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jaxie
26-08-2016, 11:06 AM
I know Bear has been an oik and has wound people up a lot but he has also been funny and he's made them work for their fee, even those who have coasted along have had to put up with antics.

The spitting incident really bothered me and it was never dealt with to my satisfaction. I would have brought the ****ing house down if it was me that ate and drank spit. :fist:

What I don't get is how some people can hate Bear so much that they call him scum but think it was ok for Aubrey to spit in his food and drink and that he deserves it. What is it that tells people that her spitting in his food and drink is ever ok? :shrug:

He hasn't done anything but be annoying to people. He hasn't been aggressive and he hasn't done anything vile like that. If there is any justice, Aubrey who has sailed through without noms will be first out tonight and Bear who has given us a show and a real social experiment will win.

Mystic Mock
26-08-2016, 11:11 AM
If Bear wins then it's just encouraging BB to make a one man Big Brother all of the time and that's not on imo.

A vote against Bear to win is a vote for BB to be restored to a more BB17, BB13, CBB13 styled editing.

jaxie
26-08-2016, 11:15 AM
I think the people in there overall have been abysmal. There isn't anyone else for a win IMO. I say this as someone who isn't really a Bear fan. I don't think he's been the bees knees, I don't find him remotely attractive. But I think he has played an amazing game. And I do enjoy BB when we see it as a glimpse of the social experiment it's meant to be.

You have to take each series as it comes and there is no point in harking for it be like this or that other CBB. It isn't that show. A vote against Bear isn't a vote for any styled editing, that's just a fantasy. I think a vote against Bear is a vote for someone who doesn't deserve a win.

y.winter
26-08-2016, 11:18 AM
I prefer a boring series rather than a boring-in-disguise series.
If the plot is not organic, you can smell it straight away, and it doesn't smell good.
Let's not be desperate to call the act of Bear sweating to cause interest entertainment. It's not.

Cherie
26-08-2016, 11:21 AM
I know Bear has been an oik and has wound people up a lot but he has also been funny and he's made them work for their fee, even those who have coasted along have had to put up with antics.

The spitting incident really bothered me and it was never dealt with to my satisfaction. I would have brought the ****ing house down if it was me that ate and drank spit. :fist:

What I don't get is how some people can hate Bear so much that they call him scum but think it was ok for Aubrey to spit in his food and drink and that he deserves it. What is it that tells people that her spitting in his food and drink is ever ok? :shrug:

He hasn't done anything but be annoying to people. He hasn't been aggressive and he hasn't done anything vile like that. If there is any justice, Aubrey who has sailed through without noms will be first out tonight and Bear who has given us a show and a real social experiment will win.

The simple answer is he is male :hee: Renee on the other hand who has been foul mouth, childish in the extreme ..not speaking...sitting alone...trying to use her influence to isolate Bear, threatened violence on Bear from her "friends " on the outside, knew Aubrey spat in his food though at that point they were friends, is being held up as some paragon of truth and virtue, you literally could write the script on here at times :hee: she should be getting equal if not more "hate" but no

Mystic Mock
26-08-2016, 11:28 AM
I don't want Renee to win either as the show would love to have one of their MTV people to win.

In my eyes voting for Bear, Renee, Marnie, or Aubrey (even though I like her) to win is gonna make BB think that it's okay to cast more Housemates that argue constantly, make a negative impact in the house, crying constantly, making constant physical threats on other Housemates, and trashy acts such as spitting in someones food or drink.

Withano
26-08-2016, 11:35 AM
I was about to quote the op and comment on a few of the points but honestly, i consider about 12 of the points to be unfactual and i just cant be bothered to put the time in. You say hes been funny, not aggressive, not annoying. I can assure you that many people disagree entirely. Also a lot of people believe he has completely ruined the series and i think a lot of hate comes from that, this is most of our favourite programme and to have it ruined by one chimp is infuriating.

camertone
26-08-2016, 11:39 AM
I know Bear has been an oik and has wound people up a lot but he has also been funny and he's made them work for their fee, even those who have coasted along have had to put up with antics.

The spitting incident really bothered me and it was never dealt with to my satisfaction. I would have brought the ****ing house down if it was me that ate and drank spit. :fist:

What I don't get is how some people can hate Bear so much that they call him scum but think it was ok for Aubrey to spit in his food and drink and that he deserves it. What is it that tells people that her spitting in his food and drink is ever ok? :shrug:

He hasn't done anything but be annoying to people. He hasn't been aggressive and he hasn't done anything vile like that. If there is any justice, Aubrey who has sailed through without noms will be first out tonight and Bear who has given us a show and a real social experiment will win.

renee and aubrey destoryed bear's shoes, which was not shown. renee and aubrey always get quite generous edits by bb.

Mystic Mock
26-08-2016, 11:40 AM
renee and aubrey destoryed bear's shoes, which was not shown. renee and aubrey always get quite generous edits by bb.

So does Bear and Marnie according to Liam's thread.

Clootie Dumpling
26-08-2016, 11:40 AM
renee and aubrey destoryed bear's shoes, which was not shown. renee and aubrey always get quite generous edits by bb.

He's destroyed quite a few of his own jumping in the pool with his clothes on! :)

Kazanne
26-08-2016, 11:41 AM
I don't hate Bear,I just don't like the type of person he is,simple as that

Cherie
26-08-2016, 11:43 AM
I was about to quote the op and comment on a few of the points but honestly, i consider about 12 of the points to be unfactual and i just cant be bothered to put the time in. You say hes been funny, not aggressive, not annoying. I can assure you that many people disagree entirely. Also a lot of people believe he has completely ruined the series and i think a lot of hate comes from that, this is most of our favourite programme and to have it ruined by one chimp is infuriating.

Renee has been equally culpable in ruining the series, she's given him airtime, arguing with him, giving him the cold shoulder, making up with him, throwing herself at him, showing jealousy over Chloe, you can't lay it all at his feet, James played him perfectly apart from Coffeegate, as did Ricky, Renee used him for airtime no question

jaxie
26-08-2016, 11:43 AM
The simple answer is he is male :hee: Renee on the other hand who has been foul mouth, childish in the extreme ..not speaking...sitting alone...trying to use her influence to isolate Bear, threatened violence on Bear from her "friends " on the outside, knew Aubrey spat in his food though at that point they were friends, is being held up as some paragon of truth and virtue, you literally could write the script on here at times :hee: she should be getting equal if not more "hate" but no

You are totally right about Renee but why is there such a bias about females? I'm a woman and if the women in the house are a bunch of losers well I can deal with that. I don't have to like someone because they are a woman.

Clootie Dumpling
26-08-2016, 11:45 AM
You are totally right about Renee but why is there such a bias about females? I'm a woman and if the women in the house are a bunch of losers well I can deal with that. I don't have to like someone because they are a woman.

Disagree with you about Renee, Jaxie, but completely agree with your point about women. :)

Mystic Mock
26-08-2016, 11:46 AM
You are totally right about Renee but why is there such a bias about females? I'm a woman and if the women in the house are a bunch of losers well I can deal with that. I don't have to like someone because they are a woman.

I think people on the Forums get defensive over the females on Reality Shows because they're at a disadvatage from the offset.

Like in this series even if Aubrey hadn't have done the spitting incident she still wouldn't have had a chance at winning even though she's been less offsensive than Bear and Renee in most other areas imo, and imo I feel is more interesting than both of them too.

jaxie
26-08-2016, 11:48 AM
I was about to quote the op and comment on a few of the points but honestly, i consider about 12 of the points to be unfactual and i just cant be bothered to put the time in. You say hes been funny, not aggressive, not annoying. I can assure you that many people disagree entirely. Also a lot of people believe he has completely ruined the series and i think a lot of hate comes from that, this is most of our favourite programme and to have it ruined by one chimp is infuriating.

So you didn't actually read what I said then in your can't be botherdness because I said bear is annoying. :shrug:

Withano
26-08-2016, 11:49 AM
Renee has been equally culpable in ruining the series, she's given him airtime, arguing with him, giving him the cold shoulder, making up with him, throwing herself at him, showing jealousy over Chloe, you can't lay it all at his feet, James played him perfectly apart from Coffeegate, as did Ricky, Renee used him for airtime no question

Anybody antiratpack improved the show for me tbh. I can see why others would ask Renee to share the blame, not me though.

Withano
26-08-2016, 11:49 AM
So you didn't actually read what I said then in your can't be botherdness because I said bear is annoying. :shrug:

Soz. Make that 11 things then.

Cherie
26-08-2016, 11:56 AM
Anybody antiratpack improved the show for me tbh. I can see why others would ask Renee to share the blame, not me though.

She isn't anti rat pack though, she is anything but

Withano
26-08-2016, 11:59 AM
She isn't anti rat pack though, she is anything but

In your opinion.. In mine the best moments were when she put them in their place and still managed to rise above them by feeding them and accepting their bull**** apologies. Let me live.

Mystic Mock
26-08-2016, 12:01 PM
Renee is only against them because Bear doesn't fancy her.

Aubrey and Frankie are the real ones against Bear.

Vicky.
26-08-2016, 12:01 PM
If Bear wins then it's just encouraging BB to make a one man Big Brother all of the time and that's not on imo.

A vote against Bear to win is a vote for BB to be restored to a more BB17, BB13, CBB13 styled editing.

Except its really not. A 'vote against Bear' (especially if you wouldn't hate voted had it not been Bear) is playing directly into the producers hands. No editing will change, nothing will change. if anything if they get a ton of extra votes despite the show losing viewers, it will encourage the biased editing more :laugh:

But y'all continue punishing them for the terrible editing by lining their pockets. That will sure show them :D

Can't believe I fell for this in bb12. It is a rather clever move though by them

Voting who you actually like and want to win..is so much better than voting to 'spite' the people the vote money goes to...lol

Clootie Dumpling
26-08-2016, 12:03 PM
Renee is only against them because Bear doesn't fancy her.

Aubrey and Frankie are the real ones against Bear.

That's a bit old, now, Mock, TBH.

Vicky.
26-08-2016, 12:03 PM
Also if this protest vote rubbish must go ahead, may I suggest Renee as the recipient instead of Ricky. Ricky has been a nothing more than wallpaper with amazing eyes. Renee has been amazing. I can't really understand those who would vote just to STOP someone winning though rather than to try and help their fave win :laugh:

Mystic Mock
26-08-2016, 12:03 PM
Except its really not. A 'vote against Bear' (especially if you wouldn't hate voted had it not been Bear) is playing directly into the producers hands. No editing will change, nothing will change. if anything if they get a ton of extra votes despite the show losing viewers, it will encourage the biased editing more :laugh:

But y'all continue punishing them for the terrible editing by lining their pockets. That will sure show them :D

Can't believe I fell for this in bb12. It is a rather clever move though by them

Voting who you actually like and want to win..is so much better than voting to 'spite' the people the vote money goes to...lol

I can't vote at the moment due to personal reasons, but the public do need to let the production know what type of Housemates that they want to be the norm on BB and it's not Bear dominating airtime.

Mystic Mock
26-08-2016, 12:04 PM
That's a bit old, now, Mock, TBH.

She had a crush on Bear and when he showmanced with Chloe was when she turned on him.

Clootie Dumpling
26-08-2016, 12:06 PM
She had a crush on Bear and when he showmanced with Chloe was when she turned on him.

Yes ... ages ago, if that's what it really was. She doesn't have one, now!

rusticgal
26-08-2016, 12:07 PM
I know Bear has been an oik and has wound people up a lot but he has also been funny and he's made them work for their fee, even those who have coasted along have had to put up with antics.

The spitting incident really bothered me and it was never dealt with to my satisfaction. I would have brought the ****ing house down if it was me that ate and drank spit. :fist:

What I don't get is how some people can hate Bear so much that they call him scum but think it was ok for Aubrey to spit in his food and drink and that he deserves it. What is it that tells people that her spitting in his food and drink is ever ok? :shrug:

He hasn't done anything but be annoying to people. He hasn't been aggressive and he hasn't done anything vile like that. If there is any justice, Aubrey who has sailed through without noms will be first out tonight and Bear who has given us a show and a real social experiment will win.

He is a bully, antagonistic and a manipulator. His treatment of others is disgusting and he really doesn't care about anyone but himself. He is vile..

Cherie
26-08-2016, 12:12 PM
In your opinion.. In mine the best moments were when she put them in their place and still managed to rise above them by feeding them and accepting their bull**** apologies. Let me live.

You may live :laugh:

Also if this protest vote rubbish must go ahead, may I suggest Renee as the recipient instead of Ricky. Ricky has been a nothing more than wallpaper with amazing eyes. Renee has been amazing. I can't really understand those who would vote just to STOP someone winning though rather than to try and help their fave win :laugh:

Don't vote is the only way

Northern Monkey
26-08-2016, 12:22 PM
Some people just have different morals i guess.Personally i find tainting somebody elses food with bodily fluids and wanting somebody to be killed by contract killers and comparing them to cancer to worse than making a coffee cocktail or bursting a balloon.But hey i'm just funny like that i guess

jaxie
26-08-2016, 12:23 PM
Except its really not. A 'vote against Bear' (especially if you wouldn't hate voted had it not been Bear) is playing directly into the producers hands. No editing will change, nothing will change. if anything if they get a ton of extra votes despite the show losing viewers, it will encourage the biased editing more :laugh:

But y'all continue punishing them for the terrible editing by lining their pockets. That will sure show them :D

Can't believe I fell for this in bb12. It is a rather clever move though by them

Voting who you actually like and want to win..is so much better than voting to 'spite' the people the vote money goes to...lol

:clap1:

jaxie
26-08-2016, 12:25 PM
Some people just have different morals i guess.Personally i find tainting somebody elses food with bodily fluids and wanting somebody to be killed by contract killers and comparing them to cancer to worse than making a coffee cocktail or bursting a balloon.But hey i'm just funny like that i guess

:clap1: :clap1:

azi
26-08-2016, 12:29 PM
He's cancer.

Vicky.
26-08-2016, 12:35 PM
I can't vote at the moment due to personal reasons, but the public do need to let the production know what type of Housemates that they want to be the norm on BB and it's not Bear dominating airtime.

Despite being a Bear fan, I agree. I think the whole series being centred around one person is a bit crap tbh

But voting, when you wouldn't usually...to 'spite' them is really silly. Not voting at all, and switching off (only counts if you have a barb box though :fist: ) is the way to go. Not filling their pockets :D

Gollum
26-08-2016, 12:36 PM
I haven't had one favourite since the beginning of this series. I just want Ricky to win to see all of their faces. If being normal is sitting on the fence then I worry this show will get more mentally ill people like bear on this show. There have been crazy people on big brother who I've loved but I don't like any of the finalists apart from Ricky and Aubrey. I know Ricky doesn't putter glitter all over himself and acts overdramatic about everything making me want to turn off the tv like Frankie. He doesn't scream and cry 24/7 and always talks about where he comes from like Renee who goes about her mafia. He doesn't follow and isn't a imbecile like Marnie who I think is that stupid she needs to go back to school. He isn't an attention seeker and thinks he's so amazing and funny that everyone loves him like bear who is getting tedious. That's why I'm voting Ricky

jaxie
26-08-2016, 12:38 PM
He's cancer.

I hope you never experience that dreadful disease in your life or family. It's not a word I would use so lightly having seen the suffering it causes.

Northern Monkey
26-08-2016, 12:40 PM
I hope you never experience that dreadful disease in your life or family. It's not a word I would use so lightly having seen the suffering it causes.

:clap1: Some people think that ****'s funny.It's not something that should be joked about imo.

hot2go
26-08-2016, 12:47 PM
Bear fans are annoying to a Bear fan like me....he is top of the polls on here and has clearly got a huge following in general yet there are only a handful of us who own it on here and support him...every thread gets sabotaged by Bear haters yet hardly any of the many Bear fans back him on this forum.
Maybe the haters scare them away...be sad if that's true....I would never give them that much power...I feel sorry for people who celebrate their hate more than they celebrate their joy....they must be very unhappy individuals

Vicky.
26-08-2016, 12:51 PM
Bear fans are annoying to a Bear fan like me....he is top of the polls on here and has clearly got a huge following in general yet there are only a handful of us who own it on here and support him...every thread gets sabotaged by Bear haters yet hardly any of the many Bear fans back him on this forum.
Maybe the haters scare them away...be sad if that's true....I would never give them that much power...I feel sorry for people who celebrate their hate more than they celebrate their joy....they must be very unhappy individuals

I back him if he is in the right but say if he is in the wrong :shrug:

Supporting someone doesn't mean thinking they crap rainbows and sweat fairy dust you know :S

I don't really understand those who refuse to budge from a default 'he is right' position anymore than I understand people who exaggerate everything he does and refuse to accept when he does anything right.

joeysteele
26-08-2016, 01:57 PM
The simple answer is he is male :hee: Renee on the other hand who has been foul mouth, childish in the extreme ..not speaking...sitting alone...trying to use her influence to isolate Bear, threatened violence on Bear from her "friends " on the outside, knew Aubrey spat in his food though at that point they were friends, is being held up as some paragon of truth and virtue, you literally could write the script on here at times :hee: she should be getting equal if not more "hate" but no

Really strong and fair post Cherie.

Johnnyuk123
26-08-2016, 02:26 PM
There is a Bear on every street corner around the globe. The snot nosed little brat that eggs your windows for a laugh. The one who kicks your dog cos their bored.
The one with the potty mouth who's every other word has fek in it. The one with all the asbo's who wears them like medals. The one who is on first name terms with the police.
The kind of kid that only it's mother could ever love/ be proud of whilst the rest of us can't wait for the day they get kicked off the estate. The same day it brings misery to a fresh set of peoples lives just for a laugh, until they too report it and get the bell end and it's Dingle family moved on.

Tom4784
26-08-2016, 02:34 PM
Nothing about him is real and the production team has blatantly favoured him to promote Ex on the Beach and to raise his profile for any future Reality shows that MTV's got planned for him.

I don't understand how anyone could support what is essentially more of a PR robot than a person.

Adamw92
26-08-2016, 03:09 PM
Except he hasn't been funny, entertaining or anything close to it. He's been an awful bully and he's completely ruined the series and he deserves all the hate coming his way.

jaxie
26-08-2016, 03:11 PM
Bear fans are annoying to a Bear fan like me....he is top of the polls on here and has clearly got a huge following in general yet there are only a handful of us who own it on here and support him...every thread gets sabotaged by Bear haters yet hardly any of the many Bear fans back him on this forum.
Maybe the haters scare them away...be sad if that's true....I would never give them that much power...I feel sorry for people who celebrate their hate more than they celebrate their joy....they must be very unhappy individuals

Well here is the thing. I think Bear deserves the win but I can't say I like him enough to spend money voting for him and I do vote when I like someone so I wouldn't call myself a fan no. There are times I've thought him annoying. Times I've found him funny but I feel no passion for any of them in there as a supporter.

Ian Coke
26-08-2016, 03:12 PM
I know Bear has been an oik and has wound people up a lot but he has also been funny and he's made them work for their fee, even those who have coasted along have had to put up with antics.

The spitting incident really bothered me and it was never dealt with to my satisfaction. I would have brought the ****ing house down if it was me that ate and drank spit. :fist:

What I don't get is how some people can hate Bear so much that they call him scum but think it was ok for Aubrey to spit in his food and drink and that he deserves it. What is it that tells people that her spitting in his food and drink is ever ok? :shrug:

He hasn't done anything but be annoying to people. He hasn't been aggressive and he hasn't done anything vile like that. If there is any justice, Aubrey who has sailed through without noms will be first out tonight and Bear who has given us a show and a real social experiment will win.

In fairness, Bear would happily perform various unchristian acts on Aubrey, so a bit of her saliva in his food was probably neither here nor there.

alex_front2
26-08-2016, 03:29 PM
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Bear is a hypocrite when it comes to food. On Shipwrecked he guarded the food for dear life and became aggressive over it going missing. Just dug up this article to highlight this

http://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/1532953/ill-punch-you-black-and-blue-stephen-bears-violent-past-revealed-in-shock-shipwrecked-footage/



But fans of Stephen Bear will be well aware of his temper – having seen it first hand when he made his reality TV debut on Shipwrecked back in 2011.

In shocking footage that has re-emerged Stephen – who once dated Vicky Pattison – threatens to beat up a fellow contestant who has stolen his food rations.

He blasted: “If I weren’t on this island I’d punch you black and blue. I’ll knock you clean out so fast mate you’re a weasel.”

The altercation occurred when Stephen discovered that some of his food supplies had been stolen – on the show food was rationed so it was particularly precious.

But rather than being calm about the situation Bear called a meeting and demanded the culprit reveal themselves.

Carl Finley bravely revealed it was him and claimed he had done it because Bear was being horrible to other people on the island.

Liam-
26-08-2016, 03:32 PM
He's only getting the hate he deserves, if you want to act like an asshole, treat people like dirt and make them cry multiple times, then you really should be ready and accepting of the hate that's going to come towards you.

azi
26-08-2016, 03:45 PM
I hope you never experience that dreadful disease in your life or family. It's not a word I would use so lightly having seen the suffering it causes.

It's a metaphor...

http://i.imgur.com/diyR5C3.gif

Kazanne
26-08-2016, 03:58 PM
There is a Bear on every street corner around the globe. The snot nosed little brat that eggs your windows for a laugh. The one who kicks your dog cos their bored.
The one with the potty mouth who's every other word has fek in it. The one with all the asbo's who wears them like medals. The one who is on first name terms with the police.
The kind of kid that only it's mother could ever love/ be proud of whilst the rest of us can't wait for the day they get kicked off the estate. The same day it brings misery to a fresh set of peoples lives just for a laugh, until they too report it and get the bell end and it's Dingle family moved on.

:worship::worship::worship::clap1::clap1:

sungrass
26-08-2016, 06:58 PM
There is a Bear on every street corner around the globe. The snot nosed little brat that eggs your windows for a laugh. The one who kicks your dog cos their bored.
The one with the potty mouth who's every other word has fek in it. The one with all the asbo's who wears them like medals. The one who is on first name terms with the police.
The kind of kid that only it's mother could ever love/ be proud of whilst the rest of us can't wait for the day they get kicked off the estate. The same day it brings misery to a fresh set of peoples lives just for a laugh, until they too report it and get the bell end and it's Dingle family moved on.

Not only are you a total snob - but it seems you have completely misjudged his character - I could say this about Heavy D yes - but not Bear - he is intelligent and kind. I ve seen him in other shows and I know. He is not a council estate oik - trust me I would know! He doesn't talk with a fake Jamaican accent - he has traveled all over the world, he works and he and his family are working class.

He makes breakfast for people after apologising in a 50/50 argument and they chuck it in the bin - I could go on but there is not enough time. Bears Beach Club/Slick Ricks etc

You have judged him wrong from the beginning if only you could see how clever he actually is.

Vicky.
26-08-2016, 07:07 PM
In shocking footage that has re-emerged Stephen – who once dated Vicky Pattison – threatens to beat up a fellow contestant who has stolen his food rations.

FFS, is there any male on this earth that hasnt 'dated' (ie. shagged) Vicky Pattinson? They are everywhere :laugh:

Robodog
26-08-2016, 07:35 PM
Lewis is the true villain this year

Full of actual anger, disguised by a thin veil of BS

Lewis got truly aggressive (Bear never did)

Lewis insulted, belittled and intimidated in a direct, nasty way in full seriousness

Bear is loud, dominating, antagonistic and he prances around like some toxic jester, but he never got personal and properly nasty, not on Lewis's level

Vanessa
26-08-2016, 07:39 PM
Bear to Win! He has been fantastic! :cheer2:

Johnnyuk123
26-08-2016, 07:39 PM
Not only are you a total snob - but it seems you have completely misjudged his character - I could say this about Heavy D yes - but not Bear - he is intelligent and kind. I ve seen him in other shows and I know. He is not a council estate oik - trust me I would know! He doesn't talk with a fake Jamaican accent - he has traveled all over the world, he works and he and his family are working class.

He makes breakfast for people after apologising in a 50/50 argument and they chuck it in the bin - I could go on but there is not enough time. Bears Beach Club/Slick Ricks etc

You have judged him wrong from the beginning if only you could see how clever he actually is.

He is what he is and that is a bell end z list none entity of the highest order.