The First Live TV Debate : Trump Vs Clinton 2AM Ch4HD /SkyNewsHD 26th/9

[arista]

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Clinton women needs to
tell the world her plans
as she has no answer to
USA Companies going to Mexico.
USA High taxes have been
given as one reason.


Trump will change for this 1 on 1 fight
of course.

[Nicky91]

Go Donald Trump, I am backing him as president, we already had a clinton in the white house, and i think the white house staff will be happy with Trump winning, because the Clintons are very difficult people i've read that somewhere :shocked: :D

[Crimson Dynamo]

Here for Trump to shine

[Firewire]

Go Donald Trump, I am backing him as president, we already had a clinton in the white house, and i think the white house staff will be happy with Trump winning, because the Clintons are very difficult people i've read that somewhere :shocked: :D

No Nicky no

[Nicky91]

No Nicky no

what, i rather have Donald Trump as the next president, than another dull clinton :hee:

[Pete.]

Go Donald Trump, I am backing him as president, we already had a clinton in the white house, and i think the white house staff will be happy with Trump winning, because the Clintons are very difficult people i've read that somewhere :shocked: :D

Here for Trump to shine

what, i rather have Donald Trump as the next president, than another dull clinton :hee:

:bored:

[Nicky91]

:bored:

what, I find Trump becoming better in his speeches, and i don't think Trump will have all the power, presidents never have all the power :hehe:


but i am also curious what sort of dog Trump will have as the first dog :hee:

[Withano]

Imagine theres actually a debate for the job of the president between a qualified candidate who has studied and lived around politics all their life versus some bloke whose unique selling point is that they're just a bit racist

[Kizzy]

This is going to be car crash TV. I feel sorry for the state of the UK, but with these two I feel uber sorry for the US.

[arista]

This is going to be car crash TV. I feel sorry for the state of the UK, but with these two I feel uber sorry for the US.


Yes
of course ,
alot can happen
before this first Live TV debate
Monday USA
Tuesday AM UK
26th Monday Sept

[Smithy]

Go Donald Trump, I am backing him as president, we already had a clinton in the white house, and i think the white house staff will be happy with Trump winning, because the Clintons are very difficult people i've read that somewhere :shocked: :D

what, I find Trump becoming better in his speeches, and i don't think Trump will have all the power, presidents never have all the power :hehe:


but i am also curious what sort of dog Trump will have as the first dog :hee:

Jfc

[the truth]

clinton is simply too fake, she even lies to herself...she doesnt know what the truth is anymore...trump is a afr more open book even though he loves to exaggerate he doesnt flat out lie and avoid all questions like her

[EspeonBB]

This is going to be a huge mess

Poor America

[MB.]

what, i rather have Donald Trump as the next president, than another dull clinton :hee:

Nicky here, applying the same logic to the presidency of the United States as to the final of Celebrity Big Brother

[the truth]

the gap is down to 0.9% lets face it , it he survives the debates without offending everyone , its going to be the trump house

[the truth]

Nicky here, applying the same logic to the presidency of the United States as to the final of Celebrity Big Brother

cant see that much difference , other than the marcus bentley narration

[Tom4784]

Imagine theres actually a debate for the job of the president between a qualified candidate who has studied and lived around politics all their life versus some bloke whose unique selling point is that they're just a bit racist

It's grim beyond grim.

[bots]

Hilary isn't qualified though, she got thrown out the lawyers club I believe, and the positions she's managed to hold on to have been handed to her on a plate. I hope this is a wake up call for the American people and that they demand credible candidates for the job from this point forward

[the truth]

Hilary isn't qualified though, she got thrown out the lawyers club I believe, and the positions she's managed to hold on to have been handed to her on a plate. I hope this is a wake up call for the American people and that they demand credible candidates for the job from this point forward

totally agree.....really disastrous candidates. the whole senate has stunk to the high heavens for decades, they simply ignore the masses and get paid off millions by the corporations. trump may be a bit of a buffoon in many ways but ultimately hes an anti establishment vote like brexit. in the end the momentum behind that movement may be enough

[Maru]

Imagine theres actually a debate for the job of the president between a qualified candidate who has studied and lived around politics all their life versus some bloke whose unique selling point is that they're just a bit racist

If you don't think Trump is a skilled snake oil salesmen then you don't know Trump :laugh:

[Rob!]

Go Donald Trump, I am backing him as president, we already had a clinton in the white house, and i think the white house staff will be happy with Trump winning, because the Clintons are very difficult people i've read that somewhere :shocked: :D

VERY surprised

[Withano]

If you don't think Trump is a skilled snake oil salesmen then you don't know Trump :laugh:

If you think hes anything but a complete ****, then you're not taking it seriously

[Withano]

the gap is down to 0.9% lets face it , it he survives the debates without offending everyone , its going to be the trump house

I've seen you say something like this before, I don't think you understand how the voting works

[the truth]

I've seen you say something like this before, I don't think you understand how the voting works

Lol thanks for your concern I understand it perfectly, this is simply a poll of polls across the entire USA...we can get intot he minutiae of state by state , but the poll of polls is a very clear indicator of how the masses are voting and its down from 7.9% lead to just 0.9% lead for clinton in the last 6 weeks since the convention...that is one heck of a movement. In the end like all elections it will come down to each individual place, each worth different amounts towards the sum total required and even in the biggest places, trump has either narrowed massively or taken a slight lead. The debates will of course be crucial

[Tom4784]

I don't think the polls will mean anything when it comes down to the voting (not that I believe any stats Truth puts out anyway). The only voters he appeals to are the straight white people with racist tendencies which means that he won't have any impact with anyone who doesn't fit into his narrow demographic and the last two elections have shown that the vote Trump is courting no longer wins the White House by itself.

[the truth]

I don't think the polls will mean anything when it comes down to the voting (not that I believe any stats Truth puts out anyway). The only voters he appeals to are the straight white people with racist tendencies which means that he won't have any impact with anyone who doesn't fit into his narrow demographic and the last two elections have shown that the vote Trump is courting no longer wins the White House by itself.

cheers for calling me a liar lol

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[arista]

Yes
the truth

CNN HD Live said today
the Polls all say its very close now.

[Withano]

Not really the point we're making though.. Polls are entirely irrelevant.

[bots]

Not really the point we're making though.. Polls are entirely irrelevant.

hardly, they give a fairly accurate impression of public opinion, and what the trend of opinion is over time. Very relevant I would say.

The margin of error in polls is such that one really has no idea who will win this election. Its too close to call, at least at this point. Literally either could win it, so pretending otherwise could just lead to disappointment down the line.

[GiRTh]

Not really the point we're making though.. Polls are entirely irrelevant.
The official polls they use are accurate. They predicted Obama's win in both 2008 and 2012 and in 2012 Obama actually won by a bigger margin than the polls were predicting even though many didnt believe the polls and thought Romney was much closer.

Trump is running rings around the media at the moment. He cant be pinned down on policy, he doesnt answer questions, he yet not one of the supposedly skilled media cann pin him down on anything. He a complete joke and they are an even bigger joke. He changes his mind on a daily basis but it looks like he understands TV better than most of the media and thus not much is sticking at the moment

The debate is gonna be essential viewing. It will be nothing like they have had before and I dont think the winner will be decided at that point. Trump will call HRC 'lying Hillary' and 'corrupt Hillary' over and over again and it might stick

[Withano]

hardly, they give a fairly accurate impression of public opinion, and what the trend of opinion is over time. Very relevant I would say.

The margin of error in polls is such that one really has no idea who will win this election. Its too close to call, at least at this point. Literally either could win it, so pretending otherwise could just lead to disappointment down the line.

But public opinion isnt how the winner will be decided, it isn't the most votes win. Theres an entirely different method in place so na, irrelevant.

[bots]

But public opinion isnt how the winner will be decided, it isn't the most votes win. Theres an entirely different method in place so na, irrelevant.

and its the same in the UK, it doesn't stop polls being incredibley accurately recently. As I was also saying, trends are also very important

[Liberty4eva]

Because Trump would be way more friendly to an independent UK than Hillary, it makes logical sense for the British to support Trump. There are really only a handful of people here that are immune to this social justice warrior crap.

Anyways, Trump should win the debate.

[Withano]

and its the same in the UK, it doesn't stop polls being incredibley accurately recently. As I was also saying, trends are also very important

Ukip got 12.6% of the vote and 1 in 650 seats. They done similarly well in polls. Thats how incredibly inaccurate polls are. So na, irrelevant.

[bots]

Ukip got 12.6% of the vote and 1 in 650 seats. They done similarly well in polls. Thats how incredibly inaccurate polls are. So na, irrelevant.

thats fine. Lets mark this thread, and then refer back to it at the result. I don't need to argue. I have no horse in this race

[Withano]

thats fine. Lets mark this thread, and then refer back to it at the result. I don't need to argue. I have no horse in this race

You dont understand.. Trump could top the poll, Clinton could top the poll and that does not matter, that is not how the winner is decided

Its the same in the UK, it did not matter that UKIP got 12.6% of the vote, they wont get 12.6% of the seats cos thats not how it works.

[bots]

You dont understand.. Trump could top the poll, Clinton could top the poll and that does not matter, that is not how the winner is decided

Its the same in the UK, it did not matter that UKIP got 12.6% of the vote, they wont get 12.6% of the seats cos thats not how it works.

Are you aware of just how accurate the polls in the UK have been in recent years? Identifying almost seat for seat who would win. I think it is you who doesn't understand the nature of polls these days.

[Withano]

Are you aware of just how accurate the polls in the UK have been in recent years? Identifying almost seat for seat who would win. I think it is you who doesn't understand the nature of polls these days.

They havent been at all accurate, not that it matters with a general election because popular opinion is not how its decided.

[bots]

They havent been at all accurate, not that it matters with a general election because popular opinion is not how its decided.

but these are polls, which doesn't necessarily equate with public opinion. Sorry, but evidence of accuracy is there for all to see in recent elections in both the USA and here in the UK. If you don't want to acknowledge that, that's fine. I'm just curious why you would want to discard a poll as a useful indicator though. What purpose does that serve? Would you rather be ignorant of trends? Do you want to believe there can only be one possible winner, no matter what evidence is presented to the contrary? I find it intriguing.

[Withano]

but these are polls, which doesn't necessarily equate with public opinion. Sorry, but evidence of accuracy is there for all to see in recent elections in both the USA and here in the UK. If you don't want to acknowledge that, that's fine. I'm just curious why you would want to discard a poll as a useful indicator though. What purpose does that serve? Would you rather be ignorant of trends? Do you want to believe there can only be one possible winner, no matter what evidence is presented to the contrary? I find it intriguing.

I don't care who wins really, theres just no point in being like 'uh-oh the polls are close, trump has a chance now' no.. He could top the polls and it would not make a difference. It is irrelevant. He will win if he gets more states behind him, not more people. The polls represent the latter and they are irrelevant.

[Withano]

but these are polls, which doesn't necessarily equate with public opinion. Sorry, but evidence of accuracy is there for all to see in recent elections in both the USA and here in the UK. If you don't want to acknowledge that, that's fine. I'm just curious why you would want to discard a poll as a useful indicator though. What purpose does that serve? Would you rather be ignorant of trends? Do you want to believe there can only be one possible winner, no matter what evidence is presented to the contrary? I find it intriguing.

Let me word it a different way for you

You need 270 areas to take control

Clinton has 169 pretty much secured and an extra 55 are likely
Trump has 97 pretty much secured and an extra 23 are likely

Thats 224:120 with 194 unclear areas.

It doesnt matter that Trump is nearing Clinton in popularity polls, because, that is not how the winner is decided.

[bots]

here are recent changes :

http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/content/images/LJS2016091901-table1.png

Here is the current map:

http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/content/images//2016_09_19_pres_600.png


Its a trend favouring Trump, and by no means an assured victory for Hillary.

The question is, what has Trump done to improve his rating? Nothing. Some things just happen.

[Tom4784]

I imagine the debates will be the death of Trump's campaign, his policies are senseless and vague and the debates should put that in plain sight. I imagine he'll resort to his playground insults before long, As long as Hillary doesn't get drawn into it and stands her ground then she should be able to come out on top easily.

I still refuse to believe that people outside of his bigoted fandom will actually vote for him.

[Withano]

here are recent changes :

http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/content/images/LJS2016091901-table1.png

Here is the current map:

http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/content/images//2016_09_19_pres_600.png


Its a trend favouring Trump, and by no means an assured victory for Hillary.

The question is, what has Trump done to improve his rating? Nothing. Some things just happen.

So to summarise, popularity polls are irrelevant. And I dont know where you found that map but Clinton would win even if Trump took all of those 'toss up' areas. I dont think its an assured thing yet, you should stay away from that website.

[Maru]

Just 2 days now...

[arista]

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[Alf]

Kicking off within the next hour.

[Maru]

Yep. Just came in from working on a fence with hubby. Now going to turn on the TV...

[_Tom_]

Also streaming live on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/i/live/778347749217406976

[Maru]

ABC had a trump and hillary dance off on dancing with the stars :P

[Marsh.]

Yep. Just came in from working on a fence with hubby. Now going to turn on the TV...

To keep the Mexicans out? :omgno:

[arista]

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[Maru]

To keep the Mexicans out? :omgno:

Well my neighbors are Mexican and the kids do like to climb over every once in a while to retrieve basketballs. But, it has more to do with the fact the pre-existing fence was a POS and falling over from two floods.

This one is going to be soooo much taller though... according to husband :laugh: He's putting in a rotboard


OMG this intro @ ABC... low-key WWE

[Maru]

So I wonder if Trump is going to come out all the sudden with super specific plans... that's usually what happens at most debates?

[arista]

Live Now

http://mol-images.s3.amazonaws.com/i/newpix/2016/09/27/01/article-3808551-38D31DDB00000578-80_964x543.jpg

90mins long

[GiRTh]

Here we go.

[arista]

Trump is Winning

A New Tax on Mexican Imports

[Marsh.]

Trump needs to go blow his nose. If he sniffs one more damn time.

[Black Dagger]

Trump has literally just mentioned Mexico and China. But yeah totally winning

[GiRTh]

Trumps finance plan will be a disaster. Hillary winning so far.

[GiRTh]

Here she hits him with the 10 trillion dollar projections.

[arista]

Trumps finance plan will be a disaster. Hillary winning so far.


The Workers of USA like it .

[GiRTh]

The Workers of USA like it .its never worked in the past and wont this time. :thumbs:

[GiRTh]

trickle down economics, supply side economics or as George HW Bush called it 'Voodoo' economic leads to boom/bust economies. Its happened so many times before and as HRC pointed out Trumps version is even harsher than before. Its would be crazy.

[arista]

Just Faint, Clinton Bitch


Make my day

[Alf]

http://assets.change.org/photos/1/rw/gc/FyrwgcecjtAMfdu-1600x900-noPad.jpg?1456443570

[GiRTh]

Trump rattled.

[arista]

Lester Holt (NBC)
Speak up you Wimp

[Marsh.]

Wow, is this shouting raving lunatic actually running for president? The world has gone mad.

[Marsh.]

Just Faint, Clinton Bitch


Make my day

:joker::joker::joker:

[arista]

Trump rattled.


Thats what the People Want

[_Tom_]

Has she had a seizure yet?

[Maru]

Twitter saying Trump is imploding/melting down

[Tom4784]

Trump's rambling, he can barely string a sentence together and he's yelling over Hillary instead of dealing with her points appropriately.

[arista]

Split screen on CNN HD

[GiRTh]

Trump got her with the 'Why not '!!! :joker:

[GiRTh]

Woah. HRC's going hard on Trump.

[Maru]

780579264634781698

[arista]

Has she had a seizure yet?


She is Smiling
Corrupt Gov.

[Tom4784]

Come thru Mrs Clinton with the desire for debt free college education :clap1:

[GiRTh]

Tax returns. Time for the popcorn.

[Alf]

Emails

[GiRTh]

E-Mails :

[Tom4784]

Lol at how Trump is falling to pieces.

[Maru]

Starting some popcorn.

[Alf]

Send her to jail

[Tom4784]

Pay your taxes, Trump.

[GiRTh]

Love when Trump tried to give details. It really isnt his forte :joker:

[GiRTh]

Pay your taxes, Trump.And a few mill to charity, the cheap bastard.

[Tom4784]

He speaks like a drunkard at closing time, he can't focus on anything specific.

[Black Dagger]

Just Faint, Clinton Bitch


Make my day

:umm2:

[the truth]

Hes paying low taxes and using the loopholes that are written by clinton and her government, so this will just go around in circles lol

[the truth]

He speaks like a drunkard at closing time, he can't focus on anything specific.

she seems like a bitter drunk imo

[Black Dagger]

He's being ruined.

[GiRTh]

Trump on the defensive. He's not attacking her enough!!!!

[Maru]

Uh oh.

[Tom4784]

Trump talking about race, this is going to be fun.

[Maru]

I'm amused how lovingly he talks about his investment portfolio

[the truth]

Trump on the defensive. He's not attacking her enough!!!!

Hes winning .......hes right on trade right on tariffs right on government running the country into infinite debt and failing to reinvest in infrastructure

She is coming over as smug arrogant and complacent on the economy....her targeting of his businessses deals is classic petty clinton. deflection, denial. dismissal

$20 trillion debt thats doubled in the last 7 years....Thats the beginning and end of the economic debate

He is correct when he says when they raise interest rates , boom , the recession is back and the stock markets fall. The market is falsely inflated , but the banks cannot get money into their accounts because there is no interest to offer savers, banks have too little cash so cant lend to investors.

[GiRTh]

Not sure they've had thousands of shootings in Chicago since Jan 1st. Thats an incredibly high number.

[Tom4784]

I like how he's spoken more about his own circumstances (whilst attacking Hillary) than the issue he's meant to be speaking about.

[the truth]

I like how he's spoken more about his own circumstances (whilst attacking Hillary) than the issue he's meant to be speaking about.
Incorrect she has spoken more about trump than the issues.
He has spoken about the economy at large and abroad, he only spoke on his own issues when directly questioned on it

[GiRTh]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-shootings-20160421-story.html

Its reached 1000 but its not thousands.

[Tom4784]

He's literally just using buzz words and incredibly vague arguments in order to appeal to the lowest common denominator. I don't understand how anyone could seriously support him, he's a joke.

[Maru]

Why is crime high in those areas... why do people turn to crime?.... maybe because the govt ignores those communities and areas in favor of fast growth/corporate greed

[GiRTh]

Hes winning .......hes right on trade right on tariffs right on government running the country into infinite debt and failing to reinvest in infrastructure

She is coming over as smug arrogant and complacent on the economy....her targeting of his businessses deals is classic petty clinton. deflection, denial. dismissal

$20 trillion debt thats doubled in the last 7 years....Thats the beginning and end of the economic debate

He is correct when he says when they raise interest rates , boom , the recession is back and the stock markets fall. The market is falsely inflated , but the banks cannot get money into their accounts because there is no interest to offer savers, banks have too little cash so cant lend to investors.No she slaughtered him on the debt and showed his plans havent worked in the past.

[Tom4784]

Not Trump giving all this promo to Law & Order, he needs better taste in TV shows.

[Maru]

Hillary playing up to the base. My ass, the only one lifting up these communities are the regular people.. not the govt. Cities ignore them because they're considered a "problem"... too much relying on law enforcement to fix our worst social problems is what put us in this situation.

[GiRTh]

Another jab.

She's thrown a few jabs while answering her own questions and Trump;'s ego cant leave the jab alone. Nice.

[Rob!]

Evening. I forgot this was on. What did I miss?

[Marsh.]

Evening. I forgot this was on. What did I miss?

"Law and order..... LAW AND ORDER!"

dun-dun

[Tom4784]

Evening. I forgot this was on. What did I miss?

Trump getting curbstomped by Hillary.

[Rob!]

I do struggle to comprehend how Donald Trump has gotten this far.

[Maru]

Double post

[Maru]

Kissing minority's ass will not save their communities, will be a bandaid of trust and extreme interest groups will swoop in and just make the corruption in those areas worse... the govt will still ignore the problem without broader accountability... going into these areas and working on the issues, taking pressure off police is the solution... relying on law enforcement is what led to overpolicing in those areas... bring them jobs and rehaul tax system to give incentive to rebuild in older communities... welfare is not a solution, it's a trapdoor.

Has to be a broad change though. Society has to be called out on it's attitude.

And yeah, violent crime is up (not sure about murders)... just read that this morning.

[the truth]

I do struggle to comprehend how Donald Trump has gotten this far.

hes hammered hilary on the economy, pointing out the disasters of nafta and ttip which she supports to take over the european economy with lower standards for a corporate takeover...Hes hammered her on the $20 trillion debt, the endless wasteful government projects, the failure to reinvest in the infrastructure. shes got petty and deflected from her failure and talked about his company instead

[GiRTh]

Down comes the hammer. Preparing for President.

[Maru]

Did someone slip Trump a Xanax? He's not screaming volume anymore

[Marsh.]

"I think Trump just criticised me for preparing for this debate and preparing to be president"

BURN :clap1:

[GiRTh]

Again he's giving details. Not his strength.

[the truth]

Kissing minority's ass will not save their communities, will be a bandaid of trust and extreme interest groups will swoop in and just make the corruption in those areas worse... the govt will still ignore the problem without broader accountability... going into these areas and working on the issues, taking pressure off police is the solution... relying on law enforcement is what led to overpolicing in those areas... bring them jobs and rehaul tax system to give incentive to rebuild in older communities... welfare is not a solution, it's a trapdoor.

Has to be a broad change though. Society has to be called out on it's attitude.

And yeah, violent crime is up (not sure about murders)... just read that this morning.

In the end hillary is responsible as she has overseen the total obliteration of industrial jobs throughout america and exported them overseas. shes simply following maggie thatchers blueprint

[Tom4784]

"I think Trump just criticised me for preparing for this debate and preparing to be president"

BURN :clap1:

Come thru Hillary :clap1:

[Rob!]

Has he mentioned her fainting at the 9/11 memorial service yet?

[GiRTh]

Nice by the mod getting him back on the subject. No doubt he'll get loads of sh*t for that.

[GiRTh]

The hammers coming down again. HRC's killing it.

[Alf]

This guy has grilled Trump on tax returns and Obama not being American, but hasn't grilled Hillary on anything yet.

Why?

[Tom4784]

This expose by Hillary.

[Rob!]

There is nothing he can shake his head at with this. Go Hilary :clap2:

[GiRTh]

This guy has grilled Trump on tax returns and Obama not being American, but hasn't grilled Hillary on anything yet.

Why?And the debt and e-mails,

[Maru]

Just about every article pre-debate I've read is about how he could win just by lying through the entire debate and his long list of lies... so predictable so far. He's re-writing history. I was glued to the screen for 2008 election and I don't remember any of what he was talking about.

[Tom4784]

Another business story.....good grief, he is so self absorbed.

[Alf]

And the debt and e-mails,It was Trump who brought up Emails, not this commentator.

[Maru]

But his investment portfolio

[the truth]

There is nothing he can shake his head at with this. Go Hilary :clap2:

33000 destroyed government emails? the moderator went straight past it, luckily trump underlined what a disgusting episode that was, she deflected from that massive cover up to talk about trumps tax affairs and the moderator did nothing, that stinks

[the truth]

remember feminists $20 trillion debt and 1 million dead iraqis hurts over 50% of women too

[Tom4784]

He does nothing but talk about himself.

[Marsh.]

remember feminists $20 trillion debt and 1 million dead iraqis hurts over 50% of women too

lAW AND ORDERRRRR!!!

[GiRTh]

33000 destroyed government emails? the moderator went straight past it, luckily trump underlined what a disgusting episode that was, she deflected from that massive cover up to talk about trumps tax affairs and the moderator did nothing, that stinksNo, he asked her to respond :shrug:

[GiRTh]

He does nothing but talk about himself.:joker:

[Marsh.]

"I have a ten year old son"

:joker:

[Rob!]

"I have a ten year old son"

:joker:

He's so good at computers :laugh2:


Not Trump's son being better at dealing with ISIS

[Maru]

He's so good at computers :laugh2:


Not Trump's son being better at dealing with ISIS

Que the Lifetime movie about the 10 year old and his uncool mom tracking down nigeria princes and serial perverts in Yahoo chatrooms using Facebook Messenger

[GiRTh]

Does he not realise that it would be illegal to 'take the oil' WTF? How can anyone think h'es winning this?

[Maru]

Does Trump even realize what she's talking about... he keeps going "hmm"

[the truth]

she is not playing the race card from the bottom of the pack ...typical perversion of political correctness

[Maru]

Does he not realise that it would be illegal to 'take the oil' WTF? How can anyone think h'es winning this?

Well he does lie better

[GiRTh]

Well he does lie betterTrue :laugh:

[Marsh.]

His blocked nose is bugging me.

He needs to blow it into his wig.

[Walter White]

Did that **** answer the question why he continued to question Obama's citizenship AFTER the birth certificate was produced? Did I miss something?

[GiRTh]

Should Lestor have corrected him on his Iraq stance? Not sure he should have TBH.

Thats gonna cause a sh*t storm IMO

[the truth]

Did that **** answer the question why he continued to question Obama's citizenship AFTER the birth certificate was produced? Did I miss something?

he didnt question if as the moderator wrongly suggested, he merely kept pointing out the fact obama had refused to produce it for so many years

[GiRTh]

Hannity never had so much publicity :joker:

[Maru]

Should Lestor have corrected him on his Iraq stance. Not sure he should have TBH.

They would be interrupting him every time he spoke probably. Not only does it eat time away from other answers, btu he will just lie out of it anyway.

[Alf]

Hillary sitting back smiling while Lester grills Trump again

[Tom4784]

Not Trump saying he has a better temperment than Hillary, this is a man that sent pictures of his fingers to someone who commented on them once.

[Marsh.]

"Let's talk about two important topics that Donald BRIEFLY touched on"

:joker: Love it.

[GiRTh]

They would be interrupting him every time he spoke probably. Not only does it eat time away from other answers, btu he will just lie out of it anyway.True. Still think alot of people will say she shouldnt have done it.

[the truth]

shes just totally failed on the putin question with a pathetic petty attack....her government allowed the cyber attacks , she then says its partly because trump suggested china or russia could be breaking down our national security intelligence...hillaary says suggesting that to the russians is going to destroy security? lol thats like a 5 year old childs response....trump says the usa has week cyber security oh lets break in......ffs grow up hilary

[Tom4784]

She's murdering Trump and we're all her witnesses.

[Rob!]

YES Hilary :clap1:

[Maru]

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[Maru]

Trump, he is OUR president.... Not HER president... ****. You don't have to agree with him, but respect our commander in chief

[Marsh.]

The shade at his response to "a tweet" :joker:

[Shaun]

RIP Trump <3

[GiRTh]

780593916294864899Trump shouting that he has the right temperament while criticising HRC temperament. :joker:

[the truth]

She's murdering Trump and we're all her witnesses.

lol hes killing her, he just nailed her with her horrific support of the illegal iraq invasion and the syrian and libyan disasters which she was directly responsible for...her response was pathetic as she denied and deflected away from the 1 million plus dead bodies

[Maru]

Can't wait to see the polls...

[GiRTh]

Evertime he says 'Believe me' I swear thats a trigger for another lie.

I like that HRC kept referencing the fact checkers. It kind of implies he's lying without actually saying it. Surprised Trump hasnt said anything about it TBH.

[the truth]

Trump shouting that he has the right temperament while criticising HRC temperament. :joker:

he didnt shout

[Rob!]

lol hes killing her, he just nailed her with her horrific support of the illegal iraq invasion and the syrian and libyan disasters which she was directly responsible for...her response was pathetic as she denied and deflected away from the 1 million plus dead bodies

Except given a single modicum of chance, under Trump's regime they'll be a lot lot more.

[GiRTh]

he didnt shoutOK growled.:joker:

[Maru]

trump shouting that he has the right temperament while criticising hrc temperament. :joker:

My response :laugh:

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[Maru]

As hilarious as this is... this is so painfully embarrassing for the US. I can't even

[Marsh.]

Every time Trump brings up how Clinton created Isis never fails to get me. :laugh2:

[Tom4784]

Sodi Arabia?

[the truth]

Except given a single modicum of chance, under Trump's regime they'll be a lot lot more.

trump is killing it...nato has finally built an anti terror division at long last...nato must go in with them
the moderator has just lied that trump supported iraq war thats a fat lie and he was not in politics and not in favour of the invasion. shocking bias here.

[Rob!]

As hilarious as this is... this is so painfully embarrassing for the US. I can't even

And they ripped us for Brexit :laugh:

[Marsh.]

Law and Order: Sodi Arabia?

[Maru]

Good comeback on her part. That's such a cheap shot

[GiRTh]

Final dropping of the hammer. Sexism. She's killed it.

[Rob!]

He's absolutely flailing

[Tom4784]

He's completely flailing and I'm living for it.

[Rob!]

Trump is more like a wet fart at the moment.

[Maru]

Trump is literally throwing **** anything at her... half of it is not even sensible comebacks

[Tom4784]

Lol at the Rosie O'Donnell bit. He's so pathetic.

[Walter White]

Trump is more like a wet fart at the moment.

Wrong. A wet fart has more charisma.

[GiRTh]

Sad.

[the truth]

Final dropping of the hammer. Sexism. She's killed it.
the only sexism is coming from her...shes already played the racist card from the bottom of the pack..he has said nothing sexist

[Marsh.]

Aww, Trump the Bigot is upset at the nasty things Clinton's campaign is saying about him.

[Rob!]

This is insane - he claims to have a GOOD temperament?

[the truth]

And they ripped us for Brexit :laugh:

trump got brexit right, she got it wrong, those are the facts

[Maru]

This isn't a final comment?...

[GiRTh]

the only sexism is coming from her...shes already played the racist card from the bottom of the pack..he has said nothing sexistToday or ever?

[Tom4784]

Is he going to answer the question any time soon?

[Shaun]

trump is killing it...nato has finally built an anti terror division at long last...nato must go in with them
the moderator has just lied that trump supported iraq war thats a fat lie and he was not in politics and not in favour of the invasion. shocking bias here.

https://soundcloud.com/buzzfeedandrew/trump-on-the-howard-stern-show-on-sept-11-2002

http://therightscoop.com/oops-trump-wrote-wmds-in-iraq-were-a-threat-a-year-before-bush-was-prez/

Consider Iraq. After each pounding from U.S . warplanes, Iraq has dusted itself off and gone right back to work developing a nuclear arsenal. Six years of tough talk and U.S. fireworks in Baghdad have done little to slow Iraq’s crash program to become a nuclear power. They’ve got missiles capable of flying nine hundred kilometers—more than enough to reach Tel Aviv. They’ve got enriched uranium. All they need is the material for nuclear fission to complete the job, and, according to the Rumsfeld report, we don’t even know for sure if they’ve laid their hands on that yet. That’s what our last aerial assault on Iraq in 1999 was about. Saddam Hussein wouldn’t let UN weapons inspectors examine certain sites where that material might be stored. The result when our bombing was over? We still don’t know what Iraq is up to or whether it has the material to build nuclear weapons. I’m no warmonger. But the fact is, if we decide a strike against Iraq is necessary, it is madness not to carry the mission to its conclusion. When we don’t, we have the worst of all worlds: Iraq remains a threat, and now has more incentive than ever to attack us.

you sure truthie?

[Marsh.]

the only sexism is coming from her...shes already played the racist card from the bottom of the pack..he has said nothing sexist

You have to be fair minded to see it.

[Alf]

What a terrible debate.

[Rob!]

trump got brexit right, she got it wrong, those are the facts

Hmm. What an interesting thing to say.

[Maru]

the only sexism is coming from her...shes already played the racist card from the bottom of the pack..he has said nothing sexist

Change your username.

[GiRTh]

Lestor's gonna get some sh*t for that but I think he did a great job. :thumbs:

[GiRTh]

Change your username.:laugh:

[Marsh.]

Not Trump's bottle blonde harem.

[Marsh.]

So sad seeing those empty headed people rallied around Trump.

[Rob!]

Trump's military of defence plucked straight from the playboy mansion?

[Marsh.]

Just Faint, Trump Bitch


Make my night

[the truth]

Hmm. What an interesting thing to say.

its the truth , maybe you arent familiar with that

[Maru]

They're saying here on local media that she rattled him... no, he rattled himself. He totally unraveled.

[the truth]

You have to be fair minded to see it.
you have to be fair minded to see the sexist against him and brnie sanders...when she interrupted him and he insisted on finishing his own sentence cinton got 1000s of her feminist friends to slander him across the net as a sexist pig...thats reverse sexism and false accusation and slander..shes a a master of that trash

[Alf]

I don't think either of them won the debate, they just proved that neither are fit to be the leader of the free World.

[Maru]

Hillary is a good candidate if you believe in her policies... the problem is, it's still just glossing and sugar coating the issues. Lots of we're gonna do all these things for minorities!... while expanding the racial schism by performing counter-racism on the rest of the population instead of unifying the nation and fixing broken communities...

I'm writing in no confidence. I'm happy with local and getting involved here. Will start focusing on local races from now on.

[Maru]

These things work (aka spread via) in soundbytes too... Hillary did give better soundbytes... Trump's comments are lots of blubbering... most of what he's blubbered he's said before so not particularly sound byte-worthy.

[the truth]

her last points were just pathetic bar room gossip trash....shes the sexist and shes spent 100s of millions of trash anti trump adverts which she tries to disassociate from

[the truth]

These things work (aka spread via) in soundbytes too... Hillary does give better soundbytes... Trump's comments are lots of blubbering... most of what he's blubbered he's said before so not particularly sound byte-worthy.
if he said blubbering about clinton, youd be screaming sexist lol such pathetic transparent hypocrisy

[GiRTh]

her last points were just pathetic bar room gossip trash....shes the sexist and shes spent 100s of millions of trash anti trump adverts which she tries to disassociate fromAnd his last words were 'She's picking on me'

[the truth]

And his last words were 'She's picking on me'

thats a lie...he said he would support clinton if she wins

[Rob!]

thats a lie...he said he would support clinton if she wins

Yeah after he had to be reminded what the question was after rambling about nothing for god knows how long.

[GiRTh]

thats a lie...he said he would support clinton if she winsAnd he called her adverts 'Not nice'. But i thought he was anti-PC? :shrug:

[Rob!]

Just Faint, Trump Bitch


Make my night

Too far imo

[the truth]

Yeah after he had to be reminded what the question was after rambling about nothing for god knows how long.

he wants to make america great again why did that upset you?
she of course failed to answer if she would support trumps government if he wins but you didnt call her out on the exact same thing lol? trump answered she didnt lol your agenda is sooo transparent

[the truth]

Too far imo

eh? you said you wanted trump shot? hypocrisy

[Rob!]

he wants to make america great again why did that upset you?
she of course failed to answer if she would support trumps government if he wins but you didnt call her out on the exact same thing lol? trump answered she didnt lol your agenda is sooo transparent

No she didn't fail to answer that at all. She said she'd respect and support the democracy. The man wants to build a massive wall to prevent people from Mexico entering the country. Why should she pretend she would support that?

[the truth]

No she didn't fail to answer that at all. She said she'd respect and support the democracy. The man wants to build a massive wall to prevent people from Mexico entering the country. Why should she pretend she would support that?

she didnt answer , she refused to say shed support trumps government, he answered, she didnt

she DOES want to build a wall lol she always has wanted to build a wall? where have you been , heres just some simple evidence for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DckY2dRFtxc

you will of course ignore this because you hate the male candidate so much

[Rob!]

https://twitter.com/thedemocrats/status/780597024051822592

[Rob!]

she didnt answer , she refused to say shed support trumps government, he answered, she didnt

she DOES want to build a wall lol she always has wanted to build a wall? where have you been , heres just some simple evidence for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DckY2dRFtxc

you will of course ignore this because you hate the male candidate so much

Sexism has got nothing to do with it, I hate the racist chauvinist as would be obvious to anybody with half a brain cell so I don't think I'm going to really get anywhere debating with you. I can only tell you that you honestly do fit the stereotype of a Trump supporter perfectly so good for you.

[GiRTh]

Poised for Trump to attack Lester Holt on twitter :joker:

[the truth]

Sexism has got nothing to do with it, I hate the racist chauvinist as would be obvious to anybody with half a brain cell so I don't think I'm going to really get anywhere debating with you. I can only tell you that you honestly do fit the stereotype of a Trump supporter perfectly so good for you.

and you as a poster who are so hate filled who has tonight advocated the assassination of trump, are trying to take the moral high ground..Your words are infinitely more sexist than mine or trumps. further more you try desperately to play the sexism card from the bottom of the pack because you have lost the debate yet again. Thankfully this thread had a little truth to bring some balance to your male hating comments

[Maru]

Flipping through cable networks... Fox news at least agrees Clinton won (I think).... said polls wont change at all and will be tight....:joker:

[Maru]

Ha--On MSNBC...this lady, a registered democrat, said.. she is voting for the conservative party and if this jackass is the one that happens to be leading the train, then so be it... hates hillary that much apparently.

[Maru]

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[GiRTh]

780607277938147328Child :facepalm:

[the truth]

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That is a lie....trump shook hands with him about 3 seconds later...watch the end here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEHPrYUcoi0

[the truth]

Child :facepalm:


That is a lie....trump shook hands with him about 3 seconds later...watch the end here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEHPrYUcoi0

[the truth]

hilarious to think she is preaching about cyber security when she couldnt even look after her own emails lol

[the truth]

the moderator was a disgrace didnt grill hilary on anything ...benghazi, the clinton foundation, the 33000 emails were barely touched on....all of which was infinitely more relevant to the job at hand than trumps business

[GiRTh]

the moderator was a disgrace didnt grill hilary on anything ...benghazi, the clinton foundation, the 33000 emails were barely touched on....all of which was infinitely more relevant to the job at hand than trumps businessI think he did a fantastic job.

Either way he couldnt win. Matt Lauer was roundly criticised for not pushing Trump enough and grilling HRC too much in the Commander in Chief interviews a few weeks ago so I think this goes somewhat toward redressing the balance. The mod wasn't responsible for Trumps poor performance, Trump was.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/08/us/politics/matt-lauer-forum.html

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:joker:

[GiRTh]

If this was any other candidate I'd be like

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But HRC is almost as unelectable.

[the truth]

I think he did a fantastic job.

Either way he couldnt win. Matt Lauer was roundly criticised for not pushing Trump enough and grilling HRC too much in the Commander in Chief interviews a few weeks ago so I think this goes somewhat toward redressing the balance. The mod wasn't responsible for Trumps poor performance Trump was.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/08/us/politics/matt-lauer-forum.html
lol no you dont he was biased and failed spectacularly to grill clinton on questions the way he grilled trump. people are attacking trump now for not attacking enough if he attacks more the feminists all scream sexist and racist...the fact is he has to attack she is the most corrupt politician since nixon and he will go after her next time big time and over ride any biased moderator

[GiRTh]

lol no you dont he was biased and failed spectacularly to grill clinton on questions the way he grilled trump. people are attacking trump now for not attacking enough if he attacks more the feminists all scream sexist and racist...the fact is he has to attack she is the most corrupt politician since nixon and he will go after her next time big time and over ride any biased moderatorCheck the vid for what was being said about Matt Lauer. I dont blame Lester Holt if he'd didn't want be called a 'disgrace to journalism'.

If Trump lies on TV and is caught thats not the mods fault and Trump could have gone to so many different things to attack HRC but as I recall didnt he once go off on a story about Rosie O'Donnell? What was that about? Trumps lack of preparation was not the mods fault. :shrug:

[the truth]

Check the vid for what was being said about Matt Lauer. I dont blame Lester Holt if he'd didn't want be called a 'disgrace to journalism'.

If Trump lies on TV and is caught thats not the mods fault and Trump could have gone to so many different things to attack HRC but as I recall didnt he once go off on a story about Rosie O'Donnell? What was that about? Trumps lack of preparation was not the mods fault. :shrug:

it was the mods fault that he didnt aim as many questions at hilary , in particular at her corruption, her dodgy doundation, her payments from corporations, her benghazi disaster, her 33000 email cover up, the list goe son and on..he chose to bring up birther yet again and trumps businesses, the man clearly had an agenda and failed to moderate fairly and impartially

[the truth]

The democrats supporters also let themselves down by screaming and hollering when the whole agreement was to shut up and allow the debate to continue without interruption

[GiRTh]

it was the mods fault that he didnt aim as many questions at hilary , in particular at her corruption, her dodgy doundation, her payments from corporations, her benghazi disaster, her 33000 email cover up, the list goe son and on..he chose to bring up birther yet again and trumps businesses, the man clearly had an agenda and failed to moderate fairly and impartially
He didnt need to, she answered them in the allotted time. He kept having to interrupt Trump as he gave us another random rambling about whatever HRC had last jabbed him about.

It was telling the way Trump tried to respond the pretty much every jab HRC aimed at him. He has the impulse control of a toddler.

[Ammi]

...I need to catch up with this../get a full vid of it...what sort of USA devilry, Maru with 2am on a UK school night...:laugh:..can you sort that out for us please....

[GiRTh]

HRC did good. The jabs started from her first question and Trumps ego couldnt stop him from responding to almost all of them. I'll let you enjoy it for yourself. :joker:

[Ammi]

..I'm guessing that it's going to be in it's full glory on YouTube so I'll look later after work, I'm quite looking forward to it..:laugh:...

[Pete.]

Hillary won!!

[bots]

I amazed myself and watched the debate live. What came through to me loud and clear was how shallow and one-dimensional Trump is. He is truly awful. I have a successful business in this or that state ... did I tell you I'm a successful business man ... blah blah blah. I think he actually believes his own story :laugh:

I mean, they are both dreadful candidates, and I may not agree with Hilary's politics, but she at least has a bit of a grasp of life. Trump is ... well, i'm speechless :laugh:

[Withano]

good, he was as useless as the media are making out.

[Samm]

Hilary is WINNING!

[bots]

the chair person is a registered republican supporter, so if he was biased, and I don't think he was, that shows how bad Trump was.

one of the most enlightening moments of the evening was when Trump declared how smart he was for avoiding paying ANY tax for years .... what a great example to set :hee:

[the truth]

the chair person is a registered republican supporter, so if he was biased, and I don't think he was, that shows how bad Trump was.

one of the most enlightening moments of the evening was when Trump declared how smart he was for avoiding paying ANY tax for years .... what a great example to set :hee:

he was merely paying the taxes the government wanted hes never been charged with any tax fraud....if the government under clinton wanted more they should have gone for more but she is in the pockets of the massive corporations so she lets huge corporations off their taxes