Bear's Arms Up gesture is PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE

[elliebrew]

Arms up is like fake cringing, saying 'don't hit me', or 'you're bullying me' after having been extremely provocative, aggressive, or even physical with the actual 'victim'.

It's deflective - often done to disarm, to inhibit and to provoke even more whilst faking being in 'sub' mode.

It's rather common and ordinary, nasty fourteen year old behaviour. Bear seems stuck in some nasty dysfunctional pubescent timewarp.

[Paula D]

It's a nasty nasty move and Aubrey gave it right back to him. She is such an intelligent woman.

[Vicky.]

Meh, she went for him, he raised his arms to show he did nowt wrong. I see no wrong in it at all :laugh:

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

How is raising your arms aggressive? :huh: Aubrey was the one who was aggressive, invading his personal space.

[elliebrew]

How is raising your arms aggressive? :huh: Aubrey was the one who was aggressive, invading his personal space.

I've explained how it is passive aggressive and that's the end of it

[Vicky.]

I've explained how it is passive aggressive and that's the end of it

Well no its not, its your opinion, and opinion does not mean its true :shrug:

Do you disagree that Aubrey was actually physically aggressive during the argument? Out of curiosity.

[Kazanne]

How is raising your arms aggressive? :huh: Aubrey was the one who was aggressive, invading his personal space.

But he's invaded peoples personal space,so I see no problem

[Paula D]

Oh girls girls, and by that I mean Vanessa and Vicky, seriously look up what passive aggressive means. You're fighting a losing battle trying to defend this scum. And yes he probably will win but Aubrey was 100% correct in what she said, it will be the biggest achievement of his sad little life which is patethic.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

But he's invaded peoples personal space,so I see no problem

Not in this case, she did.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Oh girls girls, and by that I mean Vanessa and Vicky, seriously look up what passive aggressive means. You're fighting a losing battle trying to defend this scum. And yes he probably will win but Aubrey was 100% correct in what she said, it will be the biggest achievement of his sad little life which is patethic.

He isn't aggressive, Aubrey is.

[Vicky.]

Oh girls girls, and by that I mean Vanessa and Vicky, seriously look up what passive aggressive means. You're fighting a losing battle trying to defend this scum. And yes he probably will win but Aubrey was 100% correct in what she said, it will be the biggest achievement of his sad little life which is patethic.

I know what passive aggressive means, thanks. I disagree that it was passive aggressive. I also am not defending him over last night..I was totally on Aubreys side infact until she got up in his face (which if this happened the other way round there would be CARNAGE on here) and somehow, him backing away is more wrong than her doing it in the first place :joker:

[power2thepeople]

Arms up is like fake cringing, saying 'don't hit me', or 'you're bullying me' after having been extremely provocative, aggressive, or even physical with the actual 'victim'.

It's deflective - often done to disarm, to inhibit and to provoke even more whilst faking being in 'sub' mode.

It's rather common and ordinary, nasty fourteen year old behaviour. Bear seems stuck in some nasty dysfunctional pubescent timewarp.

My thoughts exactly. Last paragraph most definitely. He keeps reminding me that I'm back to work in September to see it all again on a weekly basis. But children can and are forgiven.

[hot2go]

Oh make your minds up ...you've spent four weeks trying to convince us he's aggressive and failed to prove it so now you're saying he's passive aggressive..... It's so rubbish....you must piss even yourselves off

[billy123]

Arms up is like fake cringing, saying 'don't hit me', or 'you're bullying me' after having been extremely provocative, aggressive, or even physical with the actual 'victim'.

It's deflective - often done to disarm, to inhibit and to provoke even more whilst faking being in 'sub' mode.

It's rather common and ordinary, nasty fourteen year old behaviour. Bear seems stuck in some nasty dysfunctional pubescent timewarp.I kind of agree with the sentiment of your post but i hate it when people just copy and paste part of someone elses post on another site and dont mention it.

Posted yesterday:
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showpost.php?p=83719271&postcount=12

[Vicky.]

It was also apparently mentioned on live feed by someone (I didnt watch this so going entirely on hearsay here) that BB had told him to do this if he felt threatened at any point. Can anyone who watched it comment on this please? Have only seen it mentioned on DS (and also in the post bobnot linked..which is what reminded me of this)

As that post says, it is a very odd thing for BB to suggest he does..and does kinda come off as them encouraging him to wind them up...

[RhysJones]

Vanessa to say that Aubrey is invading his personal space totally hypocritical when Renee had to ask Bear to not invade her personal space. You're beginning to become more of a hypocrite than Bear and that says something

[elliebrew]

Its also not an opinion its a fact

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

It was also apparently mentioned on live feed by someone (I didnt watch this so going entirely on hearsay here) that BB had told him to do this if he felt threatened at any point. Can anyone who watched it comment on this please? Have only seen it mentioned on DS (and also in the post bobnot linked..which is what reminded me of this)

As that post says, it is a very odd thing for BB to suggest he does..and does kinda come off as them encouraging him to wind them up...

I think Rene said this.

[Brother Leon]

What? She was the more aggressive of the two in the scenario. No need to make claims of passive aggrieved behaviour now to make that ok.

He tried to leave the room and she blocked his way and stepped to him. Naturally you will back away and raise your hands if you aren't going to butt heads.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

The only time he has been aggressive was when he threw the cup. Other than that he can control his temper very well.

[Clootie Dumpling]

When will people stop making excuses for this nasty, little wind-up merchant and see his behaviour for what it really is?

[joeysteele]

Meh, she went for him, he raised his arms to show he did nowt wrong. I see no wrong in it at all :laugh:

Nothing at all wrong, he did it to to expose her aggression and to show he was not reacting in a similar way and stepping back.

Something this nasty piece of work refused to do herself.

[elliebrew]

The only time he has been aggressive was when he threw the cup. Other than that he can control his temper very well.

PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE!!

PASSIVE!

Its a completely different dynamic

[sungrass]

Oh girls girls, and by that I mean Vanessa and Vicky, seriously look up what passive aggressive means. You're fighting a losing battle trying to defend this scum. And yes he probably will win but Aubrey was 100% correct in what she said, it will be the biggest achievement of his sad little life which is patethic.


He ll have interviews a romance - fall in love have kids and be happy - maybe end up a roofer - maybe end up in showbiz - but hes enjoyed his 20s a great deal more than most and his future is bright. because he doesnt take himself seriously he needs family guidance but I think he has that - so its a blessing.

The biggest achievement in his life could be anything - he has a whole future ahead of him and he has gained a lot of fans and support.


You never really know - I wish people would stop spouting opinion as it were fact

[Stevep]

How is raising your arms aggressive? :huh: Aubrey was the one who was aggressive, invading his personal space.

And chucking a pie in someone's face isn't invading someone's personal space?

[sungrass]

Its also not an opinion its a fact

I wasnt replying to you. Anyway this is pathetic. Im off.

They had a row - big deal - its big brother. Sheesh.

[Vicky.]

Its a completely different dynamic

Yup, tends to be misused a hell of a lot to put someone who did nothing wrong in the wrong when it was clearly someone else who was in the wrong.

Honestly, all series we have had 'Bear is aggressive' and such, and in the instance someone else is aggressive towards him and he steps back, he is suddenly passive aggressive so as still to make out he is wrong. :D

[hot2go]

Yup, tends to be misused a hell of a lot to put someone who did nothing wrong in the wrong when it was clearly someone else who was in the wrong.

Honestly, all series we have had 'Bear is aggressive' and such, and in the instance someone else is aggressive towards him and he steps back, he is suddenly passive aggressive so as still to make out he is wrong. :D

That is a genius observation and so bloody true...he's damned if he does and he's damned if he doesn't....you're right, people will twist any given situation to make him the bad guy, while at the same time turning a blind eye when other housemates bahave exactly the same as he does and sometimes a lot worse.
I think they all went in there to pull the rug out from their competitors but Bear just happened to better at it....I'm so glad I didn't back the wrong horse at the beginning when so many thought Biggins was gonna be the star of the show and I gave the unpopular opinion that I think he's rubbish.

[Rustic bauble]

But he's invaded peoples personal space,so I see no problem


...it's one rule for him and not for the others though Kaz....come on we all know by now it's ok if Bear does it :laugh:

[Rustic bauble]

Yup, tends to be misused a hell of a lot to put someone who did nothing wrong in the wrong when it was clearly someone else who was in the wrong.

Honestly, all series we have had 'Bear is aggressive' and such, and in the instance someone else is aggressive towards him and he steps back, he is suddenly passive aggressive so as still to make out he is wrong. :D



Tbf Vicky......it's often been the other way around.

[Vicky.]

Tbf Vicky......it's often been the other way around.

And that is just as ridiculous. Will never understand how people can't put aside their personal dislike/like of a certain housemate to see things clearer. On season is so weird.

[Jan S]

It was also apparently mentioned on live feed by someone (I didnt watch this so going entirely on hearsay here) that BB had told him to do this if he felt threatened at any point. Can anyone who watched it comment on this please? Have only seen it mentioned on DS (and also in the post bobnot linked..which is what reminded me of this)

As that post says, it is a very odd thing for BB to suggest he does..and does kinda come off as them encouraging him to wind them up...

i don't know who, if anyone, told him to do that but he's been doing it from the early days of the series and - as i interpret it - it's him running with the whole 'hands up, don't shoot' meme that began in america and because of police shooting unarmed black civilians, even children. he uses it to wind them up, NOT becase he feels threatened.

[Garfie]

i don't know who, if anyone, told him to do that but he's been doing it from the early days of the series and - as i interpret it - it's him running with the whole 'hands up, don't shoot' meme that began in america and because of police shooting unarmed black civilians, even children. he uses it to wind them up, NOT becase he feels threatened.

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[waterhog]

Arms up is like fake cringing, saying 'don't hit me', or 'you're bullying me' after having been extremely provocative, aggressive, or even physical with the actual 'victim'.

It's deflective - often done to disarm, to inhibit and to provoke even more whilst faking being in 'sub' mode.

It's rather common and ordinary, nasty fourteen year old behaviour. Bear seems stuck in some nasty dysfunctional pubescent timewarp.


master of reality tv - nos what actions to do to provoke and play the victim - bore off.

he better not win tonight - will be so disappointed.

[coffee]

Doesn't seem aggressive to me. Seems he was purposely trying to pretend to be the victim (in a joking way) to wind Aubrey up even more. Very lad of him lol