[Vote For Your Winner!] All New Banner Competition: The Results

[Sam]

After just under two weeks of super banner making the results are in:

Edit : I know Emilee is on the poll twice her votes will be added together. Sorry!


Markus - Ashley Tisdale
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f376/imonbb/head.png

Glitter Eyes - Ciara
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/GlitterEyesDesigns/Banners/CiaraButterflyGE.gif

Gemma - JoJo
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/7295/jojobanner1rg9.png

Emilee - Justin Timberlake
http://i13.tinypic.com/2ltq4cm.gif

Lauren - Haines
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l19/LaurenFah/HainesFinal.png

Rory - Lily Allen
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/5182/lily1ns6.jpg

Rory - Sit and Wonder
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6738/lily2ji9.jpg

Andy - Ashley Tisdale
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s32/andybigbro/ATisdale.gif

Andy - JLO
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s32/andybigbro/HGN.jpg

Glitter Eyes - Ashley Tisdale
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/GlitterEyesDesigns/Banners/AshleyUnfinishedGE.gif

[Chrizzle]

I've gone for GlitterEyes, Ciara.

But Mark's Ashley Tisdale came close.

[Sam]

Sorry some of the pics are playing up ill sort them out now

[andybigbro]

Woo 2 of mine are there

Why has Emilee got two of the same banners there lol

[Bells]

Well done finalists!

They're all great. Liked GE - Ciara, Markus - Ashley Tisdale, Andy - J.Lo and Gemma - JoJo the best though.

Ended up voting for GE - Ciara! :thumbs:

[Sam]

Sorry about that hiccup, whoops, emilee does have two, well they will be added together her two.

[SiMoN!]

i am sorry but atleast one of mine are better then one of them

:rolleyes:

[SiMoN!]

anyways voted for Lauren - Haines

[Sam]

I voted Ciara , was my favourite.

[Lauren]

I voted Markus. But I think Simon should have had one up there? His were really good? :sad: As well as Sophie.

Edit: And Ash too!

There was so many banner makers this time.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by SiMoN!
anyways voted for Lauren - Haines

Awww thanks Simon! :love:

[Bells]

Originally posted by SiMoN!
i am sorry but atleast one of mine are better then one of them

:rolleyes:

I don't think mine were 'better' but I wanted one of mine up there this time. :sad:

One of yours, Stacey's and Sophie's should've been there too!

[MarkWaldorf]

Good job everyone.
I voted Laurens one.

[Sophii3x]

Not one of mine *has tantrum* :wink:

Well done finalists! I voted Markus- Ashley Tisdale:bigsmile:

[Sam]

Sorry to all those who didnt make it but it was really hard judging,

[MarkWaldorf]

LOL Thanks Sophie.

[Arneldo]

Voted Rory - Lily Allen

[andybigbro]

i have not got a vote:sad: lol

i thought i submitted better ones than the ones of mien through lol ididnt think the two through of mine were my best? lol

Any way haha

[Sam]

the most anyone had was two up so it shows its more of a balanced competition, but i cant just chose on entry per person because the competition is for the best banners to make it through, not the best per person, Sorry guys! I remember Markus had like 4 or 5 entries in one competition

[Lauren]

Originally posted by snig
the most anyone had was two up so it shows its more of a balanced competition, but i cant just chose on entry per person because the competition is for the best banners to make it through, not the best per person, Sorry guys! I remember Markus had like 4 or 5 entries in one competition

Yeah it's good that there is only a couple of entries per person :thumbs:

There was so many good banner makers this time too.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by andybigbro
i have not got a vote:sad: lol

It's only just started Andy, you'll get votes! :spin2:

[~Kizwiz~]

What about mine?????

How were the finalist chosen? :puzzled:

[Sophii3x]

Originally posted by kizwiz
What about mine?????

How were the finalist chosen? :puzzled:

Sam (snig) chose them

[Bells]

Aww and kiz, yours are ace too! :thumbs: Just cos so many entered, so many good banners…! Doesn’t mean ours are bad. :wink:

[~Kizwiz~]

See all the click got in!!!!! There were no limits to poll entries or you could have had rounds?

Hmmmmm...... dont think I'll bother with the next one.... seems a bit of a sham really

[MarkWaldorf]

Originally posted by kizwiz
See all the click got in!!!!! There were no limits to poll entries or you could have had rounds?

Hmmmmm...... dont think I'll bother with the next one.... seems a bit of a sham really

I was going to do a contest where you have rounds and don't tag the images, so each round you vote not knowing who's banner is who's. But I'm not sure, people seem to prefer this one.

[Bells]

Yeah, or viewers could've chosen finalists.

I've entered several competitions but not had one picked, but I suppose the other banners were better? I reckon more people should have an input though.

Not sure if I'll bother either, takes too much effort! :hugesmile:

[Lauren]

Originally posted by kizwiz
See all the click got in!!!!! There were no limits to poll entries or you could have had rounds?

Hmmmmm...... dont think I'll bother with the next one.... seems a bit of a sham really

Sorry but that kind of invalidates everyones efforts. :bored:

So my entry is only up cos I'm in a "clique" ? Don't think I will bother next time either.

[~Kizwiz~]

It doesn't invalidate everyones effort. As far as I can see the usual suspects in most cases have been chosen again. I didn't mean any offence Lauren but to me it seems mostly like a club

[Sam]

You wouldnt be calling it a sham if you were through. :nono:

I chose what were in my opinion the best banners , not "people in the click"

Do you really think i would have put Markus' through if i was putting people i like through? I rest my case.

Talk about bad losers. :nono: Thank to all those who didnt get through who are supporting everyon elses, its a competition! Cheer up!

- I put which i though were the best banners through, sorry if you dont agree with that but whoever i put through, others will have to lose, im sorry but thats the game

[Lauren]

I do think more people should have been included in the final vote-off (Ash, Simon, Sophie, yourself).
I just felt that when you said the only people through are because they're in a sort of clique it seemed like you were invalidating everyones efforts because they only got in because of a "club" as opposed to any type of talent.
And this is the first time I've entered/gotten through so I don't think that is the case.

[MarkWaldorf]

Originally posted by snig
You wouldnt be calling it a sham if you were through. :nono:

I chose what were in my opinion the best banners , not "people in the click"

Do you really think i would have put Markus' through if i was putting people i like through? I rest my case.

Talk about bad losers. :nono: Thank to all those who didnt get through who are supporting everyon elses, its a competition! Cheer up!

Charming. :rolleyes:

[Sam]

I think your really being unfair on the people who spend ages making them. Anyway on with the competition , keep your votes coming!

[Sophii3x]

Originally posted by snig
Do you really think i would have put Markus' through if i was putting people i like through? I rest my case.

:shocked:

[Sam]

I feel insulted when people say I put my "friends" though. I tried to judge this competition as fairly as I could.

[Bells]

Snig and Markus have disagreed on stuff yeah, but I think what he meant was that it didn’t affect results. Certain peoples’ banners always get in probably because they’re really good. This time, Emilee and Lauren – new people – got in too. The only thing I think would improve this competition is more input from people as to which banners are picked, rather than just one persons’ view, because it takes a lot of effort as you can appreciate! For some they can just pick out old banners instead of making some especially!

Aside from that, I’ve given my vote and will support you all – and well done to EVERYONE that took part! :thumbs:

[Sophii3x]

Originally posted by snig
I feel insulted when people say I put my "friends" though. I tried to judge this competition as fairly as I could.

Hmm.. well I dont know what to say:laugh:

[Sophii3x]

Anyway, moving on :bigsmile:
Sam, I thought Gemma's Avril Lavine one got through:conf:

[Lauren]

I agree with you Ash. I do feel more input could have been put into the deciding aspect of this competition, because there are a lot of peoples banners who I feel deserved to go through that didn't.

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by snig
I think your really being unfair on the people who spend ages making them. Anyway on with the competition , keep your votes coming!

oh I see.... obviously mine look like there have been thrown together!!!! Thats nice to know!

I logging off now because i dont want to fight! Just for the record.... I do put a lot of time and effort into the things I do!

[Sam]

Thanks for the feedback it is welcome!

[andybigbro]

Everyone Calm down lol

i think Sam chose wisely as he does every year, he said that not everyone can get through

There always other compotitions

[Sam]

Originally posted by Markus™
Originally posted by kizwiz
See all the click got in!!!!! There were no limits to poll entries or you could have had rounds?

Hmmmmm...... dont think I'll bother with the next one.... seems a bit of a sham really

I was going to do a contest where you have rounds and don't tag the images, so each round you vote not knowing who's banner is who's. But I'm not sure, people seem to prefer this one.

I wonder why that is :tongue:

[Sam]

Originally posted by andybigbro

i think Sam chose wisely as he does every year,



Every month lol

[MarkWaldorf]

Originally posted by snig
Originally posted by Markus™
Originally posted by kizwiz
See all the click got in!!!!! There were no limits to poll entries or you could have had rounds?

Hmmmmm...... dont think I'll bother with the next one.... seems a bit of a sham really

I was going to do a contest where you have rounds and don't tag the images, so each round you vote not knowing who's banner is who's. But I'm not sure, people seem to prefer this one.

I wonder why that is :tongue:

Well it would be fairer then just having you judging the banners. Everyone would be involved, and the voting would be less troublesome.

[Sam]

Originally posted by Markus™
Originally posted by snig
Originally posted by Markus™
Originally posted by kizwiz
See all the click got in!!!!! There were no limits to poll entries or you could have had rounds?

Hmmmmm...... dont think I'll bother with the next one.... seems a bit of a sham really

I was going to do a contest where you have rounds and don't tag the images, so each round you vote not knowing who's banner is who's. But I'm not sure, people seem to prefer this one.

I wonder why that is :tongue:

Well it would be fairer then just having you judging the banners. Everyone would be involved, and the voting would be less troublesome.

A actually agree , a huge change in voting will be announced for the next competition.

[Emilee]

I voted Andy's Ashley Tisdale one! Its great.

So is everybody elses, but i liked his the best! :hello:

[MarkWaldorf]

Originally posted by snig
Originally posted by Markus™
Originally posted by snig
Originally posted by Markus™
Originally posted by kizwiz
See all the click got in!!!!! There were no limits to poll entries or you could have had rounds?

Hmmmmm...... dont think I'll bother with the next one.... seems a bit of a sham really

I was going to do a contest where you have rounds and don't tag the images, so each round you vote not knowing who's banner is who's. But I'm not sure, people seem to prefer this one.

I wonder why that is :tongue:

Well it would be fairer then just having you judging the banners. Everyone would be involved, and the voting would be less troublesome.

A actually agree , a huge change in voting will be announced for the next competition.

Well I'm hoping to do mine straight after the voting for this has finished.

[andybigbro]

What all this about new comps?

[Red Moon]

Having read this topic I can see why people feel the way they do. Everyone who entered the competition put a lot of effort into their banners given their experience of using the various graphic packages . Further to this I also understand how people feel about how the judging. For example, it would, having looked at the original topic, seem unfair that one of the judges has an entry in the final. Surely it would have been better if the judges couldn't enter the competition. Another clear problem was the shifting closing date which was originally set sometime in March. It is clear that the system of judging has caused a lot of bad feeling and for understandable reasons.

I suggest that in future competitions you have clear rules that everyone understands and that a method is devised so that everyone that enters has their work up for some kind of public vote in a heats phase. May be something like this:

In the heats phase the banners could be posted in groups of say 9 or 10 with people then picking their top 3 in order over a period of a couple of days. 5 points could be given for every banner rated first, 3 for second and 1 for third and the points totalled up. This would give three banners from the original heat making it through to the next round. The final could also be scored in the same sort of way.

To stop lots of entries I would suggest limiting the number of banners that can be put through to the final vote. So for example people are only allowed two entries. This will reduce the number of banners going through to heats and will make sure people enter their best work.

By having no Judges you would avoid problems like the ones caused by this competitions.

[andybigbro]

No because wghat happens if you make two then you make another and its better

i like it the way it is

People on this forum know that not everyone cant get through its a compition not everyone wins

And its not the end of the world

[Emilee]

I was only showing mine i didnt want mine to get through. I didnt even know it was going to get through, and i thought 'I' was going to have some imput in choosing the finalists guess not.

Can everybody please not vote for mine. (emilee - Justin Timberlake).
If i helped to choose the finalists i would only allow 1 banner per person and would try to atleast include one of everybodys entries, because i appreciate they take a long time to make and unexperienced banner mkers are really pleased with their work even if the judges arn't, so i think everyone should have had a fair chance at being in the final. Like Ash, Sophie etc should have gotten a banner in the final.

Sorry to those who Sam didnt pick to get through to the final. I thought everybodys banners were amazing!

DONT VOTE FOR MINE!

[Bells]

Of course not everyone wins and of course it's not the end of the world, but people would still like their efforts appreciated. I think Red Moon's post sums up and summarises pretty much all the tension that has gone on.

And Emilee, your banner's great - you still deserve recognition for it. But at the same time I'm sure even you would rather it was picked in a better way. Also, I thought you were a joint judge as well?! So not only was the date changed, the judges were even changed!

Perhaps, if we are to have judges and judging, if possible we should have mods or reliable organisers plan the events! :hugesmile:

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by andybigbro
No because wghat happens if you make two then you make another and its better

i like it the way it is

People on this forum know that not everyone cant get through its a compition not everyone wins

And its not the end of the world

Sorry but the system is seriously flawed. If we are going to have unfair competitions then we would be better off without them at all. It just causes bad feeling on the board for no reason at all. To be honest I felt like closing this thread. I didn't because I could see people where making progress in changing things.

As for only having a set number of entries, you would just have to make sure you entered you best work or have a system where at a set date you say what entries you want to go through to the heats.

[MarkWaldorf]

Originally posted by Red Moon
Having read this topic I can see why people feel the way they do. Everyone who entered the competition put a lot of effort into their banners given their experience of using the various graphic packages . Further to this I also understand how people feel about how the judging. For example, it would, having looked at the original topic, seem unfair that one of the judges has an entry in the final. Surely it would have been better if the judges couldn't enter the competition. Another clear problem was the shifting closing date which was originally set sometime in March. It is clear that the system of judging has caused a lot of bad feeling and for understandable reasons.

I suggest that in future competitions you have clear rules that everyone understands and that a method is devised so that everyone that enters has their work up for some kind of public vote in a heats phase. May be something like this:

In the heats phase the banners could be posted in groups of say 9 or 10 with people then picking their top 3 in order over a period of a couple of days. 5 points could be given for every banner rated first, 3 for second and 1 for third and the points totalled up. This would give three banners from the original heat making it through to the next round. The final could also be scored in the same sort of way.

To stop lots of entries I would suggest limiting the number of banners that can be put through to the final vote. So for example people are only allowed two entries. This will reduce the number of banners going through to heats and will make sure people enter their best work.

By having no Judges you would avoid problems like the ones caused by this competitions.

I wouldn't try helping them. I suggested a fairer way and no one wanted anything to do with it. Just let it be a unfair. They're the ones who'll look stupid doing it.

:rolleyes:

[James]

Just seen this... Why not just put all the banners in one big poll? Maybe have a run-off poll for the top two or three. Give everyone a chance. :thumbs:

[Red Moon]

I think one of the main problems was that there were just too many for one poll. Hence the heats idea the people have been coming up with. If the heats could take place in one topic over an number days it would save us having lots of topics all over the place on the same sort of subject.

What ever system is used everyone has to have a fair chance of winning and having their work judged in a fair way.

[Sam]

Originally posted by Markus™
Well I'm hoping to do mine straight after the voting for this has finished.

So basicly a complete rip off?

[MarkWaldorf]

Originally posted by snig
So basicly a complete rip off?

No, you're not the only one who's allowed to do stuff. It'll be much fairer than this anyway.

[Sam]

Originally posted by Markus™
I wouldn't try helping them. I suggested a fairer way and no one wanted anything to do with it. Just let it be a unfair. They're the ones who'll look stupid doing it.

:rolleyes:

There not intersted because there is already one here. Ok Im going away and i couldnt judge, it had to be moved, the fact is it was unavoidable i cant judge it if im not even here. Markus, i dont know why you hate me so much, I do something and you have to contradict, or try to outshine me. Im doing the other competition and you have to drop "the bombshell". Were doing this banner competition but you have to do a better one. Think of your own ideas, all you do is criticise and im getting sick of it.

[Sam]

Originally posted by Markus™
No, you're not the only one who's allowed to do stuff. It'll be much fairer than this anyway.

Ive done this banner competition sinces Last year July, we dont need another one, weve already got one and its just pointless to make another, because ive told various other forum members that im doing another one now there is a proper thread , not only this but the format will be changed as requested by everyone. I think James' idea of one big poll is good or heats, we just dont need another one

[MarkWaldorf]

Originally posted by snig
Ive done this banner competition sinces Last year July, we dont need another one, weve already got one and its just pointless to make another, because ive told various other forum members that Im doing another one now there is a proper thread , not only this but the format will be changed as requested by everyone. I think James' idea of one big poll is good or heats, we just dont need another one

No, we didn't get a graphic section just for your comp. If you notice the thing that sends you in here, it says and graphic competitions. Not competition.

[Sam]

Originally posted by Markus™
No, we didn't get a graphic section just for your comp. If you notice the thing that sends you in here, it says and graphic competitions. Not competition.

Graphic competitions? Yes. No several banner competitions. Competition using graphics generally, not just a copy of my banner competition but with Markus Style.

[~Kizwiz~]

Look peeps..... its all getting a bit heated now....... why dont we just all calm down :hug:

[MarkWaldorf]

Originally posted by snig
Originally posted by Markus™
Originally posted by snig
Originally posted by Markus™
Originally posted by snig
So basicly a complete rip off?

No, you're not the only one who's allowed to do stuff. It'll be much fairer than this anyway.

Ive done this banner competition sinces Last year July, we dont need another one, weve already got one and its just pointless to make another, because ive told various other forum members that Im doing another one now there is a proper thread , not only this but the format will be changed as requested by everyone. I think James' idea of one big poll is good or heats, we just dont need another one

No, we didn't get a graphic section just for your comp. If you notice the thing that sends you in here, it says and graphic competitions. Not competition.

Graphic competitions? Yes. No several banner competitions. Competition using graphics generally, not just a copy of my banner competition but with Markus Style.

Wow, wait a big up yourself. And no, it won't be a copy. It's actually completely different to your sham of a contest. You aren't the only one here who can make a contest in this section. Remember who pitched this idea in the first place.

[Sam]

Moon has come up with a plan, we are to re judge the competition but with heats and a new host which Ill announce shortly.

[Sam]

Originally posted by Markus™
Wow, wait a big up yourself. And no, it won't be a copy. It's actually completely different to your sham of a contest. You aren't the only one here who can make a contest in this section. Remember who pitched this idea in the first place.

Now whos trying to take credit for someone elses idea... :rolleyes:

[MarkWaldorf]

Originally posted by snig
Wow, wait a big up yourself. And no, it won't be a copy. It's actually completely different to your sham of a contest. You aren't the only one here who can make a contest in this section. Remember who pitched this idea in the first place.

Now whos trying to take credit for someone elses idea... :rolleyes: [/quote]

I'm sorry, what? The graphics section was an idea of mine. Not the general interests.

[Red Moon]

With that...... thread closed.

An announcement will be made in the original thread shortly.

This argument is to stop now before I issue warnings.

Red