Swedish ad encourages citizens to accept that Islam is taking over their country

[Liberty4eva]

I never thought I would see people celebrating the destruction of their own culture. It's disgusting.

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Trump could very well be the West's last hope to stop the trend towards Islam.

[Crimson Dynamo]

wtaf is that?

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[kirklancaster]

Are you sure that these are Swedes and not fecking TURNIPS? TF we Brexited.

[Marsh.]

You do realise no culture on this planet just happened and existed out of nothing?

Nothing in that advert is telling them to accept Islam and allow it to take over but learn to be multicultural and accepting of other people and their differences.

All our nations are an amalgamation of different cultures and ethnicities as it is anyway.

[Crimson Dynamo]

You do realise no culture on this planet just happened and existed out of nothing?

Nothing in that advert is telling them to accept Islam and allow it to take over but learn to be multicultural and accepting of other people and their differences.

All our nations are an amalgamation of different cultures and ethnicities as it is anyway.

No country shoudl accept people who think fictitious gods exist and that their one is the bestest and that to leave their cult you must die, who lie to children and subjugate women

Yes come and settle if you have skills but if you want to follow your Stupid cult? F OFF

[Vicky.]

What is this an advert for?

Just a general TV ad or part of some campaign or something?

Doesn't look too b ad to me either way tbh, its not saying Islam is taking over at all.

[MB.]

No country shoudl accept people who think fictitious gods exist

And yet Sweden's still a predominantly Christian country? :think:

[Crimson Dynamo]

And yet Sweden's still a predominantly Christian country? :think:

yes its about as Christian as we are...

:idc:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Sweden

[Northern Monkey]

That is actually quite sinister.No wonder the far right are growing so rapidly.Either the EU leaders are rolling over and giving in to the destruction of western civilisation or it's being done deliberately.Whichever it is,It is quite a chilling thought.
I mean the numbers that are coming aren't getting any lower or even staying at a steady rate.They're actually increasing by the year.Hopefully atleast Britain can now get our **** together and try and regain some control.The EU countries will be in chaos when they really do reach breaking point.There will be protests/riots eventually until they can get their own Swexit/Grexit/Frexit/Spexit/Pexit/Czexit/Bexit/Hexit etc etc.
I doubt the Swedes will just lay down and take it like this ad is trying to suggest they do.

[Marsh.]

No country shoudl accept people who think fictitious gods exist and that their one is the bestest and that to leave their cult you must die, who lie to children and subjugate women

Yes come and settle if you have skills but if you want to follow your Stupid cult? F OFF

Where in that video is it asking people to accept other people's beliefs as their own or follow their religion?

[MB.]

yes its about as Christian as we are...

:idc:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Sweden

As of 2015, 63.3% of Swedish citizens are members of the Church of Sweden

63% of Swedes are Christian. 32% are either a different religion or non-religious. A whopping 5% are Muslim. Do you need a definition of what "predominantly" means? :think:

[Crimson Dynamo]

63% of Swedes are Christian. 32% are either a different religion or non-religious. A whopping 5% are Muslim. Do you need a definition of what "predominantly" means? :think:

You mistake census data for being an actual religious person and believing in gods


Go find how many attend a church weekly or say that they believe in a god


Its the same as the UK, people tick a box and say christian but 4% go to Church and are actual Christians

Christianity on on its arse in Western Europe thankfully

[Crimson Dynamo]

Where in that video is it asking people to accept other people's beliefs as their own or follow their religion?

I did not say that, I am saying that they should accept noone who belongs to a cult or wishes to build building to gather to worship made up dieties like loony tunes

Like we should here too

[Marsh.]

I did not say that, I am saying that they should accept noone who belongs to a cult or wishes to build building to gather to worship made up dieties like loony tunes

Like we should here too

Yes, because there are no religious people in this country or in Sweden.

That's a trope of those nasty weird subhumans from the East. :worry:

[bots]

this comes across to me as a bit of a spoof. Sweden have always been amongst the most progressive in just about every aspect of their culture. There really isn't any need for their forced education

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes, because there are no religious people in this country or in Sweden.

That's a trope of those nasty weird subhumans from the East. :worry:

Sweden 'least religious' nation in Western world


Almost eight out of ten Swedes are either "not religious" or "convinced atheists", according to a new global study that concludes the Nordic nation is the least religious in the West.

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http://www.thelocal.se/20150413/swedes-least-religious-in-western-world

[lewis111]

That was an ad about helping people in dire need of support and about the country coming together and spreading love

And you managed to make out like it was people allowing Islam to run the country?? Where did you get that from

If Sweedish people want to support people who have lost their homes, belongings, family then why shouldn't they let them

Islambophic people can piss off somewhere else

[Marsh.]

Sweden 'least religious' nation in Western world


Almost eight out of ten Swedes are either "not religious" or "convinced atheists", according to a new global study that concludes the Nordic nation is the least religious in the West.

:clap1:

http://www.thelocal.se/20150413/swedes-least-religious-in-western-world

So, facts and figures are wrong about whose religious, but facts and figures are fine for who isn't?

Ok.

[Cherie]

It's an ad promoting integration, if you see something else I can't help you

[Crimson Dynamo]

So, facts and figures are wrong about whose religious, but facts and figures are fine for who isn't?

Ok.

incorrect but using census data box ticking as evidence that a nation is religious is about 30 years old and has been myth busted long long ago


Its the same as people like David Cameron telling us the UK is a Christian country and all ther DM readers agreeing yet not one of them owns and bible, goes to church or could tell you 2 books in the NT

its bollocks

[Marsh.]

incorrect but using census data box ticking as evidence that a nation is religious is about 30 years old and has been myth busted long long ago


Its the same as people like David Cameron telling us the UK is a Christian country and all ther DM readers agreeing yet not one of them owns and bible, goes to church or could tell you 2 books in the NT

its bollocks

But ticking the box saying non-religious obviously holds more factual data.

Also, we're straying from the topic. You've made it about Islam and it (and the video) isn't even about that.

[ArgyESC]

To be honest, my fear is not immigrants themselves, my fear is that if these people take over civilized countries like Sweden, they will easily spread their narrow-minded attitudes and Europe will turn into Saudi Arabia.

[Liberty4eva]

It's an ad promoting integration, if you see something else I can't help you

I see it promoting cultural suicide. And you are correct that there is nothing you can say to change my mind.

[Northern Monkey]

It's the Swedish government admitting that the EU either can't or refuses to deal with the problem.'Accept your fate,Europe's fecked and we aren't doing anything to solve it'.I suspect this ad will have the exact opposite effect to the one which it is intended and get more people voting in a different party who will get them out of the EU.

[Marsh.]

To be honest, my fear is not immigrants themselves, my fear is that if these people take over civilized countries like Sweden, they will easily spread their narrow-minded attitudes and Europe will turn into Saudi Arabia.

That fear has a name.... bigotry.

[Marsh.]

I see it promoting cultural suicide. And you are correct that there is nothing you can say to change my mind.

What, and the culture we call "British culture" isn't already an amalgamation of butchered cultures of centuries gone by?

[ArgyESC]

That fear has a name.... bigotry.

Not really. I don't have any problem with those people but I do have one with their attitudes. I wouldn't like to see a Europe where women are not even allowed to drive or where being gay is a crime and is punished with execution.

[Marsh.]

Not really. I don't have any problem with those people but I do have one with their attitudes. I wouldn't like to see a Europe where women are not even allowed to drive or where being gay is a crime and is punished with execution.

So you obviously do have a problem with those people. And your bigotry is spiralling to the point that your exaggerating that helping the refugees will result in us becoming Syria.

[Northern Monkey]

What, and the culture we call "British culture" isn't already an amalgamation of butchered cultures of centuries gone by?

Same as anywhere else but most countries more or less stabilised and kept managable levels of immigration whilst retaining the cultures that they'd created.What's happening now is far from stability and it's only getting worse.It is a crisis and it is'nt being dealt with.Forcing together two opposing ideologies in huge numbers is a recipe for massive instability in the region it is being imposed upon.Can you really see this having a happy ending unless Europe manages to get a grip of the situation?That ad is basically admitting defeat.

[ArgyESC]

So you obviously do have a problem with those people. And your bigotry is spiralling to the point that your exaggerating that helping the refugees will result in us becoming Syria.

Well, of course we should help the refugees. But this doesn't mean we should let them take over all European countries.

And I'm not exaggerating at all. Do you know those people have many more children than Europeans? This means that if they spread all over Europe they could easily turn it into Syria.

[Marsh.]

Well, of course we should help the refugees. But this doesn't mean we should let them take over all European countries.

And I'm not exaggerating at all. Do you know those people have many more children than Europeans? This means that if they spread all over Europe they could easily turn it into Syria.

We are still here and still easily overpopulating our own countries all by ourselves. So the west becoming extinct is an exaggeration.

[Firewire]

Well, of course we should help the refugees. But this doesn't mean we should let them take over all European countries.

And I'm not exaggerating at all. Do you know those people have many more children than Europeans? This means that if they spread all over Europe they could easily turn it into Syria.

Even if all 22.8 million citizens of Syria fled to the EU, it wouldn't even take up 3% of the entire population.

The EU turning "into Syria" isn't really a worry

[Crimson Dynamo]

Marsh wanting St Helens to be actual Syria

what kind of twisted madness...?

[Marsh.]

Marsh wanting St Helens to be actual Syria

what kind of twisted madness...?

There's a few around here who could do with a veil over their face I'm not gonna lie.

[Crimson Dynamo]

There's a few around here who could do with a veil over their face I'm not gonna lie.

:joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

and a few that got stoned to death

[Jessica.]

Anyone who sees that advert as malicious is as backwards as a religious extremist tbh, you hate everyone who is not like you, extremists hate everyone who is not like them, you're all the same. Backwards.

I think the ad is nice, don't see anything wrong with it, it doesn't tell anyone to believe in anything.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Anyone who sees that advert as malicious is as backwards as a religious extremist tbh, you hate everyone who is not like you, extremists hate everyone who is not like them, you're all the same. Backwards.

I think the ad is nice, don't see anything wrong with it, it doesn't tell anyone to believe in anything.


do you not think it is unrealistic liberal mumbo jumbo that bears zero relation to real life?

Its kind of like religion, it all sounds so lovely but its not actually about humans on this planet.


"Love your enemy like your self"

of f uck off you bearded twat"

:facepalm:

[bots]

do you not think it is unrealistic liberal mumbo jumbo that bears zero relation to real life?

Its kind of like religion, it all sounds so lovely but its not actually about humans on this planet.


"Love your enemy like your self"

of f uck off you bearded twat"

:facepalm:

Timothy .... language!

I don't see how anyone can take that advert seriously, it can't be aimed at grownups with a brain.

[Cherie]

do you not think it is unrealistic liberal mumbo jumbo that bears zero relation to real life?

Its kind of like religion, it all sounds so lovely but its not actually about humans on this planet.


"Love your enemy like your self"

of f uck off you bearded twat"

:facepalm:

The video isn't saying anything of the sort, you are reading all sorts into it, probably because it closes with a woman in a hijab :idc:

[Crimson Dynamo]

The video isn't saying anything of the sort, you are reading all sorts into it, probably because it closes with a woman in a hijab :idc:

yes, I know a lot of women in the west who are clamouring to wear them....

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[Jamie89]

I never thought I would see people celebrating the destruction of their own culture. It's disgusting.

Trump could very well be the West's last hope to stop the trend towards Islam.

It's about embracing culture not destroying it. Trump probably is the last 'hope' in standing against that.

[ArgyESC]

It's about embracing culture not destroying it. Trump probably is the last 'hope' in standing against that.

I agree on that.

[Liberty4eva]

For those who think the ad is just about tolerance, here's another recent ad encouraging Europeans (this time German) to embrace Islam. I don't think it will open many eyes but here's hoping.

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[Vicky.]

OK that one is a bit weird, and the 'show tolerance' by wearing something thats generally used to oppress women? No thanks :laugh:

[Marsh.]

For those who think the ad is just about tolerance, here's another recent ad encouraging Europeans (this time German) to embrace Islam. I don't think it will open many eyes but here's hoping.

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That's a completely different ad in a different country so you're starting a different topic entirely. The ads are clearly not the same.

[Liberty4eva]

That's a completely different ad in a different country so you're starting a different topic entirely. The ads are clearly not the same.

The intention of the ads is clearly the same. Sigh, I feel like I am trying to convince children that Santa isn't real.

[Tom4784]

Pray tell, how exactly are Muslims meant to 'take over?' any country that's predominantly white and non-religious? Why would they want to do it in the first place?

Silly people who actually believe that we could end up like the middle east rarely have an answer because it's an illogical fear.

The only ways in which you can take a democratic country and turn it into dictatorship is by force, through politics. IS or any other terrorist organisation doesn't have the means to take a country by force so that's completely off the table.

The political method requires enough people with an extreme mindset to be in positions of power as well have a majority of voters to vote for the measures that would change a country at it's core. It would never happen because anyone with brown skin is put under a microscope in the media and there would never be a majority to vote it in.

There will always be more non-Muslims than Muslims in the west and the people with extreme views who would want things like Shariah Law form a tiny part of the Muslim community. Taking over through generations of integration is pretty much an impossibility since it relies on everyone who is not a Muslim to stop breeding.

This whole 'Muslims taking over business' is all rather stupid and is motivated by bigotry and fear.

There's nothing really wrong with that add, it promotes multiculturalism which is only a problem for the bigots.

[empire]

it was the left-wing government that enforced or bullied the people into accepting this policy, most swedes do not trust the government or most of the parties who run the country, and many don't want another religion or culture to dictate in how they should run their life, I mean the elections in germany, did not suprise me one bit, with the rise of the AFD and the huge gains they made this year, and knocking merkel's party to third place, in her own backyard, I can see the swedish democrats winning the next election, and I won't be shocked by it,

[Marsh.]

The intention of the ads is clearly the same. Sigh, I feel like I am trying to convince children that Santa isn't real.

Wow, and yet people are calling people from the east crazy.

[Rob!]

I don't know whether to be amused or disgusted that you seem to be comparing all Muslims and people from Islam to Daleks. They're not going to different countries to racially cleanse the land. 95% of refugees at least are trying to make a better life for themselves. I would challenge you to live in the conditions they have had to and still have to and see if you blame them for trying to escape and improve their lives. There is a small percentage of very dangerous people out there that are trying to cause terror, promote hatred and murder innocent people. Incidentally there was another group of people who did that who called themselves christians. They wore things over their faces too so I assume all christians must be members of the KKK. What a terrifying thought.

[Rob!]

And incidentally, both those adverts are trying to encourage tolarence. That could not be clearer.

[Ammi]

...surely cultures are there to be shared, not owned.../it seems like a positive ad and a positive message../lovely - Sweden 12 points..:love:...

[MTVN]

I don't see much wrong with the ad either, although it is quite finger jabbing, but for those attacking the government for it its worth pointing out that the ad was put out by an independent NGO and has nothing to do with the Swedish government

[Livia]

The ad says this to me: Your country and your culture is going to change forever. Get used to it. We know you didn't vote for this, no one asked you if this is what you wanted, but this is what you've got because a minority of people decided it... so get on with it. Don't worry that Germany, an advocate of bringing everyone in is now building fences to keep them out. Oh, and if you speak out against it, you're a racist and a xenophobe - because we say you are.

[Northern Monkey]

The ad says this to me: Your country and your culture is going to change forever. Get used to it. We know you didn't vote for this, no one asked you if this is what you wanted, but this is what you've got because a minority of people decided it... so get on with it. Don't worry that Germany, an advocate of bringing everyone in is now building fences to keep them out. Oh, and if you speak out against it, you're a racist and a xenophobe - because we say you are.

Could'nt have put it better:thumbs:

[Tom4784]

Culture is an evolving thing, each generation (with or without inside influence) brings change.

Sweden isn't going to change dramatically just because of immigration. It's nothing but an illogical fear. Again, it's just plain silly because all these doomsayers that act like we're all doomed to become Syria always fail to consider the vast number of non-muslims in each western country. What happens to these hundreds of millions of people in this doomed future? They won't vote for things like Shariah Law. Military or political coups are an impossibility due to the fact that extremists simply wouldn't have the numbers required in positions of power to make a difference plus a military coup would fall on it's arse simply because there isn't a huge muslim presence in most western armies, never mind an extreme presence.

Finally, why would most Muslims WANT the west to become Syria 2.0? Lots of immigrants want to escape extremism so it's silly to assume they want to set up shop in Europe in order to be ruled over by extremists once again. Muslims, like most people, enjoy their freedoms. To suggest that a large enough part of the Muslim population in any western country wants things like Shariah Law in effect is just plain unrealistic.

It's just a silly fear brought on by prejudice. There's no realistic way in which Islamic extremism can overtake a western country and none of the people who think it's a possibility will ever offer up a way in which it could.

[bots]

Culture is an evolving thing, each generation (with or without inside influence) brings change.

Sweden isn't going to change dramatically just because of immigration. It's nothing but an illogical fear. Again, it's just plain silly because all these doomsayers that act like we're all doomed to become Syria always fail to consider the vast number of non-muslims in each western country. What happens to these hundreds of millions of people in this doomed future? They won't vote for things like Shariah Law. Military or political coups are an impossibility due to the fact that extremists simply wouldn't have the numbers required in positions of power to make a difference plus a military coup would fall on it's arse simply because there isn't a huge muslim presence in most western armies, never mind an extreme presence.

Finally, why would most Muslims WANT the west to become Syria 2.0? Lots of immigrants want to escape extremism so it's silly to assume they want to set up shop in Europe in order to be ruled over by extremists once again. Muslims, like most people, enjoy their freedoms. To suggest that a large enough part of the Muslim population in any western country wants things like Shariah Law in effect is just plain unrealistic.

It's just a silly fear brought on by prejudice. There's no realistic way in which Islamic extremism can overtake a western country and none of the people who think it's a possibility will ever offer up a way in which it could.

while you are quite right in what you say. The video is put over in a very 1984 ish way, where there is to be no debate, people must accept it, because that's how its going to be. So one could argue that its but the first in a series of videos directing how people will hence forth behave.

I can't take the video seriously. It has no place in a democracy.

[Tom4784]

while you are quite right in what you say. The video is put over in a very 1984 ish way, where there is to be no debate, people must accept it, because that's how its going to be. So one could argue that its but the first in a series of videos directing how people will hence forth behave.

I can't take the video seriously. It has no place in a democracy.

At the end of the day, it's just an ad and not even one from a source with any sway over anything. I have no issue with it but it's ultimately not going to change hearts or minds so it's pointless to take it seriously.

[Livia]

I don't see the ad referring directly to Syria. Refugees are not only from Syria. The majority I would say are from North Africa. And yes, Culture evolves... but it evolves gradually. In the last 20 years European countries have changes drastically, and the Far Right have risen, like it always does when people force their will on others. No one asked the people of any given country whether they want to allow their own culture to take a back seat while we all celebrate diversity. And by diversity, they mean, Islam.

[Crimson Dynamo]

yes its all working out so well in Germany, its like a walking advert for that advert


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[y.winter]

Good luck to them, they'll need it.
Culture suicide in the name of PC.

[VanessaFeltz.]

DONT let islam spread. It is the biggest disease in the world. They always play the victim role, they ****ed up too many countries and now they want europe gone. If you think you are doing something good by tolerating their ****, you are not doing a good thing. They are vicious and they wont care about anybody, we tolerated this radical islam here in turkey now they took over the country and they are kicking young girls because of their dressing and they dont even get arrested.

This is time to remove the sickness they created on the earth and west countries DONT realise how big of a threat they are, ISIS needs to be removed and countries like saudi arabia and iran should be rescued. Women, LGBT, people who are not muslim etc are BEGGING for help there and we are still tolerating their **** by saying "oh but multicul-" like no.

[Tom4784]

I don't see the ad referring directly to Syria. Refugees are not only from Syria. The majority I would say are from North Africa. And yes, Culture evolves... but it evolves gradually. In the last 20 years European countries have changes drastically, and the Far Right have risen, like it always does when people force their will on others. No one asked the people of any given country whether they want to allow their own culture to take a back seat while we all celebrate diversity. And by diversity, they mean, Islam.

It's not like the refugee crisis is a result of the events in Syria or the Middle East or anything...

The far right have risen because it happens every few years, the self entitled majority act like they've been done wrong because they secretly wish to be oppressed and they support stupid short sighted notions like Brexit, groups like UKIP and people like Donald Trump. Those kinds of people just can't handle the fact that they aren't center of the ****ing universe. Nobody is forcing anything on those kinds of people, they just can't stand anything that doesn't fit their own narrow view point.

Hell when you think about it, the UK has always been multicultural, to act like diversity and culture are mutually exclusive is just plain silly because the UK is proof that it isn't as our national identity is a mix of various cultures and it's been that way since the days we lived in huts.

[empire]

allowing millions of refugees into europe, will cause the collapse of western civilization, and we will be living in the standards of the dark ages, and we will act like savages living of the corpse of a dying world, all because these politicians who just sit there and do nothing but ignore the demands of the people who did not want these people to arrive in their countries, same thing with the terrorism, they won't fight it, they will just give in to them,

[Withano]

I mean.. I cba to research this but I'm sure it was made by the Swedish equivalent to UKIP Or Britain First or something and I'm sure the population are outraged too.. But cba to research intoit