I get the feeling Big Brother is trying to get Bear evicted

[Vanessa]

All housemates got friends and family, he was the only one to get something negative. Bots was also anti Bear, when only recently it has always been pro Bear. :suspect:

[Ammi]

...but none of the other housemates cheated on their partners publicly and publicly 'dumped them' though Vanessa...don't worry though lovely, he'll be right..it all had to be done as part of his redemption arc and he'll be that final and probably win...:hug:..

[bots]

not before time if its true.

[Paula D]

Not a hope, BB was trying to show his softer side to make him the winner of the show.

[Vanessa]

...but none of the other housemates cheated on their partners publicly and publicly 'dumped them' though Vanessa...don't worry though lovely, he'll be right..it all had to be done as part of his redemption arc and he'll be that final and probably win...:hug:..

It's like he served his purpose and not they don't need him anymore. :shrug:

[Ammi]

https://67.media.tumblr.com/6c06732cf44b9a28564934c732d78722/tumblr_oblt7zLNRi1vveppko1_1280.gif


..he made his cocktail of hurt/humiliation and doing it all the wrong way possible and he had to face that but it's done now, Vanessa../over....

[Ellen]

Maybe BB coudnt get any family and friends to go on. :shrug:

[Vanessa]

Not a hope, BB was trying to show his softer side to make him the winner of the show.

I don't think so. They definitely want him gone.

[Ammi]

I don't think so. They definitely want him gone.

..if you ever, ever get attracted to a Bear in real life and try and have him for your boyfriend, I'm going to wobble your head young lady...

[Vanessa]

..if you ever, ever get attracted to a Bear in real life and try and have him for your boyfriend, I'm going to wobble your head young lady...

:hehe: he would be good for a little fling.

[rusticgal]

Maybe BB coudnt get any family and friends to go on. :shrug:



...too embarrassed :joker::joker:


Had Bear dealt with the situation better he may have got more support from people with short memories. However he just showed himself up to be the selfish git he is....he pretty much blamed his girlfriend for putting him in a bad light :shrug:.... Even his tears were for himself.

There comes a time when you realise that you cannot support a 'loser'.

[Ammi]

:hehe: he would be good for a little fling.

...:laugh:...cheeky...

[Ellen]

...too embarrassed :joker::joker:


Had Bear dealt with the situation better he may have got more support from people with short memories. However he just showed himself up to be the selfish git he is....he pretty much blamed his girlfriend for putting him in a bad light :shrug:.... Even his tears were for himself.

There comes a time when you realise that you cannot support a 'loser'.

Absolutely! There was no remorse. It was obvious he was only bothered about himself.

[MB.]

Vanessa, it's a vote to save and he's had the most airtime of any of them

[bots]

:hehe: he would be good for a little fling.

of an egg or 2 ... the odd glass here and there? :fist:

[Ammi]

Vanessa, it's a vote to save and he's had the most airtime of any of them

..any of who..?..what are these others that you speak of...

[Vanessa]

I think he's young and in many ways still immature. But I'm sure he will mature with age. I was the same at his age: couldn't hold down a relationship :laugh:

[Vanessa]

...:laugh:...cheeky...

I think he's gorgeous and at least he has a personality, unlike Himbo Lewis :hehe:

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Maybe his family and friends hate his guts?

[Vanessa]

Maybe his family and friends hate his guts?

No. His brother has been on bots and was very supportive. His dad apparently is the same as him :hee:

[jet]

All housemates got friends and family, he was the only one to get something negative. Bots was also anti Bear, when only recently it has always been pro Bear. :suspect:

But we all already knew he had cheated on his gf, so it gave him a great chance to show a soft side/redeem himself by apologising to her and showing genuine remorse and emotion. Instead he just shrugged, didn't even respond to her and then tried to put the blame on her. It could have been his big redemption and the win practically handed to him on a plate...but he blew it by being cold hearted and uncaring....and he knew it hence the tears in the DR. The cheating, his reaction - all his own fault, not BB's.
But don't worry, he's still likely to win. :fist:

[Vanessa]

But we all already knew he had cheated on his gf, so it gave him a great chance to show a soft side/redeem himself by apologising to her and showing genuine remorse and emotion. Instead he just shrugged, didn't even respond to her and then tried to put the blame on her. It could have been his big redemption and the win practically handed to him on a plate...but he blew it by being cold hearted and uncaring....and he knew it hence the tears in the DR. The cheating, his reaction - all his own fault, not BB's.
But don't worry, he's still likely to win. :fist:

I think he just wanted to talk to her in private. Not like this.

[Northern Monkey]

He probably has served his time now.He's been paid already and got plenty of coverage.
Also i don't believe girlfriend thing at all.She looked nervous(ish) because it was more than likely her first proper acting role

[jet]

I think he just wanted to talk to her in private. Not like this.

He could have told her that then.
"I'd like to talk to you in private" :shrug:

[chuff me dizzy]

I said the same thing last night Nessa !!

[cassieparis]

That scripted scene with his ex has maintained interest in Stephen Bear!
With Chloe's eviction his star was on the wane. Had his daddy come in, it would have been boring pats on the backs or hype to keeping up the food destruction and vandalism. All of which are now very stale and old. Now he's in the tabloid hype of all hypes, a love triangle!!!!
I can't bear this contrived nonsense but enjoy being outraged by it.

[Ammi]

I think he just wanted to talk to her in private. Not like this.

...she probably just wanted to be 'dumped' in private as well, Vanessa and not like this...Bear's terms/Bear's world...

[Amy Jade]

Well he said it's a game and he hated people coasting, it's his turn to have a bad week just as he's made everyone in there have a bad few weeks.

[Ellen]

I think he just wanted to talk to her in private. Not like this.

She probably would have prefered to be dumped in private not on national tv.

[Vanessa]

...she probably just wanted to be 'dumped' in private as well, Vanessa and not like this...Bear's terms/Bear's world...
He should have waited until after the show, I agree.

[Amy Jade]

Ammi bossing this thread though :flutter:

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Surprised she didn't tell him she was pregnant, keep the bear drama rolling

[Vanessa]

If he goes I'm not watching anymore. Most of that lot have coasted and done nothing to deserve winning. Bear has given every and more. Apart from Rene, who I think has contributed a lot.

[Macie Lightfoot]

so have we officially reached the "fans of the odds-on favorite to win who is an airtime vacuum come up with conspiracy theories as to why the show wants him to lose even though it's not even remotely true" point of the series?

[joeysteele]

Not sure if they want him gone Vanessa but I would think they will be glad when this series is over and only the next week to go now too.

The kind of expected Champion, Biggins, had to be thrown out although the viewers still really have not seen in full the complete conversations that led to that.
It appears on watching that more final warnings have been issued than in any other series.
Yet housemates are still just getting talked to on incidents.

Others BB likely thought would be prominent in the series, have been massive let downs, such as Ricky and Sam Fox.

Bear has been able to capture airtime by always doing something, whether it is good or bad.
Lewis and Marnie have provided the usual showmance for BB to spend a lot of highlights time on too.
Which is why those 3 in particular have been able to dominate the highlights, which are not chosen by themselves to be shown but only by BB themselves.

If BB want Bear out now as you suspect and you may be right, it may be to create a more seemingly harmonious end to the series in the last week or so, where BB needs to do little and the viewers can either be pleased to see a bit more of the rest of them, or like I would be, likely bored to death by some of the remaining figures in there.

It is BBs interference in noms, evictions and the manipulation of 'visitors' to the series that ruins the series, not often the housemates themselves.

Sadly until BB starts to again take a back seat on oversee natural developing proceedings rather than set them up,then all we will get are the louder more active characters in the highlights.
This series has gone the way BB allowed it to,no one else, and Bear has been able to use that to his advantage so far,so good luck to him.

[Vanessa]

If he goes they will lose a lot of viewers, because they're clearly manipulating things.

[Mitchell]

I'd rather a bore win than someone who cheats on national tv like its nothing, a cheater is bad enough, but to do it in that environment where you know your girlfriend (who you seem to be so in love with) is watching along with millions of others knowing you have that girlfriend, young or not, he should grow some ****ing decency, if I did that to a partner on national tv, I'd deserve the ****storm that he deserves.

[Vanessa]

It's all scripted nonsense, I don't buy any of it.

[Jamie89]

If he goes they will lose a lot of viewers, because they're clearly manipulating things.

I get the feeling the producers think the same, they're basically making it 'The Bear Show'... which probably shows that they really don't want him to be evicted.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

If he goes they will lose a lot of viewers, because they're clearly manipulating things.

They all ready losing viewers with him in it correct?

[hot2go]

All housemates got friends and family, he was the only one to get something negative. Bots was also anti Bear, when only recently it has always been pro Bear. :suspect:

BB have obv decided to shaft him ... They created their own mess and now they don't want to own it ... Damage limitation at the eleventh hour ....better be on the safe side and have a wholesome winner to represent their rapidly ailing show.
I wonder if the very many people who cry ' it's a fix, it's a fix ' all the time, will be absolutely fine about this fix.... I'm guessing they will.
Myself I couldn't care less about any of the tedious relationships these people have in or out of the house, any of them, I'm only interested in being entertained by housemates inside the walls of the big brother house.
If I wanted to go on some moral crusade I would use my time giving my advice to real people I care about not reality TV con artists.
Bear has been the best housemate this year IMO and that is the reason I vote for him.

[Vanessa]

I get the feeling the producers think the same, they're basically making it 'The Bear Show'... which probably shows that they really don't want him to be evicted.

Then they should have sent his family in and not his ex. I find it unfair that all the others got family and he was the only one who didn't. So if he goes they have themselves to blame.

[Vanessa]

They all ready losing viewers with him in it correct?

They will lose more if he goes.

[Mitchell]

Then they should have sent his family in and not his ex. I find it unfair that all the others got family and he was the only one who didn't. So if he goes thy have themselves to blame.
He got his girlfriend! Not BB's fault that he decided to be a cheating scumbag on national tv is it?

[Vanessa]

He got his girlfriend! Not BB's fault that he decided to be a cheating scumbag on national tv is it?

So why not send other housemates exes? They wouldn't have liked it either.

[Amy Jade]

He got his girlfriend! Not BB's fault that he decided to be a cheating scumbag on national tv is it?

It's not his fault, he's the obvious victim here :idc:

[Amy Jade]

So why not send other housemates exes? They wouldn't have liked it either.

Sam's is dead, how inconsiderate Vanessa :fist:

[Shaun]

so have we officially reached the "fans of the odds-on favorite to win who is an airtime vacuum come up with conspiracy theories as to why the show wants him to lose even though it's not even remotely true" point of the series?

:joker:

[Vanessa]

Big Brother want him out, so they will give him the worse edit they can. They know that one bad show can be enough to get someone evicted.

[hot2go]

In addition to the hypocrisy of the endless ' it's a fix, it's s fix ' brigade I also notice the immediate disappearance of the Bully Police too...
I call that Convenient Morals ... Reminds me of The Church

[Mitchell]

So why not send other housemates exes? They wouldn't have liked it either.

Did any of the others cheat on their partner whilst in the house? If so then sure! Him and Lillie were together up to when he cheated on her in the house, which made her his girlfriend.

I'm just glad the cheating scumbag was pulled up for it and people saw his true colours.

[Vanessa]

Did any of the others cheat on their partner whilst in the house? If so then sure! Him and Lillie were together up to when he cheated on her in the house, which made her his girlfriend.

I'm just glad the cheating scumbag was pulled up for it and people saw his true colours.

No idea, but many would not want to see their exes.

[Mitchell]

It's not his fault, he's the obvious victim here :idc:
Obviously! I mean if Lillie was in the house and cheated on Bear, she'd be called a witch, a slapper, a ***** you name it, but no, Bear is just a lad, because he's been entertaining he can get away with doing this vile act, anyone who cheats is scum in the first place, let alone on national TV, making a fool of his girlfriend in front of millions.

Big Brother want him out, so they will give him the worse edit they can. They know that one bad show can be enough to get someone evicted.

BB know that Bear will do loads of TV stuff for C5 and will appear on bots, they want him to stay, hence why he's had the most airtime and why James has disappeared of the face of the earth!

[Mitchell]

No idea, but many would not want to see their exes.

I'm sorry Ness, but I think I'll have to agree to disagree, Bear deserves to be shown to be a lying, cheating twat, as would anybody who could do that to someone they claim to love on national tv.

[Absorption]

Did any of the others cheat on their partner whilst in the house? If so then sure! Him and Lillie were together up to when he cheated on her in the house, which made her his girlfriend.

I'm just glad the cheating scumbag was pulled up for it and people saw his true colours.

Exactly.

He won't leave tonight, though. The people convinced that BB wants him out will perform a bizarre kind of 'saving the underdog (underbear?!)' ritual and waste even more of their money making Endemol/Channel 5 rich.

It would be soooo boring without him, wouldn't it...zzzzzzzzzzzzz...*fart*...oops, sorry, woke myself up with a botty-pop there!

[Vanessa]

Obviously! I mean if Lillie was in the house and cheated on Bear, she'd be called a witch, a slapper, a ***** you name it, but no, Bear is just a lad, because he's been entertaining he can get away with doing this vile act, anyone who cheats is scum in the first place, let alone on national TV, making a fool of his girlfriend in front of millions.



BB know that Bear will do loads of TV stuff for C5 and will appear on bots, they want him to stay, hence why he's had the most airtime and why James has disappeared of the face of the earth!

If they wanted him to stay they wouldn't have sent his ex in. When he has his dad and brother who are supporting him.

[Jamie89]

Then they should have sent his family in and not his ex. I find it unfair that all the others got family and he was the only one who didn't. So if he goes they have themselves to blame.
But Bear's whole appeal (seemingly) is that he's 'controversial' and the logic behind his entertainment value seems to be that it doesn't really matter if it's positive or negative attention he's getting, as long as he's getting attention. So putting his ex in would cause drama which the prods want and it would give him more attention too which surely is what his fans want? So I think if anything it would benefit him. Also they did put someone close to him in just like they did with the others, it just so happens that he'd betrayed that person whilst in the house, but that was his own doing and not something that the prods are responsible for accounting for.

[Ashley.]

Big Brother would be doing something right, I suppose.

[Amy Jade]

Obviously! I mean if Lillie was in the house and cheated on Bear, she'd be called a witch, a slapper, a ***** you name it, but no, Bear is just a lad, because he's been entertaining he can get away with doing this vile act, anyone who cheats is scum in the first place, let alone on national TV, making a fool of his girlfriend in front of millions.
:clap2:

Just look at last year, Steph was ripped apart on here for cheating on Sam, it only calmed down really after it was revealed he had cheated multiple times on her and treated her quite badly in general.

Bear I'd getting off so lightly in comparrison

[Vanessa]

But Bear's whole appeal (seemingly) is that he's 'controversial' and the logic behind his entertainment value seems to be that it doesn't really matter if it's positive or negative attention he's getting, as long as he's getting attention. So putting his ex in would cause drama which the prods want and it would give him more attention too which surely is what his fans want? So I think if anything it would benefit him. Also they did put someone close to him in just like they did with the others, it just so happens that he'd betrayed that person whilst in the house, but that was his own doing and not something that the prods are responsible for accounting for.

Putting an ex in is never a good idea. I wouldn't want to see any of mine :fist:

[Lostie!]

I think he's young and in many ways still immature. But I'm sure he will mature with age. I was the same at his age: couldn't hold down a relationship :laugh:

He's a grown man, he should have already matured. I'm younger than him and I don't carry on the way he does so age is no excuse. He's just a knobhead and I don't see him ever outgrowing that.

If he goes they will lose a lot of viewers, because they're clearly manipulating things.

They have been the whole time by giving Bear so much focus when it's just been the same old boring, contrived rubbish from him.

So why not send other housemates exes? They wouldn't have liked it either.

If any of the others decided to cheat on and dump their partners while in the house I'm sure they would have.

They always exploit this kind of stuff, like when they sent in Casey's mother and Jasmine to give Lee Ryan a hard time. If Bear had chosen to be a half decent person they wouldn't have been able to do it.

[Absorption]

The sound of a barrel being scraped as denial becomes even more pronounced...

[Mitchell]

If they wanted him to stay they wouldn't have sent his ex in. When he has his dad and brother who are supporting him.

They want him to stay, they're giving him loads of airtime, on top of that they're showing him crying and having a revelation, they're giving him a winners edit. Well in my opinion obviously, as I said, he deserves being confronted by Lillie, he's been a vile twat to her and deserves everything he gets, anybody that would get with him now is a ****ing idiot

[Mitchell]

Putting an ex in is never a good idea. I wouldn't want to see any of mine :fist:

But if your boyfriend went into the house (who you've discussed marriage with) and then cheated on you and dumped you on national tv, would you be best pleased?

[Amy Jade]

Maybe they had already contacted Lillie to appear weeks ago, why should BB change their plans to suit him?

He cheated, nobody forced him and even worse he's not showing remorse for it, instead he has tried to somehow lay blame on the victim. Any negativity he gets from the situation is entirely his own fault.

[Mitchell]

:clap2:

Just look at last year, Steph was ripped apart on here for cheating on Sam, it only calmed down really after it was revealed he had cheated multiple times on her and treated her quite badly in general.

Bear I'd getting off so lightly in comparrison

I totally agree, Bear is having excuses made for him, there is NEVER a valid excuse for cheating like this.

[Vanessa]

Bear has lasted even longer than I thought he would. So he has done very well. :p Hope he survives tonight.

[Ammi]

They always exploit this kind of stuff, like when they sent in Casey's mother and Jasmine to give Lee Ryan a hard time. If Bear had chosen to be a half decent person they wouldn't have been able to do it.


..this is the crux of it really, he's his own engineer through his own shabby behaviour in Lillie put in and it all being very public, which is what he decided from the very off...


so have we officially reached the "fans of the odds-on favorite to win who is an airtime vacuum come up with conspiracy theories as to why the show wants him to lose even though it's not even remotely true" point of the series?

..I'm just going to re-post Queen Macie's words though...:worship:...because it's all part of his redemption story and very much still in keeping with The Bear Show, which has been created and the star of their show isn't going anywhere before the final and probably the win....

[Liam-]

No, what they've done is give him a reality check and a taste of his own medicine, he's played his game by hurting people and causing upset, but he always dealt with it like there were no victims, well there was a very big victim of his game and he was confronted by her last night and he he showed himself to not have any conscious or heart whatsoever.

To have his 'ex'-girlfriend in front of him, crying her eyes out and spilling her guts about how bad he had hurt and humiliated her, to only smirk and shrug at her showed him to be the scumbag I thought he was all along, even after the event, he went on to slag her off, like how dare she come on here and try to mug me off?! he proved tonight that he isn't a good person, cheats are disgusting in general, but to be so heartless and nonchalant about it, like it was inevitable and that she should have expected it and she should should be grateful that it was now rather than later, just goes to show how much of a nasty piece of work that 'man' (I use that word very loosely in his case) really is, the only person he cares about is himself and that's how it will always be.

I'm under no illusion that he'll go tonight, he'll still probably make the final and win, but with the likes of Stephanie and Scotty being the top 2 of the January series, I can't say I'll be that surprised, people seem to love cheaters these days for some reason.

[hot2go]

Bear has lasted even longer than I thought he would. So he has done very well. :p Hope he survives tonight.

Yeh he has survived longer than I expected too...i see it as quite a result to have beaten off the bleeding heart brigade for so long....he has got much closer to a final then any previous housemates like him have.

[Ammi]

Obviously! I mean if Lillie was in the house and cheated on Bear, she'd be called a witch, a slapper, a ***** you name it, but no, Bear is just a lad, because he's been entertaining he can get away with doing this vile act, anyone who cheats is scum in the first place, let alone on national TV, making a fool of his girlfriend in front of millions.



BB know that Bear will do loads of TV stuff for C5 and will appear on bots, they want him to stay, hence why he's had the most airtime and why James has disappeared of the face of the earth!

..yeah, I said this earlier in a thread because it's what I was thinking last night when watching...I mean, can you imagine if it had been reversed and she had acted like him in every other way as well with the winding up and throwing food around as well as the cheating etc...I mean, Chloe doesn't even have a boyfriend and for her part in anything Bear related she's had some awful stuff said about her....

[Lostie!]

Yeh he has survived longer than I expected too...i see it as quite a result to have beaten off the bleeding heart brigade for so long....he has got much closer to a final then any previous housemates like him have.

If that's your opinion of people who just value basic decency, that's really quite sad.

And I fail to believe anyone is surprised Bear's still there, to be quite honest.

[Mitchell]

..yeah, I said this earlier in a thread because it's what I was thinking last night when watching...I mean, can you imagine if it had been reversed and she had acted like him in every other way as well with the winding up and throwing food around as well as the cheating etc...I mean, Chloe doesn't even have a boyfriend and for her part in anything Bear related she's had some awful stuff said about her....

But no, Bear is the man so it's all alright :shrug:

[jennyjuniper]

Maybe BB coudnt get any family and friends to go on. :shrug:

That's more like it. Wouldn't you be embarrassed having to admit you were related to THAT?:hehe::hehe:

[Ammi]

But no, Bear is the man so it's all alright :shrug:

...well plus he's 'cute' as well, you know Mitch..:laugh:...

[RichardG]

Bear has lasted even longer than I thought he would. So he has done very well. :p Hope he survives tonight.

lol of course he's going to survive the eviction, and when he's crowned the winner next week it will be the result that bb has been pushing for all season.

[Mitchell]

...well plus he's 'cute' as well, you know Mitch..:laugh:...

He's about as cute as Bobby Davro's red speedos

[bots]

i don't think its a case of them needing to do anything to get evicted and the production couldn't care less. The only interest is in voting revenue and if other housemates get more votes, money talks. When bear is up against housemates with a large fanbase outwith the show, thats when the his popularity can truly be measured. Tonight with Sam and Ricky untested in the mix, its going to be interesting.

[hot2go]

If that's your opinion of people who just value basic decency, that's really quite sad

I'm not sad at all....I'm just rational and have a very clear understanding of the difference between real life and television....
I don't know what type of people viewers are expecting inside a realty TV show like Big Brother...but from where I'm standing there's Renee who was married to The Mafia, Katie who's granny takes it up the arse , Ricky who took drugs on a live web cam, Renee who spits in people's food and has gone on record as saying Hitler was a brilliant man, Chloe who swapped her baby for fame and fortune, Sam who trashed her own career after getting totally pissed on tele, Grant who dumped his girlfriend just before he entered the house, Bear who dumped his girlfriend just after he entered the house, Marnie who exposed her Tits to another housemate and Biggins who thinks Bisexuals should be hated for the spread of AIDS.

So before you judge me, look at your own basic values pal...:laugh:

You go to your church and I'll go to mine.

[Macie Lightfoot]

..I'm just going to re-post Queen Macie's words though...:worship:...because it's all part of his redemption story and very much still in keeping with The Bear Show, which has been created and the star of their show isn't going anywhere before the final and probably the win....

Ammi :love:

but really though, this card gets pulled ALL THE DAMN TIME where fans of the probable favorite come up with conspiracy theories about how production is against said HM so when they win in a landslide they can look back and pretend said HM actually had to overcome stuff and this deserved his win. Like, we went through this with Aaron and with Jim Davidson at the exact same times in their respective series. It's old now.

[cassieparis]

I don't get why some watchers believe the Producers care who wins or loses. They care about rivals to the odds on favourites.
This is because such people increase the vote. It's a business. It isn't personal!! (although it may feel like it)

The majority of managers in any business aren't more concerned or involved in the workers' personalities but the quality of product that they produce, first and foremost. They will indulge unbearable personalities, if they produce results. Even if they alienate less successful employees.

The Producers will manipulate interactions to create rivalry to the favourites. Sometimes that means manipulating things to keep controversial people in. Like Bear. IMO.

[Samm]

You said this about Jason..

[waterhog]

I don't get why some watchers believe the Producers care who wins or loses. They care about rivals to the odds on favourites.
This is because such people increase the vote. It's a business. It isn't personal!! (although it may feel like it)

The majority of managers in any business aren't more concerned or involved in the workers' personalities but the quality of product that they produce, first and foremost. They will indulge unbearable personalities, if they produce results. Even if they alienate less successful employees.

The Producers will manipulate interactions to create rivalry to the favourites. Sometimes that means manipulating things to keep controversial people in. Like Bear. IMO.


allot of truth in that.

[hot2go]

I don't get why some watchers believe the Producers care who wins or loses. They care about rivals to the odds on favourites.
This is because such people increase the vote. It's a business. It isn't personal!! (although it may feel like it)

The majority of managers in any business aren't more concerned or involved in the workers' personalities but the quality of product that they produce, first and foremost. They will indulge unbearable personalities, if they produce results. Even if they alienate less successful employees.

The Producers will manipulate interactions to create rivalry to the favourites. Sometimes that means manipulating things to keep controversial people in. Like Bear. IMO.

Brilliant Post and totally logical

[Northern Monkey]

I don't get why some watchers believe the Producers care who wins or loses. They care about rivals to the odds on favourites.
This is because such people increase the vote. It's a business. It isn't personal!! (although it may feel like it)

The majority of managers in any business aren't more concerned or involved in the workers' personalities but the quality of product that they produce, first and foremost. They will indulge unbearable personalities, if they produce results. Even if they alienate less successful employees.

The Producers will manipulate interactions to create rivalry to the favourites. Sometimes that means manipulating things to keep controversial people in. Like Bear. IMO.Never a truer word spoken:clap1:

[Kazanne]

BB aren't doing anything,Bear has done it,it's his game,looks like he may have played it wrong,Marco got slated for this why is it different for Bear?

[Kazanne]

This sounds like excuses to save face incase he gets evicted,lol,Oh it's BBs fault not Bears

[Vanessa]

This sounds like excuses to save face incase he gets evicted,lol,Oh it's BBs fault not Bears

It's obvious they want him out. Everyone got family, except him. Awful edit on the show and on Bots. I guess they think he has served his purpose and have no need for him now.

[Liam-]

It's obvious they want him out. Everyone got family, except him. Awful edit on the show and on Bots. I guess they think he has served his purpose and have no need for him now.

Or maybe, more likely, people have just finally taken their rose specs off and realised that he's the worst.

[bots]

It's obvious they want him out. Everyone got family, except him. Awful edit on the show and on Bots. I guess they think he has served his purpose and have no need for him now.

But they have to have done something bad to be able to get a bad edit .... while the producers pick what to show, if he wasn't a dick in the first place, he couldnt get a bad edit :shrug:

[Vanessa]

But they have to have done something bad to be able to get a bad edit .... while the producers pick what to show, if he wasn't a dick in the first place, he couldnt get a bad edit :shrug:

His dad or his brother could have gone in.

[Vanessa]

Or maybe, more likely, people have just finally taken their rose specs off and realised that he's the worst.

No, not from one day to another.

[bots]

His dad or his brother could have gone in.

but again, it was bear and bear alone that left himself open to it by his own actions

[Babayaro.]

I think he's young and in many ways still immature. But I'm sure he will mature with age. I was the same at his age: couldn't hold down a relationship :laugh:

He's 26 ffs lol, not 17!

[Liam-]

No, not from one day to another.

Why not? you go off people at the drop of a hat and start liking them again the next day, why is it so hard to believe that people just realise what a nasty piece of work he is now?

[Vanessa]

but again, it was bear and bear alone that left himself open to it by his own actions

I bet they wouldn't put this woman that Lewis has on the outside. They can't have their precious Lewnie looking bad.

[Vanessa]

Why not? you go off people at the drop of a hat and start liking them again the next day, why is it so hard to believe that people just realise what a nasty piece of work he is now?

Because this series is so manipulated it's almost scripted.

[crazycolaist]

Well you cant call any victim or fix when you generally have been a dickhead the whole 3 weeks. Just sayin.

[Liam-]

Because this series is so manipulated it's almost scripted.

And you come to this conclusion right now, just because your precious Bear was shown up to be the twat that he is?

[Babayaro.]

No, what they've done is give him a reality check and a taste of his own medicine, he's played his game by hurting people and causing upset, but he always dealt with it like there were no victims, well there was a very big victim of his game and he was confronted by her last night and he he showed himself to not have any conscious or heart whatsoever.

To have his 'ex'-girlfriend in front of him, crying her eyes out and spilling her guts about how bad he had hurt and humiliated her, to only smirk and shrug at her showed him to be the scumbag I thought he was all along, even after the event, he went on to slag her off, like how dare she come on here and try to mug me off?! he proved tonight that he isn't a good person, cheats are disgusting in general, but to be so heartless and nonchalant about it, like it was inevitable and that she should have expected it and she should should be grateful that it was now rather than later, just goes to show how much of a nasty piece of work that 'man' (I use that word very loosely in his case) really is, the only person he cares about is himself and that's how it will always be.

I'm under no illusion that he'll go tonight, he'll still probably make the final and win, but with the likes of Stephanie and Scotty being the top 2 of the January series, I can't say I'll be that surprised, people seem to love cheaters these days for some reason.

Fantastic post :clap1:

[Withano]

All housemates got friends and family, he was the only one to get something negative. Bots was also anti Bear, when only recently it has always been pro Bear. :suspect:

I dont think yesterday was supposed to be for or against Bear, I think BB just got payed a good amount of money to promote that other show.

They would have bought her on regardless of their current relationship status. Had Bear have not cheated on her, it would have been a cute reunion. Had bear get down on his knees, admit he was wrong and cry in pain, he would have won the entire show very easily. But Bear just shrugged his shoulders and spent the day justifying his behaviour and I think a lot if people have reevaluated Bears character.

[Jake.]

I think he just wanted to talk to her in private. Not like this.

Should've dumped her "in private" then

[Vanessa]

I dont think yesterday was supposed to be for or against Bear, I think BB just got payed a good amount of money to promote that other show.

They would have bought her on regardless of their current relationship status. Had Bear have not cheated on her, it would have been a cute reunion. Had bear get down on his knees, admit he was wrong and cry in pain, he would have won the entire show very easily. But Bear just shrugged his shoulders and spent the day justifying his behaviour and I think a lot if people have reevaluated Bears character.

Meh, it's all scripted. I don't believe any of it. Even though, I love Bear. :laugh:

[Cal.]

Should've dumped her "in private" then

.

[Vanessa]

Should've dumped her "in private" then

He should have waited until after the show, I agree

[Mitchell]

I bet they wouldn't put this woman that Lewis has on the outside. They can't have their precious Lewnie looking bad.

He's said that she doesn't want fame or to be on tv

[hot2go]

BB aren't doing anything,Bear has done it,it's his game,looks like he may have played it wrong,Marco got slated for this why is it different for Bear?

I know we disagree on this one :laugh: And I understand people who feel sorry for her but you know I said the same thing about Marco too...and about Steph....I really am only interested in what they do with other housemates...I don't think BB should bring real life into a programme that is suppose to about the housemates. Reality stars real lives aren't real anyway, not even the ones they claim to be engaged.
If people choose to get engaged to Marco or Bear or Steph then they are stupid anyway.

[rusticgal]

I don't think so. They definitely want him gone.

So do we...:laugh:

[Livia]

So do we...:laugh:

Ain't that the truth?!

[Tom4784]

If he gets evicted it'll be because people are tired of his ****. There's no grand conspiracy here other than Bear is a twat and people are probably beyond bored of him at this point.

[caprimint]

...but none of the other housemates cheated on their partners publicly and publicly 'dumped them' though Vanessa...don't worry though lovely, he'll be right..it all had to be done as part of his redemption arc and he'll be that final and probably win...:hug:..
So because he made a mistake that makes it okay for him not to get any kind of support from his friends/family? :conf:

[rocket]

So do we...:laugh:

Yes !! The sooner the better..
Have wanted rid from the word go. :dance:

[Samm]

He didn't make a mistake, he did it on purpose to create a storyline, can't believe people keep falling for attention seekers on this show

[Vicky.]

His would have been a nice reunion like everyone elses though but he messed it up himself. Kinda blows the ridiculous 'redemption' editing claims out of the window though as they definitely aren't doing him any favours :p

[caprimint]

He didn't make a mistake, he did it on purpose to create a storyline, can't believe people keep falling for attention seekers on this show
Only Bear himself knows what his intentions were, there's not much point in anyone else saying it was this or that when it's just guesses based on whether you are choosing to see him in a positive/negative light. He did also make a point of saying that he wants to see Chloe on the outside, so it's not like he just had his fun and isn't interested anymore. :shrug:

[Samm]

Only Bear himself knows what his intentions were, there's not much point in anyone else saying it was this or that when it's just guesses based on whether you are choosing to see him in a positive/negative light. He did also make a point of saying that he wants to see Chloe on the outside, so it's not like he just had his fun and isn't interested anymore. :shrug:

He's been on countless reality TV shows, he knows what works even ex on the beach, and they all say that how they want to see who ever they snogged in the house on the outside it isn't anything new.

[Alf]

Without a doubt Vanessa, you're absolutely right. It's quite blatant discriminatory manipulation.

And also just look at Ricky finding his voice now he's up for eviction, and the sad thing is, people will actually buy it.

[Niamh.]

He's been on countless reality TV shows, he knows what works even ex on the beach, and they all say that how they want to see who ever they snogged in the house on the outside it isn't anything new.

No doubt he will for a bit, to milk whatever publicity he (and she i have no doubt) can from it

[erinp5]

Karma !

[Samm]

No doubt he will for a bit, to milk whatever publicity he (and she i have doubt) can from it

Yeah, that's the usual pattern a few headlines in the daily mirror or whatever selling the story and they'll be on different paths by the week after

[Vicky.]

I reckon he might see Chloe for a night or two but then that will be it. She doesn't seem like...a more than a one night stand girl. I really didn't know a better way to put that. Shes not really someone you would like to meet your parents, nor is Bear tbh

[ebandit]

who? cares about winning....bear gave the house .....that cocktail

the stoopidity of modern life caricatured in a single moment
Mark L

[sampvt]

Maybe its by designed, he comes out, makes up with her, they get together and milk the tabloids, end of story and a big pay cheque for the bad boy turned good.

[Vicky.]

Maybe its by designed, he comes out, makes up with her, they get together and milk the tabloids, end of story and a big pay cheque for the bad boy turned good.

I wouldn't be completely surprised tbh. I hope this is wrong though but ther eis a little voice saying to me that she is a 'reality star' aswell and they thrive off stuff like this :S

[caprimint]

He's been on countless reality TV shows, he knows what works even ex on the beach, and they all say that how they want to see who ever they snogged in the house on the outside it isn't anything new.
With the way he's acted in the house he wouldn't have even had to 'get with' Chloe because he's done enough on his own to get the headlines. I just think it's unfair to assume that because of his past that's all he wants because nobody really knows.

[T*]

They've got their money's worth now- it's time for him to go and honestly good riddance

[Vanessa]

He has been stitched up, so I hope he stays just to piss off the haters and big brother.

[Vanessa]

It's weird how even Rylan, who is always so impartial has joined in on the Anti Bear show on last night Bots. Almost like they were all told to slag him off. Anyone who wanted to support him was quickly dismissed :suspect:

[Ramsay]

World War 2 was fake

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/008/305/its-a-conspiracy.jpg

[delta]

Absolutely! There was no remorse. It was obvious he was only bothered about himself.


Not seen the latest couple of episodes just a bit from CBBbots where his ex came in and then the diary room footage...



Bear being all for himself, that's nothing new. Look at the Bear/Lewis alliance it's all one sided....Bear doesn't give a flying frig about Lewis and repeatedly said he was on 'team Marnie' if the smelly stuff hits the fan.

They all went in the house as individuals and likewise they exit the same way... Bear has played the best game and has been the most entertaining and is fascinating to watch, he'd be a psychiatrist's wet dream. Yes. he's selfish, probably annoying to those in there, but a lot of time he's doing it for a reason, as he says, there are some that just haven't contributed along the journey whatsoever and are hoping to win by being un-noticed. In Bear's mind and the game he is playing that just ain't right.

[Vanessa]

Not seen the latest couple of episodes just a bit from CBBbots where his ex came in and then the diary room footage...



Bear being all for himself, that's nothing new. Look at the Bear/Lewis alliance it's all one sided....Bear doesn't give a flying frig about Lewis and repeatedly said he was on 'team Marnie' if the smelly stuff hits the fan.

They all went in the house as individuals and likewise they exit the same way... Bear has played the best game and has been the most entertaining and is fascinating to watch, he'd be a psychiatrist's wet dream. Yes. he's selfish, probably annoying to those in there, but a lot of time he's doing it for a reason, as he says, there are some that just haven't contributed along the journey whatsoever and are hoping to win by being un-noticed. In Bear's mind and the game he is playing that just ain't right.

Spot on! :clap1:

[y.winter]

These days someone who plays for the cameras and breaks eggs in the garden every three days is enough to be entertaining.

Your entertainment's value is playing the limbo.

[chuff me dizzy]

I felt really sorry for him last night, he was stitched up while all the others got fluffy puppies ,messages and visits from loved ones

[y.winter]

I felt really sorry for him last night, he was stitched up while all the others got fluffy puppies ,messages and visits from loved ones

He did get a visit from his loved one.
It's not their fault he treats his loved ones the way he does :umm2:

[chuff me dizzy]

He did get a visit from his loved one.
It's not their fault he treats his loved ones the way he does :umm2:

No one knows what their relationship was like before BB

[y.winter]

No one knows what their relationship was like before BB

So let's all pretend Bear is an innocent little boy that accidentally slipped in the garden (because of the eggs that "accidentaly" fell off his hands) and got trapped inbetween Chloe's gigantic breasts.
Do you really think that he has nothing to do with what happened (=what he did)? Doesn't it just sit so perfectly with his other personality traits which he showed throughout the whole series?

You can root for the villain of the series, fine, but don't pull the wool over your own eyes.

[chuff me dizzy]

So let's all pretend Bear is an innocent little boy that accidentally slipped in the garden (because of the eggs that "accidentaly" fell off his hands) and got trapped inbetween Chloe's gigantic breasts.
Do you really think that he has nothing to do with what happened (=what he did)? Doesn't it just sit so perfectly with his other personality traits which he showed throughout the whole series?

You can root for the villain of the series, fine, but don't pull the wool over your own eyes.

Its called .F.U.N and E.N.T.E.R.T.A.I.N.M.E.N.T ........... Something I watch BB for ,but carry on enjoying Rickys silent sitting in a chair in the garden

[y.winter]

Its called .F.U.N and E.N.T.E.R.T.A.I.N.M.E.N.T ........... Something I watch BB for ,but carry on enjoying Rickys silent sitting in a chair in the garden

1. How is it relevant to what we're discussing?
2. Slapstick humor has to have more credibility to entertain me. Or you know, not do the same "fun" thing two days in a row.
3. I didn't say anything about Ricky. The fact that I dislike Bear doesn't mean that I automatically root for the competitor. I don't feel obligated doing so. You can like blue, even when the options are black or white.

[Vanessa]

Glad it backfired on them! :joker:

[chuff me dizzy]

Glad it backfired on them! :joker:

Same here :dance::dance:

[Clootie Dumpling]

He got his girlfriend! ...

Maybe she was booked before he started slobbering all over Chloe & she decided she'd still go in because she wanted to confront him?

[jet]

No, what they've done is give him a reality check and a taste of his own medicine, he's played his game by hurting people and causing upset, but he always dealt with it like there were no victims, well there was a very big victim of his game and he was confronted by her last night and he he showed himself to not have any conscious or heart whatsoever.

To have his 'ex'-girlfriend in front of him, crying her eyes out and spilling her guts about how bad he had hurt and humiliated her, to only smirk and shrug at her showed him to be the scumbag I thought he was all along, even after the event, he went on to slag her off, like how dare she come on here and try to mug me off?! he proved tonight that he isn't a good person, cheats are disgusting in general, but to be so heartless and nonchalant about it, like it was inevitable and that she should have expected it and she should should be grateful that it was now rather than later, just goes to show how much of a nasty piece of work that 'man' (I use that word very loosely in his case) really is, the only person he cares about is himself and that's how it will always be.

I'm under no illusion that he'll go tonight, he'll still probably make the final and win, but with the likes of Stephanie and Scotty being the top 2 of the January series, I can't say I'll be that surprised, people seem to love cheaters these days for some reason.

Great post :clap1::clap1::clap1:

[jet]

So let's all pretend Bear is an innocent little boy that accidentally slipped in the garden (because of the eggs that "accidentaly" fell off his hands) and got trapped inbetween Chloe's gigantic breasts.
Do you really think that he has nothing to do with what happened (=what he did)? Doesn't it just sit so perfectly with his other personality traits which he showed throughout the whole series?

You can root for the villain of the series, fine, but don't pull the wool over your own eyes.

:laugh: The wool is well and truly pulled over the eyes and the ears of Bear idolizers.

[sungrass]

It's like he served his purpose and not they don't need him anymore. :shrug:

I was concerned last night as well - so I voted - which I never do as I cant afford it. He has to win over the rest of them - theyre all awfull - Frankies alright

[sungrass]

Lillie is fame hungry - she dates famous people - shes been on ex on the beach...she knows the game.

[Vanessa]

Now I'm excited to see the show tonight. Bear is still in! :cheer2:

[Amy Jade]

Its called .F.U.N and E.N.T.E.R.T.A.I.N.M.E.N.T ........... Something I watch BB for ,but carry on enjoying Rickys silent sitting in a chair in the garden

Sorry but the irony that Jason did exactly the latter and you fully supported him is genuinely hilarious as you look down your nose at people supporting somebody you class as boring :laugh2:

[caprimint]

I was concerned last night as well - so I voted - which I never do as I cant afford it. He has to win over the rest of them - theyre all awfull - Frankies alright
Save the rest of your votes for the finale as that's when he'll need them - he won't have an issue getting through the next double eviction if they're all up because he has a personality. Frankie deffo needs to be top 3.

[Babayaro.]

Sorry but the irony that Jason did exactly the latter and you fully supported him is genuinely hilarious as you look down your nose at people supporting somebody you class as boring :laugh2:

Even though I was a Jason fan, I can still see the irony in this lol

[Tom4784]

No one knows what their relationship was like before BB

You could say that for everyone. He wanted a storyline and he got it, he probably was glad his ex went in. It kept him the center of attention.

[Lostie!]

No one knows what their relationship was like before BB

What difference does it make? Doesn't change what he did.

[Cal.]

Pretty sure chuff was the person who insinuated Charlie domestically abused Jason? I can't be 100% sure and I'm sorry if I'm wrong but it would be odd if you did insinuate something like that because you hated Charlie and then defended Bear a matter of weeks later for no one knowing what his relationship was like...

[chuff me dizzy]

Save the rest of your votes for the finale as that's when he'll need them - he won't have an issue getting through the next double eviction if they're all up because he has a personality. Frankie deffo needs to be top 3.

Yes Tuesday will be a breeze for Bear, Emma,Rylan and co must be well pissed off that the public love him and pick up their phones to save him :joker:

[Babayaro.]

Yes Tuesday will be a breeze for Bear, Emma,Rylan and co must be well pissed off that the public love him and pick up their phones to save him :joker:

:fc: this is the mentality for all Bear fans, because if so, he might be in danger!!

[caprimint]

Yes Tuesday will be a breeze for Bear, Emma,Rylan and co must be well pissed off that the public love him and pick up their phones to save him :joker:
If Lillie and her crying can't evict him then nothing will. :flutter:

[Amy Jade]

If Lillie and her crying can't evict him then nothing will. :flutter:

She was crying because he cheated on her, most of us have sympathy for her :flutter:

[sampvt]

She was crying because he cheated on her, most of us have sympathy for her :flutter:

She didn't have to go in there and she has an agent who probably negotiated her terms which will have included monetary reward, so I cant support her feelings as she didn't have any reason to go in there for emotional purposes, so it must have been money driven which makes her every bit as bad as Bear.

[Adamw92]

I'm sorry but its really laughable that anyone can claim they want Bear out when the focus is on him almost every single episode and everyone calls it 'The Bear Show'. Kinda points towards the producers believing they have no show without him but they would if he were to go.

[-Sue-]

oh for crying out loud sympathy for him? really? not a chance...

He got a pressy what WOULD have been his GF ....

but as he is a no good CHEATER ...what would have been a good pressy (his GF) was turned sour by HIS own actions!!!!!! Got exactly what he deserved to finally be held accountable for his lieing cheating antics with Chloe

BB are NOT to blame for anything they gave him a visitor but HIS choices during the show shot him in the foot really..HE is to blame...not so funny now is he eh.

It's called karma and it's pronounced ahahahahahahahahaha

[-Sue-]

I have zero empathy for a dickhead like him to be quite honest....

we have seen Bear belittle barate etc other Hms over the simplest of things yet we are to give him sympathy when neither we the viewers (whom may have stopped watching because of his antics) whom he has spoilt the show for...

nor do is fellow HMs owe him a thing after the way he has treated them (but they do becasuse they are goodpeople)..
so many other reasons but I really can't be arsed to list as he has ruined CBB for me and I loathe him...
he can simply 'made his bed, now lie in it' and when he has done that he can go f himself then fk himself some more...

so the minute Bear has something happen to HIM its no longer funny? but when bad things happen to other Hms its hilarious got it! crazyness

If I could pop 1 Hm into a rocket and send them to the moon bear would be my choice YOU off my planet vermin..

[-Sue-]

oh one last thing... CBB has given Bear ENDLESS warnings .. ENDLESS tellings off ... infact the sun has shone out of his arse in EVERYTHING he has gotten away with where other HMs antics from this and other shows have not...and you think they want him out???

STOP blaming BB/CBB for things that may/may not happen to Bear when really HE is responsible for all he says and does...

what comes of his own actions are 100% upto him

eg if he hadn't shagged a woman in the house his ex would still be his GF and people would be saying 'oh howwonderful BB are putting his gf in there' but because Bear shagged someone else... it didnt seem so fun did it..

cheaters that get caught get exactly what they deserve.. **snip snip**

[Wizard.]

Well I hope they succeed. Put him up against Ricky and Renee on Tuesday and see how well he does.

[Maru]

Maybe BB coudnt get any family and friends to go on. :shrug:

I thought this was a real possibility too