanessa]

And she's not even started yet !! she will be out first time she's up,and good riddance, arrogant cow !!

I do like James a lot. Hope he does well.

[rusticgal]

She comes across like she feels she's superior than others and also very snobbish diva..


I also think she came across a bit sexist last night with a bit of sneering going on and cutting remarks towards males..
Don't think she's a snob but she can be a little bit condescending when she sneers at people's comments.
I think she will be a good housemate but the more she settles in the worse she will get.

At the moment I'm tolerating her but don't think I'm going to like her.

[Patricia4]

I don't like her and she was trying her best to draw James but he played it well I'm sure she will go for him again but he will be ready.

[Gusto Brunt]

I have been thinking it's that woman off The One Show.

Tis not.

[chuff me dizzy]

I don't like her and she was trying her best to draw James but he played it well I'm sure she will go for him again but he will be ready.

She wont get the better of James,he will soon put her in her place

[Gusto Brunt]

She wont get the better of James,he will soon put her in her place

Yeah James sure shut up the gangster woman.

[chuff me dizzy]

Yeah James sure shut up the gangster woman.

Hes a straight talker and they are my fav hm8s ..... 25/1 in Wiliam Hills so I think this is the right time to have a couple of £ on him

[caprimint]

Hes a straight talker and they are my fav hm8s ..... 25/1 in Wiliam Hills so I think this is the right time to have a couple of £ on him
Potentially another Jim Davidson situation we could have on the cards.

[Gusto Brunt]

Hes a straight talker and they are my fav hm8s ..... 25/1 in Wiliam Hills so I think this is the right time to have a couple of £ on him

Yeah most people would have been diplomatic and said, 'well you could look at it that way.'

Whaley just told her right off. 'You're wrong'.

[chuff me dizzy]

Yeah most people would have been diplomatic and said, 'well you could look at it that way.'

Whaley just told her right off. 'You're wrong'.

Good on him i say !! :clap1:

[chuff me dizzy]

Potentially another Jim Davidson situation we could have on the cards.

NOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!! He's nothing like that slimy gett

[caprimint]

NOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!! He's nothing like that slimy gett
Haha, I do agree, I wasn't a fan of Jim at all. I was meaning more the situation than them as people.

[Pete.]

A diva is a female version of a hustler :love:

[rusticgal]

I have a feeling Saira will seek to highlight any little controversial comment and patronise and put down...

[empire]

I have noticed quite a few south asian females who I wish saira proved me wrong but she hasn't, that many seem to have a napoleon superiority complex personality and im not generalising about it because I have spoken to some south asian lads about it and they say im correct but I wish I was not correct, I don't understand saira's hostile insecurity towards males, and then she treats people who are pale skinned with contempt, thank god nigel farage is not in this years one, she would keep on putting a pin into the doll just like linda nolan did with jim davidson.

[chuff me dizzy]

I have noticed quite a few south asian females who I wish saira proved me wrong but she hasn't, that many seem to have a napoleon superiority complex personality and im not generalising about it because I have spoken to some south asian lads about it and they say im correct but I wish I was not correct, I don't understand saira's hostile insecurity towards males, and then she treats people who are pale skinned with contempt, thank god nigel farage is not in this years one, she would keep on putting a pin into the doll just like linda nolan did with jim davidson.

Davison deserved it ,Nigel doesn't :joker:

[Littlegreen]

I loved that she questioned the girls and how overtly sexual they are, Marnie was so disrespectful.

Other than that she seems ready to question people and why they are in the house,nowt wrong with that.

[Jason.]

I love her

[rusticgal]

Why is she not allowed to question his beliefs? It's within her rights to discuss other people's opinions.
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Just like it is ours...:conf:

[rusticgal]

I loved that she questioned the girls and how overtly sexual they are, Marnie was so disrespectful.
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Saira will question anything and anyone...perhaps she shouldn't question them then? Otherwise you might hear something you don't want to hear. Saira isn't a prude or innocent...she knows what she is doing..this is a woman who publicly declared on national television that she and her husband didn't have sex anymore...and she told her husband he had her permission to have sex with another woman to satisfy his needs....
At any stage did she ever consider that by publicly declaring that...and it went viral...how that might embarrass her husband?...:shrug:

[Ross.]

1 night of highlights and already people jumping on the bandwagon, giving her OTT hate because she dared to ask about someone's beliefs

[lovebigbrotheruk]

1 night of highlights and already people jumping on the bandwagon, giving her OTT hate because she dared to ask about someone's beliefs

Lol, whenever you see someone ethnic entering the BB house, you know instantly they will come out to boos and hate. It happens nearly every single time. The only way it won't happen is if you're Shilpa Shetty, who literally had to be treated like crap before she got people on her side, and she STILL came out to some vitriol and boos. Haha. It's quite amazing if you think about it.

[Tom4784]

Just like it is ours...:conf:

Where did I say otherwise? It's a two way street and I've maintained that since forever so I'm not sure what the point of your post is except from desperately trying to score points against me.

[Headie]

she just chasing the Pakistani vote

Oh yeah that Pakistani vote is so strong, just look at how well Beinazir and Hira did!

[Ammi]

I'm sure she said she was in there for awareness of pakistanis, burkhas, FGM and something else on last nights show?

Not that thats wrong or anything, but she does appear to have a slight obsession with race :S

....hmmm yeah she did say all of that Vicky but then, it's an 'obsession' that seems to be so much echoed in the media atm and for a little while now and a very slanted media obsession, so it would be something that she would feel strongly about and also very 'topical' and relevant...they all have agendas for their decisions to go into the house and if her agenda is of more a serious reason that isn't 'all about self', then that seems fine to me ...she's coming across as a little over-eager atm I think but I think it's a good thing to feel that she wants to relate information and 'expel media myths' about the Muslim community...

[mr rochester]

I am surprised Marnie had the courage not to be able to say Saira's name and reverted to Sarah because she could remember that. As I recall Jade Goody started an international incident by not being able to remember Shilpa's name. Saira's seemed OK about it and said Marnie could call her Sarah.

I don't think Saira will be very popular but I do think she might be a bit overwhelmed by some of the women in there so she might be trying to gain the ascendancy because she might be a bit frightened. I wasn't too keen on how she glossed over her children being used to her being away...by saying they were going on holiday etc.

[Garfie]

....hmmm yeah she did say all of that Vicky but then, it's an 'obsession' that seems to be so much echoed in the media atm and for a little while now and a very slanted media obsession, so it would be something that she would feel strongly about and also very 'topical' and relevant...they all have agendas for their decisions to go into the house and if her agenda is of more a serious reason that isn't 'all about self', then that seems fine to me ...she's coming across as a little over-eager atm I think but I think it's a good thing to feel that she wants to relate information and 'expel media myths' about the Muslim community...

I agree with what you say here, Ammi, and the issues are important. However, I think she is approaching this all wrong, and could so easily do more damage than good if she is not more careful.

[Marsh.]

I wouldn't use "snobbish" to describe her.

She can seem very judgemental sometimes in the way she phrases things but she's not a snob, just very opinionated and a bit of a motormouth.

[Beso]

Lol, whenever you see someone ethnic entering the BB house, you know instantly they will come out to boos and hate. It happens nearly every single time. The only way it won't happen is if you're Shilpa Shetty, who literally had to be treated like crap before she got people on her side, and she STILL came out to some vitriol and boos. Haha. It's quite amazing if you think about it.

What is amazing is white people get boos as well.

Oh, and ethnics have actually gone on to win bb.