A new bully group forming?

[Denver]

Bear, Marnie, Lewis and Heavy D all acted disgustingly tonight and i feel they are going to becom one of this groups that like to bully and humiliate others

[Pete.]

Yes :bored:

Saira, Biggins, James, Sam, Ricky clique >

[Time]

Marnie definitely seems like the type to be part of it

[Vanessa]

It was Bear who went too far.

[Rob4]

Marnie is just a sheep, Bear is the twat that suggested it.

[Lostie!]

It was Bear who went too far.

Everyone in that little group who were part of the nastiness at the end did.

[Vanessa]

Marnie is just a sheep, Bear is the twat that suggested it.

Yes. The dare was just to talk to her, which i taught was harmless. But Bear just had to go too far :bored:

[Maxxie.]

I respect Heavy D for aplogizing, I don't think he'd be a major part of the bully group but if you didn't see the live feed from I think Friday, Chloe was being pretty pitchy about her too with Bear and Marnie of course in the pool with her.

[Headie]

It's a vile clique and they need to be kicked out

[lewis111]

Yes :bored:

Saira, Biggins, James, Sam, Ricky clique >

Sam is part of the young team :/

[Vanessa]

Everyone in that little group who were part of the nastiness at the end did.

No, i disagree. It was bear idea to go too far.

[Ross.]

Sam is part of the young team :/

She moved groups at the end

[reece(:]

Get the awful clique out!

[lewis111]

Is this series goes the way I think it'll go: James and Gramt will be out soon and Saira will comes like 8th when up in an eviction against Bear and Biggins or somethin

[lewis111]

I think Frankie and Aubtey will just follow Renee and join team Bear

[Lostie!]

No, i disagree. It was bear idea to go too far.

Not sure how you can disagree with the facts that the rest of them encouraged it and sat there laughing (and Marnie actually DID it) but okay.

[Vanessa]

I respect Heavy D for aplogizing, I don't think he'd be a major part of the bully group but if you didn't see the live feed from I think Friday, Chloe was being pretty pitchy about her too with Bear and Marnie of course in the pool with her.

Lewis and Saira have already talked and sorted things out. But of course some people like to call everyone a bully. :bored:

[Ross.]

No, i disagree. It was bear idea to go too far.

None of them stopped it though and said it was too far? They all encouraged it

[lewis111]

She moved groups at the end

Mess she's the next Sara

[EspeonBB]

No, i disagree. It was bear idea to go too far.

But Marnie went along with it and everyone else (apart from Sam) encouraged her?

She could've easily said no

[lewis111]

I hope Bear goes OtT and gets removed ( I don't want to see Saira be bullied but he needs to go and the public will love him)

[lovebigbrotheruk]

The bullying is uncomfortable to watch at this point.

[Denver]

Sam is part of the young team :/

Did you not see her tell them not to do it?

[Vanessa]

But Marnie went along with it and everyone else (apart from Sam) encouraged her?

She could've easily said no

no question she was wrong. it was a stupid thing to do. Maybe she really can't handle her drink? :laugh:

[mr rochester]

I respect Heavy D for aplogizing, I don't think he'd be a major part of the bully group

Wasn't too keen on him up until this but I thought he was very conciliatory and extremely kind when he apologised. He went up in my estimation at that point.

[Maxxie.]

Lewis and Saira have already talked and sorted things out. But of course some people like to call everyone a bully. :bored:

I didn't even mention Lewis's name :joker: he's not a bully, was he even there with the Marnie tits thing?

[fitz2k2]

Bear, Marnie, Lewis and Heavy D all acted disgustingly tonight and i feel they are going to becom one of this groups that like to bully and humiliate others

I guess you didn't watch the entire show.stop using the word bully.

[Vanessa]

I didn't even mention Lewis's name :joker: he's not a bully, was he even there with the Marnie tits thing?

It annoys me when people call the younger ones bulllies. It was Bear and Marnie who went too far. Heavy D and Lewis have both apologised to Saira , because they realised she was upset.

[Lostie!]

It annoys me when people call the younger ones bulllies. It was Bear and Marnie who went too far. Heavy D and Lewis have both apologised to Saira , because they realised she was upset.

And then later found it funny to further mock her when she's minding her own business, which kind of invalidates any apology.

[Vanessa]

And then later found it funny to further mock her when she's minding her own business, which kind of invalidates any apology.

No, they haven't shown it yet.

[delta]

She played the victim the initial situation developed from a discussion with 4 adults discussing Saira's behaviour and that's what it was a bloody discussion, just because it didn't go her way or 3 of the participants didn't agree with her, doesn't constitute it as bullying.

What were the other 2 people supposed to do get up and walk away so that she couldn't play the victim card? As the Mafia woman said, she got into a conversation that didn't go her way and she didn't like what she was hearing.

All Lewis said was that if 3 or 4 people have come up with the same answer then perhaps it's time to start listening and to make adjustments

Boom, was advising her that it's the lack of subtlety in her voice and was saying it's the way you say things.

Bear then changed the subject and regurgitated a conversation they had in the bathroom where he said that he felt that she was trying to trip him up in conversations, she claimed he had taken it out of context ( he hadn't ) she then went on to explain, after saying she was just trying to get to know him, that she was asking him if had hit someone in order to be prepared, if he had said yes, so that she could avoid him if there was any confrontation.

Lewis, after she started to turn the water works on and play the victim, repeatedly said, let her have her own say, but she repeatedly turned on all 3 of them effectively calling them all out as bullying her.


At the end of the program, that was uncalled for but she's made a lot of enemies with her immature, poor me behaviour, I don't find her intelligent, just rude, passive aggressive and like a duck out of water. She doesn't know how to interact around people.

[Vicky.]

I don't think they are bullies tbh

I was completely on that heavy D guys side when he brought up her patronizing sneery comments.

Still haven't seen the Marnie tits in face thing mind if this is what this is about. But I have seen no bullying so far

[EspeonBB]

They're not bullies imo but I still want them all gone

[Vanessa]

I think the only one with malicious intent was Bear, because he hates Saira. Marnie was drunk and probably won't even remember doing it.

[Northern Monkey]

Marnie was pissed off cos she'd gone in the bedroom and tried to make up and that Saira bitch had another go at her.Can't blame Marnie tbh

[Vanessa]

Marnie was pissed off cos she'd gone in the bedroom and tried to make up and that Saira bitch had another go at her.Can't blame Marnie tbh

Ironically Saira was right. Marnie is a mess when she's had a drink :joker:

[Northern Monkey]

I don't think they are bullies tbh

I was completely on that heavy D guys side when he brought up her patronizing sneery comments.

Still haven't seen the Marnie tits in face thing mind if this is what this is about. But I have seen no bullying so far

Nobody has been bullied.That is the most overused term on this forum.That Saira has been a bitch to them all day.

[Lostie!]

No, they haven't shown it yet.

Haven't shown what? What I said literally happened.

[Vanessa]

Nobody has been bullied.That is the most overused term on this forum.That Saira has been a bitch to them all day.

This!

[Vanessa]

Haven't shown what? What I said literally happened.

The Lewis and Saira chat. They haven't shown that.

[Heaven = Winner]

From what I gather, it could turn into this situation where Bear and his alliance will try and take the piss out of Saira for their own entertainment. It already started today with that dare.

[Vanessa]

From what I gather, it could turn into this situation where Bear and his alliance will try and take the piss out of Saira for their own entertainment. It already started today with that dare.

i don't think so.

[Lostie!]

The Lewis and Saira chat. They haven't shown that.

Oh I thought you meant he apologised before the incident at the end (as is the case with Heavy D which is why his olive branch means nothing now in my eyes).

[Headie]

It annoys me when people call the younger ones bulllies.

Hang on didn't you complain that Gary Busey was being bullied by Steph, George etc? :conf:

[Heaven = Winner]

i don't think so.

I think so.

[Vanessa]

I think so.

I do think that Bear and Saira are going to butt heads again for sure. It's not the end of it.

[smudgie]

Saira is a silly patronising woman.
Marnie is a just a young girl with half a brain.
Bear is a nasty piece of work.
Heavy D seems a nice enough fella so far.

[Heaven = Winner]

I do think that Bear and Saira are going to butt heads again for sure. It's not the end of it.

For sure! They get on like cheese and chalk :laugh:

[Vanessa]

For sure! They get on like cheese and chalk :laugh:

I think the others don't have that big a problem with Saira. But these two : polar opposites.

[jennyfromtheblock8]

The simple answer for me is all parties are in the wrong. Saira can't see how passive aggressive she is and the others responded like angry children.

[Mystic Mock]

I understand Bear and Marnie, but Heavy D didn't do anything that badly to her, and even apologised to her afterwards, and Lewis did one nasty thing to her tonight when he set Marnie's boobs on her, but other than that he didn't really do anything like Bear or Marnie did to her.

[Vanessa]

I understand Bear and Marnie, but Heavy D didn't do anything that badly to her, and even apologised to her afterwards, and Lewis did one nasty thing to her tonight when he set Marnie's boobs on her, but other than that he didn't really do anything like Bear or Marnie did to her.

No, it was Bear who said to show her tits to Saira, not Lewis. Lewis only said to go and apologise to her.

[Mystic Mock]

No, it was Bear who said to show her tits to Saira, not Lewis. Lewis only said to go and apologise to her.

I thought Bear and Lewis dared Marnie to do the boobs thing, fair enough if I'm wrong on the Lewis front.

[Vanessa]

I thought Bear and Lewis dared Marnie to do the boobs thing, fair enough if I'm wrong on the Lewis front.

No, Lewis told Marnie to apologise to Saira. Then Bear said to show her her tits. Bear took it to far, i didn't like that.

[EspeonBB]

I thought Bear and Lewis dared Marnie to do the boobs thing, fair enough if I'm wrong on the Lewis front.

Yeah I feel like Marnie was egged on by all of group, not just Bear (although he was definitely the ringleader)

[Vanessa]

Yeah I feel like Marnie was egged on by all of group, not just Bear (although he was definitely the ringleader)

Lewis did not tell her to show her tits, that was Bear.

[Mitchell]

Sam is part of the young team :/
She was the only one to disagree with them and she told them how pathetic they were

[Mullens123]

Send Jayne back in to annihilate them please

[rusticgal]

She played the victim the initial situation developed from a discussion with 4 adults discussing Saira's behaviour and that's what it was a bloody discussion, just because it didn't go her way or 3 of the participants didn't agree with her, doesn't constitute it as bullying.

What were the other 2 people supposed to do get up and walk away so that she couldn't play the victim card? As the Mafia woman said, she got into a conversation that didn't go her way and she didn't like what she was hearing.

All Lewis said was that if 3 or 4 people have come up with the same answer then perhaps it's time to start listening and to make adjustments

Boom, was advising her that it's the lack of subtlety in her voice and was saying it's the way you say things.

Bear then changed the subject and regurgitated a conversation they had in the bathroom where he said that he felt that she was trying to trip him up in conversations, she claimed he had taken it out of context ( he hadn't ) she then went on to explain, after saying she was just trying to get to know him, that she was asking him if had hit someone in order to be prepared, if he had said yes, so that she could avoid him if there was any confrontation.

Lewis, after she started to turn the water works on and play the victim, repeatedly said, let her have her own say, but she repeatedly turned on all 3 of them effectively calling them all out as bullying her.


At the end of the program, that was uncalled for but she's made a lot of enemies with her immature, poor me behaviour, I don't find her intelligent, just rude, passive aggressive and like a duck out of water. She doesn't know how to interact around people.

I can see me probably agreeing with what you say but not having watched tonight's episode I can't comment too much. I watched the clip. Saira was a motormouth in the Apprentice...she did everything her way and pretty much bullied the other contestants with her put downs and anything but her way was the right way.
She is extremely patronising and so far from what I have seen tries to get the 'worst' out of people by tying to label them be it 'racist' 'aggressive' bullying'.
Now if 4 people are pulling her up for being patronising it's a shame she couldn't just accept those opinions and maybe say "well I don't mean to be and if I do come across that way then I'm sorry". Now maybe she did say words to that effect, as I said I haven't watched the whole episode...but it would have diffused the situation.
I don't like Bear and it sounds like he was pretty vile tonight but if 4 people are trying to say the same thing and have the same opinion then that doesn't make it bullying. IMO they had a point but if they got nasty with it then they deserve what's coming their way.
What happened later from what I have read...well that's out of order and I'm glad James told them so.
Saira needs to take the critisism on board...but if she decides to take the line of being "the victim" I will dislike her even more.

[Yaki da]

Bear, Marnie, Lewis and Heavy D all acted disgustingly tonight and i feel they are going to becom one of this groups that like to bully and humiliate others

There was me watching Lewis make sure Saira could have her say.

When you people who have a pathological need to turn a housemate into a "victim" so you can congratulate yourselves for heroically coming to their defence on twitter and internet forums, must the truth be buried always?

I don't mind Lewis, Heavy D seems like a harmless dummy rather than nasty. Marine and Bear I have no time for. But the truth is that Saira is one of the most patronising, condescending, sneering women I've ever seen on this show. But you carry on all you, making out that people who are fed up with her sneering at them and are speaking out against it, are in fact vicious bullies. Live in that self righteous bubble and spin your bull**** narrative. Some of us will not though.

[hot2go]

The person who went too far was Marnie....she was the one who got her tits out.....totally disrespectful...I didn't hear Bear tell her to get her tits out, I thought he suggested she ask the question not to expose herself ....but either way, it Marnie who actually did that and went too far.

[Yaki da]

She played the victim the initial situation developed from a discussion with 4 adults discussing Saira's behaviour and that's what it was a bloody discussion, just because it didn't go her way or 3 of the participants didn't agree with her, doesn't constitute it as bullying.

What were the other 2 people supposed to do get up and walk away so that she couldn't play the victim card? As the Mafia woman said, she got into a conversation that didn't go her way and she didn't like what she was hearing.

All Lewis said was that if 3 or 4 people have come up with the same answer then perhaps it's time to start listening and to make adjustments

Boom, was advising her that it's the lack of subtlety in her voice and was saying it's the way you say things.

Bear then changed the subject and regurgitated a conversation they had in the bathroom where he said that he felt that she was trying to trip him up in conversations, she claimed he had taken it out of context ( he hadn't ) she then went on to explain, after saying she was just trying to get to know him, that she was asking him if had hit someone in order to be prepared, if he had said yes, so that she could avoid him if there was any confrontation.

Lewis, after she started to turn the water works on and play the victim, repeatedly said, let her have her own say, but she repeatedly turned on all 3 of them effectively calling them all out as bullying her.


At the end of the program, that was uncalled for but she's made a lot of enemies with her immature, poor me behaviour, I don't find her intelligent, just rude, passive aggressive and like a duck out of water. She doesn't know how to interact around people.

I agree with everything you've said here. Heavy D didn't do anything wrong. lewis was very fair. Bear, despite being a pillock, did actually have a point. And Marnie was out of order.

But Saira is clearly a very patronising, antagonistic and possibly quite manipulative person.

[hot2go]

I agree with everything you've said here. Heavy D didn't do anything wrong. lewis was very fair. Bear, despite being a pillock, did actually have a point. And Marnie was out of order.

But Saira is clearly a very patronising, antagonistic and possibly quite manipulative person.

I agree...she knew Heavy D wasn't being a twat to her.....he's a gentle giant and he was only being friendly....what he was doing was no different to what she does all the time, only difference was he wasn't trying to be bigger or better than her, he was only telling her how she comes across...an intelligent person would have listened to what he said and taken it on board.

[Ross.]

Lewis did not tell her to show her tits, that was Bear.

Doesn't matter who told her to do it, they all still encouraged her to go through with it (apart from Sam).

[azi]

I'm not here for this. Bullying is not entertaining.

[camertone]

Bear, Marnie, Lewis and Heavy D all acted disgustingly tonight and i feel they are going to becom one of this groups that like to bully and humiliate others

the young ostracize the old..

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Marnie is just a sheep, Bear is the twat that suggested it.

This, I think this is the way going to continue sadly

[Mystic Mock]

I can see me probably agreeing with what you say but not having watched tonight's episode I can't comment too much. I watched the clip. Saira was a motormouth in the Apprentice...she did everything her way and pretty much bullied the other contestants with her put downs and anything but her way was the right way.
She is extremely patronising and so far from what I have seen tries to get the 'worst' out of people by tying to label them be it 'racist' 'aggressive' bullying'.
Now if 4 people are pulling her up for being patronising it's a shame she couldn't just accept those opinions and maybe say "well I don't mean to be and if I do come across that way then I'm sorry". Now maybe she did say words to that effect, as I said I haven't watched the whole episode...but it would have diffused the situation.
I don't like Bear and it sounds like he was pretty vile tonight but if 4 people are trying to say the same thing and have the same opinion then that doesn't make it bullying. IMO they had a point but if they got nasty with it then they deserve what's coming their way.
What happened later from what I have read...well that's out of order and I'm glad James told them so.
Saira needs to take the critisism on board...but if she decides to take the line of being "the victim" I will dislike her even more.

BIB about her playing the victim is my least favourite trait about Saira and why she's not my favourite.

She tried the tactic initially on James on Launch Night and when he didn't bite and has now become her friend, she's now using the four way group (which of course four people on one person is gonna look awful on national TV) to now make herself look a victim to the public and it's worked.

Don't get me wrong I actually find Saira funny which is a rarity for the victim chasing Housemates, but she'll never be someone I support as I don't support the Jale Housemates who deliberately try to ostracise themselves from Launch Night.

[Mystic Mock]

I'm not here for this. Bullying is not entertaining.

They haven't bullied her yet though.

Bullying is repeated offenses on one or more individuals, they've done one thing to her, and when we say they it was mainly Marnie.:joker:

[sampvt]

Get the awful clique out!

Yes get them out then we have fook all to watch. Great idea. Storylines and conflict comes from idiots not bores.

[Semtex]

What they did to Saira was out of order. Horrible bastards.

But on the other hand Saira has achieved what she set out to be, the victim.

Well played.

[Mystic Mock]

What they did to Saira was out of order. Horrible bastards.

But on the other hand Saira has achieved what she set out to be, the victim.

Well played.

And what's funny is that some of the ones that saw through Jason don't conveniently see through Saira.:hehe:

And even better is the ones that didn't see through Jason can conveniently see through Saira.:laugh:

And people on here say that there's no bias towards certain Housemates that fit certain demographics.:joker:

[susie q]

Saira is a silly patronising woman.
Marnie is a just a young girl with half a brain.
Bear is a nasty piece of work.
Heavy D seems a nice enough fella so far.

Marnie is a 24year old woman, not that young, even with only half a brain.

[Semtex]

And what's funny is that some of the ones that saw through Jason don't conveniently see through Saira.:hehe:

And even better is the ones that didn't see through Jason can conveniently see through Saira.:laugh:

And people on here say that there's no bias towards certain Housemates that fit certain demographics.:joker:

You have lost me....

What does Jason have to do with this discussion?

[chuff me dizzy]

I can see me probably agreeing with what you say but not having watched tonight's episode I can't comment too much. I watched the clip. Saira was a motormouth in the Apprentice...she did everything her way and pretty much bullied the other contestants with her put downs and anything but her way was the right way.
She is extremely patronising and so far from what I have seen tries to get the 'worst' out of people by tying to label them be it 'racist' 'aggressive' bullying'.
Now if 4 people are pulling her up for being patronising it's a shame she couldn't just accept those opinions and maybe say "well I don't mean to be and if I do come across that way then I'm sorry". Now maybe she did say words to that effect, as I said I haven't watched the whole episode...but it would have diffused the situation.
I don't like Bear and it sounds like he was pretty vile tonight but if 4 people are trying to say the same thing and have the same opinion then that doesn't make it bullying. IMO they had a point but if they got nasty with it then they deserve what's coming their way.
What happened later from what I have read...well that's out of order and I'm glad James told them so.
Saira needs to take the critisism on board...but if she decides to take the line of being "the victim" I will dislike her even more.

Saira is using the poor bullied me card ,and like you say theres not only Marnie who doesn't like her, its 4 of them ,so she should think "Well maybe it IS me ?" but she's far too arrogant to do that

[Tarryn]

I do think Saira is very patronizing & talks down to they younger group BUT there was no need for what they did last night. The younger group came across a entitled, spoilt, nasty little brats.
Renee is clearly trying to keep IN with the younger crowd. I can see her defending whatever they do.

[chuff me dizzy]

I do think Saira is very patronizing & talks down to they younger group BUT there was no need for what they did last night. The younger group came across a entitled, spoilt, nasty little brats.
Renee is clearly trying to keep IN with the younger crowd. I can see her defending whatever they do.

The snearing faces she pulls at whoever she is talking to would be enough to make me snap at her too

[Tarryn]

The snearing faces she pulls at whoever she is talking to would be enough to make me snap at her too

I totally get that but the likes of Marnie & Bear were just nasty. I'm finding it difficult to like any of the HM's this time.

[Robodog]

Marnie was wrong to flash at Saira like that.
Bear was wrong to goad her and suggest it.

The others just happened to be there and weren't an active part of it.

Saira has been insulting and provoking half the house since she entered, trying to get a rise out of anyone she can, so she has 100% invited a response to it.

Marnie and Bear were doing well all day, holding their own against Saira's spiteful judgement and passive-aggressive techniques. But then they lost their good ground by the boob thing. It's given her exactly what she has been searching for since day one: victim status. Watch her now milk this for all she can get out of it.

[chuff me dizzy]

I totally get that but the likes of Marnie & Bear were just nasty. I'm finding it difficult to like any of the HM's this time.

Im only liking James and Sam at the minute

[Tarryn]

Im only liking James and Sam at the minute

I like James & Ricky but I think James will be out early as the younger group will nom him. I think Sam sits on the fence too much right now. She was mental on the reality show about a bar years ago. I liked that Sam better.

[chuff me dizzy]

I like James & Ricky but I think James will be out early as the younger group will nom him. I think Sam sits on the fence too much right now. She was mental on the reality show about a bar years ago. I liked that Sam better.

By looks of it he's got lots of votes this week, he better not go Ive had a bet on him to win :joker:

[Liam-]

They're all vile, I'm surprised that Lewis is getting mostly away with his part he played in last nights actions, considering he's the one who dared Marnie to go and fake apologise in the first place, he's the one who started the ball rolling, Bear and Marnie are human trash though.

[Mystic Mock]

You have lost me....

What does Jason have to do with this discussion?

I'm on about that certain people can see through one victim chasing, yet couldn't with the other.

[Strictly Jake]

No as much as I dislike heavy d and Lewis I don't see them as bully's so there isn't really a bully group, just a complete twonk bear and his bee-atch marnie who will do anything bear clicks his fingers at for her to do, and believe me she will be making him get them fingers to work real soon! Marnie you have disappointed me!

[bots]

all this rubbish about bullies. Bullies are only effective against someone who can be bullied, and no-one in that environment can be. There are no weak personalities and no-one can be isolated when they have a diary room to go to at any time they wish.

Anyone that gives the impression of being bullied is doing so because they want it to appear that way.

[Lostie!]

all this rubbish about bullies. Bullies are only effective against someone who can be bullied, and no-one in that environment can be. There are no weak personalities and no-one can be isolated when they have a diary room to go to at any time they wish.

Anyone that gives the impression of being bullied is doing so because they want it to appear that way.

Couldn't disagree with all of this more. Anyone can be bullied, to say only weak people can be victims of bullying is just plain wrong. As is suggesting the existence of a Diary Room automatically rules out the possibility of bullying or isolation taking place in there.

[bots]

Couldn't disagree with all of this more. Anyone can be bullied, to say only weak people can be victims of bullying is just plain wrong. As is suggesting the existence of a Diary Room automatically rules out the possibility of bullying or isolation taking place in there.

I'm sorry but a "bully" can huff and puff all they like, but they can only take advantage of someone that can be bullied. To deny that basic fact is to not understand the issue.

[Lostie!]

I'm sorry but a "bully" can huff and puff all they like, but they can only take advantage of someone that can be bullied. To deny that basic fact is to not understand the issue.

I think the one claiming only weak people can be bullied is the one lacking a basic understanding of bullying.

[chuff me dizzy]

all this rubbish about bullies. Bullies are only effective against someone who can be bullied, and no-one in that environment can be. There are no weak personalities and no-one can be isolated when they have a diary room to go to at any time they wish.

Anyone that gives the impression of being bullied is doing so because they want it to appear that way.

:worship:

[Mystic Mock]

Anyone can be bullied, I've got a strong personality and I've been bullied in life.

I just feel really uncomfortable with bullying debates on BB though as anyone being spoken to in a nasty way is automatically being bullied ever since Shilpagate.

The only people that I've seen be bullied on Ch5 BB have been.

Deana by Conor
Lauren by Ashleigh Hughes
Christopher by Helen and Pauline
Chris by Jale and BBOTS
Jack by Chloe
Stephanie by Danniella and Gemma

[Lostie!]

Anyone can be bullied, I've got a strong personality and I've been bullied in life.

I just feel really uncomfortable with bullying debates on BB though as anyone being spoken to in a nasty way is automatically being bullied ever since Shilpagate.

But that's not what is causing a fuss, it's the fact that they decided to make her the butt of a spiteful joke for a dare to take the piss out of her in front of the others when she was on the other side of the garden minding her own business.

[bots]

Anyone can be bullied, I've got a strong personality and I've been bullied in life.

I just feel really uncomfortable with bullying debates on BB though as anyone being spoken to in a nasty way is automatically being bullied ever since Shilpagate.

if you read my entire paragraph, i also added that no-one could be isolated etc. It's a combination of factors that provides a failsafe environment.

[Lostie!]

Of course they bloody can. People have been isolated numerous times over the years on BB, the mere existence of a Diary Room doesn't change that. :umm2:

[Mystic Mock]

But that's not what is causing a fuss, it's the fact that they decided to make her the butt of a spiteful joke for a dare to take the piss out of her in front of the others when she was on the other side of the garden minding her own business.

It's more of a nasty one off incident than actual bullying though.

Admittedly if it kept happening repeatedly and Saira was genuinely struggling to cope with it then I would agree with you that it's bullying.

[bots]

Of course they bloody can. People have been isolated numerous times over the years on BB, the mere existence of a Diary Room doesn't change that. :umm2:

and viewers fall for the victim card every time thinking BB is like the real world :umm2:

[Mystic Mock]

Oh and Perez and Alicia (especially Alicia) was bullied by the Hopkins crew in CBB15.

[Lostie!]

and viewers fall for the victim card every time thinking BB is like the real world :umm2:

"Victim card"

Oh good, I wondered when somebody would pull that weak, cliched retort out. When in doubt, eh.

[Jack_]

The Big Brother house is one of the most isolated places on planet earth, that is its very nature...to suggest otherwise is just bizarre :umm2: of course you can be isolated in there

That said, one incident is not tantamount to bullying. It was uncomfortable to watch and twatty, but unless it continues it's not bullying

[erinp5]

From tonight's show
Lewis talks to Big Brother about Marnie and Saira: “I think Saira is extremely threatened by Marnie, god knows why…the squad has said there will be no pranks with Saira today”


The "squad" who do these people think they are .

[Marcus.]

Marnie nominated ****: "The whole incident with Saira…he/her kinds of snapped at us…I just wanted to break the ice and him/her snapping turned it around into something negative”

[reece(:]

Bye at the squad

[Cherie]

Im only liking James and Sam at the minute


We are in the same page :hee:

[chuff me dizzy]

We are in the same page :hee:

I like it when we agree :joker:

[sampvt]

I like heavy d. Lol nah nah don't worry he will grow on you.

[chuff me dizzy]

I like heavy d. Lol nah nah don't worry he will grow on you.

No Sam Ive got to disagree with you on this one :umm2:

[sampvt]

No Sam Ive got to disagree with you on this one :umm2:

Ok but don't make a habit of it. Lol

[chuff me dizzy]

Ok but don't make a habit of it. Lol

I promise I wont

[Natalie.]

I would say it's bullying if it continues
All four of them were as bad as each other, none innocent

[Visage]

You can wiggle your boobs and invade someone's personal space, that's all fine..



But talk about noms and we'll punish you.

[tanussa]

dont like any of the 'bully' gang & together they are threatening & vile