Are pops gals (besides Rihanna & Adele) over?

[Cal.]

Seems you can only top the chart with a dance track these days :worry:

Thoughts?

[Smithy]

Rihanna is flopping just as bad of the rest of them?

Taylor isn't over, PI will cement gags after one underperforming era, knee is long over but keeps trying bless her, Katy will always have 8 year old to pander too

[Cal.]

Who the **** is gonna be bopping to Perfect Illusion

[Cal.]

How is Rihanna flopping she's had like 4 hits this year?

[Cal.]

Hmm Taylor and Katy aren't over either I agree.

The rest are

[Saph]

Rihanna is flopping just as bad of the rest of them?

PI will cement gags after one underperforming era

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[Pete.]

Hmm 2016 has seen the revival of pop thank goodness, it seemed like it was dying out in 2013/2014. Rihanna is still huge (#1 for 10 weeks in USA with Work + Too Good, TIWYCF and Needed Me smashing = flopping?) but she's gone more R&B, same with Beyoncé.

Gwen & Britney's albums have both performed well in the charts too + new pop acts like Ariana have been received well... don't think pop is dying out just yet. Praying for Gags' release, hope ARTPOP & C2C & acting break & farming haven't damaged her career too much

Katy's new stuff should do well too

[Cal.]

Oh wow Pete educated me I guess

[Cal.]

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[Smithy]

How is Rihanna flopping she's had like 4 hits this year?
Work and This is What You Came For? Neither of which are solo singles :shrug: when was the last time she had a solo hit?

She's had about half a dozen flops too, an album which's sales are dire for considering and a crap tour turnout


Who the **** is gonna be bopping to Perfect Illusion

You, lemme bump on Friday :fan:

[Smithy]

Oh yeah, obv Bey ain't over after Lemonslayde

[Cal.]

Well I won't be

[Pete.]

Work and This is What You Came For? Neither of which are solo singles :shrug: when was the last time she had a solo hit?

Needed Me:
US Billboard Hot 100 - 7
US Dance Club Songs (Billboard) - 1
US Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs (Billboard) - 2
US Mainstream Top 40 (Billboard) - 16
US Rhythmic (Billboard) - 1

an album which's sales are dire for considering

UK - 100,000 (Gold)
USA - 500,000 (2x Platinum)

[Jessica.]

I don't feel like Rihanna is on the same level as the others mentioned either, hope gaga pulls through in a few days. I think Beyoncés releases are still going to be high on everyone's list for quite a while

[Marsh.]

If Rihanna doesn't ruin Bates Motel next year she may have a new fan. :smug:

[Smithy]

Needed Me:
US Billboard Hot 100 - 7

UK - 100,000 (Gold)
USA - 500,000 (2x Platinum)

I deleted the irrelevant charts, even then I'd hardly call needed me a hit, where did it chart in the UK?

....and thank you for proving my point I guess? A hit like work and only 600k pure sales in two of the biggest markets in the world

[LukeB]

Needed Me:
US Billboard Hot 100 - 7
US Dance Club Songs (Billboard) - 1
US Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs (Billboard) - 2
US Mainstream Top 40 (Billboard) - 16
US Rhythmic (Billboard) - 1



UK - 100,000 (Gold)
USA - 500,000 (2x Platinum)

Tbf 100k is pretty poor for a big artist and the usa is massive so a big artist should easily sell over a million so 500k is quite low for america standards.

[Cal.]

Tinashe isn't over either. She's on top!

[Liam-]

Rihanna hasn't released anything decent since Diamonds so I'd say she's pretty much dead.

[LukeB]

Rihanna's last album sold
600k in the uk and over 1 million in the usa

She has had a big drop in sales with anti.

[Dominic]

Meghan Trainor has been dominating the charts in 2016, her album is already 20x Diamond and is predicted to win 49 Grammys. So no...

[Cal.]

Tinashe released Superlove.

[Pete.]

Rihanna's last album sold
600k in the uk and over 1 million in the usa

She has had a big drop in sales with anti.
An album that was released 4 years ago in a different sales climate and has been collecting sales over those 4 years?

[Ross.]

Dua Lipa's album will end all their careers anyway

[LukeB]

An album that was released 4 years ago in a different sales climate and has been collecting sales over those 4 years?

But didn't she sell loads of copies that year? but anti has flopped this year like people call artpop a flop and that sold pretty much the same in a year as anti.

[Samm]

Rihanna's last album sold
600k in the uk and over 1 million in the usa

She has had a big drop in sales with anti.

Album sales have declined for everyone? Rihanna is still on top Work and TIWYCF have been massive hits (I know it's not her own song but still it counts) and she's still virtually everywhere.

[Pete.]

But didn't she sell loads of copies that year? but anti has flopped this year like people call artpop a flop and that sold pretty much the same in a year as anti.
ARTPOP was called a failure largely because of the content while Anti was critically well received :/

[Marsh.]

Hmm 2016 has seen the revival of pop thank goodness, it seemed like it was dying out in 2013/2014. Rihanna is still huge (#1 for 10 weeks in USA with Work + Too Good, TIWYCF and Needed Me smashing = flopping?) but she's gone more R&B, same with Beyoncé.

Gwen & Britney's albums have both performed well in the charts too + new pop acts like Ariana have been received well... don't think pop is dying out just yet. Praying for Gags' release, hope ARTPOP & C2C & acting break & farming haven't damaged her career too much

Katy's new stuff should do well too

Hardly an acting break. She fit it around everything else didn't she?

I don't think a golden globe win for a 10 episode stint will do her career any harm.

[Samm]

I'm not delusional and I know Britney will never reach her high standards again but Glory has outdone a lot of people's expectations, it's reached a higher place in the charts in nearly every country I think against Britney Jean and it's her most critically acclaimed album since her debut. A brilliant comeback from 2 years ago.

She's also doing a lot more concerts and award shows this year and still has the iHeartRadio festival and the Apple Music Festival to attend to so she's still in demand, and this proves she still has a role in the industry maybe not as big as she once had but she's not a 'flop'

[Samm]

you all wait till lily comes back with the fourth wall as well

[Jessica.]

you all wait till lily comes back with the fourth wall as well
Who?

[Jake.]

you all wait till lily comes back with the fourth wall as well

I'm excited but she needs a good enough debut single (which can actually get radio play unlike HOH)

[Daniel-X]

Selena and Ariana have cemented themselves as the new faces of pop I think. Rih and Bey have gone more down an R&B ruit and I wouldn't class either as pop girls anymore. Adele obvi is still very popular.

[Headie]

Isn't the reason ANTI didn't do amazing in sales because it was released for free through TIDAL? I sure as hell didn't buy my copy when there was a legally free version out there online lmao

[Daniel-X]

ANTI 'flopped' in the sales because like Hayden said it was released for free, it's actually been critically acclaimed just like Glory has for Brit.

[Pete.]

I bought ANTI tbh :clap1:

[Smithy]

Let's not get positively received mixed up with critically acclaimed now ladies

[EspeonBB]

Taylor, Katy (although Rise flopped it wasn't her lead single) and Bey are still doing well though?

[Will.]

Isn't the reason ANTI didn't do amazing in sales because it was released for free through TIDAL? I sure as hell didn't buy my copy when there was a legally free version out there online lmao

I think it was on Apple Music as well.

[EspeonBB]

Anti was a success. Yeah she declined in sales since Unapologetic but literally everyone has. Plus it was released at a bad time of year for album sales (January) and as Hayden said it was available for free for a while

[reece(:]

I didn't realise a #10 week number one considered you as a flop, interesting!

[Brother Leon]

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