Bear injuring Sam's eye

[Amy Jade]

This series is an absolute joke - Biggins kicked out for controversial comments but physically harming another housemate is fine?

[Pete.]

If he's injured her he should get kicked out (and he fractured her eye membrane). Honestly Ofcom should be regulating the producers not the content

[reece(:]

Plus he was on his final warning was he not.........

[Vanessa]

How many threads do we need about this? One is not enough? :laugh:

[Alf]

Sam over-exaggerating as usual.

[jaxie]

I'm afraid I have to take what Sam says with a pinch of salt unless we actually see it because she comes over to me as someone who is mostly drunk or on something and she exaggerates wildly. 16 marshmellows became 19. Obviously if Bear had hurt her deliberately he should have been evicted, but without seeing it, it might not have happened in the way it was told and could have been an insignificant accident. We have to judge on the facts we see.

[y.winter]

Finish this series alreadyyy. Ugh, so many flaws in 4 weeks, it's a disgrace.

[Amy Jade]

How many threads do we need about this? One is not enough? :laugh:

Don't you come for me when you make about 10 similar Bear threads a day Vanessa.

[Vicky.]

I knew there would be a fuss about this...in Sams own words he...squirted water at her. Jesus...

[Vanessa]

I knew there would be a fuss about this...in Sams own words he...squirted water at her. Jesus...

Exactly, it was an accident.

[Glenn-C]

Don't you come for me when you make about 10 similar Bear threads a day Vanessa.
.

[Kazanne]

I'm afraid I have to take what Sam says with a pinch of salt unless we actually see it because she comes over to me as someone who is mostly drunk or on something and she exaggerates wildly. 16 marshmellows became 19. Obviously if Bear had hurt her deliberately he should have been evicted, but without seeing it, it might not have happened in the way it was told and could have been an insignificant accident. We have to judge on the facts we see.

Well BB would have the footage so she'de be a fool to lie

[Serg]

Don't you come for me when you make about 10 similar Bear threads a day Vanessa.

:clap1:

[bots]

oh it was bear ... so it was just a prank clearly and Sam was making it all up ... yeah right

[Vicky.]

I'm afraid I have to take what Sam says with a pinch of salt unless we actually see it because she comes over to me as someone who is mostly drunk or on something and she exaggerates wildly. 16 marshmellows became 19. Obviously if Bear had hurt her deliberately he should have been evicted, but without seeing it, it might not have happened in the way it was told and could have been an insignificant accident. We have to judge on the facts we see.

If it happened exactly as she said, there isn't even an issue, though those who dislike Bear will obviously make it into one. Yes her contact lense got stuck, hence medic. But squirting water at someone does not an aggressive act make...

[Amy Jade]

I knew there would be a fuss about this...in Sams own words he...squirted water at her. Jesus...

He tricked her into looking into a bottle and squirted water so hard into her eyes she had to wear a patch.

If somebody did that to you in work or did it to a child of yours in school and injured them I'm sure you would want it dealt with.

[chuff me dizzy]

Sam over-exaggerating as usual.

Trying her hardest to swallow the sour grapes :joker:

[Withano]

Bears best case scenario was he accidentally put two women in physical pain in the space of the month. His best case scenario describes a twat, can we not defend this please. Its completely gross.

Worst case scenario he intentionally attempted to irritate/humiliate/hurt at least two women and should have been ejected long ago. MTV probably demanded a good edit.

[Beso]

This series is an absolute joke - Biggins kicked out for controversial comments but physically harming another housemate is fine?

2 words



custard pie.

[Vicky.]

He tricked her into looking into a bottle and squirted water so hard into her eyes she had to wear a patch.

If somebody did that to you in work or did it to a child of yours in school and injured them I'm sure you would want it dealt with.

Dealt with in what way? I may call them a twat and then that would be it. Its an accident...jesus. I have had a bloody contact go up under my eyelid just from turning to look at something too fast, so its not exactly rare.

If someone did it to a child, thats quite different and I am sure you know that. Though I don't know any kids who wear contacts, so I don't think it could actually happen...

[susie q]

Well BB would have the footage so she'de be a fool to lie

Which could come in useful if she decides to "sue". Oh and the number of times has Bear been warned about his actions hurting people, would be useful too. Having said that Bear will of course be "Let off" as usual.

[jaxie]

If it happened exactly as she said, there isn't even an issue, though those who dislike Bear will obviously make it into one. Yes her contact lense got stuck, hence medic. But squirting water at someone does not an aggressive act make...

Well yes but she was obviously making a big deal of it in how she went on about it.

[Vicky.]

However, I don't see why BB cut it all out..that is rather weird. Especially given they showed like 10 mins of Bear talking about the party. I know they had shorter highlights than usual tonight but come on...

[jaxie]

Bears best case scenario was he accidentally put two women in physical pain in the space of the month. His best case scenario describes a twat, can we not defend this please. Its completely gross.

Worst case scenario he intentionally attempted to irritate/humiliate/hurt at least two women and should have been ejected long ago. MTV probably demanded a good edit.

It sounded like an accident with some water to me. What second woman did he physically hurt? :shrug:

It's not as bad as spitting in someones food and drink and letting them masticate it.

[user104658]

This exact thing actually happened with two of my friends when I was a teen... one threw a drink at the other as a joke and it knocked his contact lens up under his eyelid. Should he have called the police? :shrug:

Yes it's a stupid prank but it's an accident, he didn't intend to hurt anyone, and probably had no idea she was wearing contact lesnes. All that's required in a situation like that is an explanation of why it's a bad idea / dangerous... you don't punish people for a mistake as if they intended it.

[Amy Jade]

It's no accident if he tricked her into looking into the bottle. He intended, at least, to humiliate her. They aren't friends so he didn't do it to make her laugh.

[Northern Monkey]

Sounds like an accident.Plus she pied him before.It's not his fault she's got dodgy eyes and needs contacts

[reece(:]

Sounds like an accident.Plus she pied him before.It's not his fault she's got dodgy eyes and needs contacts

Is this post serious?

[Vicky.]

It's no accident if he tricked her into looking into the bottle. He intended, at least, to humiliate her. They aren't friends so he didn't do it to make her laugh.

erm, thats kind of how it works. noone would fall for it if you said 'look into this bottle and I will squirt water at you' :D

[user104658]

Bears best case scenario was he accidentally put two women in physical pain in the space of the month. His best case scenario describes a twat, can we not defend this please. Its completely gross.

Worst case scenario he intentionally attempted to irritate/humiliate/hurt at least two women and should have been ejected long ago. MTV probably demanded a good edit.

Why do you keep emphasising "women"? Is it because women are precious wittle flowers who we must handle with kiddy gloves and cotton wool? :hehe: I know Sam still lives back in the 80's with mumsy but the rest of us have made it all the way to 2016.

And no I'm not saying it's "ok to beat up women", I'm just saying that we have at some point - surely - realised that they are not precious flowers who are off-limits for physical contact.

[rusticgal]

How many threads do we need about this? One is not enough? :laugh:


Trying to match the amount you have started on Bear..:laugh:..:wavey:

[user104658]

It's no accident if he tricked her into looking into the bottle. He intended, at least, to humiliate her. They aren't friends so he didn't do it to make her laugh.

I heard he actually had petrol in the bottle... but Ricky stopped him before he could reach his lighter :omgno:

[Vanessa]

Trying to match the amount you have started on Bear..:laugh:..:wavey:

But they're both about the same thing :facepalm:

[sampvt]

He tricked her into looking into a bottle and squirted water so hard into her eyes she had to wear a patch.

If somebody did that to you in work or did it to a child of yours in school and injured them I'm sure you would want it dealt with.

Nah, most of us would look at it as a joke gone bad with no malice intended, but there again, most of us are not PC and dont take life so seriously

[Amy Jade]

erm, thats kind of how it works. noone would fall for it if you said 'look into this bottle and I will squirt water at you' :D

Well I think it's a horrible thing to do, she clearly never found it funny and it resulted in her being injured.

If you find that funny then go ahead, I find it dangerous and pathetic.

[Amy Jade]

But they're both about the same thing :facepalm:

So are most of your bear threads

[rusticgal]

Sam over-exaggerating as usual.


He obviously didn't deliberately do it to dislodge her contact lense ffs..
Sam does like to talk about herself and big herself up...she was embarressing tonight.

[hot2go]

Clearly wasn't intending to damage her eye.....people will jump on any chance to paint him in a bad way and I find it boring....Sam is a bitter person anyway....her whole interview was negative as was her face throughout and again tonight

[Vanessa]

He obviously didn't deliberately do it to dislodge her contact lense ffs..
Sam does like to talk about herself and big herself up...she was embarressing tonight.

She was trying to get him in trouble. But all he did is squirt some water. Hardly assault :laugh:

[jaxie]

Well I think it's a horrible thing to do, she clearly never found it funny and it resulted in her being injured.

If you find that funny then go ahead, I find it dangerous and pathetic.

Spitting in someones food and drink and letting them consume it is a terrible thing to do but you still like Aubrey. :shrug:

[Vicky.]

Well I think it's a horrible thing to do, she clearly never found it funny and it resulted in her being injured.

If you find that funny then go ahead, I find it dangerous and pathetic.

And if he did it again after finding out how much she disliked it and knowing it may possibly injure her then he would be very wrong..I agree :shrug:

[user104658]

she was embarressing tonight.

She's been embarrassing throughout the series :hehe:

[rusticgal]

She was trying to get him in trouble. But all he did is squirt some water. Hardly assault :laugh:

Let's be honest Vanessa..Bear doesn't need anyone to get him in trouble. :joker:

[Vicky.]

I heard he actually had petrol in the bottle... but Ricky stopped him before he could reach his lighter :omgno:

I think this is the best way to deal with this from now on tbh :laugh2:

[Amy Jade]

Spitting in someones food and drink and letting them consume it is a terrible thing to do but you still like Aubrey. :shrug:

I didn't justify Aubrey doing that and called her disgusting. What's your point?

I actually have morals and won't justify things just because I like a housemate thank you very much.

[Absorption]

I'm afraid I have to take what Sam says with a pinch of salt unless we actually see it because she comes over to me as someone who is mostly drunk or on something and she exaggerates wildly. 16 marshmellows became 19. Obviously if Bear had hurt her deliberately he should have been evicted, but without seeing it, it might not have happened in the way it was told and could have been an insignificant accident. We have to judge on the facts we see.

She did 16 initially, then tried to beat Marnie's 20 but managed to add 3 more, hence 19 is correct.

[rusticgal]

She's been embarrassing throughout the series :hehe:


Tbh I liked her at first...but she thought she was bigger and better than anyone else...put me right off.

[Withano]

Why do you keep emphasising "women"? Is it because women are precious wittle flowers who we must handle with kiddy gloves and cotton wool? :hehe: I know Sam still lives back in the 80's with mumsy but the rest of us have made it all the way to 2016.

And no I'm not saying it's "ok to beat up women", I'm just saying that we have at some point - surely - realised that they are not precious flowers who are off-limits for physical contact.

Oh im sorry genders exist. But i dont think its a coincidence personally, we saw how fast he conceded when the bigger guy came in the room. We might be moving towards equality but that doesnt mean Bear didnt intentionally choose weaker targets.

[Vanessa]

Let's be honest Vanessa..Bear doesn't need anyone to get him in trouble. :joker:

He probably had no idea she was wearing contacts. Neither did i.

[Vicky.]

She did 16 initially, then tried to beat Marnie's 20 but managed to add 3 more, hence 19 is correct.

Was this cut for the main show? I saw her add another one and fail to get it in. Wondering if maybe on a FB vid (whcih I havent seen all series) it was extended or something?

That task was stupid anyway. Everyone else got much easier stuff...and stuff BB could judge however they chose to rather than there be a clear winner.

Eg. Lewis shaving his pubes would clearly beat Bear shaving and eyebrow :laugh:

[Jake.]

How many threads do we need about this? One is not enough? :laugh:

This is hilarious lol

[Amy Jade]

He probably had no idea she was wearing contacts. Neither did i.

He lives with her of course he knew, she's worn glasses for half the series was she wandering around blind?

[reece(:]

He probably had no idea she was wearing contacts. Neither did i.

He lives with her YOU don't

[Northern Monkey]

Was this cut for the main show? I saw her add another one and fail to get it in. Wondering if maybe on a FB vid (whcih I havent seen all series) it was extended or something?

That task was stupid anyway. Everyone else got much easier stuff...and stuff BB could judge however they chose to rather than there be a clear winner.

Eg. Lewis shaving his pubes would clearly beat Bear shaving and eyebrow :laugh:

Well Ricky did'nt seem to think it was easy.He bottled it straight away:laugh:

[Vicky.]

Well Ricky did'nt seem to think it was easy.He bottled it straight away:laugh:

Definitely not a Ricky fan, but he was NOT going to beat Frankie in most outrageous no matter what he did. I understood him doing nothing :laugh:

[Northern Monkey]

Definitely not a Ricky fan, but he was NOT going to beat Frankie in most outrageous no matter what he did. I understood him doing nothing :laugh:

Do you think he would have tried any of the challenges?The marshmallows?

I don't think he would

[Vicky.]

Do you think he would have tried any of the challenges?The marshmallows?

I don't think he would

Dunno, maybe not. Seems to not want to be set up to look like an idiot.

[T*]

If Sam injured Bear's eye there would be a ****ing uproar

[Vicky.]

If Sam injured Bear's eye there would be a ****ing uproar

Sure there would :whistle:

'Well done for finally biting back'
'go on gurrrrrl'
'he deserved that'

Etc.

meanwhile Bear would laugh it off and nothing else would be said about it :D Much like when he ate a saliva sandwich which would make most people kick off.

[Vanessa]

Sure there would :whistle:

'Well done for finally biting back'
'go on gurrrrrl'
'he deserved that'

Etc.

meanwhile Bear would laugh it off and nothing else would be said about it :D Much like when he ate a saliva sandwich which would make most people kick off.

If Sam had done it everyone here would have said that he deserved it. No question about it.

[user104658]

If Sam injured Bear's eye there would be a ****ing uproar

No there wouldn't, stop grasping at straws :joker:

[T*]

Sure there would :whistle:

'Well done for finally biting back'
'go on gurrrrrl'
'he deserved that'

Etc.

meanwhile Bear would laugh it off and nothing else would be said about it :D Much like when he ate a saliva sandwich which would make most people kick off.
Honey he would be screaming RUUUTHLESS and trying to stir up drama

No there wouldn't, stop grasping at straws :joker:
'WHAT A DISGUSTING BITTER WOMAN SHE DID THAT ON PURPOSE'

[Amy Jade]

No there wouldn't, stop grasping at straws :joker:

Seems to be working well for you

[user104658]

Seems to be working well for you
No that's u that is.

[joeysteele]

I knew there would be a fuss about this...in Sams own words he...squirted water at her. Jesus...

Exactly, a likely storm in a teacup incident again.

[Vanessa]

It was probably just a joke and things went wrong. I doubt he intended to hurt her.

[power2thepeople]

Two edits available. Bad Bear with the water. But even though I detest Bear, you may have a glimmer of hope re the edits that could follow it. Aubrey has just gone for Bear in a big way on live feed. She completely lost it!

[Marsh.]

Don't you come for me when you make about 10 similar Bear threads a day Vanessa.

:joker:

[Marsh.]

2 words



custard pie.

Initiated by BB asking the housemates to do this.

Ejecting a housemate for doing something asked of them by the producers would be pretty silly.

Let's not pretend she randomly threw custard pies to make a non-point.

[Marsh.]

It's not his fault she's got dodgy eyes

DEATH

[Marcus.]

If Sam injured Bear's eye there would be a ****ing uproar

oh no some one on live feed as said if bear feels he in danger he dose is signal
arms up

[ThriceShy]

Bears best case scenario was he accidentally put two women in physical pain in the space of the month. His best case scenario describes a twat, can we not defend this please. Its completely gross.

Worst case scenario he intentionally attempted to irritate/humiliate/hurt at least two women and should have been ejected long ago. MTV probably demanded a good edit.

Aubrey's spitting was far worse and very very deliberate.

[Marsh.]

Aubrey's spitting was far worse and very very deliberate.

Which resulted in Bear being hurt.... oh wait no he asked for more spit to be directed into his mouth.

[Marsh.]

oh no some one on live feed as said if bear feels he in danger he dose is signal
arms up

No, arms up means he's getting a blow job.

[Amy Jade]

Aubrey's spitting was far worse and very very deliberate.

Was he injured though?

Because Sam was.

[Maxxie.]

I don't think I can bare to watch BB until 24 hour live feed is back, defeats the whole purpose of the show and producers can fix anything. I'd understand this not being shown if it was in some sort of live feed but viewers need to see things like this.

[ThriceShy]

Was he injured though?

Because Sam was.

He had to seek medical advice for potential infection.

You can't compare an accident to deliberate spitting.

[the truth]

they were arguing over a mask

[Amy Jade]

He had to seek medical advice for potential infection.

You can't compare an accident to deliberate spitting.

Both were deliberate.

[Ammi]

If it happened exactly as she said, there isn't even an issue, though those who dislike Bear will obviously make it into one. Yes her contact lense got stuck, hence medic. But squirting water at someone does not an aggressive act make...

...to be fair though, Vicky...it's been a two way thing with the Bears and the non Bears and always is in the silly season when all objectivity goes when it comes to favourite and least favourite housemates...

This exact thing actually happened with two of my friends when I was a teen... one threw a drink at the other as a joke and it knocked his contact lens up under his eyelid. Should he have called the police? :shrug:

Yes it's a stupid prank but it's an accident, he didn't intend to hurt anyone, and probably had no idea she was wearing contact lesnes. All that's required in a situation like that is an explanation of why it's a bad idea / dangerous... you don't punish people for a mistake as if they intended it.


..this is the crux of it though for me..I don't think there was any intention to cause her discomfort or have medic attention but it's the sort of thing without any thought that someone much younger would do and the potential danger of a few of his 'pranks and lols'..like the oil on the floor was...I mean, we all know that you don't mess with the eyes by squirting anything in at such close range of asking her to put her eye right up to and the added thing of her wearing contacts...which he would know that she did because they've shared a house for 4 weeks or whatever...just no thought at all and no adult mindset...


...anyways, she's fine I presume and no matter what 'pranks' he has in store or does, he's going to win..that was fairly much decreed from the off....

[user104658]

...anyways, she's fine I presume and no matter what 'pranks' he has in store or does, he's going to win..that was fairly much decreed from the off....

"Someone I don't think should win might win! Fix! It's a fix!"

:nono: You're better than this, Ammi!

[Ammi]

"Someone I don't think should win might win! Fix! It's a fix!"

:nono: You're better than this, Ammi!

..:laugh:..stop with your waggy finger, TS...I don't believe 'fix', no..there is an ocean of difference between fix and manipulation of a viewing audience that BB know so well and of making it all The Bear Show and etc and yadi yadi yah...

[user104658]

..[emoji23]..stop with your waggy finger, TS...I don't believe 'fix', no..there is an ocean of difference between fix and manipulation of a viewing audience that BB know so well and of making it all The Bear Show and etc and yadi yadi yah...
And Katie Waissell lost The X Factor because her gran was an OAP porn star, and not because her performances were awful and she was really irritating...

It's a conspiracy theory which is really not much different from crying fix... You just have to accept that it won't always be your favourite that wins...

[Ammi]

And Katie Waissell lost The X Factor because her gran was an OAP porn star, and not because her performances were awful and she was really irritating...

It's a conspiracy theory which is really not much different from crying fix... You just have to accept that it won't always be your favourite that wins...

...hmm, I can't really comment on that because I wasn't familiar with anything about Granny Waissell, that all came a bit of a revelation...but it is completely different to 'fix' in that there's no vote rigging or anything, just BB knowing their audience and how they're going to 'pitch' each series in terms of their HL shows/what they'll reveal and what they won't reveal etc...it's not 'reality' and it's not balanced but very much the engineering of 'characters'...(I very rarely have a favourite win btw so 'acceptance' really doesn't come that hard...)....

[user104658]

...hmm, I can't really comment on that because I wasn't familiar with anything about Granny Waissell, that all came a bit of a revelation...but it is completely different to 'fix' in that there's no vote rigging or anything, just BB knowing their audience and how they're going to 'pitch' each series in terms of their HL shows/what they'll reveal and what they won't reveal etc...it's not 'reality' and it's not balanced but very much the engineering of 'characters'...(I very rarely have a favourite win btw so 'acceptance' really doesn't come that hard...)....
I don't think it's ever been any different though, I remember the earlier seasons when live-feed was often available and, if you watched live feed, the tone was often totally different to the HL shows... You'd see people talking and joking who the HL shows never showed together, extra things said in conversations that we're omitted to change the implications, etc. The only difference was that live feed was more readily available (was often on E4 half the day) BUT it makes little difference in terms of audience manipulation... Because it was only ever a very small percentage of hardcore fans who actually WATCHED live feed. Most of the voters were basing their opinions on the HL shows - and so the evictions and the winner were still decided in that edited version of the show.

In my opinion the only real difference now is not that there's more manipulation... We're all just reality TV veterans now so we see it easily, whereas in the early years we were all just young sprouts.

[Liam-]

Vile thug, whether he meant to hurt her eye or not, things like that can still be dangerous, even to someone who's not wearing contacts, he doesn't seem to have any sense of logic or awareness, considering he's on a final warning, it should be interesting to see how they handle him when he steps out of line again.

[Ammi]

I don't think it's ever been any different though, I remember the earlier seasons when live-feed was often available and, if you watched live feed, the tone was often totally different to the HL shows... You'd see people talking and joking who the HL shows never showed together, extra things said in conversations that we're omitted to change the implications, etc. The only difference was that live feed was more readily available (was often on E4 half the day) BUT it makes little difference in terms of audience manipulation... Because it was only ever a very small percentage of hardcore fans who actually WATCHED live feed. Most of the voters were basing their opinions on the HL shows - and so the evictions and the winner were still decided in that edited version of the show.

In my opinion the only real difference now is not that there's more manipulation... We're all just reality TV veterans now so we see it easily, whereas in the early years we were all just young sprouts.


..yeah I totally agree with the live-feed and how HL shows..(if someone was just watching them alone...)...were so slanted but even with that though/the omission of stuff etc that sometimes caused context to be lost ...it still wasn't to the extent it is now in that 'characters' were manufactured in the editing with the 'good/evil' thing and not actually that much balance of real people...we still had 'real people' before and more insight to who they were, even with HL editing....

[joeysteele]

Well if Bear wins and I would not be unhappy if he did, he has had a lot of negativity shown throughout consistently in the highlights programmes, many in there have said and done noting so there is no negativity shown possibly from them.

Bear's anger, wilder pranks, thoughtless and less harmful have been shown.
Yet he has survived all evictions and clearly has pleased those viewing the series.
He has been seen as calm, quiet, angry and the total wind up merchant he has chosen to be in the house.
At least we have seen just about all genuine good and bad sides to him.
So if he wins, he does so with a full presentation of himself whether that is good or bad depending on how people see him.

Also I need to add this as to the contact lens issue,one of my friends from School,has worn them since leaving school, around 8 years ago,yet until Christmas just past,I never realised or knew she did until she dropped one of them and all panic was let loose in finding it.

It is very possible indeed to be around someone continually and still 'not' know every detail about them, unless they themselves tell you things.

[chuff me dizzy]

Sam hardly hid her disappointment at not making the final ,and I think she over exaggerated the eye thing ....idiot

[chuff me dizzy]

Well if Bear wins and I would not be unhappy if he did, he has had a lot of negativity shown throughout consistently in the highlights programmes, many in there have said and done noting so there is no negativity shown possibly from them.

Bear's anger, wilder pranks, thoughtless and less harmful have been shown.
Yet he has survived all evictions and clearly has pleased those viewing the series.
He has been seen as calm, quiet, angry and the total wind up merchant he has chosen to be in the house.
At least we have seen just about all genuine good and bad sides to him.
So if he wins, he does so with a full presentation of himself whether that is good or bad depending on how people see him.

Also I need to add this as to the contact lens issue,one of my friends from School,has worn them since leaving school, around 8 years ago,yet until Christmas just past,I never realised or knew she did until she dropped one of them and all panic was let loose in finding it.

It is very possible indeed to be around someone continually and still 'not' know every detail about them, unless they themselves tell you things.

Ive only ever seen Bear get angry once, he's been pushed to the limit ,but stayed calmed and laughed it off ,he's going to get battered from the Yanks and snake boy Ricky now...but all he's got to do it keep his cool and laugh at them ,this will piss them off more than rising to their hatred ,he knows what he's doing ,he will play them like puppets

[JTM45]

Both were deliberate.

And you know that he 'deliberately' went out of his way to hit Sam in the eye, even though you haven't seen what happened ? :bored:

What we do know with 100% certainty though is that Aubrey spitting deliberately, maliciously and totally repulsively in Bear's food will follow her around the attempted celeb comeback circuit like a turd on a string. I'm pretty sure that'll be viewed with even more disgust in the US than it was over here.
I think her selling herself as Miss Compassion USA is gonna' be dead and buried after this. She'll have to settle for Miss Hypocrite USA instead!

[mdook]

In tonight show people will see Bear becoming arrogant and him being saved by the public is getting to his disgusting ego.He is socially not equip to interact with people and not a nice person to be around with.Do not give him the winning prize.Ricky ,Renee or Frankie deserve it more.

[Ian Coke]

Well yes but she was obviously making a big deal of it in how she went on about it.

Can you blame her though? Whatever Bear's like to watch on TV (I can take or leave him) he must be an absolute nightmare to live with. Particularly when it's clear that unless he outed himself as a full-on Nazi, and possibly not even then, the producers aren't going to do anything. He's been on his last warning, what, about five times now?

[bots]

Can't deny that its a bit of a selective edit not to show an event where a housemates actions cause another housemate to receive medical attention whether its a prank or not, its surely for the viewers to decide, and Sam clearly wanted it shown to the public so her withholding permission can't be used as an excuse either.

[Ian Coke]

He had to seek medical advice for potential infection.

Yeah, but for Bear, getting an AIDS test must be like going to the gym for most people. Something you do about once a month.

[Cal.]

I loved how Sam kept mentioning it happened yesterday and Emma trying to say it'll be on tomorrow's highlights when it won't be they just wanted to shut her up about editing. Why would something from 2 days ago be on the highlights today lol

[Clootie Dumpling]

Can't deny that its a bit of a selective edit not to show an event where a housemates actions cause another housemate to receive medical attention whether its a prank or not, its surely for the viewers to decide, and Sam clearly wanted it shown to the public so her withholding permission can't be used as an excuse either.

This is the point, really, and it's very disappointing that BB decided not to show it in an HL show, which showed Bear in a much better light than usual.

There's no balance and it was pathetic how Emma tried to make excuses by saying it would be shown in the next HL show - then backtracking when Sam corrected her about when it happened.

[billy123]

Just another example of why i dont get tied up in any series these days and just laugh at people that get overly defensive and over excited about what is no more real than Coronation street.
I cant wait until this crap either escapes from Chavvel 5 or just ends.
I hate watching a show i once loved suffer a long painful death but i cant stop watching out of some misplaced loyalty to it.

[ScottyT]

Haha the agenda behind these edits are ridiculous. They could of easily of included it in the highlights but they are pushing Bear to win - I don't know why though, he's in the final now there's not much more they can do.

[Vicky.]

Haha the agenda behind these edits are ridiculous. They could of easily of included it in the highlights but they are pushing Bear to win - I don't know why though, he's in the final now there's not much more they can do.

In honesty though, do you think showing this would hurt his chances of winning? People who like him know what he is like...and most beyond those posting here will not see squirting water at someone as an assassination attempt. If anything it could win him more fans :S

The reason for the coverup is a bit of a mystery though, though I can see Sam refusing for it to be shown..then whinging about it. Which is quite possible :S

[joeysteele]

In honesty though, do you think showing this would hurt his chances of winning? People who like him know what he is like...and most beyond those posting here will not see squirting water at someone as an assassination attempt. If anything it could win him more fans :S

The reason for the coverup is a bit of a mystery though, though I can see Sam refusing for it to be shown..then whinging about it. Which is quite possible :S



I would say you have hit the nail on the head there, she is just peeved, and really so at being voted out, the 2nd last of 6 up too.

[Clootie Dumpling]

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I would say you have hit the nail on the head there, she is just peeved, and really so at being voted out, the 2nd last of 6 up too.

Sam would definitely not have refused permission to show it. She seemed surprised that it hadn't been shown.

[Robodog]

Everytime she was nominated she got the right hump.

Considering she had just been evicted, do you trust her to be 100% accurate in that mood?

[chuff me dizzy]

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I would say you have hit the nail on the head there, she is just peeved, and really so at being voted out, the 2nd last of 6 up too.

Never mind peeved Our Sam the nations sweetheart was totally pissed off :joker: