Bullying - bullying - bullying

[kirklancaster]

Bear is NOT funny at all - He is a BULLYING YOB. It does not matter what 'funny voice' he affects - He is a BULLYING YOB, plain and simple.

If I want to watch ignorant, uncouth, bullies such as Bear and Bloor, I do NOT need to turn on my TV set, I can go into the City centre on any weekend at night or on any Bank Holiday during the daytime.

I am getting old, and have had just 5 fights in the past 4 years or so, and EVERY single time, it was not only with a Stephen Bear or Lewis Bloor, but also NOT at my instigation.

I was standing in quite a long cinema queue with my wife and two young nephews of 10 and 12 years old, and had been queuing for about 15 minutes, when Bear, Bloor and two other clones walked STRAIGHT to the front of the queue and pushed in.

The queue was a mixed one, with parents with young children, older people, and young couples, and one slightly built dad with a young girl of about 8 years old - who was at the front of the queue and had been directly jostled by Bear and Bloor and co - tried to protest, but got a load of abuse back from them for his troubles, and understandably, clammed up.

That was just before I shouted to them to get to the back of the queue.

I will not go into details, but they DID eventually go to the BACK of the queue.

I was in a busy town centre pub, again with my wife, and was waiting to be served at a bar. There were 3 other people - a young couple, and a young girl, who were waiting to be served at the bar before me, as well as others being served.

The barman serving customers at 'our' section of the bar was Stephen Bear.

Along with the three others who were waiting, I waited for over 10 minutes as gangs of other Stephen Bears kept pushing into the growing numbers of people joining the 'queue of customers wanting to be served, and WITHOUT FAIL, 'Bear the Barman' - who so obviously KNEW them, served them and ignored both my call and that of the three who were before me. The cheeky twat even looked at us as we tried to tell him that we were next then ignored us anyway.

After no joy trying to attract the attention of the other nearest barman - who DID seem to be serving customers in his section in order - I tried Bear again, but no joy, as he just looked, seemed to become annoyed and snapped at me to "wait", then continued laughing and chatting to his 'mates' as he served them.

This ended up with my grabbing him, dragging him half across the bar and telling him in my best 'French' what fate awaited him if he did not start serving quiet customers in the order of waiting time.

When I let him go, he summoned the bouncers, but was out of luck as the two that came knew me, and knew that I did not cause trouble, so after listening to what happened, they told him that he better start serving according to waiting time then left.

Bear came to me - all nice and sheepish now - apologised and asked me what drinks I wanted. He seemed genuinely shocked when I pointed to the young couple and the other girl - who were STILL waiting - and I said; "Those two first, then that girl, THEN me".

Stephen Bear is NOT entertaining in the slightest. He is nothing more than an egotistical, ignorant, selfish, BULLY - one of a rapidly growing number of Stephen Bears who are infesting society, and ruining the quality of life of other people by IMPOSING his WILL upon them without any regard for them, or their rights, or their wishes.

THEY are the ones who feel it is BENEATH them to queue with we ORDINARY citizens - whether it be outside a cinema, at a bar waiting to be served, or even at a shop cash out - THEY are the ones who, in NUMBERS -- NEVER alone -- walk straight to the front of the queue and push in.

THEY are the ones, who walk THROUGH people BARGING them aside, in crowded pubs, clubs, shops, or on city sidewalks. NOT for them, the careful negotiating AROUND elderly people, parents with young children, or even mere slow walkers, as we ORDINARY citizens do.

And we do NOT even have to SEE these ignorant twats to suffer from their crass bullying behaviour.

I HEAR them every week whether it is while I am sitting peacefully in my garden on a warm sunny Sunday afternoon or in my room late at night quietly reading, or listening to music, or watching TV.

THEY are the ones who spend long periods, REVVING UP their stationary 'souped up' motorcycles, and cars which have had the bafflers removed so that the sound is even more invasive and deafening.

THEY are the ones who let off FIREWORKS from 9pm to well into the early hours EVERY single weekend all year round now, with NO REGARD for other people, their sleeping babies and young children, or their terrified pet dogs.

THEY are the ones who SCREAM and SHOUT at the top of their drunken voices at 3 and 4am in the morning as they walk home through sleeping Housing Estates, with NO regard for other people.

THEY are also the ones who throw their empty beer bottles, cans and take-way wrappers over other people's garden fences, and the ones who piss up against the gable walls of other people's houses on their way home from the nightclubs and pubs.

Some of you on here, may try to tell me that you find Bear and Bloor's behaviour 'funny', and if that is what 'floats your boat', fair enough - it is a free country - but do NOT try to convince me that they are NOT bullies, because I have WITNESSED how these two ignorant twats, AND their vacuous molls, Marnie and Chloe, are imposing their antisocial, guttersnipe and aggressive behaviour upon the quieter, more decent and thoughtful members of the house, and I RECOGNISE how that is impairing the quality of their time in the house, stifling their rights to enjoy themselves, and intimidating them, and I CALL that BULLYING.
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[sampvt]

In my day these were the yobs we clipped round the ear and sent them home to their dads that they were scared of. No longer, its a different world now, no respect anymore. Bring back conscription to juvy offenders.

[Withano]

I hate how people think that bullying is exclusive to children. Of course adults can bully others. Bear is bullying.

The thread will inevitably become full of "ergh not the B word again" and to those people, look up a definition of bullying first.

[Cherie]

Lewis is worse for me

[Crimson Dynamo]

Lewis is worse for me

yes

but both are cowardly bullies

[jennyjuniper]

Bear is NOT funny at all - He is a BULLYING YOB. It does not matter what 'funny voice' he affects - He is a BULLYING YOB, plain and simple.

If I want to watch ignorant, uncouth, bullies such as Bear and Bloor, I do NOT need to turn on my TV set, I can go into the City centre on any weekend at night or on any Bank Holiday during the daytime.

I am getting old, and have had just 5 fights in the past 4 years or so, and EVERY single time, it was not only with a Stephen Bear or Lewis Bloor, but also NOT at my instigation.

I was standing in quite a long cinema queue with my wife and two young nephews of 10 and 12 years old, and had been queuing for about 15 minutes, when Bear, Bloor and two other clones walked STRAIGHT to the front of the queue and pushed in.

The queue was a mixed one, with parents with young children, older people, and young couples, and one slightly built dad with a young girl of about 8 years old - who was at the front of the queue and had been directly jostled by Bear and Bloor and co - tried to protest, but got a load of abuse back from them for his troubles, and understandably, clammed up.

That was just before I shouted to them to get to the back of the queue.

I will not go into details, but they DID eventually go to the BACK of the queue.

I was in a busy town centre pub, again with my wife, and was waiting to be served at a bar. There were 3 other people - a young couple, and a young girl, who were waiting to be served at the bar before me, as well as others being served.

The barman serving customers at 'our' section of the bar was Stephen Bear.

Along with the three others who were waiting, I waited for over 10 minutes as gangs of other Stephen Bears kept pushing into the growing numbers of people joining the 'queue of customers wanting to be served, and WITHOUT FAIL, 'Bear the Barman' - who so obviously KNEW them, served them and ignored both my call and that of the three who were before me. The cheeky twat even looked at us as we tried to tell him that we were next then ignored us anyway.

After no joy trying to attract the attention of the other nearest barman - who DID seem to be serving customers in his section in order - I tried Bear again, but no joy, as he just looked, seemed to become annoyed and snapped at me to "wait", then continued laughing and chatting to his 'mates' as he served them.

This ended up with my grabbing him, dragging him half across the bar and telling him in my best 'French' what fate awaited him if he did not start serving quiet customers in the order of waiting time.

When I let him go, he summoned the bouncers, but was out of luck as the two that came knew me, and knew that I did not cause trouble, so after listening to what happened, they told him that he better start serving according to waiting time then left.

Bear came to me - all nice and sheepish now - apologised and asked me what drinks I wanted. He seemed genuinely shocked when I pointed to the young couple and the other girl - who were STILL waiting - and I said; "Those two first, then that girl, THEN me".

Stephen Bear is NOT entertaining in the slightest. He is nothing more than an egotistical, ignorant, selfish, BULLY - one of a rapidly growing number of Stephen Bears who are infesting society, and ruining the quality of life of other people by IMPOSING his WILL upon them without any regard for them, or their rights, or their wishes.

THEY are the ones who feel it is BENEATH them to queue with we ORDINARY citizens - whether it be outside a cinema, at a bar waiting to be served, or even at a shop cash out - THEY are the ones who, in NUMBERS -- NEVER alone -- walk straight to the front of the queue and push in.

THEY are the ones, who walk THROUGH people BARGING them aside, in crowded pubs, clubs, shops, or on city sidewalks. NOT for them, the careful negotiating AROUND elderly people, parents with young children, or even mere slow walkers, as we ORDINARY citizens do.

And we do NOT even have to SEE these ignorant twats to suffer from their crass bullying behaviour.

I HEAR them every week whether it is while I am sitting peacefully in my garden on a warm sunny Sunday afternoon or in my room late at night quietly reading, or listening to music, or watching TV.

THEY are the ones who spend long periods, REVVING UP their stationary 'souped up' motorcycles, and cars which have had the bafflers removed so that the sound is even more invasive and deafening.

THEY are the ones who let off FIREWORKS from 9pm to well into the early hours EVERY single weekend all year round now, with NO REGARD for other people, their sleeping babies and young children, or their terrified pet dogs.

THEY are the ones who SCREAM and SHOUT at the top of their drunken voices at 3 and 4am in the morning as they walk home through sleeping Housing Estates, with NO regard for other people.

THEY are also the ones who throw their empty beer bottles, cans and take-way wrappers over other people's garden fences, and the ones who piss up against the gable walls of other people's houses on their way home from the nightclubs and pubs.

Some of you on here, may try to tell me that you find Bear and Bloor's behaviour 'funny', and if that is what 'floats your boat', fair enough - it is a free country - but do NOT try to convince me that they are NOT bullies, because I have WITNESSED how these two ignorant twats, AND their vacuous molls, Marnie and Chloe, are imposing their antisocial, guttersnipe and aggressive behaviour upon the quieter, more decent and thoughtful members of the house, and I RECOGNISE how that is impairing the quality of their time in the house, stifling their rights to enjoy themselves, and intimidating them, and I CALL that BULLYING.
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Very well said Kirk. I only wish I'd been in the queue with you when bear the barman got his comeuppance.:cheer2::cheer2:

[ScottyT]

The irony is they think their behaviour is 'socially acceptable' and 'normal' - yes, maybe on the beaches of Marbella, in Ibiza and Magaluf with the rest of the dreggs of society but not in a normal civilised world. Their lives are going down the drain when they hit their 30's and they are no longer relevant. Their only desirable skill will be being capable of sending out incoherent dumb tweets.

[rusticgal]

He is a bully. He intimidates with the intention of controlling people. This is why he could not deal with the nominations for him and threw his toys out of the Pram...because he didn't have the control he thought he had. He then went on to threaten them with worse behaviour. He now doesn't like the fact that the housemates are ignoring him...because he has no control. It's going to wind him up if they keep it up...

It's the only way to deal with bullies like Bear....don't bite and give them what they want...just IGNORE the dickhead and watch him bite.

[ScottyT]

He is a bully. He intimidates with the intention of controlling people. This is why he could not deal with the nominations for him and threw his toys out of the Pram...because he didn't have the control he thought he had. He then went on to threaten them with worse behaviour. He now doesn't like the fact that the housemates are ignoring him...because he has no control. It's going to wind him up if they keep it up...

It's the only way to deal with bullies like Bear....don't bite and give them what they want...just IGNORE the dickhead and watch him bite.

Spot on. Bear thrives off attention. If he doesn't get it, he'll become uncomfortable fast because he has nothing else to offer but childish antics and he knows it!

[ThriceShy]

I hate how people think that bullying is exclusive to children. Of course adults can bully others. Bear is bullying.

The thread will inevitably become full of "ergh not the B word again" and to those people, look up a definition of bullying first.

Bear is the one being bullied. His food and drink were spat in and several people knew about it and laughed about it and let him eat and drink it.

Classic group bullying.

[Tom4784]

He's one of the more odious people they've put in the house. An awful human being that's only really being tolerated because of his looks. If he looked like James I doubt he'd have survived the last eviction. He's killing this series.

[the truth]

When will they ever understand one basic rule, ignore attention seekers and they soon run out of oxygen. This is literally all the housemates (other than the odious lewis, the selfish marnie and the brainless chloe) need to do. Let the moronic mob alone with their own juvenile thoughts. James whale is the man who must lead the revolt and he started well last night. As a group demand BB action. As a group totally blank them 100% of the time. BUT with a moronic bully like bear you have to pick your battles carefully. Ive noticed ricki has come in at the wrong time when bear is on a task or something, BAD move. Wait until he does something totally moronic like smash the house again or destroy food again. Bang wipe the floor with him , report to BB, then walk away and talk about anything other than this moron. There is something in the Bible about handling the devil, simply by ignoring him.

[kirklancaster]

He's one of the more odious people they've put in the house. An awful human being that's only really being tolerated because of his looks. If he looked like James I doubt he'd have survived the last eviction. He's killing this series.

:clap1::clap1::clap1: THAT is one brilliant thought Dezzie which did not occur to me, but is true though. I don't think he'd still be in there either if it wasn't for being a 'pretty boy' now that I think about it. It just all dovetails with the 'superficiality' of that bunch, which seems to please some people. And I agree that he is KILLING this show, and it is a shame.

[the truth]

Bear is NOT funny at all - He is a BULLYING YOB. It does not matter what 'funny voice' he affects - He is a BULLYING YOB, plain and simple.

If I want to watch ignorant, uncouth, bullies such as Bear and Bloor, I do NOT need to turn on my TV set, I can go into the City centre on any weekend at night or on any Bank Holiday during the daytime.

I am getting old, and have had just 5 fights in the past 4 years or so, and EVERY single time, it was not only with a Stephen Bear or Lewis Bloor, but also NOT at my instigation.

I was standing in quite a long cinema queue with my wife and two young nephews of 10 and 12 years old, and had been queuing for about 15 minutes, when Bear, Bloor and two other clones walked STRAIGHT to the front of the queue and pushed in.

The queue was a mixed one, with parents with young children, older people, and young couples, and one slightly built dad with a young girl of about 8 years old - who was at the front of the queue and had been directly jostled by Bear and Bloor and co - tried to protest, but got a load of abuse back from them for his troubles, and understandably, clammed up.

That was just before I shouted to them to get to the back of the queue.

I will not go into details, but they DID eventually go to the BACK of the queue.

I was in a busy town centre pub, again with my wife, and was waiting to be served at a bar. There were 3 other people - a young couple, and a young girl, who were waiting to be served at the bar before me, as well as others being served.

The barman serving customers at 'our' section of the bar was Stephen Bear.

Along with the three others who were waiting, I waited for over 10 minutes as gangs of other Stephen Bears kept pushing into the growing numbers of people joining the 'queue of customers wanting to be served, and WITHOUT FAIL, 'Bear the Barman' - who so obviously KNEW them, served them and ignored both my call and that of the three who were before me. The cheeky twat even looked at us as we tried to tell him that we were next then ignored us anyway.

After no joy trying to attract the attention of the other nearest barman - who DID seem to be serving customers in his section in order - I tried Bear again, but no joy, as he just looked, seemed to become annoyed and snapped at me to "wait", then continued laughing and chatting to his 'mates' as he served them.

This ended up with my grabbing him, dragging him half across the bar and telling him in my best 'French' what fate awaited him if he did not start serving quiet customers in the order of waiting time.

When I let him go, he summoned the bouncers, but was out of luck as the two that came knew me, and knew that I did not cause trouble, so after listening to what happened, they told him that he better start serving according to waiting time then left.

Bear came to me - all nice and sheepish now - apologised and asked me what drinks I wanted. He seemed genuinely shocked when I pointed to the young couple and the other girl - who were STILL waiting - and I said; "Those two first, then that girl, THEN me".

Stephen Bear is NOT entertaining in the slightest. He is nothing more than an egotistical, ignorant, selfish, BULLY - one of a rapidly growing number of Stephen Bears who are infesting society, and ruining the quality of life of other people by IMPOSING his WILL upon them without any regard for them, or their rights, or their wishes.

THEY are the ones who feel it is BENEATH them to queue with we ORDINARY citizens - whether it be outside a cinema, at a bar waiting to be served, or even at a shop cash out - THEY are the ones who, in NUMBERS -- NEVER alone -- walk straight to the front of the queue and push in.

THEY are the ones, who walk THROUGH people BARGING them aside, in crowded pubs, clubs, shops, or on city sidewalks. NOT for them, the careful negotiating AROUND elderly people, parents with young children, or even mere slow walkers, as we ORDINARY citizens do.

And we do NOT even have to SEE these ignorant twats to suffer from their crass bullying behaviour.

I HEAR them every week whether it is while I am sitting peacefully in my garden on a warm sunny Sunday afternoon or in my room late at night quietly reading, or listening to music, or watching TV.

THEY are the ones who spend long periods, REVVING UP their stationary 'souped up' motorcycles, and cars which have had the bafflers removed so that the sound is even more invasive and deafening.

THEY are the ones who let off FIREWORKS from 9pm to well into the early hours EVERY single weekend all year round now, with NO REGARD for other people, their sleeping babies and young children, or their terrified pet dogs.

THEY are the ones who SCREAM and SHOUT at the top of their drunken voices at 3 and 4am in the morning as they walk home through sleeping Housing Estates, with NO regard for other people.

THEY are also the ones who throw their empty beer bottles, cans and take-way wrappers over other people's garden fences, and the ones who piss up against the gable walls of other people's houses on their way home from the nightclubs and pubs.

Some of you on here, may try to tell me that you find Bear and Bloor's behaviour 'funny', and if that is what 'floats your boat', fair enough - it is a free country - but do NOT try to convince me that they are NOT bullies, because I have WITNESSED how these two ignorant twats, AND their vacuous molls, Marnie and Chloe, are imposing their antisocial, guttersnipe and aggressive behaviour upon the quieter, more decent and thoughtful members of the house, and I RECOGNISE how that is impairing the quality of their time in the house, stifling their rights to enjoy themselves, and intimidating them, and I CALL that BULLYING.
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They are boring bulllies, but emma willis who is a wolf in sheeps clothing , calls these types of people the strong characters, the entertaining characters and calls james whale the quiet characters who fly below the radar. code for viewers to keep the animals in there.......the days of actually showing actual conversation and anecdotes or learning about these peoples lives are long gone. all we get is morons throwing eggs and cakes and flashing their fake tits. big brother actively encourages and rewards this kind of behaviour?

[kirklancaster]

Very well said Kirk. I only wish I'd been in the queue with you when bear the barman got his comeuppance.:cheer2::cheer2:

Thank you Jenny. I nearly got arrested for fighting outside the cinema - well, we walked around the corner to a backstreet (while my wife saved my place in the queue :laugh:) but the cops found out what had transpired and let me off. I think I surprised the yob that an 'old man' could whup his ass. :laugh: They DID go to the back of the queue though.

Getting old is a bitch isn't it Jenny? :hee:

[chuff me dizzy]

Bear is NOT funny at all - He is a BULLYING YOB. It does not matter what 'funny voice' he affects - He is a BULLYING YOB, plain and simple.

If I want to watch ignorant, uncouth, bullies such as Bear and Bloor, I do NOT need to turn on my TV set, I can go into the City centre on any weekend at night or on any Bank Holiday during the daytime.

I am getting old, and have had just 5 fights in the past 4 years or so, and EVERY single time, it was not only with a Stephen Bear or Lewis Bloor, but also NOT at my instigation.

I was standing in quite a long cinema queue with my wife and two young nephews of 10 and 12 years old, and had been queuing for about 15 minutes, when Bear, Bloor and two other clones walked STRAIGHT to the front of the queue and pushed in.

The queue was a mixed one, with parents with young children, older people, and young couples, and one slightly built dad with a young girl of about 8 years old - who was at the front of the queue and had been directly jostled by Bear and Bloor and co - tried to protest, but got a load of abuse back from them for his troubles, and understandably, clammed up.

That was just before I shouted to them to get to the back of the queue.

I will not go into details, but they DID eventually go to the BACK of the queue.

I was in a busy town centre pub, again with my wife, and was waiting to be served at a bar. There were 3 other people - a young couple, and a young girl, who were waiting to be served at the bar before me, as well as others being served.

The barman serving customers at 'our' section of the bar was Stephen Bear.

Along with the three others who were waiting, I waited for over 10 minutes as gangs of other Stephen Bears kept pushing into the growing numbers of people joining the 'queue of customers wanting to be served, and WITHOUT FAIL, 'Bear the Barman' - who so obviously KNEW them, served them and ignored both my call and that of the three who were before me. The cheeky twat even looked at us as we tried to tell him that we were next then ignored us anyway.

After no joy trying to attract the attention of the other nearest barman - who DID seem to be serving customers in his section in order - I tried Bear again, but no joy, as he just looked, seemed to become annoyed and snapped at me to "wait", then continued laughing and chatting to his 'mates' as he served them.

This ended up with my grabbing him, dragging him half across the bar and telling him in my best 'French' what fate awaited him if he did not start serving quiet customers in the order of waiting time.

When I let him go, he summoned the bouncers, but was out of luck as the two that came knew me, and knew that I did not cause trouble, so after listening to what happened, they told him that he better start serving according to waiting time then left.

Bear came to me - all nice and sheepish now - apologised and asked me what drinks I wanted. He seemed genuinely shocked when I pointed to the young couple and the other girl - who were STILL waiting - and I said; "Those two first, then that girl, THEN me".

Stephen Bear is NOT entertaining in the slightest. He is nothing more than an egotistical, ignorant, selfish, BULLY - one of a rapidly growing number of Stephen Bears who are infesting society, and ruining the quality of life of other people by IMPOSING his WILL upon them without any regard for them, or their rights, or their wishes.

THEY are the ones who feel it is BENEATH them to queue with we ORDINARY citizens - whether it be outside a cinema, at a bar waiting to be served, or even at a shop cash out - THEY are the ones who, in NUMBERS -- NEVER alone -- walk straight to the front of the queue and push in.

THEY are the ones, who walk THROUGH people BARGING them aside, in crowded pubs, clubs, shops, or on city sidewalks. NOT for them, the careful negotiating AROUND elderly people, parents with young children, or even mere slow walkers, as we ORDINARY citizens do.

And we do NOT even have to SEE these ignorant twats to suffer from their crass bullying behaviour.

I HEAR them every week whether it is while I am sitting peacefully in my garden on a warm sunny Sunday afternoon or in my room late at night quietly reading, or listening to music, or watching TV.

THEY are the ones who spend long periods, REVVING UP their stationary 'souped up' motorcycles, and cars which have had the bafflers removed so that the sound is even more invasive and deafening.

THEY are the ones who let off FIREWORKS from 9pm to well into the early hours EVERY single weekend all year round now, with NO REGARD for other people, their sleeping babies and young children, or their terrified pet dogs.

THEY are the ones who SCREAM and SHOUT at the top of their drunken voices at 3 and 4am in the morning as they walk home through sleeping Housing Estates, with NO regard for other people.

THEY are also the ones who throw their empty beer bottles, cans and take-way wrappers over other people's garden fences, and the ones who piss up against the gable walls of other people's houses on their way home from the nightclubs and pubs.

Some of you on here, may try to tell me that you find Bear and Bloor's behaviour 'funny', and if that is what 'floats your boat', fair enough - it is a free country - but do NOT try to convince me that they are NOT bullies, because I have WITNESSED how these two ignorant twats, AND their vacuous molls, Marnie and Chloe, are imposing their antisocial, guttersnipe and aggressive behaviour upon the quieter, more decent and thoughtful members of the house, and I RECOGNISE how that is impairing the quality of their time in the house, stifling their rights to enjoy themselves, and intimidating them, and I CALL that BULLYING.
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Bit OTT fgs ,lighten up and enjoy the show

[kirklancaster]

They are boring bulllies, but emma willis who is a wolf in sheeps clothing , calls these types of people the strong characters, the entertaining characters and calls james whale the quiet characters who fly below the radar. code for viewers to keep the animals in there.......the days of actually showing actual conversation and anecdotes or learning about these peoples lives are long gone. all we get is morons throwing eggs and cakes and flashing their fake tits. big brother actively encourages and rewards this kind of behaviour?

That segment, Truth, when the four of them were doing all that is THE worst TV I have ever watched. The show has sunk to pandering to the lowest common denominators.

[mr rochester]

So sorry to hear of your experience Kirk. Thanks for sharing it. It helps to illustrate exactly what you are trying to get across. Why don't you write one of your brilliantly funny poems about it?

[kirklancaster]

Bit OTT fgs ,lighten up and enjoy the show

OTT - in whose universe. How can I ENJOY what I personally consider the glorification of loutish behaviour, the deliberate allowance of bullying of the other HM's, and the descent into YOB TV by what was once one of my favourite programmes?

If you enjoy this freak show of mindless yobs, then knock yourself out Chuff.

[kirklancaster]

So sorry to hear of your experience Kirk. Thanks for sharing it. It helps to illustrate exactly what you are trying to get across. Why don't you write one of your brilliantly funny poems about it?

Thanks Mr Rochester - I think I will do. :laugh: :wavey:

[mr rochester]

Thanks Mr Rochester - I think I will do. :laugh: :wavey:

Good man - look forward to reading it soon :wavey:

[Daniel.]

WOW Kirk im shook by that tea

[Northern Monkey]

But all these random strangers who you've encountered are just that.They are all different people.There is nothing to suggest that Bear goes into cinemas and pushes in front of everyone or lets fireworks off every weekend or revs up vehicle engines unless there are newspaper articles to suggest so.
I also refuse to believe that one annoying little twerp has managed to bully a full house full of grown adults.I mean he's not scary,He's not Mike Tyson.He's a skinny young lad with a big mouth.The people who entered the CBB house have put themselves in the situation where it was very likely they were going to encounter people who annoy them.He's not singled anyone out and relentlessly bullied them or spat in anyones food.He's just played a few pranks.

[Paula D]

When will they ever understand one basic rule, ignore attention seekers and they soon run out of oxygen. This is literally all the housemates (other than the odious lewis, the selfish marnie and the brainless chloe) need to do. Let the moronic mob alone with their own juvenile thoughts. James whale is the man who must lead the revolt and he started well last night. As a group demand BB action. As a group totally blank them 100% of the time. BUT with a moronic bully like bear you have to pick your battles carefully. Ive noticed ricki has come in at the wrong time when bear is on a task or something, BAD move. Wait until he does something totally moronic like smash the house again or destroy food again. Bang wipe the floor with him , report to BB, then walk away and talk about anything other than this moron. There is something in the Bible about handling the devil, simply by ignoring him.

Very very hard to ignore these yobs when they're disturbing your sleep. Sleep deprivation is a form of torture and this d**khead Bear knows it. Lewis is as bad. They were definitely bullying Heavy D last night and it was horrible to watch.

[fitz2k2]

I am not reading all that.there is no bullies in the house.nobody fears one another.fear is like someone gonna attack.bear wont hit anyone unless you hit hm back.that house is full of pussies.actually the biggest ones ever in cbb history,

[kirklancaster]

I am not reading all that.there is no bullies in the house.nobody fears one another.fear is like someone gonna attack.bear wont hit anyone unless you hit hm back.that house is full of pussies.actually the biggest ones ever in cbb history,

:laugh: Your first short sentence actually invalidates you from responding, because how can you have anything worthwhile to say in any response when you have NOT read the subject matter which you are now responding to.

By the way, this is a democratic forum - which is NOT run by Stephen Bear - so you are not being forced to read "all that". BYE.

[Cal.]

He's one of the more odious people they've put in the house. An awful human being that's only really being tolerated because of his looks. If he looked like James I doubt he'd have survived the last eviction. He's killing this series.

:clap1:

[Tom4784]

Bit OTT fgs ,lighten up and enjoy the show

As you are so keen on reminding people, Kirk is allowed his opinion. You're allowed to drag it for filth but if someone said to you what you just said to Kirk you'd probably post endlessly about how you're under attack for having an opinion so try to keep that in mind in future.

[jennyjuniper]

Thank you Jenny. I nearly got arrested for fighting outside the cinema - well, we walked around the corner to a backstreet (while my wife saved my place in the queue :laugh:) but the cops found out what had transpired and let me off. I think I surprised the yob that an 'old man' could whup his ass. :laugh: They DID go to the back of the queue though.

Getting old is a bitch isn't it Jenny? :hee:

Not while we can still kick ass Kirk.:laugh::laugh::cheer2:

[shaz20]

Kirk, nice post can we petition BB to put you in the house? please :laugh:

[Jan S]

The irony is they think their behaviour is 'socially acceptable' and 'normal' - yes, maybe on the beaches of Marbella, in Ibiza and Magaluf with the rest of the dreggs of society but not in a normal civilised world. Their lives are going down the drain when they hit their 30's and they are no longer relevant. Their only desirable skill will be being capable of sending out incoherent dumb tweets.i'm pretty happy to report that most younger people i know are nothing like these oafs; having said that, there is a definite thread of this sort of behaviour being seen as acceptable, and a lot of it's to do with people seeing this awful behaviour rewarded by celebhood - tv exposure and money.

aubrey doesn't get away with it, either, as her gobbing in his food and drink seemed nothing out of the ordinary to her until she realised she was being pulled for that behaviour.

He is a bully. He intimidates with the intention of controlling people. This is why he could not deal with the nominations for him and threw his toys out of the Pram...because he didn't have the control he thought he had. He then went on to threaten them with worse behaviour. He now doesn't like the fact that the housemates are ignoring him...because he has no control. It's going to wind him up if they keep it up...

It's the only way to deal with bullies like Bear....don't bite and give them what they want...just IGNORE the dickhead and watch him bite.
exactly... take away his control, watch him crumble.

When will they ever understand one basic rule, ignore attention seekers and they soon run out of oxygen. This is literally all the housemates (other than the odious lewis, the selfish marnie and the brainless chloe) need to do. Let the moronic mob alone with their own juvenile thoughts. James whale is the man who must lead the revolt and he started well last night. As a group demand BB action. As a group totally blank them 100% of the time. BUT with a moronic bully like bear you have to pick your battles carefully. Ive noticed ricki has come in at the wrong time when bear is on a task or something, BAD move. Wait until he does something totally moronic like smash the house again or destroy food again. Bang wipe the floor with him , report to BB, then walk away and talk about anything other than this moron. There is something in the Bible about handling the devil, simply by ignoring him.
that was such a shame - ricky stepped up and spoke up, but because it was a task bear can claim a sort of immunity.
Kirk, nice post can we petition BB to put you in the house? please :laugh:now that i'd like to see :D

[kirklancaster]

As you are so keen on reminding people, Kirk is allowed his opinion. You're allowed to drag it for filth but if someone said to you what you just said to Kirk you'd probably post endlessly about how you're under attack for having an opinion so try to keep that in mind in future.

:dance::dance::dance:Dezzy For Prime Minister. :cheer2: Thank you Dezzy.

[Cherie]

This ended up with my grabbing him, dragging him half across the bar and telling him in my best 'French' what fate awaited him if he did not start serving quiet customers in the order of waiting time.


:worry: isn't that assault Kirk, whatever happened to having a word with the bar manager and as for the cinema queue, if my OH left me in a queue to go outside to have a fight before we settled down to Finding Dory I'd divorce him :nono:

[Amy Jade]

Kirk posts like thsee are why you are a tibb fave :love:

[ThriceShy]

There has been only ONE incident of bullying in this series and that was when spit was placed in Bear's food and drink and people knew about it and kept it secret.

I can't think of a single other incident.

[chuff me dizzy]

There has been only ONE incident of bullying in this series and that was when spit was placed in Bear's food and drink and people knew about it and kept it secret.

I can't think of a single other incident.

:clap1: Seems folks are restless, they can no longer throw the race card or the homophobic card as Frankie may as well not even be in there,so they have gone for the bully card ......so predictable :bored: Im waiting for someone,anyone to point out ONE single bullying thing Bear has done

[Cherie]

:clap1: Seems folks are restless, they can no longer throw the race card or the homophobic card as Frankie may as well not even be in there,so they have gone for the bully card ......so predictable :bored: Im waiting for someone,anyone to point out ONE single bullying thing Bear has done


In fairness I can't, Lewis and Saira are the culprits there

[ThriceShy]

:clap1: Seems folks are restless, they can no longer throw the race card or the homophobic card as Frankie may as well not even be in there,so they have gone for the bully card ......so predictable :bored: Im waiting for someone,anyone to point out ONE single bullying thing Bear has done

I have set this challenge before and nobody has ever come up with an answer.

Bear has bullied nobody. I don't think even the housemates are claiming that he is a bully. He just annoys them.

[chuff me dizzy]

In fairness I can't, Lewis and Saira are the culprits there

Saira definitely was the worst towards Chloe ,remind me what Lewis has done as Ive been decorating all day and my mind is in a muddle :joker:

[chuff me dizzy]

I have set this challenge before and nobody has ever come up with an answer.

Bear has bullied nobody. I don't think even the housemates are claiming that he is a bully. He just annoys them.

I wonder why that is ?

[Cherie]

Saira definitely was the worst towards Chloe ,remind me what Lewis has done as Ive been decorating all day and my mind is in a muddle :joker:

Lewis making Heavy beg for half a glass of wine, and generally being nasty in the bedroom last night

[chuff me dizzy]

Lewis making Heavy beg for half a glass of wine, and generally being nasty in the bedroom last night

Right, I think he just wanted D to say thank you and please I would have done exactly the same in that case ,as manners cost nothing ....Im not Lewis's biggest fan,but he's by far not the worst in there IMO

[kirklancaster]

This ended up with my grabbing him, dragging him half across the bar and telling him in my best 'French' what fate awaited him if he did not start serving quiet customers in the order of waiting time.


:worry: isn't that assault Kirk, whatever happened to having a word with the bar manager and as for the cinema queue, if my OH left me in a queue to go outside to have a fight before we settled down to Finding Dory I'd divorce him :nono:

Yes, it is assault Cherie, but I did not go into detail of all what was said and I did not hurt him. I do not regret it and would do exactly the same again.

As for the cinema queue; I told them to leave the father with the young kid alone and that they should get in the queue like the rest of us. It was the big steroid Jack who started the abuse and threats by calling me an 'old Chink' or words to that effect, and telling me what he would do if I didn't shut the feck up, or words to that effect.

My wife KNEW what was about to happen when I slipped off my watch and gave it to her.

HE - no - THEY (two of them) came up to me.

It really was, fight in front of all the little kids in the queue and expose them to violence - something I would NEVER do - get beat up, or oblige big mouth, and go around the corner with him.

I also allowed him to throw the first punch at me.

I know that I could have kept my mouth shut and just let them push in, but I cannot. Even now, I would still say something.

I once got my cheekbone broke though jumping in to save a young Pakistani lad who was being beaten up by three yobs after a football game, and I would do exactly the same there as well. (It turned out the 'lad' was not so young and was a junior doctor).

Sorry if this make me a yob in some people's eyes, but I can only be truthful.

[kirklancaster]

I have set this challenge before and nobody has ever come up with an answer.

Bear has bullied nobody. I don't think even the housemates are claiming that he is a bully. He just annoys them.

Your ridiculous challenge has been answered by many honest members - including myself in the Opening Post - it is just that you choose to ignore the responses because they do not dovetail with your set views.

[chuff me dizzy]

Your ridiculous challenge has been answered by many honest members - including myself in the Opening Post - it is just that you choose to ignore the responses because they do not dovetail with your set views.

Have you answered my question and told me exactly who and how Bear has bullied someone ? not your idea of who, just the facts please

[kirklancaster]

Have you answered my question and told me exactly who and how Bear has bullied someone ? not your idea of who, just the facts please

:facepalm: My reasons for decreeing him a bully have been detailed in my Opening Post.

The FACTS are irrefutable - his conduct has been witnessed by millions of TV Viewers .

What YOUR problem is Chuff, is that YOU personally do not regard his atrocious anti-social behaviour as bullying.

Someone does NOT have to be physically beaten up to be bullied, there are many forms of bullying - including imposing one's will upon others even when it is causing them mental or emotional stress and impairing their rights to enjoy their own lives when by doing so they are NOT harming or OFFENDING anyone else.

Wasting communal food, stealing communal food, and taking more than one's FAIR share of communal food is BULLYING, because it is taking unfair advantage of others because they are weaker, more moderate, more timid, or more averse to confrontation than you are.

I too posed a question to all Bear fans, and that is would he STILL behave in the same manner - being himself as one 'fan' on here put it - if Mike Tyson, Anthony Joshua, Gennady Golovkin etc were the 'OTHER' HM's?

I am STILL waiting for THAT question to be answered. YOUR question HAS been answered MANY TIMES on here.

[ThriceShy]

:facepalm: My reasons for decreeing him a bully have been detailed in my Opening Post.

The FACTS are irrefutable - his conduct has been witnessed by millions of TV Viewers .

What YOUR problem is Chuff, is that YOU personally do not regard his atrocious anti-social behaviour as bullying.

Someone does NOT have to be physically beaten up to be bullied, there are many forms of bullying - including imposing one's will upon others even when it is causing them mental or emotional stress and impairing their rights to enjoy their own lives when by doing so they are NOT harming or OFFENDING anyone else.

Wasting communal food, stealing communal food, and taking more than one's FAIR share of communal food is BULLYING, because it is taking unfair advantage of others because they are weaker, more moderate, more timid, or more averse to confrontation than you are.

I too posed a question to all Bear fans, and that is would he STILL behave in the same manner - being himself as one 'fan' on here put it - if Mike Tyson, Anthony Joshua, Gennady Golovkin etc were the 'OTHER' HM's?

I am STILL waiting for THAT question to be answered. YOUR question HAS been answered MANY TIMES on here.

Do you think spitting in someone's food and a group keeping it secret and laughing about it is bullying?

[kirklancaster]

Kirk posts like thsee are why you are a tibb fave :love:

Thank you A.J. - as long as some of you love me, that's all that really matters. :kiss:

[waylander1973]

I am not reading all that.there is no bullies in the house.nobody fears one another.fear is like someone gonna attack.bear wont hit anyone unless you hit hm back.that house is full of pussies.actually the biggest ones ever in cbb history,

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=306845

How this then, Lewis openly admits 'The Sqaud' are purposely antagonising/offending/bullying others. - TODAY JAMES IS THE TARGET.

Then, james has to put up them touching him even though he asked them to back off, no big brother help - they let it happen, so he pour coffee on bear to get them away.

Sorry that is bullying.

[ScottyT]

Do you think spitting in someone's food and a group keeping it secret and laughing about it is bullying?

It sure is but it's just deserts for Bear.

[kirklancaster]

Do you think spitting in someone's food and a group keeping it secret and laughing about it is bullying?

Well, taken in the context of Bear's boorish conduct having - from Day One - RELENTLESSLY adversely affected ALL the other HM's, save his lapdog Bloor and their two molls, while Aubrey's action, and the 'others' keeping stum about it, was an isolated, one-off incident, I would have to say NO.

It was wrong of any HM's who did KNOW about the incident NOT to tell Bear or try to dissuade Aubrey from actually serving it to him, and it was disgusting of Aubrey to spit in Bears food and drink, BUT, they all DID have mitigating reasons.

In addition, the fact that Bear DID NOT KNOW about the incident at the time it was being executed, did NOT cause him any of the emotional or mental stress which he has been inflicting upon the 'others', and the fact that soon after he had discovered all about the incident, he invited Aubrey to spit DIRECTLY into his open mouth THREE more times, suggests that he did not suffer emotional or mental stress AFTER the event either.

Given ALL the circumstances, and with Bear 'legitimising' Aubrey's 'Spitgate' incident, I would have to reach a verdict that neither the actions of Aubrey or the 'others' constitute 'Bullying' but more 'Understandable Reactionary Retribution'.

[Amy Jade]

Have you answered my question and told me exactly who and how Bear has bullied someone ? not your idea of who, just the facts please

He answered it in the OP :elephant:

[kirklancaster]

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=306845

How this then, Lewis openly admits 'The Sqaud' are purposely antagonising/offending/bullying others. - TODAY JAMES IS THE TARGET.

Then, james has to put up them touching him even though he asked them to back off, no big brother help - they let it happen, so he pour coffee on bear to get them away.

Sorry that is bullying.

:laugh: BRILLIANT Waylander. :clap1::clap1::clap1:

[Jamie89]

Well, taken in the context of Bear's boorish conduct having - from Day One - RELENTLESSLY adversely affected ALL the other HM's, save his lapdog Bloor and their two molls, while Aubrey's action, and the 'others' keeping stum about it, was an isolated, one-off incident, I would have to say NO.

It was wrong of any HM's who did KNOW about the incident NOT to tell Bear or try to dissuade Aubrey from actually serving it to him, and it was disgusting of Aubrey to spit in Bears food and drink, BUT, they all DID have mitigating reasons.

In addition, the fact that Bear DID NOT KNOW about the incident at the time it was being executed, did NOT cause him any of the emotional or mental stress which he has been inflicting upon the 'others', and the fact that soon after he had discovered all about the incident, he invited Aubrey's spit DIRECTLY into his open mouth THREE more times, suggests that he did not suffer emotional or mental stress AFTER the event either.

Given ALL the circumstances, and with Bear 'legitimising' Aubrey's 'Spitgate' incident, I would have to reach a verdict that neither the actions of Aubrey or the 'others' constitute 'Bullying' but more 'Understandable Reactionary Retribution'.
:clap1: I agree. The spitting was gross but it wasn't a 'repeated behaviour'. Bullying isn't just doing something bad, or a competition for who's done the single worst act, it's about sustained intimidating behaviour... hasn't Bear even admitted as much with some of his comments?

[Garfie]

Well, taken in the context of Bear's boorish conduct having - from Day One - RELENTLESSLY adversely affected ALL the other HM's, save his lapdog Bloor and their two molls, while Aubrey's action, and the 'others' keeping stum about it, was an isolated, one-off incident, I would have to say NO.

It was wrong of any HM's who did KNOW about the incident NOT to tell Bear or try to dissuade Aubrey from actually serving it to him, and it was disgusting of Aubrey to spit in Bears food and drink, BUT, they all DID have mitigating reasons.

In addition, the fact that Bear DID NOT KNOW about the incident at the time it was being executed, did NOT cause him any of the emotional or mental stress which he has been inflicting upon the 'others', and the fact that soon after he had discovered all about the incident, he invited Aubrey to spit DIRECTLY into his open mouth THREE more times, suggests that he did not suffer emotional or mental stress AFTER the event either.

Given ALL the circumstances, and with Bear 'legitimising' Aubrey's 'Spitgate' incident, I would have to reach a verdict that neither the actions of Aubrey or the 'others' constitute 'Bullying' but more 'Understandable Reactionary Retribution'.

:clap1::clap1:

[Tom4784]

He is the male Helen, targets people to get a reaction out of them and then makes them out to be the bad guy while chipping away at them. It's a classic bullying tactic.

I don't really see how anyone can warp events so much to make out that Bear is a victim. Him, Chloe, Marnie and Lewis are bullies. There's no argument to be had here. It's plain as day.

[Braden]

I've actually stopped watching this series but I don't even care to say that this is literally how ridiculous the people who support him are:

(Bear torments his housemates and provokes reaction)
Bear supporters: Oh my god! He is so hilarious! He's winding the housemates up so much it's so ****ing funny. Entertaining beyond belief!

(Housemate - Renee, for example - reacts to Bear's behaviour)
Bears supporters: Oh my god! How ridiculous is Renee! Why is she acting like that?! She fancies him, that must be the reason!

Literally. So. Tiring. I feel sorry for the people who are sticking with this :p

[Garfie]

Repeatedly forum members have expressed and explained their views, and given evidence to illustrate and support them. Why the constant demand that people jump through hoops and explain themselves over and over again?

The explanations and answers some are demanding are expressed here repeatedly within this thread, and in numerous other threads!! How many times does the same debate need to take place?

Like Bear, it is tediously boring!

The problem here is that some are repeatedly refusing to hear the explanations they are asking for, or are somehow failing to understand or absorb what is being clearly explained!

[Garfie]

I've actually stopped watching this series but I don't even care to say that this is literally how ridiculous the people who support him are:

(Bear torments his housemates and provokes reaction)
Bear supporters: Oh my god! He is so hilarious! He's winding the housemates up so much it's so ****ing funny. Entertaining beyond belief!

(Housemate - Renee, for example - reacts to Bear's behaviour)
Bears supporters: Oh my god! How ridiculous is Renee! Why is she acting like that?! She fancies him, that must be the reason!

Literally. So. Tiring. I feel sorry for the people who are sticking with this :p

:clap1::clap1::clap1:

There's no point in responding to this sort of thing, Braden, as no meaningful discussion or debate can take place! I've chosen to just respond to posts that merit a response and have decided to see the funny side of these sort of ridiculous comments.

[Braden]

:clap1::clap1::clap1:

There's no point in responding to this sort of thing, Braden, as no meaningful discussion or debate can take place! I've chosen to just respond to posts that merit a response and have decided to see the funny side of this sort of ridiculous comments.

You're so right, Garfie. I'm glad that I'm not paying that much attention to the series anymore because I can gloss over most of posts that just make me want to shake my computer screen :p

[BB247]

I hate how people think that bullying is exclusive to children. Of course adults can bully others. Bear is bullying.

The thread will inevitably become full of "ergh not the B word again" and to those people, look up a definition of bullying first.

And Renee is about to bully Chloe viciously

[Pete.]

Wow Kirk :clap1:

[ThriceShy]

Well, taken in the context of Bear's boorish conduct having - from Day One - RELENTLESSLY adversely affected ALL the other HM's, save his lapdog Bloor and their two molls, while Aubrey's action, and the 'others' keeping stum about it, was an isolated, one-off incident, I would have to say NO.

It was wrong of any HM's who did KNOW about the incident NOT to tell Bear or try to dissuade Aubrey from actually serving it to him, and it was disgusting of Aubrey to spit in Bears food and drink, BUT, they all DID have mitigating reasons.

In addition, the fact that Bear DID NOT KNOW about the incident at the time it was being executed, did NOT cause him any of the emotional or mental stress which he has been inflicting upon the 'others', and the fact that soon after he had discovered all about the incident, he invited Aubrey to spit DIRECTLY into his open mouth THREE more times, suggests that he did not suffer emotional or mental stress AFTER the event either.

Given ALL the circumstances, and with Bear 'legitimising' Aubrey's 'Spitgate' incident, I would have to reach a verdict that neither the actions of Aubrey or the 'others' constitute 'Bullying' but more 'Understandable Reactionary Retribution'.

Wow. Biased much?:joker:

[Withano]

Wow. Biased much?:joker:

It isnt biased at all, its the conclusion that the objective viewers have came to

[ThriceShy]

It isnt biased at all, its the conclusion that the objective viewers have came to

There is not an objective life form in the multiverse that would conclude that a group conspiring to give someone food with spit in, is just a harmless one-off act of retaliation.

Dennis was ejected. They should have been too. It was a criminal assault and vile organised bullying.

At the point she spat in his food, what had he actually done to her? What was she even retaliating to?

[Ian Coke]

He's one of the more odious people they've put in the house. An awful human being that's only really being tolerated because of his looks. If he looked like James I doubt he'd have survived the last eviction. He's killing this series.

I don't know. Stephen Bear is this year's Perez Hilton; someone who, through relentless attention-seeking, has managed to wind up the rest of the house to the point where, whether they love him or hate him, they can't think about anything else. With his silly goats face and receding hairline, Perez Hilton is not a handsome guy, so I'm not sure Bear's success, thus far, can be entirely ascribed to his looks.

[letmein]

Britain has a think for coddling its masses like infants. Enough with the bullying nonsense. Grow some balls.

[Maru]

Sad to say I have not posted as much this series because it's in such bad shape. What's there to say really? Half the people getting camera time are about as deep as a puddle. :shrug:

Kirk, you are so right about Bear. For me, my local Bear are the idiots on the street corner firing off fireworks and "neighbors" firing off weapons in the woods at odd hours of the day. You can't say anything, they will make your life a living hell. There are several in the neighborhood. I have another neighbor whose hoodlums have physically threatened her, called her job and tried to get her fired after she called the cops on them for a noise complaint.

I took my dog, who is a rescue, for a walk for the first time in many months while I was working on her anxiety and she flipped out when they started with the fireworks. Thankfully I had a good grip or she would've ended up running through 5pm traffic. Now I'm having to look at the possibility of medicating her and am having to take other measures to work on her. My other neighborhood was quieter and we used to walk every single for several miles. The idiot kids popping off fireworks, having to walk the dogs around broken beer bottles, slamming sticks and throwing rocks at other animals. She has very bad memories of this type of abuse and it terrifies her. It's a nice suburb otherwise, but can't wait until school is back on and summer is over... at least it will get rid of some of it.

[kirklancaster]

Sad to say I have not posted as much this series because it's in such bad shape. What's there to say really? Half the people getting camera time are about as deep as a puddle. :shrug:

Kirk, you are so right about Bear. For me, my local Bear are the idiots on the street corner firing off fireworks and "neighbors" firing off weapons in the woods at odd hours of the day. You can't say anything, they will make your life a living hell. There are several in the neighborhood. I have another neighbor whose hoodlums have physically threatened her, called her job and tried to get her fired after she called the cops on them for a noise complaint.

I took my dog, who is a rescue, for a walk for the first time in many months while I was working on her anxiety and she flipped out when they started with the fireworks. Thankfully I had a good grip or she would've ended up running through 5pm traffic. Now I'm having to look at the possibility of medicating her and am having to take other measures to work on her. My other neighborhood was quieter and we used to walk every single for several miles. The idiot kids popping off fireworks, having to walk the dogs around broken beer bottles, slamming sticks and throwing rocks at other animals. She has very bad memories of this type of abuse and it terrifies her. It's a nice suburb otherwise, but can't wait until school is back on and summer is over... at least it will get rid of some of it.

Thank you Maru - I am sorry to hear that you experience a similar type of anti-socialism to the one I have written about.

I love your posts Maru - keep them coming.

One question Maru - When you come onto a thread late, do you read all the posts on it from the beginning?

I always do, and I just wondered if I was strange. :laugh:

:wavey: Give my regards to that hard working husband of yours. I thought that there was only idiotic me who worked those type of hours.

[Maru]

Thank you Maru - I am sorry to hear that you experience a similar type of anti-socialism to the one I have written about.

I love your posts Maru - keep them coming.

One question Maru - When you come onto a thread late, do you read all the posts on it from the beginning?

I always do, and I just wondered if I was strange. :laugh:

:wavey: Give my regards to that hard working husband of yours. I thought that there was only idiotic me who worked those type of hours.

Yes, even if it's 10+ pages. If it's a good discussion, I will read and occasionally reply. It can't be helped if I reply late though between the timezone and life. Sometimes I don't get to BBUK until the evening so not only do I have to find a torrent, download, catch up but then also spend the evening necro-ing a full day of threads.

Sometimes it feels like I'm coming to work with the zombie crew here at night to resurrect all the dead threads. :laugh: Sucks too when I have actual insomnia.

I was so angry at those kids the other day. I wanted to go to their door and throw a tiff (which I'm good at doing), but what would it accomplish?

When I have time to do the work, I'm thinking of reaching out to the HOA to get them a new website and fix their networking issues. Maybe THEN we can also work on raising fees so can also get the second sheriff patrol in our neighborhood to scare the **** out of them.

We had nearly full time patrol in my other neighborhood and they caught a break-in in progress (my husband was jogging nearby when it happened). Of course we call them whenever we see anything suspicious and they come by a few minutes later and take down information. There are a lot of people here voluntarily offer information when kids are acting out, running the neighborhood. That's the way it should be.

My own victory story. This was before my husband took his job. I dropped my phone one day from my pocket (a super cheap phone with a busted screen on the outside of no real value). Whoever picked it up decided to use it as their free phone service. Well that was the worst day of their life. I had a pin code on my sim so they only could call on whatever battery power was left. I went through my call logs and started to call the numbers they called. Had a very long conversation with the adult of the household about the "friend" her kids were talking to. She didn't have an address, but I found the first number and common sense dictates they're calling a landline to test the phone. So I white paged it, go figure, it's in the same apartment complex.

I called the police, gave them the number and address. (He came at 1am to take the report, I was shocked and thought very dedicated) He came back about an hour later with my phone. He said that the address wasn't quite correct, but he took the name and found the correct one in his laptop and woke the supposed grandmother up to tell her all about her grandson's activities. He said he gave him a rash of **** (his words), talked to him about his life choices and gave him the verbal reality check of his life. He had tried to put my sim card in his phone to continue making calls and I know this because the sim was locked out. Hopefully now he's a turned a new leaf. (Yeah.. right)

I found a few pictures of him taking gangsta selfies of himself. You could tell he was a smug one. No doubt he sent those to his friends who now think he is a tool per their mom. Had a good long laugh at the ridiculous pictures, sanitized my phone, deleted the pictures, and then went on about with my business. :laugh:

T-mobile had a good long laugh too when I called them to unlock my sim and told them my story.

We gotta get 'em when they're young before they turn to grown Bears.

[chuff me dizzy]

And Renee is about to bully Chloe viciously

:clap1:

[kirklancaster]

Yes, even if it's 10+ pages. If it's a good discussion, I will read and occasionally reply. It can't be helped if I reply late though between the timezone and life. Sometimes I don't get to BBUK until the evening so not only do I have to find a torrent, download, catch up but then also spend the evening necro-ing a full day of threads.

Sometimes it feels like I'm coming to work with the zombie crew here at night to resurrect all the dead threads. :laugh: Sucks too when I have actual insomnia.

I was so angry at those kids the other day. I wanted to go to their door and throw a tiff (which I'm good at doing), but what would it accomplish?

When I have time to do the work, I'm thinking of reaching out to the HOA to get them a new website and fix their networking issues. Maybe THEN we can also work on raising fees so can also get the second sheriff patrol in our neighborhood to scare the **** out of them.

We had nearly full time patrol in my other neighborhood and they caught a break-in in progress (my husband was jogging nearby when it happened). Of course we call them whenever we see anything suspicious and they come by a few minutes later and take down information. There are a lot of people here voluntarily offer information when kids are acting out, running the neighborhood. That's the way it should be.

My own victory story. This was before my husband took his job. I dropped my phone one day from my pocket (a super cheap phone with a busted screen on the outside of no real value). Whoever picked it up decided to use it as their free phone service. Well that was the worst day of their life. I had a pin code on my sim so they only could call on whatever battery power was left. I went through my call logs and started to call the numbers they called. Had a very long conversation with the adult of the household about the "friend" her kids were talking to. She didn't have an address, but I found the first number and common sense dictates they're calling a landline to test the phone. So I white paged it, go figure, it's in the same apartment complex.

I called the police, gave them the number and address. (He came at 1am to take the report, I was shocked and thought very dedicated) He came back about an hour later with my phone. He said that the address wasn't quite correct, but he took the name and found the correct one in his laptop and woke the supposed grandmother up to tell her all about her grandson's activities. He said he gave him a rash of **** (his words), talked to him about his life choices and gave him the verbal reality check of his life. He had tried to put my sim card in his phone to continue making calls and I know this because the sim was locked out. Hopefully now he's a turned a new leaf. (Yeah.. right)

I found a few pictures of him taking gangsta selfies of himself. You could tell he was a smug one. No doubt he sent those to his friends who now think he is a tool per their mom. Had a good long laugh at the ridiculous pictures, sanitized my phone, deleted the pictures, and then went on about with my business. :laugh:

T-mobile had a good long laugh too when I called them to unlock my sim and told them my story.

We gotta get 'em when they're young before they turn to grown Bears.

I love reading your posts Maru, and you are correct - like garden plants, pets, virtually every organic living thing - training or remedial work really is most effective when they are young.

"Give me a child until he is seven, and I will give you the man" - Aristotle.

[ScottyT]

There is not an objective life form in the multiverse that would conclude that a group conspiring to give someone food with spit in, is just a harmless one-off act of retaliation.

Dennis was ejected. They should have been too. It was a criminal assault and vile organised bullying.

At the point she spat in his food, what had he actually done to her? What was she even retaliating to?

Bear is a smart bully. While he doesn't do anything that constitutes as 'classic' bullying he targets people through harassment by winding them up, and putting themselves in uncomfortable situations constantly, it's like mental abuse, and he does it non-stop all whilst walking away scott free because it's not your traditional calling someone a '****' or 'punching someone in the face'. That's what makes Bear even more slimy.

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Bear is NOT funny at all - He is a BULLYING YOB. It does not matter what 'funny voice' he affects - He is a BULLYING YOB, plain and simple.

If I want to watch ignorant, uncouth, bullies such as Bear and Bloor, I do NOT need to turn on my TV set, I can go into the City centre on any weekend at night or on any Bank Holiday during the daytime.

I am getting old, and have had just 5 fights in the past 4 years or so, and EVERY single time, it was not only with a Stephen Bear or Lewis Bloor, but also NOT at my instigation.

I was standing in quite a long cinema queue with my wife and two young nephews of 10 and 12 years old, and had been queuing for about 15 minutes, when Bear, Bloor and two other clones walked STRAIGHT to the front of the queue and pushed in.

The queue was a mixed one, with parents with young children, older people, and young couples, and one slightly built dad with a young girl of about 8 years old - who was at the front of the queue and had been directly jostled by Bear and Bloor and co - tried to protest, but got a load of abuse back from them for his troubles, and understandably, clammed up.

That was just before I shouted to them to get to the back of the queue.

I will not go into details, but they DID eventually go to the BACK of the queue.

I was in a busy town centre pub, again with my wife, and was waiting to be served at a bar. There were 3 other people - a young couple, and a young girl, who were waiting to be served at the bar before me, as well as others being served.

The barman serving customers at 'our' section of the bar was Stephen Bear.

Along with the three others who were waiting, I waited for over 10 minutes as gangs of other Stephen Bears kept pushing into the growing numbers of people joining the 'queue of customers wanting to be served, and WITHOUT FAIL, 'Bear the Barman' - who so obviously KNEW them, served them and ignored both my call and that of the three who were before me. The cheeky twat even looked at us as we tried to tell him that we were next then ignored us anyway.

After no joy trying to attract the attention of the other nearest barman - who DID seem to be serving customers in his section in order - I tried Bear again, but no joy, as he just looked, seemed to become annoyed and snapped at me to "wait", then continued laughing and chatting to his 'mates' as he served them.

This ended up with my grabbing him, dragging him half across the bar and telling him in my best 'French' what fate awaited him if he did not start serving quiet customers in the order of waiting time.

When I let him go, he summoned the bouncers, but was out of luck as the two that came knew me, and knew that I did not cause trouble, so after listening to what happened, they told him that he better start serving according to waiting time then left.

Bear came to me - all nice and sheepish now - apologised and asked me what drinks I wanted. He seemed genuinely shocked when I pointed to the young couple and the other girl - who were STILL waiting - and I said; "Those two first, then that girl, THEN me".

Stephen Bear is NOT entertaining in the slightest. He is nothing more than an egotistical, ignorant, selfish, BULLY - one of a rapidly growing number of Stephen Bears who are infesting society, and ruining the quality of life of other people by IMPOSING his WILL upon them without any regard for them, or their rights, or their wishes.

THEY are the ones who feel it is BENEATH them to queue with we ORDINARY citizens - whether it be outside a cinema, at a bar waiting to be served, or even at a shop cash out - THEY are the ones who, in NUMBERS -- NEVER alone -- walk straight to the front of the queue and push in.

THEY are the ones, who walk THROUGH people BARGING them aside, in crowded pubs, clubs, shops, or on city sidewalks. NOT for them, the careful negotiating AROUND elderly people, parents with young children, or even mere slow walkers, as we ORDINARY citizens do.

And we do NOT even have to SEE these ignorant twats to suffer from their crass bullying behaviour.

I HEAR them every week whether it is while I am sitting peacefully in my garden on a warm sunny Sunday afternoon or in my room late at night quietly reading, or listening to music, or watching TV.

THEY are the ones who spend long periods, REVVING UP their stationary 'souped up' motorcycles, and cars which have had the bafflers removed so that the sound is even more invasive and deafening.

THEY are the ones who let off FIREWORKS from 9pm to well into the early hours EVERY single weekend all year round now, with NO REGARD for other people, their sleeping babies and young children, or their terrified pet dogs.

THEY are the ones who SCREAM and SHOUT at the top of their drunken voices at 3 and 4am in the morning as they walk home through sleeping Housing Estates, with NO regard for other people.

THEY are also the ones who throw their empty beer bottles, cans and take-way wrappers over other people's garden fences, and the ones who piss up against the gable walls of other people's houses on their way home from the nightclubs and pubs.

Some of you on here, may try to tell me that you find Bear and Bloor's behaviour 'funny', and if that is what 'floats your boat', fair enough - it is a free country - but do NOT try to convince me that they are NOT bullies, because I have WITNESSED how these two ignorant twats, AND their vacuous molls, Marnie and Chloe, are imposing their antisocial, guttersnipe and aggressive behaviour upon the quieter, more decent and thoughtful members of the house, and I RECOGNISE how that is impairing the quality of their time in the house, stifling their rights to enjoy themselves, and intimidating them, and I CALL that BULLYING.
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