Who is a worse winner?

[andybigbro]

Helen or Bear?

Both VILE but someone won.

[Jordan.]

Bear, Helens win annoyed me more because she took it from Ashleigh but I'd choose her to win over him.

[Jack_]

Sam Evans

[Daniel.]

Bear it isnt close

[Oaker]

Bear

[Will.]

Bear

[Pete.]

It's tricky. Helen was funny that one time so Bear

[LukeB]

Both.

[Firewire]

Bear

[T*]

Sam Evans

edgy af x

[Shaun]

I'm not going to excuse Helen in the heat of how awful this decision is. She ruined two series, he only ruined one.

[Wizard.]

Helen was a queen he doesn't compare

[lewis111]

Helen showed some regret and remorse at the end of the series

Bear was the same through out
AND
He thought he was gonna win he was so big headed Helen was shocked

However
Helen won 100k Bear didn't

[LukeB]

Helen showed some regret and remorse at the end of the series


No she played victim and then carried on being awful the following year.. that's not showing regret or remorse.

[Tarryn]

Helen was vile but unfortunately it was her true self unlike Bear who was acting the entire series.
I never wanted to switch off while watching the series Helen was in but this series for the first time since BB started I missed the last three episodes because of that twat Bear.

[Jamie89]

Helen, as much as I can't stand Bear I think a lot of it has been an act, whereas I think Helen really is a truly awful person

[ebandit]

...my worst...that awful american actor guy....jason etc

Mark L

[EspeonBB]

I stopped watching CBB18 because of Bear whilst I never stopped watching BB15 despite Helen being awful so I guess Bear is worse?

Idk they're both awful

[caprimint]

Bear is the best winner of all time, so Helen by default. Plus Ashleigh should've won.

[Daniel.]

Helen, as much as I can't stand Bear I think a lot of it has been an act, whereas I think Helen really is a truly awful person

If someone's act involved goading and winding people up until they snap and feel awful, there an awful perso tho

[Black Dagger]

Helen never made me stop watching my favourite show :)

[Epic.]

Bear by a country mile. Helen is just overly fiery to the point where she can be nasty, making for a more fleshed out housemate. Bear is just an overly calculating over the top person who deliberately provokes people. Then he acts nice to people only to make them pissed off at him 5 minutes later. That mentally ruins someone, see Renee and Aubrey. He is easily the worst winner of all of reality tv.

[Jack_]

edgy af x

Not meant to be edgy luv but your bitter-fuelled unnecessary sarcasm is forgiven x

[Macie Lightfoot]

Aaron Allard-Morgan

[Tom4784]

They're both the joint worst winners in BB history. Completely hideous individuals.

[SocietyIsRuined]

I'm not going to excuse Helen in the heat of how awful this decision is. She ruined two series, he only ruined one.

Agreed.

[Jason.]

Mess I made a similar poll unaware there was already one.

But Bear.

[Cal.]

Helen wasn't a bad winner. Get OVER IT.

[Mystic Mock]

Bear as at least there was stuff being shown on BB15 that weren't to do with Helen.

But the worst winners are the quiet ones, they completely go against everything to do with BB as a social experiment.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Anyway, as annoying as Bear might be, Helen has a black hole where her heart should be so I vote her.

[Jason.]

Helen, as much as I can't stand Bear I think a lot of it has been an act, whereas I think Helen really is a truly awful person

Did you watch BB15?

[Ashley.]

Both equally repulsive, equally nauseous and equally intolerable.

[Daniel.]

The quiet winners are the worst thing is ****ing tired

[Oaker]

there's nothing wrong with a cute under the radar nice winner such as James and Katie Price

[Mystic Mock]

The quiet winners are the worst thing is ****ing tired

But it is as all that can be discussed is how incredibly dull they were.

At least Bear, Helen, Nadia, Brian Dowling, and Josie etc all did things to inspire people to love them or hate them, someone like Jason Burill or James Hill did **** all and still won, I mean wtf!?:joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

yeah, considering that the alternative winner archetype is "loud asshole who dominates airtime by using the same tactics for literal months" I much prefer *BORING* MORP winners like Rachel and Chloe and Sam. I don't know, considering the current state of this show it's nice to see actual decent people being rewarded since it happens so rarely now.

[Cal.]

Helen, Nadia, Brian = the best winners

[Jason.]

James Hill being boring is a myth.

He was actually a massive contributing factor to CBB16 even if he wasn't Janice Dickinson or Farrah Abraham.

[Mystic Mock]

there's nothing wrong with a cute under the radar nice winner such as James and Katie Price

Katie Price could be funny, that's a personality trait to me.

I don't mind chilled out winners, I do mind quiet zombie winners though.:laugh:

[Cal.]

Katie Price is the best CBB winner.

[EspeonBB]

there's nothing wrong with a cute under the radar nice winner such as James and Katie Price

Doing nothing (although most of the 'boring winners' actually had cute moments) is a lot better than actively ruining the show like Helen and Bear did

[Mystic Mock]

yeah, considering that the alternative winner archetype is "loud asshole who dominates airtime by using the same tactics for literal months" I much prefer *BORING* MORP winners like Rachel and Chloe and Sam. I don't know, considering the current state of this show it's nice to see actual decent people being rewarded since it happens so rarely now.

I don't want it to be in extremes all of the time though Macie.

I'd like it if a Freddie Fisher, Kieran McLeod, James Whale, or a Lisa BB9 type of winner where they're eccentric/witty whilst still being likable and not in your face all of the time, yet we never get those and instead have loud in your face type of winners like Bear, or we get really dull Chloe from BB16 type of winners.

[Macie Lightfoot]

is Kieran McLeod seriously your go-to example of an eccentric HM?

[Daniel.]

James Hill :love:

[Mystic Mock]

is Kieran McLeod seriously your go-to example of an eccentric HM?

His humour was kind of chilled out for Ch5 standards, it was refreshing and eccentric for them.:joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

"gap year for chavs" and "YAY you're back :)" are much more witty and eccentric than anything Kieran ever said or did

[Jack_]

The quiet winners are the worst thing is ****ing tired

As is all the hysteria and hyperbole surrounding dislikeable contestants winning reality TV programmes being 'scum' like it's the end of the world and a cultural failure etc etc etc, talk about 'doing the most'

Anyway I haven't watched three quarters of this series and I didn't rate Bear that much when I stopped so the inevitable debate that'll now ensue as members of this forum try and paint me as some villain is entirely pointless and misplaced, so let's quit while we're ahead shall we

[Mystic Mock]

"gap year for chavs" and "YAY you're back :)" are much more witty and eccentric than anything Kieran ever said or did

Kieran in two weeks did more than most of the BB16 final, or this final for that matter.:joker:

[Oaker]

Kieran did literally nothing in his 2 weeks

[Jamie89]

If someone's act involved goading and winding people up until they snap and feel awful, there an awful perso tho

He's definitely awful, it's not a defense of him, I just thought Helen's awfulness seemed to come more naturally to her, which puts her ahead of him imo.

Did you watch BB15?

I didn't to be fair, I'm just going on what I saw of her in BB16. I can't bring myself to watch BB15 [emoji23]

[Mystic Mock]

Kieran did literally nothing in his 2 weeks

Just because Kieran wasn't in your face doesn't mean that he didn't do anything.

He made social blunders with Sarah and Eileen, and Adjoa which was amusing to watch.

And he was actually likable.

He liked to have fun.

He used to start up games for people to join in.

And tbh it was no coincidence that Danny became an unbearable nightmare after Kieran left, and that the series missed a bit of fun that Kieran would bring to the house.

I know that Kieran isn't a sassy female Housemate so some of you will have it against him for that, but he brought positivity into his series which is always a good thing imo, and he kept Danny quiet.:joker:

[y.winter]

Would you rather get Zika or Ebola?

[Robodog]

People still freaking out about Helen like they are on some 1600s witch hunt 'burn the witch, burn the witch!'

Bit pathetic to be honest

[Guuki]

Helen, 100%.

[Glenn-C]

At least Helen was still gracious and humble at her win, unlike "I told you I'd win!"

[rusticgal]

They're both the joint worst winners in BB history. Completely hideous individuals.


Well I have to agree with you there...both vile in different ways,

[user104658]

I won over £300 on Helen winning and it still was hard to swallow because I utterly despise her.

I lost £20 on Bear winning, and it still makes me SO happy that I might legitimately shed a happy little tear as I fall asleep tonight, huge grin on my face.

Sooo...

[Lush]

Helen was a total cow but at least she showed a somewhat human side to her on very rare occasions. I also think her beating Ashleigh is what made her win so unbelievably depressing. She stopped us from having probably the best winner since Nadia.

I could literally write paragraphs on why I despise Bear with every fibre of my being, but I'll put it like this, I have the exact same thoughts about his win that I would have had if Conor had won BB13.

So yeah, Bear is a worse winner.

[_Tom_]

Helen never made me stop watching my favourite show :)

Yep, this.

[RodHull]

Then he acts nice to people only to make them pissed off at him 5 minutes later. That mentally ruins someone, see Renee and Aubrey. He is easily the worst winner of all of reality tv.

What you mean like a 10 year old... thats how most kids behave the fact as grown adults they couldnt just rise above his stupidity amazes me, its cause deep down they all knew he was a favourite to win and they HATED the fact :laugh:

As for the poll its flawed wheres the option for 2 of the best winners of ch5 era?

[Vicky.]

Don't think either are vile tbh. But I prefer Bear to Helen

[Amy Jade]

Both terrible but at least Helen came out with some iconic quotes and got Matthew evicted