Cancer !!!!!

[rionablue]

Renee and Aubrey calling Bear cancer tonight was UNFORGIVEABLE. I know it was used as a term to cut a cancer out of society but those two horrible bitches how bloody dare they say that about a human being.

The term cancer is a very tough term for anyone to hear when they are diagnosed as having it. Only with regard to the star sign should it be ever used otherwise. Sorry girls the man you want to cut out of society will beat BOTH of you in the final. I dont even like Bear but these high and mighty bitches think they are so perfect and above everyone well they ARENT. They can high tail it home and hopefully we will never hear from them again.

We have all lost dearly loved people because of cancer and some of us are facing it in our lives.

[Amy Jade]

It's a well known saying...

I lost my auntie to cancer last year very unexpectedly because she knew it was terminal and she didn't want us all worrying and I wasn't offended.

Actually I find this thread more offensive.

[Pete.]

Cancer: an evil or destructive practice or phenomenon that is hard to contain or eradicate.

Queens of expanding people's vocab!

[rubymoo]

I don't like the saying, it's not nice and it's uncalled for, sometimes you have to be the bigger person.

[chuff me dizzy]

Renee and Aubrey calling Bear cancer tonight was UNFORGIVEABLE. I know it was used as a term to cut a cancer out of society but those two horrible bitches how bloody dare they say that about a human being.

The term cancer is a very tough term for anyone to hear when they are diagnosed as having it. Only with regard to the star sign should it be ever used otherwise. Sorry girls the man you want to cut out of society will beat BOTH of you in the final. I dont even like Bear but these high and mighty bitches think they are so perfect and above everyone well they ARENT. They can high tail it home and hopefully we will never hear from them again.

We have all lost dearly loved people because of cancer and some of us are facing it in our lives.

Ive opened a thread saying the same thing and do you know they some people agree with her and think its hilarious ? yes honestly I tell no lies they think cancer is a joke THATS how low this place has sunk

[Vanessa]

Rene and Aubrey just handed Bear the win. :hee:

[Black Dagger]

Cancer!!!!!

[Daffodil]

I think the term cancer describes Bear perfectly!

[Withano]

Probably referring to his star sign

[smudgie]

Well known and well used term.
Describes the situation well.

[Lostie!]

I loathe Bear but it's a horrid term, don't care how popularly used it is.

Actually I find this thread more offensive.

What's offensive about this thread?

[Maru]

Why does the sensitivity level have to be so high though? It's a perfectly acceptable metaphor. It doesn't lessen the affliction of cancer survivors/victims.

[Babayaro.]

It's a well known saying...

I lost my auntie to cancer last year very unexpectedly because she knew it was terminal and she didn't want us all worrying and I wasn't offended.

Actually I find this thread more offensive.

Having lost people close to me due to cancer, I feel the same way as you. But I do see why some people would be offended by it. It was a silly move on Renee's part (did Aubrey say it too idk) though, considering this is a show were the viewers will pick up on anything slightly offensive.

[rubymoo]

Why does the sensitivity level have to be so high? It's a perfectly acceptable metaphor.

When you've watched some one die of cancer, and they've died in your arms, you'll understand that its not an acceptable metaphor.

[chuff me dizzy]

When you've watched some one die of cancer, and they've died in your arms, you'll understand that its not an acceptable metaphor.

Didn't you know ,some people think its hilarious ?

[smudgie]

When you've watched some one die of cancer, and they've died in your arms, you'll understand that its not an acceptable metaphor.

Nope, not true in all cases I am afraid.

[rubymoo]

Didn't you know ,some people think its hilarious ?

:umm2: it makes me sad.

[Daffodil]

What next? People with piles will be offended if Bear is called a pain in the arse?????

[Maru]

When you've watched some one die of cancer, and they've died in your arms, you'll understand that its not an acceptable metaphor.

I'll have to take your word for it. Otherwise for me it would just depend on the usage.

[Lostie!]

What next? People with piles will be offended if Bear is called a pain in the arse?????

Because that's really comparable :umm2:

[Northern Monkey]

Bear has'nt been that nasty to anyone.He may take the piss but Aubrey spitting in food and Renee comparing a person to cancer are vile actions.Awful people.

[Daffodil]

Because that's really comparable :umm2:


Glad you agree!!!! :joker::dance:

[rionablue]

Ive opened a thread saying the same thing and do you know they some people agree with her and think its hilarious ? yes honestly I tell no lies they think cancer is a joke THATS how low this place has sunk

And somehone has found my thread more offensive. That really hurts

[Firewire]

She was inspired by Mitch

[Amy Jade]

I've actually heard my Nana say it about David Cameron and she's survived cancer twice.

[Lostie!]

Glad you agree!!!! :joker::dance:

Making the most of the school holidays I see :joker::dance:

[Amy Jade]

When you've watched some one die of cancer, and they've died in your arms, you'll understand that its not an acceptable metaphor.

I was in the hospice as my aunt lay dying and I don't find it offensive at all.

[Maru]

I've actually heard my Nana say it about David Cameron and she's survived cancer twice.

All I can say is... I'm a Cancer and I'm not insulted... :laugh:

Have had a few family members who are crippled with Dystonia and it's a common slander term to call someone a cripple. Had a fair amount of very ugly people call my mother a cripple and walk behind her mimic-ing her poor mobility. Have seen some of the ugliest of human nature.

Though, I don't get upset when someone says someone is crippling a situation, or the economy is crippled or this feeling is crippling. It's just a metaphor, a creative use of language, an emotive way to communicate new meanings. Metaphors don't necessarily disparage the victims and the causes surrounding those victims. #savetheenglishlanguage

[rubymoo]

I was in the hospice as my aunt lay dying and I don't find it offensive at all.

My mum in law died in my arms high on morphine and drowned in her own bodily fluids and it breaks my heart every single day so i find it highly offensive, call me sensitive, call me what you want, i think cancer is an evil disease that robs people of their loved ones and is a term that should not be used lightly.

[Amy Jade]

All I can say is... I'm a Cancer and I'm not insulted... :laugh:

Have had a few family members who are crippled with Dystonia and it's a common slander term to call someone a cripple. Had a fair amount of very ugly people call my mother a cripple and walk behind her mimic-ing her poor mobility. Have seen some of the ugliest of human nature.

Though, I don't get upset when someone says someone is crippling a situation, or the economy is crippled or this feeling is crippling. It's just a metaphor, a creative use of language, an emotive way to communicate new meanings. Metaphors don't necessarily disparage the victims and the causes surrounding those victims. #savetheenglishlanguage

:clap1:

I get people can be offended by it, but I feel the op's reaction is well, a bit overly dramatic.

[Daffodil]

All I can say is... I'm a Cancer and I'm not insulted... :laugh:

Have had a few family members who are crippled with Dystonia and it's a common slander term to call someone a cripple. Had a fair amount of very ugly people call my mother a cripple and walk behind her mimic-ing her poor mobility. Have seen some of the ugliest of human nature.

Though, I don't get upset when someone says someone is crippling a situation, or the economy is crippled or this feeling is crippling. It's just a metaphor, a creative use of language, an emotive way to communicate new meanings. Metaphors don't necessarily disparage the victims and the causes surrounding those victims. #savetheenglishlanguage

Someone with intelligence speaks at last!!! Thankyou.

[Weyr]

It's a well known saying...

I lost my auntie to cancer last year very unexpectedly because she knew it was terminal and she didn't want us all worrying and I wasn't offended.

Actually I find this thread more offensive.

I agree 100%. I lost my mother last year to cancer too, and again I didn't find it at all offensive. I find the sight and sound of him totally offensive however, and would love for him to fail at the final hurdle.

[Greg!]

I'm screaming at the faux outrage omfg. If bear said it his fans would be calling it an epic speech

[Headie]

Capricorn !!!!!!

[rionablue]

:clap1:

I get people can be offended by it, but I feel the op's reaction is well, a bit overly dramatic.

Im really really surprised you said that Amy Jade. I thought that they could have used ANOTHER term other than cancer. I dont like it used like this and thats why I created a post I dont even LIKE bear. Anyway a few people agree with me you are entitled to your own opinion but I am a bit hurt if I am honest. Peace though

[Amy Jade]

My mum in law died in my arms high on morphine and drowned in her own bodily fluids and it breaks my heart every single day so i find it highly offensive, call me sensitive, call me what you want, i think cancer is an evil disease that robs people of their loved ones and is a term that should not be used lightly.

I'm genuinely so sorry for your loss, I know how hard it is to see somebody deteriorate before your eyes, it's the hardest thing I've ever been through and I do understand you being offended and that's absoloutely fine

[rionablue]

I'm genuinely so sorry for your loss, I know how hard it is to see somebody deteriorate before your eyes, it's the hardest thing I've ever been through and I do understand you being offended and that's absoloutely fine
You see this is what I dont get. I lost my Mum, best friend and my father in law and friends son through cancer so I am also offended the term was used anyway I am not going to criticise forum members I will move on

[Amy Jade]

Im really really surprised you said that Amy Jade. I thought that they could have used ANOTHER term other than cancer. I dont like it used like this and thats why I created a post I dont even LIKE bear. Anyway a few people agree with me you are entitled to your own opinion but I am a bit hurt if I am honest. Peace though

I mean I'm sorry you're hurt but I am entitled to my opinion as much as anyone else, I didn't find her remark offensive at all, I wouldn't if anyone said it - maybe because I've heard it before and heard it said by somebody who has had cancer

[BB-Fan]

Bang out of order, and absolutely offended me....

[Vanessa]

Bang out of order, and absolutely offended me....

It was awful.

[rubymoo]

I'm genuinely so sorry for your loss, I know how hard it is to see somebody deteriorate before your eyes, it's the hardest thing I've ever been through and I do understand you being offended and that's absoloutely fine

It's ok Amy, i'm sorry for your loss too, it's just a word that i wish never existed :hug:

[smudgie]

Well known metaphor.
It wasn't directed at any of us personally so i dont see the need for all the fuss.
Had she said that she wished he was struck down with cancer then maybe that would have been different.

[Daffodil]

I am offended by Bear. Maybe we should stop talking about him???

[Lostie!]

I'm screaming at the faux outrage omfg. If bear said it his fans would be calling it an epic speech

Why is this ridiculously overused cliché still a thing? People have very valid reasons for being annoyed by flinging the term "cancer" around so casually.

I'm not expecting everyone take issue with it but a little basic understanding as to why some people are wouldn't go amiss.

And I'm no Bear fan whatsoever (but on the subject of your last point, I doubt this would have been defended half as much had he said it so I'd say people on both sides would be guilty of having a different response depending on who said it).

[susie q]

I'm screaming at the faux outrage omfg. If bear said it his fans would be calling it an epic speech

It would be added to his list of 'funny moments' for sure. We none fans must learn that we can not say anything bad about the virtuous bear, for fear of upsetting him or fans. Im speaking as the mother of a son who had Leukemia as child(he survived). I didnt find it offensive, I took it the way it was meant in that Bear is a character who enjoys spreading negative vibes around, and can be very cruel. My son hates him even more than I do and thought cancer was a good word to describe how vile he is. If Bear had said it his fans would be agreeing with him, no doubt about it, the double standards have been bad this year.

[Marsh.]

The english language is more complex than that.


can·cer
ˈkansər/

a practice or phenomenon perceived to be evil or destructive and hard to contain or eradicate.
"racism is a cancer sweeping across Europe"

So Bear being a cancer of the house would be quite a valid sentence.

[Amy Jade]

Well known metaphor.
It wasn't directed at any of us personally so i dont see the need for all the fuss.
Had she said that she wished he was struck down with cancer then maybe that would have been different.
I totally agree, had she wished him to get cancer I would be absoloutely disgusted and my support of her would come to a halt.

[rk3388]

Cancer: an evil or destructive practice or phenomenon that is hard to contain or eradicate.

Queens of expanding people's vocab!

x2

[wendywillow]

before Aubrey described him as herpes. sounds like bears a thrill to live with

[Shaun]

Nothing wrong with saying it really and to suggest that everyone who does has no experience of the actualities of cancer is a little bit daft.

[Greg!]

Why is this ridiculously overused cliché still a thing? People have very valid reasons for being annoyed by flinging the term "cancer" around so casually.

on the subject of your last point, I doubt this would have been defended half as much had he said it so I'd say people on both sides would be guilty of having a different response depending on who said it).


So first you drag me for using the term "faux outrage" and say it's not true. And then you drag people for the faux outrage I was talking about. Ok

[Binbin]

Renee and Aubrey calling Bear cancer tonight was UNFORGIVEABLE. ...They can high tail it home and hopefully we will never hear from them again

What do we expect from Renee the crazy monkey mobster and Aubrey, who looks like a Nazi at the opening of the Ark of the Covenant (re - Raiders of...nm)

I hope Renee's remark about somebody teaching Bear a good lesson isn't a....threat! :shocked: We might need witnesses.

[Ian Coke]

Didn't you know ,some people think its hilarious ?

Your sig is a photo of a toddler smoking a cig. So presumably on some level, you find the threat of cancer amusing?

[Clootie Dumpling]

Oh, no! Is this yet another word that it's no longer PC to use in case it offends someone?

I realise it's an emotive word for people who have been touched by the disease - (that's probably most of us) - and not to be used lightly, but it's legitimate and, in this context, absolutely appropriate.

[Binbin]

Talking of disease, Aubrey's voice sounds like the nasal whine of a zika mosquito. The Pentagon should develop it into a sonic weapon.

[Clootie Dumpling]

Talking of disease, Aubrey's voice sounds like the nasal whine of a zika mosquito. The Pentagon should develop it into a sonic weapon.

Not as much as Bear's does, Binbin!

[letmein]

Renee and Aubrey calling Bear cancer tonight was UNFORGIVEABLE. I know it was used as a term to cut a cancer out of society but those two horrible bitches how bloody dare they say that about a human being.

The term cancer is a very tough term for anyone to hear when they are diagnosed as having it.

Oh, boo hoo hoo. Get over it. Context is everything. So sick of the crybabies that inhabit the UK that need to be nannied. Bear is a turd.

[Clootie Dumpling]

Oh, boo hoo hoo. Get over it. Context is everything. So sick of the crybabies that inhabit the UK that need to be nannied. Bear is a turd.

Yes. When she described him as "a pebble in a piece of gum" on her shoe, she probably meant to say "turd"! :)

[Jamie89]

It doesn't bother me personally. I get why it could be offensive, but I wonder if that's because of less familiarity with hearing it being used in that context rather than because of different levels of experience of dealing with the disease? (a genuine wondering, I'm not assuming other peoples experience)... I just know in my own experience that I've dealt with the disease with 2 close family members and a close friend (who was only 25 when she was diagnosed and it was one of the most horrific experiences I've been through) and thinking of it is really upsetting, but when I hear the term used in this context it doesn't remind me of that. Hopefully that doesn't make me a sociopath or something :worry: but I think it's just because the metaphor use of it is totally separate in my mind.

[joeysteele]

Renee and Aubrey calling Bear cancer tonight was UNFORGIVEABLE. I know it was used as a term to cut a cancer out of society but those two horrible bitches how bloody dare they say that about a human being.

The term cancer is a very tough term for anyone to hear when they are diagnosed as having it. Only with regard to the star sign should it be ever used otherwise. Sorry girls the man you want to cut out of society will beat BOTH of you in the final. I dont even like Bear but these high and mighty bitches think they are so perfect and above everyone well they ARENT. They can high tail it home and hopefully we will never hear from them again.

We have all lost dearly loved people because of cancer and some of us are facing it in our lives.

I agree, it was really low as was the false statements of Renee as to it too.

She strongly pointed out she did not mean Bear personally,then to Aubrey she said she did mean him directly.

However again, she then when making up with Bear statement she never meant it directed at him.
So much for her word being her bond then.

It was sick in my view, really sick.
Had he said that to her or Aubrey, he would be being near hung drawn and quartered on here.

[Clootie Dumpling]

I agree, it was really low as was the false statements of Renee as to it too.

She strongly pointed out she did not mean Bear personally,then to Aubrey she said she did mean him directly.

However again, she then when making up with Bear statement she never meant it directed at him.
So much for her word being her bond then.

It was sick in my view, really sick.
Had he said that to her or Aubrey, he would be being near hung drawn and quartered on here.

I think she feels such contempt for Bear that she feels he's not worthy of the truth.

[Vicky.]

Ive opened a thread saying the same thing and do you know they some people agree with her and think its hilarious ? yes honestly I tell no lies they think cancer is a joke THATS how low this place has sunk

This is mainly as it is directed at a housemate they dislike though, IF it had been the other way around there would be calls for his head on a platter for being so offensive and disrespectful. Equally if Bear had said it a few who are appalled would be laughing. On season is ****ing weird and distorts all normal views to a lot of people

Having said this, my mother had (no longer has :) ) cancer a few years back and I didn't find it offensive. Slightly tasteless, but not offensive. I think she knew she had gone too far though after she denied it TO him at the end of the show, despite expanding on it to Aubrey in the bedroom hours earlier.

[rionablue]

[QUOTE=letmein;8945111]Oh, boo hoo hoo. Get over it. Context is everything. So sick of the crybabies that inhabit the UK that need to be nannied. Bear is a turd.[/QUOTE

If you are referring to me as a crybaby that inhabits the uk that is a lousy insult. Im a grown woman that the word 'cancer' brings back bad memories of lost loved ones. I didnt think the term cancer was right to be used against another human being . I think calling someone a cancer isnt right. I am entitled to post what I want and everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

I absolutely cannot ABIDE Bear so its not as if Im a fan. And I DONT live in the UK

[rionablue]

It doesn't bother me personally. I get why it could be offensive, but I wonder if that's because of less familiarity with hearing it being used in that context rather than because of different levels of experience of dealing with the disease? (a genuine wondering, I'm not assuming other peoples experience)... I just know in my own experience that I've dealt with the disease with 2 close family members and a close friend (who was only 25 when she was diagnosed and it was one of the most horrific experiences I've been through) and thinking of it is really upsetting, but when I hear the term used in this context it doesn't remind me of that. Hopefully that doesn't make me a sociopath or something :worry: but I think it's just because the metaphor use of it is totally separate in my mind.

That is a nicely put post Jamie and I thank you for posting it on my thread

[jaxie]

Renee and Aubrey calling Bear cancer tonight was UNFORGIVEABLE. I know it was used as a term to cut a cancer out of society but those two horrible bitches how bloody dare they say that about a human being.

The term cancer is a very tough term for anyone to hear when they are diagnosed as having it. Only with regard to the star sign should it be ever used otherwise. Sorry girls the man you want to cut out of society will beat BOTH of you in the final. I dont even like Bear but these high and mighty bitches think they are so perfect and above everyone well they ARENT. They can high tail it home and hopefully we will never hear from them again.

We have all lost dearly loved people because of cancer and some of us are facing it in our lives.

I am with you 100% on this Riona. It's a dreadful disease and causes a great deal of suffering. It's a terrible thing to say to or about anyone. Lowest of the low.

[Daffodil]

Your sig is a photo of a toddler smoking a cig. So presumably on some level, you find the threat of cancer amusing?

Seconded. The pic of a baby smoking a cigarette really is in the worst possible taste. It is truly nasty.

[power2thepeople]

Seconded. The pic of a baby smoking a cigarette really is in the worst possible taste. It is truly nasty.

Oh my days! Double standards are rife on this forum and I'm probably guilty of some myself but that's hilarious.:shrug::shrug:

[ScottyT]

Oh get a grip.

[Ant.]

When you've watched some one die of cancer, and they've died in your arms, you'll understand that its not an acceptable metaphor.

I've lost family and friends to cancer and I find that it's completely acceptable

I'm not overly sensitive so maybe that's something to do with it, or maybe because the word 'cancer' doesn't just mean the disease. I don't know, though. Regardless, worse things have been said, and people are grasping at straws - which is understandable, it's hard to justify anything Bear does, so instead they twist things to make him the victim.

[Ross.]

It's not a phrase I personally find offensive, but I understand why it could be for others

[rionablue]

I've lost family and friends to cancer and I find that it's completely acceptable

I'm not overly sensitive so maybe that's something to do with it, or maybe because the word 'cancer' doesn't just mean the disease. I don't know, though. Regardless, worse things have been said, and people are grasping at straws - which is understandable, it's hard to justify anything Bear does, so instead they twist things to make him the victim.

I really dont like Bear

[Daffodil]

Oh my days! Double standards are rife on this forum and I'm probably guilty of some myself but that's hilarious.:shrug::shrug:

Why is it hilarious Powertothepeople ???

[Robodog]

What if Bear had called Renee 'the worst type of cancer'?

What would her reaction be?

For all his antagonising idiot behaviour, he has never taken it to that level

[Daffodil]

What if Bear had called Renee 'the worst type of cancer'?

What would her reaction be?

For all his antagonising idiot behaviour, he has never taken it to that level


The situation would never arise as Renée is a thoroughly decent human being.

[power2thepeople]

Why is it hilarious Powertothepeople ???

I'm agreeing with you? :wavey:

[Daffodil]

I'm agreeing with you? :wavey:


Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh in that case :cheer2::hug::dance2::dazzler::elephant:

Love ya!!! lol

[power2thepeople]

No worries. Reading it back even I can see how it could be confused:wavey::hee: