Biggins reveals the reasons for being ejected

[Drew.]

sorry to link u all to the sun but it has to be done

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/1565904/tv-legend-christopher-biggins-on-his-big-brother-exit-after-sick-holocaust-jibe-at-pal-katie-waissel-got-him-the-axe/

The 67-year-old actor said: “I found Katie and said ‘I am mortified. I would never do anything to upset you. I love you and I’m really sorry’.”

Biggins had earlier made a concentration camp “joke” to the Jewish former X Factor star, 30, as fellow housemates rowed in the bathroom.

He said: “You better be careful or they’ll be putting you in a shower and taking you to a room.”

[AProducer'sWetDream]

:umm2: I can't beleive he would be so stupid. He watches the show- he sould know better.

[Jack_]

...so he was ejected for a badly judged joke?

[Amy Jade]

I thought there was more to it than tonights clips...awful 'joke' he should have known better.

[Mystic Mock]

“You better be careful or they’ll be putting you in a shower and taking you to a room.”

Is it bad of me that this comment is amusing me in a car crash way?

[Rob!]

Sorry but that's insane. Yes it's a poor comment and some of his views were ridiculous but no. Bear should not still be in there over him.

[armand.kay]

To be fare this was all for his own good. The way he was going he would of probably said something career ruining.

[armand.kay]

Also from the dr convo I gathered that he said that earlier in the week and they only gave him an off screen warning.

[Drew.]

Idk what to make of it all. These are the types of jokes you can get away with to people you're close to who share the same sense of humour as you, but it's risky business doing it on national TV in a house full of random people. But then this has been building up with more than 1 warning which he's ignored so harsh or not, it's his own fault

[Marsh.]

He said: “You better be careful or they’ll be putting you in a shower and taking you to a room.”

Omg :joker:

[Jack_]

“You better be careful or they’ll be putting you in a shower and taking you to a room.”

Is it bad of me that this comment is amusing me in a car crash way?

No, I laughed too because it's a joke

I feel bad for Katie because she was obviously someone he shouldn't have said it to, but at the end of the day a joke's a joke, nothing more, nothing less

[Jack_]

Idk what to make of it all. These are the types of jokes you can get away with to people you're close to who share the same sense of humour as you, but it's risky business doing it on national TV in a house full of random people. But then this has been building up with more than 1 warning which he's ignored so harsh or not, it's his own fault

I agree he should've known better than to say this in the house but that's only because things like that get you ejected these days, it doesn't mean it should be like that

[Firewire]

"I have black neighbours" bye

[Lstan]

sorry to link u all to the sun but it has to be done

You should be ASHAMED :fist:

[ThriceShy]

Sorry but that's insane. Yes it's a poor comment and some of his views were ridiculous but no. Bear should not still be in there over him.

Why do people keep wanting to make this about bear? Bear has done nothing wrong really and been the victim of some vile actions, including having his food spat in.

The only person that has deserved ejection this series is Aubrey.

[Marsh.]

The fact Aubrey and Bear remain in the house despite calling their fellow housemates' health and safety into question yet Biggins is chucked out for making an ill judged joke (that doesn't even make it near the top 10 most controversial things spoken in BB's 16 year history) is a joke in and of itself. :joker:

[Ross.]

To be fare this was all for his own good. The way he was going he would of probably said something career ruining.

Yeah I agree, I think if he continued he probably would've said something a lot worse

[Drew.]

I agree he should've known better than to say this in the house but that's only because things like that get you ejected these days, it doesn't mean it should be like that

I'd be more against it had he not been given the previous warnings, but the rules in this situation have been there from the start for him which he's not followed, it's not like the previous times where they've made up a rule in the spare of the moment and punished/ejected someone.

[Marsh.]

Bear has done nothing wrong really

Physical intimidation and violent acts used to be against the rules and get a housemate chucked out.

In comparison, poor Kitten was thrown out for much less than smashing a window with a mug.

[Rob!]

Why do people keep wanting to make this about bear? Bear has done nothing wrong really and been the victim of some vile actions, including having his food spat in.

The only person that has deserved ejection this series is Aubrey.

All the housemates feel intimidated by Bear, that's been said by a number of them. The reason Biggins was removed was for causing offence to housemates. it doesn't take a genius to work out.

[Mystic Mock]

No, I laughed too because it's a joke

I feel bad for Katie because she was obviously someone he shouldn't have said it to, but at the end of the day a joke's a joke, nothing more, nothing less

I always say that to my friends and family who take certain jokes a little too seriously in my eyes.

I get offended by malice more than a harmless joke.

[ThriceShy]

Physical intimidation and violent acts

Now you are bringing Heavy D into it.

[Firewire]

Omg Nikki is clocking on Twitter

[Marsh.]

Now you are bringing Heavy D into it.

So?

https://67.media.tumblr.com/396114389b7a831ce0322cea0bb621cb/tumblr_o5g6i985T01tnu8fho1_500.gif

[Jack_]

I'd be more against it had he not been given the previous warnings, but the rules in this situation have been there from the start for him which he's not followed, it's not like the previous times where they've made up a rule in the spare of the moment and punished/ejected someone.

That's a fair point and it's his own doing I agree, but I still don't think that it should be this way. Unless you're actually violent towards another housemate or mercilessly bully someone I'm pretty much of the opinion that anything should go

The only ejection I can remember I've fully supported was Dennis'

[Mullens123]

No, I laughed too because it's a joke

I feel bad for Katie because she was obviously someone he shouldn't have said it to, but at the end of the day a joke's a joke, nothing more, nothing less

This ... Some jokes certainly cross the line and although it's not the wisest thing to say, it's still meant in jest. Perhaps I have very thick skin, but after my ancestors and many others in life have been put through slavery, holocausts etc. I find it hard to be so easily hurt by a throwaway comment... :shrug:

[Headie]

"I have black neighbours" bye

Lmao :joker:

[ThriceShy]

All the housemates feel intimidated by Bear, that's been said by a number of them. The reason Biggins was removed was for causing offence to housemates. it doesn't take a genius to work out.

How can you possibly justify the bit in bold?

Many people didn't vote for him in the eternal nomination and I am sure Chloe isn't intimidated when she snogs him every day.

[Mystic Mock]

That's a fair point and it's his own doing I agree, but I still don't think that it should be this way. Unless you're actually violent towards another housemate or mercilessly bully someone I'm pretty much of the opinion that anything should go

The only ejection I can remember I've fully supported was Dennis'

Dennis made Mohammed get to the final the bastard.:joker:

[bananarama]

All the housemates feel intimidated by Bear, that's been said by a number of them. The reason Biggins was removed was for causing offence to housemates. it doesn't take a genius to work out.

Please tell me exactly which housemates complained to BB about being offended by what Biggins said.??????

[Marsh.]

How can you possibly justify the bit in bold?

Many people didn't vote for him in the eternal nomination and I am sure Chloe isn't intimidated when she snogs him every day.

Every single housemate doesn't need to feel intimidated.

Just one feeling that way is all that is required. Nobody should feel intimidated or threatened in what should be a safe and secure environment.

Big deal, Chloe is a girl he likes to touch up, so that automatically means he doesn't get aggressive with other people?

Drop me ahht.

[ThriceShy]

Every single housemate doesn't need to feel intimidated.

Just one feeling that way is all that is required. Nobody should feel intimidated or threatened in what should be a safe and secure environment.

Big deal, Chloe is a girl he likes to touch up, so that automatically means he doesn't get aggressive with other people?

Drop me ahht.

Please read the bold portion that I was responding to. It claimed that ALL housemates are intimidated by him.

[Marsh.]

Please read the bold portion that I was responding to. It claimed that ALL housemates are intimidated by him.

Please actually contribute to what is being discussed rather than nitpicking people's posts because you don't have anymore points to offer the actual topic.

[ThriceShy]

Please actually contribute to what is being discussed rather than nitpicking people's posts because you don't have anymore points to offer the actual topic.

Retreat noted.

Now perhaps we can talk about Biggins rather than bear, who the thread isn't even about.

[Tom4784]

Let's not argue guys :( Let's all get along and be happy :)

[Marsh.]

Let's not argue guys :( Let's all get along and be happy :)

Get out Kat.

[Rob!]

How can you possibly justify the bit in bold?

Many people didn't vote for him in the eternal nomination and I am sure Chloe isn't intimidated when she snogs him every day.

I can justify the bit in bold by the bit I used to justify the bit in bold that you didn't bother to bold.

[Marsh.]

I can justify the bit in bold by the bit I used to justify the bit in bold that you didn't bother to bold.

:joker:

[ThriceShy]

I can justify the bit in bold by the bit I used to justify the bit in bold that you didn't bother to bold.

So you maintain that Chloe is intimidated by him. I see.:laugh:

Why did you even bring him into the thread? It is a biggins thread.

[Marsh.]

So you maintain that Chloe is intimidated by him. I see.:laugh:

Why did you even bring him into the thread? It is a biggins thread.

Kind of impossible to discuss one housemate without bringing others into it since it's all connected.

Housemates don't do things/are part of things in isolation from everyone and everything else.

[wendywillow]

ejected over a tasteless joke? maybe let biggins apologize or ask the house if they want him out, now we know why hey get z-list reality stars

[Rob!]

So you maintain that Chloe is intimidated by him. I see.:laugh:

Why did you even bring him into the thread? It is a biggins thread.

Chloe has said herself that she sees him as a "bad boy." That, by definition, would indicate someone that is more intimidating that say, someone like Ricky.
Also, have you not noticed when he kisses her that he puts his hands near or around her neck?

[empire]

if you make jokes or harsh opinions about jews, your fame career is over, biggins will get the hounding treatment, and he is not the only one that has made opinions or jokes about the jews in the fame industry,marlon brando, gary oldman, mel gibson, brando and oldman had to grovel on there knees for criticizing the jewish owners of hollywood, mel in his drunken state said that jews are the one's that cause all the wars in the world, silly thing to say but he said sorry and groveled, but they chased him out of hollywood, todays TV shows are now very over sensitive, and it is unfair to say biggins has hatred when there is none there,

[ThriceShy]

Chloe has said herself that she sees him as a "bad boy." That, by definition, would indicate someone that is more intimidating that say, someone like Ricky.
Also, have you not noticed when he kisses her that he puts his hands near or around her neck?

So now you are accusing him of violent tendencies toward women? And in a thread about biggins.

I have noticed this a lot over the last few days. People seem to want to turn any old unrelated thread into an anti-bear soapbox.

[Marsh.]

We've also noticed you get overly defensive whenever Bear is mentioned.

Maybe get over him?

[ThriceShy]

We've also noticed you get overly defensive whenever Bear is mentioned.

Maybe get over him?

I'm not the one mentioning him in unrelated threads. He really appears to have got under a lot of skins. Considering that is probably his intention then he would no doubt be thinking "job done."

I have my hobby horses but I usually manage to keep them in the appropriate threads. All I ask is that if you want to slate bear then do it in one of the many bear slating threads that are available. That isn't being unreasonable is it?

I really want to discuss biggins at the moment.

[user104658]

"I rly rly like all of the Jews and the Black's and whathaveyou! Some of them even live on the same Street as me!"

[Northern Monkey]

That's a fair point and it's his own doing I agree, but I still don't think that it should be this way. Unless you're actually violent towards another housemate or mercilessly bully someone I'm pretty much of the opinion that anything should go

The only ejection I can remember I've fully supported was Dennis'

100% agree.Opinions or jokes should not be a removable offence no matter what they are.If people don't like his opinions they can vote him out.

[armand.kay]

*complains that everything is about bear* *makes ever thread about bear dispite the op*

[letmein]

if you make jokes or harsh opinions about jews, your fame career is over, biggins will get the hounding treatment, and he is not the only one that has made opinions or jokes about the jews in the fame industry,marlon brando, gary oldman, mel gibson, brando and oldman had to grovel on there knees for criticizing the jewish owners of hollywood, mel in his drunken state said that jews are the one's that cause all the wars in the world, silly thing to say but he said sorry and groveled, but they chased him out of hollywood, todays TV shows are now very over sensitive, and it is unfair to say biggins has hatred when there is none there,

Mel Gibson was given chance after chance. What are you talking about? Jesus Christ, you're such a little antisemite.

[wendywillow]

wait...how did we get to mel gibson

[Cherie]

Well I guess he got a fat fee from the Sun so he's turned this round financially for himself

[arista]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/nintchdbpict000257168012.jpg?w=960

[arista]

...so he was ejected for a badly judged joke?


That would Upset Ch5 Viewers
Yes

[arista]

Sorry but that's insane. Yes it's a poor comment and some of his views were ridiculous but no. Bear should not still be in there over him.


Yes he should
much , much younger

And is Up for Every Eviction.


Biggins has upset the Jews

[arista]

I thought there was more to it than tonights clips...awful 'joke' he should have known better.


He knew what he was doing

[arista]

The fact Aubrey and Bear remain in the house despite calling their fellow housemates' health and safety into question yet Biggins is chucked out for making an ill judged joke (that doesn't even make it near the top 10 most controversial things spoken in BB's 16 year history) is a joke in and of itself. :joker:



Yes but no one else Attacked the Jews.
This has gone on Worldwide TV News now

[joeysteele]

...so he was ejected for a badly judged joke?

People have to be very careful what they say as a joke or generally now Jack_

I am 100% against anti semitism but it is fast heading to the point where people have to be really careful and tread on eggshells now as to anything related to that shocking period in history..

[hot2go]

Physical intimidation and violent acts used to be against the rules and get a housemate chucked out.

In comparison, poor Kitten was thrown out for much less than smashing a window with a mug.

Poor Kitten ? He insulted a whole community and blamed them for spreading the worst killer disease in history and you think a broken mirror was worse ? Really ?

[alex_front2]

if you make jokes or harsh opinions about jews, your fame career is over, biggins will get the hounding treatment, and he is not the only one that has made opinions or jokes about the jews in the fame industry,marlon brando, gary oldman, mel gibson, brando and oldman had to grovel on there knees for criticizing the jewish owners of hollywood, mel in his drunken state said that jews are the one's that cause all the wars in the world, silly thing to say but he said sorry and groveled, but they chased him out of hollywood, todays TV shows are now very over sensitive, and it is unfair to say biggins has hatred when there is none there,
Make jokes about Jews then career is over, make jokes about blacks and Asians then an apology later, you can have a career come back. :nono::rant::rant: :rant::hmph::inamood:

[Marsh.]

Poor Kitten ? He insulted a whole community and blamed them for spreading the worst killer disease in history and you think a broken mirror was worse ? Really ?

Did you really think I was referring to Biggina as Kitten? Really?

I was referring to a former housemate called Kitten who was ejected.

Kindly adjust your tone.

[LTWTW]

We've all seen Biggins on BBOTS, I'm A Celeb and so on, and I think we have a pretty good idea of the man that he is.
And from that I believe he has just been an arse, got too comfortable and thereby unguarded, saying things probably best only said when amongst friends.
To be offensive, there has to be some intent; if Bear made the shower joke (and we still have no confirmation of what Biggins actually said), then we'd know the intent was to be nasty and, yeah, classable as offensive. Coming from Biggins, you know it's just gallows humour and if whatsername really was in tears about it, then she needs a sensitivity bypass.
His views on bisexuals are ridiculous and totally without merit; but offensive? I'm not offended by them - are you? Really? In the grand scheme of things, are those the most offensive views you have heard recently?
If holding ridiculous views was a crime, 90% of the population would be in prison.

Oh oh oh someone said something stupid, let's jump on them and make ourselves feel good by being as judgemental and superior about it as we can - burning at the stake isn't good enough.

[Razor]

I haven't found Biggins at all offensive, Bear on the other hand has been offensive from the beginning.

[Robodog]

We've all seen Biggins on BBOTS, I'm A Celeb and so on, and I think we have a pretty good idea of the man that he is.
And from that I believe he has just been an arse, got too comfortable and thereby unguarded, saying things probably best only said when amongst friends.
To be offensive, there has to be some intent; if Bear made the shower joke (and we still have no confirmation of what Biggins actually said), then we'd know the intent was to be nasty and, yeah, classable as offensive. Coming from Biggins, you know it's just gallows humour and if whatsername really was in tears about it, then she needs a sensitivity bypass.
His views on bisexuals are ridiculous and totally without merit; but offensive? I'm not offended by them - are you? Really? In the grand scheme of things, are those the most offensive views you have heard recently?
If holding ridiculous views was a crime, 90% of the population would be in prison.

Oh oh oh someone said something stupid, let's jump on them and make ourselves feel good by being as judgemental and superior about it as we can - burning at the stake isn't good enough.

Spot on

Great to see there is still plenty of perspective out there amid the hysteria.

This type of over-reaction does more harm than good to the anti-racist movement. There is genuine racism out there which needs addressing in a serious and effective manner, real racism which comes from hatred and actual racist intent. Biggins' stupid joke had neither hatred nor racist intent behind it. There is a very important difference. You cannot compare crap jokes about death camps in general to actual, specific racial hatred. It's an insult to victims of real racism to put them in the same category.

And anyway, his 'joke' was tasteless but it was not aimed at any racial or religious group - it was aimed at BB! Comparing their regime to a death camp. It was an 'anti-regime' joke! The opposite of an 'anti-community' joke. The 'target' of the joke was the cruel regimes, not their victims! He judged wrong and used a sensitive subject to make his point but if you break the joke down, his angle is on the side of the good guys, not the bad guys!

PLUS = Biggins never mentioned any particular death camp, or war, or racial or religious group anyway! People have jumped to conclusions hastily about it being anti-semitic because jews died in death camps in ww2, but plenty of other groups and individuals ALSO died in those camps, including homosexuals, artists and intellectuals - groups that Biggins identifies with i'm sure.

It was a joke about death camps, not about any specific group or person.

What next? Ban Mel Brooks' 'The Producers'? Ban the German episode of Fawlty Towers? Ban 'Allo 'Allo?

[T*]

Poor Kitten ? He insulted a whole community and blamed them for spreading the worst killer disease in history and you think a broken mirror was worse ? Really ?



HE WAS REFERRING TO BB5 KITTEN
jesus

[Marsh.]

Thank you Tom. :clap2:

[Cal.]

Wow Kitten still sparking widespread debate 12 years on. Impact! :clap1:

[Marsh.]

When will Dawn Blake?

[Cal.]

How dare you? She starred in a TV campaign advertising Nikki Grahame in Canada earlier this year?

[Marsh.]

Caggy caring

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/nintchdbpict000255779677.jpg?w=960

[Cal.]

Queen of TOWIE. When will Megan McKenna?

[Marsh.]

When she repays ha spider reparations.

[Marsh.]

Oh wait, no that was Ferne.

[Cal.]

Mess.

Megan McKenna was on CBB literally like 7 months ago how can you have forgotten her? :laugh:

[Marsh.]

Mess.

Megan McKenna was on CBB literally like 7 months ago how can you have forgotten her? :laugh:

I only remember Our Tiff.

Edit - And Daniella's top lip.

[Cal.]

I only remember Our Tiff.

Edit - And Daniella's top lip.

Bye.

Tiff, Gemma, Megan, Angie :love:

HOW did Steph Davis manage to get top female with those kind of women in the same series as her?!

[Marsh.]

Bye.

Tiff, Gemma, Megan, Angie :love:

HOW did Steph Davis manage to get top female with those kind of women in the same series as her?!

bITCH must've shagged the editor.