I'm still confused

[ThriceShy]

A gay man makes some controversial remarks about bisexuals and AIDS and is ejected.

Meanwhile a woman actually spits in someone's food and drink, possibly risking infecting him with various diseases, and yet she stays.

It is inexcusable.

[lovebigbrotheruk]

He's a bigot and he has no excuse. Good riddance.

[Dollface]

I'm actually disgusted Aubrey has been allowed to stay.

[ThriceShy]

He's a bigot and he has no excuse. Good riddance.

He didn't say anything remotely bigoted.

You can't even accuse him of homophobia as he is proudly and openly gay.

[Jordan.]

whether he's gay or not is irrelevant

[Clootie Dumpling]

No-one knows how AIDS started or which particular group (if any) 'was responsible' for bringing it to the West. Biggins was expressing his opinion, which not everyone shares - and that's all ...

[BB247]

I'm well pissed off bloody cant talk about anything controversial in BB or make inappropriate jokes to much pissing politically correctness.

I liked Biggings but I would still be peed if anyone got booted out for this

:fist::fist::fist::fist::fist::fist::fist::fist::f ist::fist::fist::fist::fist::fist::fist::fist:

[sampvt]

He offended the bi sexual community and he's gone. He wasn't even right. AIDS was a by product of sex with green monkeys by the indigenous male of the Gambia.

[ThriceShy]

whether he's gay or not is irrelevant

You really believe that him being ejected, while Aubrey stays, is fair and right?

[lovebigbrotheruk]

He didn't say anything remotely bigoted.

You can't even accuse him of homophobia as he is proudly and openly gay.

Wrong. Stop looking for attention.

[ThriceShy]

He offended the bi sexual community and he's gone. He wasn't even right. AIDS was a by product of sex with green monkeys by the indigenous male of the Gambia.

If he had said that then he would be accused of racism.

[Jordan.]

You really believe that him being ejected, while Aubrey stays, is fair and right?

His ejection was fair, whether Aubrey's punishment was justified has no bearing on that.

[sampvt]

If he had said that then he would be accused of racism.
You can't be accused of anything if it's fact

[Headie]

He didn't say anything remotely bigoted.

You can't even accuse him of homophobia as he is proudly and openly gay.

That's like saying black people cant be racist

Homosexuality and bisexuality are two separate things

[ThriceShy]

You can't be accused of anything if it's fact

You can in there.

[Lstan]

You really believe that him being ejected, while Aubrey stays, is fair and right?

Why just aubrey tho? why not bear too? its nothing to do with her being a woman, its to do with BB being stupid and not consistent in who they should be punishing.

[ThriceShy]

Why just aubrey tho? why not bear too? its nothing to do with her being a woman, its to do with BB being stupid and not consistent in who they should be punishing.

Who's food did bear spit in?

[Lstan]

Who's food did bear spit in?

You were talking about unacceptable behaviour. You think smashing up a mirror and breaking a door isnt unacceptable behaviour?

[ThriceShy]

You were talking about unacceptable behaviour. You think smashing up a mirror and breaking a door isnt unacceptable behaviour?

He threw a cup that happened to hit a mirror.

He hasn't done anything to any housemate.

You can't compare it to what the spitter did.

[Jamie89]

A gay man makes some controversial remarks about bisexuals and AIDS and is ejected.

Meanwhile a woman actually spits in someone's food and drink, possibly risking infecting him with various diseases, and yet she stays.

It is inexcusable.

I think they test housemates, or they have to declare if they have any diseases. I could be wrong but I'm sure I heard that.

He didn't say anything remotely bigoted.

You can't even accuse him of homophobia as he is proudly and openly gay.

He's not homophobic, he's biphobic. Some people seem to be struggling with that concept.

[ThriceShy]

I think they test housemates, or they have to declare if they have any diseases. I could be wrong but I'm sure I heard that.



He's not homophobic, he's biphobic. Some people seem to be struggling with that concept.

He said nothing to suggest he is scared of bisexuals. He simply stated his opinion on them, which he is entitled to.

Are you really excusing the spitting in someone's sandwich and coffee?

[Lstan]

He threw a cup that happened to hit a mirror.

He hasn't done anything to any housemate.

This You can't compare it to what the spitter did.


I'm not, maybe try reading my comment again? Personally I think they should have both been punished for what they did, you are trying to make the excuse that bb is lenient on female housemates, im merely stating they are not they are really inconsistent and turn a blind eye to things which are inexcusable. I am still shocked they allowed her to do that :fist:

[ThriceShy]

I'm not, maybe try reading my comment again? Personally I think they should have both been punished for what they did, you are trying to make the excuse that bb is lenient on female housemates, im merely stating they are not they are really inconsistent and turn a blind eye to things which are inexcusable. I am still shocked they allowed her to do that :fist:

I haven't mentioned gender at all.

[Lstan]

He's not homophobic, he's biphobic. Some people seem to be struggling with that concept.

Quite a few I have noticed!

[Greg!]

People seem to be forgetting he also made anti semetic comments to Katie?

[Lstan]

A gay man makes some controversial remarks about bisexuals and AIDS and is ejected.

Meanwhile a woman actually spits in someone's food and drink, possibly risking infecting him with various diseases, and yet she stays.

It is inexcusable.

I haven't mentioned gender at all.

No you haven't, neither have I. You have mentioned sex, as I did.

[Jamie89]

He said nothing to suggest he is scared of bisexuals. He simply stated his opinion on them, which he is entitled to.

Are you really excusing the spitting in someone's sandwich and coffee?
No I wasn't excusing it at all, you suggested she could have transmitted diseases and I was commenting on that.

Yes he's entitled to his opinion but spreading fear or hatred/dislike about bisexuals is something I'd consider to be biphobic.

[ThriceShy]

No you haven't, neither have I. You have mentioned sex, as I did.

Are you saying he isn't a gay man and she isn't a woman?

Where did I claim that their gender was influencing BB's decision?

[ThriceShy]

No I wasn't excusing it at all, you suggested she could have transmitted diseases and I was commenting on that.

Yes he's entitled to his opinion but spreading fear or hatred/dislike about bisexuals is something I'd consider to be biphobic.

So why was he ejected and Aubrey wasn't?

[Alf]

People seem to be forgetting he also made anti semetic comments to Katie?We haven't seen the evidence to be able to forget.

[Lstan]

Are you saying he isn't a gay man and she isn't a woman?

Where did I claim that their gender was influencing BB's decision?

Why did you feel the need to emphasise their sex/orientation? You could have just said their names.

[johne]

This is the first time any one has been chucked out and none of us, especially me, have a clear idea why. I'm very confused. Was it the whole bi thing? Was it some antisemetic comment that we are unaware of, or was it for spreading the aids conspiracy theory?
What I did note was that when Biggins was sat in the diary room chair being told why he was being chucked out he himself had no idea why either.

[Lstan]

So why was he ejected and Aubrey wasn't?

This is a question a lot of people are asking and coming to the same conclusion, BB are stupid. She should have been kicked out too.

[bots]

This is the first time any one has been chucked out and none of us, especially me, have a clear idea why. I'm very confused. Was it the whole bi thing? Was it some antisemetic comment that we are unaware of, or was it for spreading the aids conspiracy theory?
What I did note was that when Biggins was sat in the diary room chair being told why he was being chucked out he himself had no idea why either.

he made a series of unacceptable comments that he had been previously warned about and apologised for. He also said he would stop with the comments, so the last bi comment was the final straw that got him ejected

[ThriceShy]

Why did you feel the need to emphasise their sex/orientation? You could have just said their names.

There was no need to say their names as you know who it is.

As always you have jumped in and got it wrong. I am not making any point related to gender. I doubt they would have kicked out a man who spat in food either. They certainly didn't kick out Jay for ****ting in a freezer.

You seem to be hung up on gender. Just forget their gender and address my question of why a spitter stays and someone giving an opinion gets ejected.

[Jamie89]

So why was he ejected and Aubrey wasn't?
I guess the producers considered his comments (including the unaired ones) were worse than what she did. I don't know. None of us do because there seems to be a lot they aren't showing us. I was simply making a couple of points to clarify a couple of your comments.

[ThriceShy]

I guess the producers considered his comments (including the unaired ones) were worse than what she did. I don't know. None of us do because there seems to be a lot they aren't showing us. I was simply making a couple of points to clarify a couple of your comments.

Do you have any evidence that they are tested for diseases anyway?

[Alf]

#BringBigginsback

[Greg!]

We haven't seen the evidence to be able to forget.

True, but people are acting that his AIDS comment was the only reason he was kicked out, when it's not

[johne]

This is a question a lot of people are asking and coming to the same conclusion, BB are stupid. She should have been kicked out too.

I suppose BB can never win because your strong opinion is countered by other strong opinions the other way. I like Aubrey, she's one of the few in there, along with James and Renee, who isn't afraid of Bear and is prepared to confront him. I respect her for that. I also don't see how any one can continue hating her for spitting on Bear's sarni when Bear was happy to have her spit in his mouth afterwards.

[Lstan]

There was no need to say their names as you know who it is.

As always you have jumped in and got it wrong. I am not making any point related to gender. I doubt they would have kicked out a man who spat in food either. They certainly didn't kick out Jay for ****ting in a freezer.

You seem to be hung up on gender. Just forget their gender and address my question of why a spitter stays and someone giving an opinion gets ejected.

As always? Lol when? Are you stalking me? If you want me to forget their sex then dont make a big deal of it. Also you seem to not have noticed I already answered that question.

[fitz2k2]

this is the most confused booted housemate ever.wtf has big brother been doing.

[Jamie89]

Do you have any evidence that they are tested for diseases anyway?
No

I think they test housemates, or they have to declare if they have any diseases. I could be wrong but I'm sure I heard that.

[Lstan]

I suppose BB can never win because your strong opinion is countered by other strong opinions the other way. I like Aubrey, she's one of the few in there, along with James and Renee, who isn't afraid of Bear and is prepared to confront him. I respect her for that. I also don't see how any one can continue hating her for spitting on Bear's sarni when Bear was happy to have her spit in his mouth afterwards.

I think its more of being fair and consistent-its not about BB "not winning" its about them sticking to the rules they themselves laid down. I dont really understand how you can justify someone spitting in someones food *ew*. I dont hate her its just what she did was inexcusable.

[ThriceShy]

No

Well I hardly stand corrected then with your totally unsupported assertion.

[Lstan]

this is the most confused booted housemate ever.wtf has big brother been doing.

Confusing the **** out of everyone it appears :fist:

[johne]

he made a series of unacceptable comments that he had been previously warned about and apologised for. He also said he would stop with the comments, so the last bi comment was the final straw that got him ejected

As I understand it, his last comment relating to bisexuals was that bisexuality was responsible for the spread of aids from the gay community to the wider community. Did he mean this as an anti-bi comment or as (in his opinion, mistaken in my opinion) a statement of fact? I guess we'll never know for sure, but his total unawareness as to why he had crossed the line again suggests to me it was the latter, he just thought he was stating a fact.

[Jamie89]

Well I hardly stand corrected then with your totally unsupported assertion.
It was a comment that was directly relevant to the comment you made, and this is a discussion forum... what's your problem :joker:

[Mystic Mock]

You really believe that him being ejected, while Aubrey stays, is fair and right?

Both should've been ejected.

[Mystic Mock]

People seem to be forgetting he also made anti semetic comments to Katie?

That's what I would've ejected him for, even without the constant biphobia.

[ThriceShy]

Both should've been ejected.

Personally I disagree. I don't think people should be ejected for opinions. If you think he should go then why not Renee? She said the CIA planted AIDS in africa to kill off Africans!

[Mystic Mock]

This is the first time any one has been chucked out and none of us, especially me, have a clear idea why. I'm very confused. Was it the whole bi thing? Was it some antisemetic comment that we are unaware of, or was it for spreading the aids conspiracy theory?
What I did note was that when Biggins was sat in the diary room chair being told why he was being chucked out he himself had no idea why either.

On the DS transcript yesterday he goes onto say stuff about the black people in America.

Biggins: "If black people complained less about The Police in the US they'd be shot less."

I haven't quoted their transcript word for word, but the thread is on DS if you're interested in reading it.

[Alf]

Did I hear right that Big Brother said the comments to Katie happened last Monday?

[ThriceShy]

So why was Katie so upset that he left if he offended her so much?

[Clootie Dumpling]

As I understand it, his last comment relating to bisexuals was that bisexuality was responsible for the spread of aids from the gay community to the wider community. Did he mean this as an anti-bi comment or as (in his opinion, mistaken in my opinion) a statement of fact? I guess we'll never know for sure, but his total unawareness as to why he had crossed the line again suggests to me it was the latter, he just thought he was stating a fact.

I think that's what he thought.

[ThriceShy]

On the DS transcript yesterday he goes onto say stuff about the black people in America.

Biggins: "If black people complained less about The Police in the US they'd be shot less."

I haven't quoted their transcript word for word, but the thread is on DS if you're interested in reading it.

Psst........the transcript was 100% fake.

[joeysteele]

A gay man makes some controversial remarks about bisexuals and AIDS and is ejected.

Meanwhile a woman actually spits in someone's food and drink, possibly risking infecting him with various diseases, and yet she stays.

It is inexcusable.

It is unbelievable isn't it.

[MrWong]

Did I hear right that Big Brother said the comments to Katie happened last Monday?

Yep. I guess the comment to Katie is being covered up.

[ThriceShy]

Yep. I guess the comment to Katie is being covered up.

But Katie seemed close to him and expressed her upset at him leaving. So he can't have offended her that much.

Also, if he had said something really bad about the holocaust then why not eject him immediately last monday?

[Mystic Mock]

Personally I disagree. I don't think people should be ejected for opinions. If you think he should go then why not Renee? She said the CIA planted AIDS in africa to kill off Africans!

Renee should've been potentially thrown out for her biphobia too.

Tbh too many of these Housemates should've been ejected, there's not many people to feel comfortable rooting for at this point as half of them should've been either ejected, are unlikable, or are incredibly dull, or they're victim chasers.

[Marsh.]

So why was Katie so upset that he left if he offended her so much?

Because Katie does whatever brings attention to Katie. She was the same pompous self on the X Factor.

[johne]

Yep. I guess the comment to Katie is being covered up.

Yes, perhaps we'll never know what it was, but if it had been in yer face antisemitic, a big no no on TV, I'm sure they would have kicked him out back then so I conclude it probably wasn't.

[ThriceShy]

Renee should've been potentially thrown out for her biphobia too.

Tbh too many of these Housemates should've been ejected, there's not many people to feel comfortable rooting for at this point as half of them should've been either ejected, are unlikable, or are incredibly dull, or they're victim chasers.

Sorry, but could you actually explain why someone should be thrown out of the BB house because they don't like bisexuals?

I don't see the causal link.

[Mystic Mock]

Psst........the transcript was 100% fake.

Even so I think that his still said something that hasn't aired and never will be brought to light as it'd wreck his career.

[ThriceShy]

Even so I think that his still said something that hasn't aired and never will be brought to light as it'd wreck his career.

The only unaired one is the one related to jews that he said to Katie. I reckon that will probably be pretty mild but they know how much people kick off about antisemitism.

[MrWong]

But Katie seemed close to him and expressed her upset at him leaving. So he can't have offended her that much.

Also, if he had said something really bad about the holocaust then why not eject him immediately last monday?

I guess we'll never know as BB have covered it up.

[Mystic Mock]

Sorry, but could you actually explain why someone should be thrown out of the BB house because they don't like bisexuals?

I don't see the causal link.

You're not allowed to be so openly prejudiced on BB.

[ThriceShy]

You're not allowed to be so openly prejudiced on BB.

Yet you can spit.

Funny old world, TV, isn't it.


Do you apply this to life at large? For example, if I went in work on Monday and said I wasn't keen on bisexuals, should I be sacked?

[Munchkins]

Honestly I think it's best his comments had been shown in full and he isn't removed.
Let him keep digging a hole, let the public see how deplorable his actions are
The very nature of the public now questioning his removal, and wondering if it was 'just' completely reduces the impact his removal could have had to him, as it appears to be 'injustice'

BBUS a few years ago, had multiple racists, homophobes etc. None were removed, however by allowing the public to see their comments in full (well those who viewed the live feeds) some were held accountable.. or at least humiliated on a wide stage

[MrWong]

Yet you can spit.

Funny old world, TV, isn't it.


Do you apply this to life at large? For example, if I went in work on Monday and said I wasn't keen on bisexuals, should I be sacked?

Is that what Biggins said?

[ThriceShy]

Is that what Biggins said?

More or less.

In the first incident he said "bisexuals are the worst kind. They are gay people who don't want to come fully out." or words to that effect.

[johne]

Honestly I think it's best his comments had been shown in full and he isn't removed.
Let him keep digging a hole, let the public see how deplorable his actions are
The very nature of the public now questioning his removal, and wondering if it was 'just' completely reduces the impact his removal could have had to him, as it appears to be 'injustice'

BBUS a few years ago, had multiple racists, homophobes etc. None were removed, however by allowing the public to see their comments in full (well those who viewed the live feeds) some were held accountable.. or at least humiliated on a wide stage

You're so right. I remember, around 15 years ago, Talk Radio did a fantastic interview of a BNP member which was over an hour long. The interview started off calmly enough with patriotic views expressed that seemed quite reasonable, but with some very clever questioning from the interviewer the BNP member ended up losing it big time and ranting racist abuse. Any notion I, and I imagine many others who heard this programme, ever had of supporting this vile organisation were well and truly quashed forever by this great interview.

BB are getting far too touchy trying to suppress the merest hint of controversy by sweeping it under the carpet. I think it's so much better to let bigots and fanatics destroy themselves from their own mouths.

[Munchkins]

You're so right. I remember, around 15 years ago, Talk Radio did a fantastic interview of a BNP member which was over an hour long. The interview started off calmly enough with patriotic views expressed that seemed quite reasonable, but with some very clever questioning from the interviewer the BNP member ended up losing it big time and ranting racist abuse. Any notion I, and I imagine many others who heard this programme, ever had of supporting this vile organisation were well and truly quashed forever by this great interview.

BB are getting far too touchy trying to suppress the merest hint of controversy by sweeping it under the carpet. I think it's so much better to let bigots and fanatics destroy themselves from their own mouths.

Exactly! the stage is yours Biggins, take it away.

[Withano]

I know im in the minority but i didnt find the spit thing that bad. Id snog her. Bear would snog her. Meh. Biggins probably should have got a final warning instead but his words were bigoted misinformed and stupid enough for me not to care that much. Just. Meh.

[ThriceShy]

I know im in the minority but i didnt find the spit thing that bad. Id snog her. Bear would snog her. Meh. Biggins probably should have got a final warning instead but his words were bigoted misinformed and stupid enough for me not to care that much. Just. Meh.

So biggins being misinformed about AIDS as a gay man is worse than someone spitting in someone's food?

You have jumped the shark.

Whether bear would snog her or not is irrelevant. She should be booted for the sentiment alone, never mind the actual physical implications.

Is it ok for bear to spit in her food as she would probably snog him?

[Withano]

So biggins being misinformed about AIDS as a gay man is worse than someone spitting in someone's food?

You have jumped the shark.

Whether bear would snog her or not is irrelevant. She should be booted for the sentiment alone, never mind the actual physical implications.

Is it ok for bear to spit in her food as she would probably snog him?

I completely understand my opinions in the minority, i stated that before. It just doesnt phase me. I know youre looking for an argument. Im not gonna give it ya, i know most people think its gross i just.. Meh. As for biggins meh. I can take or leave the lot of them.

Think theres a strong argument either way for one being worse than the other but for me personally, meh. I dont care.

[ThriceShy]

I completely understand my opinions in the minority, i stated that before. It just doesnt phase me. I know youre looking for an argument. Im not gonna give it ya, i know most people think its gross i just.. Meh. As for biggins meh. I can take or leave the lot of them.

Think theres a strong argument either way for one being worse than the other but for me personally, meh. I dont care.

Minimising spitting in food with the "oh he would snog her anyway" is equivalent to excusing rape because "she would probably sleep with him anyway."

I notice you accept your opinion is in the minority but you are allowed to express it. So why not extend that courtesy to biggins and accept that he has his own opinion.

[Withano]

Minimising spitting in food with the "oh he would snog her anyway" is equivalent to excusing rape because "she would probably sleep with him anyway."

I notice you accept your opinion is in the minority but you are allowed to express it. So why not extend that courtesy to biggins and accept that he has his own opinion.

You're tiring.

[ThriceShy]

You're tiring.

I have good points you can't refute.

[Withano]

You have a lot of spare time and a lot of silly arguments

[ThriceShy]

You have a lot of spare time and a lot of silly arguments

The bit in bold is rather an odd thing to say as you joined this site after me and yet you have 3 times the number of posts I do.

So if I have a lot of time then you must have a LOT of time.:laugh:

[letmein]

The only unaired one is the one related to jews that he said to Katie. I reckon that will probably be pretty mild but they know how much people kick off about antisemitism.

And rightfully so.

[Cherie]

We haven't seen the evidence to be able to forget.

:joker: it sounds like he said it as a joke, bit tasteless but no malicious intent, Katie seems super sensitive

[camertone]

A gay man makes some controversial remarks about bisexuals and AIDS and is ejected.

Meanwhile a woman actually spits in someone's food and drink, possibly risking infecting him with various diseases, and yet she stays.

It is inexcusable.

some footage is too offensive, so bb decided not to show them.

[Xanzia]

He's not a bigot, he's a Biggins of Big End, and I suppose he's off to Mt. Doom to throw the rest of his public reputation away.

[MrWong]

As the celebs queued up to use the shower in the morning, Biggins allegedly said to The X Factor singer: "You had better be careful or they will put you in a shower or take you to a room!"

Ugh. He's ****ing awful. :umm2:

[MrWong]

Yes, perhaps we'll never know what it was, but if it had been in yer face antisemitic, a big no no on TV, I'm sure they would have kicked him out back then so I conclude it probably wasn't.

Turns out that he made an antisemitic comment to Katie and BB didn't give a **** until 4 days later. Looks like they wanted to cover it up at first.

[chuff me dizzy]

A gay man makes some controversial remarks about bisexuals and AIDS and is ejected.

Meanwhile a woman actually spits in someone's food and drink, possibly risking infecting him with various diseases, and yet she stays.

It is inexcusable.

Totally agree :clap1::clap1::clap1:

[ThriceShy]

Turns out that he made an antisemitic comment to Katie and BB didn't give a **** until 4 days later. Looks like they wanted to cover it up at first.

That remark (and I am disappointed in you taking a tabloid's word as gospel) is not in any way antisemitic.

If that is what he said then it is a pop at BB's regime.

[ThriceShy]

And rightfully so.

In your opinion, yes.

[MrWong]

That remark (and I am disappointed in you taking a tabloid's word as gospel) is not in any way antisemitic.

If that is what he said then it is a pop at BB's regime.

Aimed at hm's in general would have been crass but he said it to the only Jewish person in the house.

Anyway, he has black neighbours so everything's cool.

[hot2go]

That remark (and I am disappointed in you taking a tabloid's word as gospel) is not in any way antisemitic.

If that is what he said then it is a pop at BB's regime.

It seems a bit sketchy what was actually said in front of Katie but from what we have heard I don't think it was antisemetic...making a reference to the holocaust would only be antisemetic if you agreed with it. If anything it puts Nazi Germany up for criticism not the Jewish community.

[luvjustin]

He said nothing to suggest he is scared of bisexuals. He simply stated his opinion on them, which he is entitled to.

Are you really excusing the spitting in someone's sandwich and coffee?

You do realise homophobia doesn't mean you are 'scared' of her homosexuals don't you?

And there is absolutely no reason why a gay men can not be homophobic. Internal homophobia is a thing.

LGBT. The B Stands for bisexual and to totally disregard a whole group of people AND to accuse them of something so horrific is more than grounds for removal in my eyes. Spitting and throwing a bloody cup.. Trivial.

And really, its up to BB who they want to remove. For any reason really. Of course they're going to keep people like Bear. It's good tv. Watching an old man distroy his career is not.

[user104658]

Turns out that he made an antisemitic comment to Katie and BB didn't give a **** until 4 days later. Looks like they wanted to cover it up at first.

If you listen to the DR conversation where they're kicking him out, the "Big Brother" who is talking to him sounds REALLY ****ing nervous. You can hear his heavy breathing and his voice shaking slightly. I think they know the whole thing is a bit of a mess :joker:.

[ThriceShy]

You do realise homophobia doesn't mean you are 'scared' of her homosexuals don't you?



No, I'm afraid I don't realise this.

The word phobia means "fear of." If you aren't trying to suggest people are scared of gays then stop using the word phobia on the end.

It really is that simple.

[luvjustin]

No, I'm afraid I don't realise this.

The word phobia means "fear of." If you aren't trying to suggest people are scared of gays then stop using the word phobia on the end.

It really is that simple.

Well it's a term brought to light many years ago in a less enlightened time that seems to have stuck. Not all words and terms are interpreted exactly as written in the English language.

To clarify, homophobia is more akin to racism than to a fear of spiders. Although a fear of the unknown is thought to be a factor of people's perceived hatred.

[Jamie89]

Well it's a term brought to light many years ago in a less enlightened time that seems to have stuck. Not all words and terms are interpreted exactly as written in the English language.

To clarify, homophobia is more akin to racism than to a fear of spiders. Although a fear of the unknown is thought to be a factor of people's perceived hatred.

Educate ha :clap1:

[ThriceShy]

Well it's a term brought to light many years ago in a less enlightened time that seems to have stuck. Not all words and terms are interpreted exactly as written in the English language.

To clarify, homophobia is more akin to racism than to a fear of spiders. Although a fear of the unknown is thought to be a factor of people's perceived hatred.

Sorry, your, and others', abuse of the English language is not my problem.

Homophobia means "fear of gay people." That is what it means. If you want a word that means hatred of gay people then you need to make up another one.

[MrWong]

Sorry, your, and others', abuse of the English language is not my problem.

Homophobia means "fear of gay people." That is what it means. If you want a word that means hatred of gay people then you need to make up another one.

It doesn't just mean that which is why luvjustins post should have been enough of an explanation.

Irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homophobia

[ThriceShy]

It doesn't just mean that which is why luvjustins post should have been enough of an explanation.



http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homophobia

So you post a definition whose first few words are "Irrational fear of":laugh:

[norma short]

I'm actually disgusted Aubrey has been allowed to stay.

I find it offensive that Big Brother did not intervene and allow bear to eat the disgusting snack. BB should practice what they preach and not be extremely offensive to viewers.

[ThriceShy]

I find it offensive that Big Brother did not intervene and allow bear to eat the disgusting snack. BB should practice what they preach and not be extremely offensive to viewers.

One of the key points here actually is that BB are in TOTAL control of what is shown. Biggins didn't broadcast anything. They chose to broadcast his remarks. So if the bisexuals are offended then it is BB who offended them.

[norma short]

Well said

[MrWong]

So you post a definition whose first few words are "Irrational fear of":laugh:

Did you miss 'or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals'

So it doesn't just mean irrational fear of.

[ThriceShy]

Did you miss 'or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals'

So it doesn't just mean irrational fear of.

Then it has been abused.

If the word "arachnophobia" suddenly had it's definition changed to "Irrational fear of spiders or not liking them very much or thinking they are a bit mean" then I would feel the same.

[Marsh.]

Wow, the straw clutching :joker:

[ThriceShy]

Wow, the straw clutching :joker:

What's wrong? Did you grab the short one?

[MrWong]

Then it has been abused.

If the word "arachnophobia" suddenly had it's definition changed to "Irrational fear of spiders or not liking them very much or thinking they are a bit mean" then I would feel the same.

Claiming to be ignorant of the fact that some words/meanings evolve/change is no defence sorry.

So now you know that it has a few definitions.

[ThriceShy]

Claiming to be ignorant of the fact that some words/meanings evolve/change is no defence sorry.

So now you know that it has a few definitions.

No defence? Just who is on trial here?:laugh:

If people are dumb enough to use a word ending with "Phobia" to mean "prejudice against" then that is up to them. I won't recognise the word in that context. To me it means fear of gays.

Sorry about that.

[MrWong]

No defence? Just who is on trial here?:laugh:

If people are dumb enough to use a word ending with "Phobia" to mean "prejudice against" then that is up to them. I won't recognise the word in that context. To me it means fear of gays.

Sorry about that.

Defence in the context of a debate. Thought that was obvious :shrug:

So if you aren't in favour of the meaning of words changing do you declare 'I'm gay' when you're happy?

Edited to add - This is pure nitpicking. Same as the Winston threads. Can't be arsed. Sorry about that.

[ThriceShy]

Defence in the context of a debate. Thought that was obvious :shrug:

So if you aren't in favour of the meaning of words changing do you declare 'I'm gay' when you're happy?

Edited to add - This is pure nitpicking. Same as the Winston threads. Can't be arsed. Sorry about that.

Actually I do sometimes describe things and myself as gay to mean happy. Why should such a positive word be hijacked for purely political reasons.

It isn't nitpicking. Language is very important.

[luvjustin]

Actually I do sometimes describe things and myself as gay to mean happy. Why should such a positive word be hijacked for purely political reasons.

It isn't nitpicking. Language is very important.

If we were to take your very simplistic view on language, then using words like the N word would not be punishable by law.

[Diatom]

Returned to the realization...

I'm watching propaganda produced by a Tyrannical Nanny State, run by Pedo's.

It all makes sense, now.

[luvjustin]

Returned to the realization...

I'm watching propaganda produced by a Tyrannical Nanny State, run by Pedo's.

It all makes sense, now.

No, you're watching a light entertainment programme.