Lets talk Katie

[chuff me dizzy]

Oh dear what a sad case she is ,if all else fails ......cry :bawling: and how long as she lived in USA as when Bear burst her balloon she went into full blown Bronx voice !!

[Lostie!]

One of the best in there, lovely girl :love:

[Headie]

Katie, such a lovely girl :love:

[Jake.]

she's really nice, I like her

[chuff me dizzy]

:rolleyes:

[Shaun]

She's alright, perfectly likeable but she's not really a favourite of mine.

[Jake.]

sorry, was you only expecting opinions in the same manner as your own?

[Marcus.]

:rolleyes:

well some people are not about loud in your face people

[Lostie!]

sorry, was you only expecting opinions in the same manner as your own?

Yeah, silly old me thinking "Let's talk Katie" was an invite for people to post their opinions.

[Samm]

She's so pretty and lovely :love:

[rusticgal]

She seems a nice girl....if any one but Bear had burst her balloon she would have been ok...

[Braden]

Her rendition of Don't Give Up on Me :love:

No, I genuinely like her but I did find her accent change quite odd during that argument :p I don't think she's done anything to warrant dislike. I'd me temperamental too if I was in a house with Bear.

[Amy Jade]

She's coming across like a really nice and genuine person, she's really nothing like the media protray.

[chuff me dizzy]

Yeah, silly old me thinking "Let's talk Katie" was an invite for people to post their opinions.

Oh yes it is an invite ,as even this far into the series Ive hardly seen anyone say who they are supporting ,its all about HATE and no love this series

[LukeB]

She's coming across like a really nice and genuine person, she's really nothing like the media protray.

I gave up on this season but I believe this, I'm glad she gets to show people who she really is because when she was on xf the media made out she was some monster and i thought it was probably all lies. I might have to spam vote to save her if she's up like I did every week when she was on xf :fan: good old days

[hot2go]

After sixteen years everyone knows it's no place for the faint hearted and people who cry...that's just an act with her and it's tiresome

[Amy Jade]

After sixteen years everyone knows it's no place for the faint hearted and people who cry...that's just an act with her and it's tiresome

Interesting.

Yet you were full of sympathy for Jason just a few weeks ago when he cried and threw a tantrum :think:

[Drew.]

Yeah, silly old me thinking "Let's talk Katie" was an invite for people to post their opinions.

:joker:

Shes so harmless and sweet though i don't understand how anyone could dislike her that much

[reece(:]

Love Katie, kind hearted and genuine chick <3

[reece(:]

Oh yes it is an invite ,as even this far into the series Ive hardly seen anyone say who they are supporting ,its all about HATE and no love this series
It's about hate when Bear threads keep being spammed

[Withano]

Oh yes it is an invite ,as even this far into the series Ive hardly seen anyone say who they are supporting ,its all about HATE and no love this series

You used the roll eyes emoji as soon as you saw people comment that they liked her

[hot2go]

Interesting.

Yet you were full of sympathy for Jason just a few weeks ago when he cried and threw a tantrum :think:

Jason had been tested and stretched and challenged way beyond the point that most people would crack....Katie started howling just because someone called Amy Winehouse a crack head....she cried at Biggins instead of challenging and educating him and telling him to jog on ....and she cried after nominating Bear even though she made that choice and what he thinks about her isn't important anyway cause she don't like him....and then tonight crying cause someone burst a balloon....she's just a wuss and I'm not believing it's real

[Yaki da]

She's wet. But manipulative.

[Amy Jade]

Jason had been tested and stretched and challenged way beyond the point that most people would crack....Katie started howling just because someone called Amy Winehouse a crack head....she cried at Biggins instead of challenging and educating him and telling him to jog on ....and she cried after nominating Bear even though she made that choice and what he thinks about her isn't important anyway cause she don't like him....and then tonight crying cause someone burst a balloon....she's just a wuss and I'm not believing it's real

Well as you quite rightly pointend out the shows been going 16 years, they all know what they're walking into and some people are far more emotional than others. I just find it quite funny you fully justify one person becoming emotional while condemning another :laugh:

[susie q]

Shes not my favourite, but I still quite like her.

[Marsh.]

Oh yes it is an invite ,as even this far into the series Ive hardly seen anyone say who they are supporting ,its all about HATE and no love this series

So you created another hate thread?

[BB247]

she's really nice, I like her

I like her too, just too boring for CBB

[hot2go]

Well as you quite rightly pointend out the shows been going 16 years, they all know what they're walking into and some people are far more emotional than others. I just find it quite funny you fully justify one person becoming emotional while condemning another :laugh:

I'm not condemning her I just don't rate her....I started off liking her but I ain't into crying over nothing ...and I dont believe she's not tougher than she's acting...she's on CBB, she's been on X Factor she lives in America and she's married.... No way is she as sensitive as she's pretending to be.

[chuff me dizzy]

Jason had been tested and stretched and challenged way beyond the point that most people would crack....Katie started howling just because someone called Amy Winehouse a crack head....she cried at Biggins instead of challenging and educating him and telling him to jog on ....and she cried after nominating Bear even though she made that choice and what he thinks about her isn't important anyway cause she don't like him....and then tonight crying cause someone burst a balloon....she's just a wuss and I'm not believing it's real

Agree with all you say

[Alf]

Bleeding selfish Scum she is!

She needs to sod off!

[chuff me dizzy]

When did she move to USA ?

[Ammi]

Jason had been tested and stretched and challenged way beyond the point that most people would crack....Katie started howling just because someone called Amy Winehouse a crack head....she cried at Biggins instead of challenging and educating him and telling him to jog on ....and she cried after nominating Bear even though she made that choice and what he thinks about her isn't important anyway cause she don't like him....and then tonight crying cause someone burst a balloon....she's just a wuss and I'm not believing it's real

...but this house has been tested/is being tested and stretched and challenged way beyond the point that most people would 'crack' as well, by the purposeful behaviour of Bear...nothing was done to Jason to purposefully make him crack so far as I recall and he did emotionally 'crack' on a few occasions...so I don't really see why there would be criticism of Katie for the method in which she displays 'crack' through her release of tears.../we all have different releases of 'crack' and being pushed to that crack...she didn't howl just because someone called Amy Winehouse a crack head, she didn't cry just because of what Biggins said or because or her nominating Bear or because of her balloon being burst because there is no 'just because' in there, it's all a huge build up of the stress/the tension and the winding up etc...it's all of those things as a collectiveness and how so many are feeling in there..(and we know that because of the constant and repeated comments from the housemates of what life with Bear is creating for them all and even Marnie and Lewis, his closer supporters have commented to on him going too far at certain things..)...and all of those things and how they're being released and for Katie it's with tears, which is a pretty harmless way and hurts no other housemate or threatens no other housemate in any way and etc....

..I can actually understand in such a house and with such self protection against the negative environment that there is no escape from, how a balloon being protected becomes such a focus and her upset at it being purposefully burst by that very antagonist that she was thankful of a task to escape/to escape that negativity for a short while..but boom, the balloon was burst by him and her little haven of focus of some small shred of something less negative was burst also and she was snapped back into 'Bearworld'...she's not a wuss, she's someone who is trying to self-protect against a house of hostility which is being purposefully created for amusement and tears are how she's releasing....

[Cherie]

I have wondered for a while if she lived in the states as she does speak with an accent at times

[chuff me dizzy]

I have wondered for a while if she lived in the states as she does speak with an accent at times

She lives there as far as I know( never heard of her before CBB) but don't think she's been there long ,I cannot remember when she said she moved there .her silly accent :joker: Even Rylan took the pee out of her about it last night

[Ellen]

She lives there as far as I know( never heard of her before CBB) but don't think she's been there long ,I cannot remember when she said she moved there .her silly accent :joker: Even Rylan took the pee out of her about it last night

I think she has been backwards and forwards to the states since her X factor rejection but i believe she has been living there about a year but could be wrong.

[chuff me dizzy]

I think she has been backwards and forwards to the states since her X factor rejection but i believe she has been living there about a year but could be wrong.

A bloody year ? and she talks full blown Bronx ?

[waterhog]

Katie, such a lovely girl :love:

I like seeing that - that shows how much little things get to you. and they will do especially in there for so long. she done well to not explode before now.

[Ellen]

A bloody year ? and she talks full blown Bronx ?

Yeah i think its about that but she has been stayed over there often before moving there.
It is odd how she goes into full American accent. I remember Joss Stone getting the pee taken out of her because she came back from the states with an accent and she had been living there for about 3-4 years! :laugh:

[chuff me dizzy]

Yeah i think its about that but she has been stayed over there often before moving there.
It is odd how she goes into full American accent. I remember Joss Stone getting the pee taken out of her because she came back from the states with an accent and she had been living there for about 3-4 years! :laugh:

My brother and his wife lived in Canada for over 30 years,he still speaks Yorkshire

[joeysteele]

She is just neither good or bad for me, she is just there.
I cannot think of anything else other than the song in the talent contest she did, and now the speculation of a conversation,(which we haven't seen or heard), with Biggins, as to what she has done of note as a housemate.

I don't mind her there as a housemate but doubt she would be missed if she wasn't.

[chuff me dizzy]

She is just neither god or bad for me, she is just there.
I cannot think of anything else other than the song in the talent contest she did, and now the speculation of a conversation,(which we haven't seen or heard), with Biggins, as to what she has done of note as a housemate.

I don't mind her there as a housemate but doubt she would be missed if she wasn't.

Ive never heard of her before the show and will soon forget about her when she's gone ,she's stuck to Aubrey side like a limpet and made herself look silly with all the tears and the fake accent

[Liam-]

Another one of Bear's victims, when will the bullying end?

[Jamie89]

Love her :love:

:rolleyes:

She does it better >

https://s10.postimg.org/jrk0k5bzd/katie_w.jpg

[joeysteele]

Ive never heard of her before the show and will soon forget about her when she's gone ,she's stuck to Aubrey side like a limpet and made herself look silly with all the tears and the fake accent

She was on X Factor chuff and pathetic Cheryl put her through to the live finals even though she kept forgetting the words to the songs at judges houses stage.

In the live finals she messed up forgetting the words again and even in one of the sing offs she was in too,yet they still saved her and kept her in.

Her best performance for me on X Factor was 'I wanna be like you' from Jungle Book, she even managed to remember the words for it too.

[Northern Monkey]

Very emotionally attached to that balloon

[chuff me dizzy]

She was on X Factor chuff and pathetic Cheryl put her through to the live finals even though she kept forgetting the words to the songs at judges houses stage.

In the live finals she messed up forgetting the words again and even in one of the sing offs she was in too,yet they still saved her and kept her in.

Her best performance for me on X Factor was 'I wanna be like you' from Jungle Book, she even managed to remember the words for it too.

:umm2: So she's talented then :joker: Did she turn on the water works to get through ? Ive googled her and she seems to come from a great background, her Grandmas an 87 yr old prostitute !!

[DanielM787]

Im really liking katie at the moment, she seems well liked within the house

[SherzyK]

Im really liking katie at the moment, she seems well liked within the house

And well liked among the Tibb community. Why people would dislike such a kind and genuine person is beyond me.

[DanielM787]

And well liked among the Tibb community. Why people would dislike such a kind and genuine person is beyond me.

I Know right :shrug::conf:

[Cherie]

Very emotionally attached to that balloon

:laugh:

[Cal.]

One of the best in there, lovely girl :love:

.

[Strictly Jake]

I actually really like her! She is in my top 3

1. Renee
2. Aubrey
3. Katie

[camertone]

she is one of normal ones there, alongside ricky. she comes across well, seems quite nice girl.

[chuff me dizzy]

she is one of normal ones there, alongside ricky. she comes across well, seems quite nice girl.

Ricky is the biggest player in there,even outplaying D and thats saying something

[jaxie]

What a whiner, and very good at turning on the eye taps at every opportunity.

[Garfie]

...but this house has been tested/is being tested and stretched and challenged way beyond the point that most people would 'crack' as well, by the purposeful behaviour of Bear...nothing was done to Jason to purposefully make him crack so far as I recall and he did emotionally 'crack' on a few occasions...so I don't really see why there would be criticism of Katie for the method in which she displays 'crack' through her release of tears.../we all have different releases of 'crack' and being pushed to that crack...she didn't howl just because someone called Amy Winehouse a crack head, she didn't cry just because of what Biggins said or because or her nominating Bear or because of her balloon being burst because there is no 'just because' in there, it's all a huge build up of the stress/the tension and the winding up etc...it's all of those things as a collectiveness and how so many are feeling in there..(and we know that because of the constant and repeated comments from the housemates of what life with Bear is creating for them all and even Marnie and Lewis, his closer supporters have commented to on him going too far at certain things..)...and all of those things and how they're being released and for Katie it's with tears, which is a pretty harmless way and hurts no other housemate or threatens no other housemate in any way and etc....

..I can actually understand in such a house and with such self protection against the negative environment that there is no escape from, how a balloon being protected becomes such a focus and her upset at it being purposefully burst by that very antagonist that she was thankful of a task to escape/to escape that negativity for a short while..but boom, the balloon was burst by him and her little haven of focus of some small shred of something less negative was burst also and she was snapped back into 'Bearworld'...she's not a wuss, she's someone who is trying to self-protect against a house of hostility which is being purposefully created for amusement and tears are how she's releasing....

I love you, Ammi! You have such an insightful understanding of human behaviour, and as always, you are totally right about Katie and the reason for the tears.. It is clear how so many of them are feeling this way, even though their responses differ.

[fitz2k2]

Katie such a child

[hot2go]

Silly girls who cry easily or turn on the tears for air time shouldn't be in the Big Beother house in my opinion. That stuff can cause more trouble then any amount of shouting and arguing....it can be lethal....luckily she doesn't have some bloke in the house because that would make the tears even more effective....passive aggressive bahaviour

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/X1-TZw1Yplc/maxresdefault.jpg

[Headie]

Silly girls who cry easily or turn on the tears for air time shouldn't be in the Big Beother house in my opinion. That stuff can cause more trouble then any amount of shouting and arguing....it can be lethal....luckily she doesn't have some bloke in the house because that would make the tears even more effective....passive aggressive bahaviour

But if a man cries then it's ok?

[hot2go]

But if a man cries then it's ok?

There are differences in men and women in certain situations.....women in the house cry more easily and more frequently ....they often don't attach shame to the concept of it and they often use it to shut down some else to win a fight....men cry a lot less, it usually takes greater stress or longer periods of time leading up to it....men in the house rarely cry to win a fight and on the rare occasions that men fake it, like Jackson for example, no one runs to their aid, no one sees them as a victim, no one starts a fight over it and usually no one watching or in the house has any sympathy...
Women crying in the house can be a powerful tool....men crying in house just dimishes their power. Crying comes with some responsibility and can change the dynamics of a group of people for the better or for the worse. An example of that is Katie getting upset with Biggins instead of letting him know she was offended and demanding an opology, like I imagine Saira would do or Aubrey or any of the guys in the house....the outcome may have been a very different for Biggins and for herself....she has cried numerous times now and I see it at best as a sign of insecurity and at worst as an act of passive aggression. Either of which are not good traits for someone going into the Big Brother environment.

[Crimson Dynamo]

But if a man cries then it's ok?

:nono:

men should not cry

only at happy things

[EspeonBB]

A sweet and genuine chick <3

[Northern Monkey]

There are differences in men and women in certain situations.....women in the house cry more easily and more frequently ....they often don't attach shame to the concept of it and they often use it to shut down some else to win a fight....men cry a lot less, it usually takes greater stress or longer periods of time leading up to it....men in the house rarely cry to win a fight and on the rare occasions that men fake it, like Jackson for example, no one runs to their aid, no one sees them as a victim, no one starts a fight over it and usually no one watching or in the house has any sympathy...
Women crying in the house can be a powerful tool....men crying in house just dimishes their power. Crying comes with some responsibility and can change the dynamics of a group of people for the better or for the worse. An example of that is Katie getting upset with Biggins instead of letting him know she was offended and demanding an opology, like I imagine Saira would do or Aubrey or any of the guys in the house....the outcome may have been a very different for Biggins and for herself....she has cried numerous times now and I see it at best as a sign of insecurity and at worst as an act of passive aggression. Either of which are not good traits for someone going into the Big Brother environment.:clap1:

[hot2go]

...but this house has been tested/is being tested and stretched and challenged way beyond the point that most people would 'crack' as well, by the purposeful behaviour of Bear...nothing was done to Jason to purposefully make him crack so far as I recall and he did emotionally 'crack' on a few occasions...so I don't really see why there would be criticism of Katie for the method in which she displays 'crack' through her release of tears.../we all have different releases of 'crack' and being pushed to that crack...she didn't howl just because someone called Amy Winehouse a crack head, she didn't cry just because of what Biggins said or because or her nominating Bear or because of her balloon being burst because there is no 'just because' in there, it's all a huge build up of the stress/the tension and the winding up etc...it's all of those things as a collectiveness and how so many are feeling in there..(and we know that because of the constant and repeated comments from the housemates of what life with Bear is creating for them all and even Marnie and Lewis, his closer supporters have commented to on him going too far at certain things..)...and all of those things and how they're being released and for Katie it's with tears, which is a pretty harmless way and hurts no other housemate or threatens no other housemate in any way and etc....

..I can actually understand in such a house and with such self protection against the negative environment that there is no escape from, how a balloon being protected becomes such a focus and her upset at it being purposefully burst by that very antagonist that she was thankful of a task to escape/to escape that negativity for a short while..but boom, the balloon was burst by him and her little haven of focus of some small shred of something less negative was burst also and she was snapped back into 'Bearworld'...she's not a wuss, she's someone who is trying to self-protect against a house of hostility which is being purposefully created for amusement and tears are how she's releasing....

But they know this Amy, before they go in..it's Big Brother not a weekend break.....she can react anyway she likes but how she reacts has different implications and in the case of Biggins it's threatened to destroy his livelihood and his name...unfortunate for him and for her and maybe unavoidable because of the kind of person she is but we can't ignore that it's happened. Maybe she should consider leaving if it's too much to bear. She's not tough enough to handle it. If it's a build up and the environment that are the reason she keeps crying then the kindest thing for her to do would be to at least explain that to people like Chloe, imagine how Chloe must have felt about it. She may feel upset but she's upsetting other poeple as a result, as a lot of them are, but in her case it's making villains out of people who don't deserve it as opposed to Heavy and Bear who are making victims out of people who don't always deserve it. For the most part though, when Bear and Heavy upset people those people have usually done something to cause them to bahave like pricks, even if it's only because they have reacted to Bear and Heavy and lost their cool ...but the people who fall victim to Katie's reaction have meant no harm when they've said the things they have said.
Maybe it's not been shown but I've seen no sign that Katie feels bad about how her reaction to Biggins contributed to him being removed and shamed.

[jet]

But they know this Amy, before they go in..it's Big Brother not a weekend break.....she can react anyway she likes but how she reacts has different implications and in the case of Biggins it's threatened to destroy his livelihood and his name...unfortunate for him and for her and maybe unavoidable because of the kind of person she is but we can't ignore that it's happened. Maybe she should consider leaving if it's too much to bear. She's not tough enough to handle it. If it's a build up and the environment that are the reason she keeps crying then the kindest thing for her to do would be to at least explain that to people like Chloe, imagine how Chloe must have felt about it. She may feel upset but she's upsetting other poeple as a result, as a lot of them are, but in her case it's making villains out of people who don't deserve it as opposed to Heavy and Bear who are making victims out of people who don't always deserve it. For the most part though, when Bear and Heavy upset people those people have usually done something to cause them to bahave like pricks, even if it's only because they have reacted to Bear and Heavy and lost their cool ...but the people who fall victim to Katie's reaction have meant no harm when they've said the things they have said.
Maybe it's not been shown but I've seen no sign that Katie feels bad about how her reaction to Biggins contributed to him being removed and shamed.

Ammi's her name, not Amy.
I see what you're doing there, putting Bear and Heavy on a par with upsetting people...nice try.:wink:

[Munchkins]

I love her, probably my favourite in there :)

[hot2go]

It's Ammi, not Amy.
I see what you're doing there, putting Bear and Heavy on a par with upsetting people...nice try.:wink:

Well Biggins nominated him out of 15 housemates week one....six people gave him killer noms last Friday ...This week the housemates have put him up for eviction...three times, that we know about, BB have called him to the diary room to calm down....Siara thinks he's offensive, Lewis thinks he's bad mannered and greedy, James thinks he's annoying and Sam said she can't cope with him singing all the time. And of course then there's Chloe.

So yeh, I am putting him and Bear on a par with each other. I don't know why one is a villain and one is a saint.

[Anaesthesia]

I really want to like her. But in order for me to do so, she has to show me something that's not purely reactive.

[jet]

Well Biggins nominated him out of 15 housemates week one....six people gave him killer noms last Friday ...This week the housemates have put him up for eviction...three times, that we know about, BB have called him to the diary room to calm down....Siara thinks he's offensive, Lewis thinks he's bad mannered and greedy, James thinks he's annoying and Sam said she can't cope with him singing all the time. And of course then there's Chloe.

So yeh, I am putting him and Bear on a par with each other. I don't know why one is a villain and one is a saint.

Did I say he was a saint? Stop putting words in my mouth.
Now tell us about Bear and all his noms and his actual killer nom, smashing a window, breaking the DR door, wasting peoples coffee and eggs and saying he doesn't care, making Katie cry, most of the house thinking he's offensive, irritating most of the HM's to breaking point (which you have agreed with and love). I could go on and on, but you get the gist.
No, Bear and Heavy are not on a par with upsetting people. But once again, nice try! :hee:

[johne]

In every BB I always get annoyed when the nasty, muscular, pretty boys get a pass to the final purely on their good looks, but being a hypocrite I always fall for the attractive female HM's (except Helen Wood), especially those who get overshadowed by the extroverts. Being honest, Katie hasn't done enough, being emotional, she is beautiful and vulnerable so I'll be sad when she goes.

[empire]

the problem is that katie is a 30 year old woman who seems to have child like feelings, when bear burst her balloon she acted like an eight year old, okey bear should not of done it but katie should of took it far better than that.

[hot2go]

Did I say he was a saint? Stop putting words in my mouth.
Now tell us about Bear and all his noms and his actual killer nom, smashing a window, breaking the DR door, wasting peoples coffee and eggs and saying he doesn't care, making Katie cry, most of the house thinking he's offensive, irritating most of the HM's to breaking point (which you have agreed with and love). I could go on and on, but you get the gist.
No, Bear and Heavy are not on a par with upsetting people. But once again, nice try! :hee:

I don't need to list Bears annoyance again, you've just provided the list yourself, again, we all recognise and accept it...it's the reason some of us like watching him....so what's the point of keep dredging over it...we know already....we get it...Big Bad Bear is a wrong un and we like it.
It's this idea of Heavy not being annoying and not being offensive that I'm struggling with.....I like watching Bear cause he acts like a bell end, which is true....you seem to like Heavy because he acts like a friendly misunderstood guy, which is not true.
If Bear wasn't so basic I would prob like him too cause he's a proper wind up merchant but I'm never gonna be interested in a bloke who dresses like a school boy gangster and shouts Boom 50 times a day like a pleb....what ever floats people's boat, just not my cup of tea.