Bear rolling his eyes at Sam & her mum

[Pete.]

What a tragic man

[Adamw92]

Heartless, unfeeling little prick.

[Samm]

Hate him so much

[Pete.]

Then crying when HIS ex walked in?

[south12345]

No respect....no conscience..

[Jan S]

Then crying when HIS ex walked in?
only for himself, not for the pain he caused her.

in case anyone's missed it, he has NO EMPATHY for anyone else. he doesn't see them as the same as him, in fact he doesn't really see them as people, just things he can use. it's why he can behave as he does. he has no conscience.

[Jan S]

is it a prerequisite of being a 'reality star' to have no self awareness?

and marnie, who gives a **** about his bit of gristle?

[lewis111]

He's a vile human
They way he treated Lily was awful

[Jan S]

yeah, ricky, but you're misinterpreting his reasons - he was being thwarted by her and bb

[Jan S]

lolol poorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr bear. like *******

[Pete.]

Jan S :clap1:

[Jan S]

damn, he can't help himself ... that last calculating look from hooded eyes :facepalm:
and what's worse is some will fall on their knees and eat his **** up. and come back for more!

[lewis111]

A small percentage of people are still trying to defend him on FB by saying like

Don't trust everything that fame hungry ex says
And
Well he's still the most entertaining

[Jake.]

one of the most self centred humans ever to exist

[caprimint]

Like Marnie is 'blinded by love', people can also be blinded by hate when they are fixated on disliking a particular housemate.

[Northern Monkey]

I still can't get over "aim gwing to see memmy!" from pissed up Sam.
Also it was pretty cringe.I rolled my eyes too

[Cherie]

I still can't get over "aim gwing to see memmy!" from pissed up Sam.
Also it was pretty cringe.I rolled my eyes too

Must admit I did also :laugh: if she's that desperate she can go tomorrow

[susie q]

I beginning to think that Bear could do serious harm to someone and he would still find a way to blame them. Whatsmore people on the forums would still support him, and vote for him.

[ebandit]

...too right..no place in the house for HMs mothers...

Mark L

[Cherie]

...too right..no place in the house for HMs mothers...

Mark L

Katie trying to get in on the action wondering if her Mum would come in and our Sam blanking her :laugh:

[Jan S]

Like Marnie is 'blinded by love', people can also be blinded by hate when they are fixated on disliking a particular housemate.

disliking him for the personality he's not just displayed but flaunted doesn't equate to being fixated on him. personal experience with my ex (the genuine real deal psychopath) means i recognise bear's calculating ways, his self-serving charm, his use of others as objects. and so do many others recognise it because it's damned obvious.

[Withano]

Like Marnie is 'blinded by love', people can also be blinded by hate when they are fixated on disliking a particular housemate.

Or maybe a couple bear fans are blinded by love too :suspect:

[Pete.]

Like Marnie is 'blinded by love', people can also be blinded by hate when they are fixated on disliking a particular housemate.
Wow *rushes to save Bear*

[Withano]

Sun reporting that not only is he the lowest paid of the season, hes the lowest paid ever

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/1634675/celebrity-big-brothers-stephen-bear-is-the-lowest-paid-housemate-on-12000/?CMP=spklr-_-Editorial-_-FBPAGE-_-TheSun-thesun-_-20160818-_-Showbiz&TV-_-548331845

Wasnt sure if it deserved its own thread

[Pete.]

Sun reporting that not only is he the lowest paid of the season, hes the lowest paid ever

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/1634675/celebrity-big-brothers-stephen-bear-is-the-lowest-paid-housemate-on-12000/?CMP=spklr-_-Editorial-_-FBPAGE-_-TheSun-thesun-_-20160818-_-Showbiz&TV-_-548331845

Wasnt sure if it deserved its own thread
Poor him even Bruce Jones was paid more :joker:

[Withano]

His odds to leave first tomorrow have shortened from ~33/1 to ~10/1 too.

Wasnt sure if that deserved its own thread either

[power2thepeople]

His odds to leave first tomorrow have shortened from ~33/1 to ~10/1 too.

Wasnt sure if that deserved its own thread either

Withano it surely does. :dance:

[Cherie]

Ooh that's low :hee:

[user104658]

Buckled that people think Bear fans will give a crap about him being a dick to his girlfriend :joker:. Methinks some may have missed the point... People don't like bear because the bethink he's nice.

Also... A middle aged women still hanging from mummy's apron strings is pretty much THE most tragic thing I can imagine.

[Withano]

Also... A middle aged women still hanging from mummy's apron strings is pretty much THE most tragic thing I can imagine.

I couldn't disagree more.

[user104658]

I couldn't disagree more.
OK Norman.

[Lostie!]

Buckled that people think Bear fans will give a crap about him being a dick to his girlfriend :joker:. Methinks some may have missed the point... People don't like bear because the bethink he's nice.

Also... A middle aged women still hanging from mummy's apron strings is pretty much THE most tragic thing I can imagine.

You mustn't be able to imagine very much then.

[BBUK2016]

Well bear is a self centred human being. But I couldn't help but laugh at the look on his face when lilie entered... But at the end of the day, he was the one who cheated on her with Chloe Khan. The public are keeping him in because he is controversial and bound to cause drama though. And now he is favourite to win..

[user104658]

You mustn't be able to imagine very much then.
People who can't let go of mummy when they are pushing 50 will inevitably implode when dear old mum kicks the bucket. No idea how to exist without parental input and validation. It IS tragic. I'll bet she's been heavily involved in "guiding " (pushing) her career, too.

[BBUK2016]

And now he is favourite to win
(Apparently) that's what i read

[Withano]

People who can't let go of mummy when they are pushing 50 will inevitably implode when dear old mum kicks the bucket. No idea how to exist without parental input. It IS tragic. I'll bet she's been heavily involved in "guiding " (pushing) her career, too.

Youre assuming the mother is looking after the daughter and it is entirely probable that the opposite is true and that isn't tragic at all.

[user104658]

Youre assuming the mother is looking after the daughter and it is entirely probable that the opposite is true and that isn't tragic at all.
:shrug: one man's trash is the next man's treasure, I suppose.

[Withano]

:shrug: one man's trash is the next man's treasure, I suppose.

And a daughter looking after her mother during her later stage of life is entirely commendable.

[user104658]

And a daughter looking after her mother during her later stage of life is entirely commendable.
OK Norman.

[Vicky.]

They were going on as if they have been estranged for years, never mind 3 weeks. Hell I don't see my mother for months on end at (unfortunate) times but I don't react as if someone has died when I finally see her :laugh: Was OTT. IMO.

[joeysteele]

I really don't get this family going in to say something to housemates, even Marnie's Cousin.
The one for Renee was okay,something for a laugh.

For goodness sake, Sam has only been away from her Mum for a couple of weeks,I haven't seen my Mum for 5 weeks.
I would guess Sam was away for much longer periods when at the height of her 'art' as she calls it in the 1980s.

[Lostie!]

People who can't let go of mummy when they are pushing 50 will inevitably implode when dear old mum kicks the bucket. No idea how to exist without parental input and validation. It IS tragic. I'll bet she's been heavily involved in "guiding " (pushing) her career, too.

OK Norman.

OK Norman.

Gosh, you are a bitter one aren't you. Maybe have a lie down and don't take your own mummy issues out on everyone else? :)

And an embarrassingly juvenile jibe doesn't get any funnier simply by repeating it.

[rusticgal]

Buckled that people think Bear fans will give a crap about him being a dick to his girlfriend :joker:. Methinks some may have missed the point... People don't like bear because the bethink he's nice.

Also... A middle aged women still hanging from mummy's apron strings is pretty much THE most tragic thing I can imagine.



It doesn't matter how old you are...your mums always there for you. Sam has gone through a bereavement and her mum was probably her rock. It's been a hard house to live in this year with prats like Bear and Heavy D. It must be hard to cope with especially if you have had a tough year.
Sam has lost some support from me with the Chloe thing and bugging herself up but it's her mum...and if you are close with your mum and she's always been there for you..age is irrelevant.

[user104658]

Gosh, you are a bitter one aren't you. Maybe have a lie down and don't take your own mummy issues out on everyone else? :)

And an embarrassingly juvenile jibe doesn't get any funnier simply by repeating it.
I'm not bitter, I'm realistic. I'm happy for anyone who has a good ADULT relationship with their parents, but there's nothing worse than "permanent offspring" who hang on their parents words until the day they die.

[Lostie!]

I'm not bitter, I'm realistic. I'm happy for anyone who has a good ADULT relationship with their parents, but there's nothing worse than "permanent offspring" who hang on their parents words until the day they die.

There's a lot worse. In the real world at least, give it a visit sometime.

[user104658]

It doesn't matter how old you are...your mums always there for you. Sam has gone through a bereavement and her mum was probably her rock. It's been a hard house to live in this year with prats like Bear and Heavy D. It must be hard to cope with especially if you have had a tough year.
Sam has lost some support from me with the Chloe thing and bugging herself up but it's her mum...and if you are close with your mum and she's always been there for you..age is irrelevant.
People who rely on their parents to always be there for them, as I said, struggle to function when their parents are (inevitably) gone. Simple as that, really. It happens all the time. People lose that "rock" and they crash and burn because they never really grew up.

[user104658]

There's a lot worse. In the real world at least, give it a visit sometime.
Ehhhhhh of course there's literally worse, just as there are literally things that are more tragic, but you seem to have an issue with hyperbole and not taking things literally so I'll be sure to remember that.

[T*]

Also... A middle aged women still hanging from mummy's apron strings is pretty much THE most tragic thing I can imagine.

How dare she miss and show affection to her mother? WHAT A MONSTER

[caprimint]

disliking him for the personality he's not just displayed but flaunted doesn't equate to being fixated on him. personal experience with my ex (the genuine real deal psychopath) means i recognise bear's calculating ways, his self-serving charm, his use of others as objects. and so do many others recognise it because it's damned obvious.
So the Bear type floats your boat? :fan:

Or maybe a couple bear fans are blinded by love too :suspect:
:laugh: Probably so, who isn't biased towards their favourites?

[Vicky.]

How dare she miss and show affection to her mother? WHAT A MONSTER

Showing affection is one thing. Clinging to her as if she is the last lifejacket on the titanic whilst bawling your eyes out is quite another.

[user104658]

How dare she miss and show affection to her mother? WHAT A MONSTER
Not a monster. Just sad. But we knew that already with her "Page free bewbs was art" speech.

[T*]

Showing affection is one thing. Clinging to her as if she is the last lifejacket on the titanic whilst bawling your eyes out is quite another.

If i'd been locked away for 4 weeks without any real contact and see someone familiar and that you love I would of reacted the same and expect more to.

[Lostie!]

Showing affection is one thing. Clinging to her as if she is the last lifejacket on the titanic whilst bawling your eyes out is quite another.

Genuinely surprised that getting emotional over seeing her mother is somehow being spun into a negative to use against her.

[T*]

Genuinely surprised that getting emotional over seeing her mother is somehow being spun into a negative to use against her.

I am also.

[mdook]

People has to decide whether they want another horrible housemate like Bear to win BB same as Helen Wood some years ago.For me we should not tolerate and make winners to those who are vile and ill-mannered.Do not make these vile people as winners.Renee is the only one who deserve to win as she was the only one who stood up to bear terrible bad behaviour.

[caprimint]

People has to decide whether they want another horrible housemate like Bear to win BB same as Helen Wood some years ago.For me we should not tolerate and make winners to those who are vile and ill-mannered.Do not make these vile people as winners.Renee is the only one who deserve to win as she was the only one who stood up to bear terrible bad behaviour.
I find it a strange logic to think that Renee has been any less 'vile' than Bear. The long string of names that she's called him "low-life" etc (I can't remember them all) is worse than anything he's ever said to or about her. Her jealous look isn't pretty and doesn't deserve to be rewarded.

[Vicky.]

Not negative as such...just very OTT in my opinion :shrug:

[ThriceShy]

Sam is as false as it gets. Wouldn't surprise me if all this mum stuff was a ploy to get more votes. We heard her the other night saying that the public call her "our sam" etc. She is trying to portray the wholesome girl image and it is bollocks.

[Amy Jade]

Like Marnie is 'blinded by love', people can also be blinded by hate when they are fixated on disliking a particular housemate.

Just as some fans are blinded too then?

[Amy Jade]

I cried when I went on holiday with friends and came home and saw my mum. I literally don't care what people think of me for that, my mum is one of my best friends and I missed her so much.

Sam has had very public problems and it's likely that between those demons and losing her partner to cancer that her mum will have been her only constant and pretty much her rock, I see nothing wrong with being close to a parent and being happy to see them after not seeing them for a number of weeks.

The fact she's being dragged for it is sad imo

[caprimint]

Just as some fans are blinded too then?
Sure. Negativity is acted upon a hell of a lot more than positivity though.

[Ammi]

...maybe seen as a bit OTT in her emotions but that house has very much been one for releasing such things/such 'OTT's' with the stress of it../much more so than usual I would say with the constant purposeful goadings etc and windings up...that release when you see that person of 'comfort' in your life ...it's understandable and I would say, not something of criticism...(and Sam has had a bad/emotional week as well..)...

[user104658]

People has to decide whether they want another horrible housemate like Bear to win BB same as Helen Wood some years ago.For me we should not tolerate and make winners to those who are vile and ill-mannered.Do not make these vile people as winners.Renee is the only one who deserve to win as she was the only one who stood up to bear terrible bad behaviour.
I personally don't think Bear and Helen are comparable. Bear isn't a nice guy, he likes to wind people up, is careless with other people's feelings and is entirely self-centred.

Helen Wood is a legitimately unpleasant, highly aggressive piece of work who thrived not on causing people to be just irritated or annoyed like Bear... But wanted people to be actually miserable. She was a legitimate bully who targeted people's emotional and physical insecurities.

[Ammi]

I personally don't think Bear and Helen are comparable. Bear isn't a nice guy, he likes to wind people up, is careless with other people's feelings and is entirely self-centred.

Helen Wood is a legitimately unpleasant, highly aggressive piece of work who thrived not on causing people to be just irritated or annoyed like Bear... But wanted people to be actually miserable. She was a legitimate bully who targeted people's emotional and physical insecurities.

..basically and essentially what Bear has done, then...the methods may not have been identical but it is essentially the same thing ...I think for me, I may not have liked Helen as a person or found anything to admire in her but she did give us everything she was, she did 'lay herself out there'../good/bad/ugly etc and wore no masks..and that made for a level of some kind of understanding..through her life as well, as to the reasons for her bitterness with so many things ...with Bear, he's a child in maturity and everything negative in a child/the lack of ownership of anything he does and the lack of thought of anyone beyond himself...he finds buttons and pushes them just co he can and then he laughs in the face of people's hurt by what he does...he really is the grimmest of grim in a person...

[user104658]

I disagree Ammi it's not the same at all and you even outlined my reasons for thinking so. Bear is immature and self-centered. He finds superficial buttons to push for his own amusement yes, but they are basically "generalised" buttons just to irritate anyone / everyone.

Helen you got in one word. Bitter. A genuinely twisted, broken woman. She deliberately preyed on people's INDIVIDUAL hang-ups, not for amusement, not because it made her laugh (beyond a stoney faced cackle), but because she genuinely just liked to see people hurt and isolated. She wasn't immature and self centered. She was straight up cruel, hard and abusive.

Give me an immature child playing daft games causing a bit of destruction, over a deliberately spiteful and vicious adult any day of the week.

Talk to the housemates who have been in there this time, any of them, about Bear in a few years time and they'll almost certainly just laugh about what a nightmare he was to live with.

Ask half (or more) of Helen Wood's housemates what they think of her still. :umm2:

[Ammi]

I disagree Ammi it's not the same at all and you even outlined my reasons for thinking so. Bear is immature and self-centered. He finds superficial buttons to push for his own amusement yes, but they are basically "generalised" buttons just to irritate anyone / everyone.

Helen you got in one word. Bitter. A genuinely twisted, broken woman. She deliberately preyed on people's INDIVIDUAL hang-ups, not for amusement, not because it made her laugh (beyond a stoney faced cackle), but because she genuinely just liked to see people hurt and isolated. She wasn't immature and self centered. She was straight up cruel, hard and abusive.

Give me an immature child playing daft games causing a bit of destruction, over a deliberately spiteful and vicious adult any day of the week.

Talk to the housemates who have been in there this time, any of them, about Bear in a few years time and they'll almost certainly just laugh about what a nightmare he was to live with.

Ask half (or more) of Helen Wood's housemates what they think of her still. :umm2:


....ughhh, I just hate it when you're right, TS..:laugh:..although I don't entirely know that some will when they've distanced themselves and 'played back'...but there are so many ways that they're not comparable..the comparison I think is only being looked at, at all because of two such negative houses and two houses based on 'one people shows'...both equally grim though and for me less levels of interest in Bear than I had with Helen because I could at least find some understanding with her...a child who presses buttons just for reactions will only ever get bad reactions, we will never see anything else from their targets, or very little and we'll have to filter through hard to find etc...and there is spite involved as well, the eggs and throwing around food etc is just 'daft' and thoughtless but so much of what he has done, has been deliberately targeted in spite...and in his own words, he will get people back with spite if he feels that they have wronged him in some way....strangely though, he softens with all who support his behaviour and excuse him....

[Lostie!]

Sam is as false as it gets. Wouldn't surprise me if all this mum stuff was a ploy to get more votes. We heard her the other night saying that the public call her "our sam" etc. She is trying to portray the wholesome girl image and it is bollocks.

Or, alternatively, she genuinely missed her mother. Radical concept, I know

[Liam-]

It never fails to amaze me how nice things can be turned into negative things to suit people's agendas, shock horror, stop the press, a woman missed her mum, who had been her rock for the past year as her partner died of cancer, I'm sure the Daily Star will be fumed they didn't get the headline first.