Sexism in modern tv advertising ignored by the media

[the truth]

I just watched the misandrist male bashing bonmarche advert where women are hitting men and mocking them and no one bats an eyelide https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS6u4NPFI2Q came across just a few of 1000s of male bashing adverts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S62sl-qWEqo....the general theme is all men are morons, incapable, selfish, lazy, greedy, incapable, dumb , ignorant stupid idiots and all women are perfect and betetr at everything and of course thats not sexist at all?


If it was the other way around the adverts would be pulled down the company fined, politicians would be debating it and feminists would be up in arms..What a disgraceful bigoted ,male bashing culture we now live in, no doubt it must destroy the confidence of young boys watching..But who cares about them eh? they fall ever further behind in schools and educattion and young men earn way less than young women on average and of course male suicides are 4 times the rate and womens mental health gets over 10 times as much money spent on it too..The double standards are appalling and this proves yet again feminists do not want equality they want to live by different sets of rules which put womens rights as far more important than mens

[Smithy]

general theme is all men are morons, incapable, selfish, lazy, greedy, incapable, dumb , ignorant stupid idiots and all women are perfect and betetr at everything and of course thats not sexist at all?


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Own the Day’ is all about empowering women and inspiring confidence,

disgusting sexism

[Crimson Dynamo]

:clap1: at the Truth for exposing this shame in advertising

[ArgyESC]

Are you kidding me? You are talking about "discrimination against men" while unfortunately, we live in a society where women are considered inferior and have many less opportunities in every single sector? Please stop it, it's ridiculous. This "sexism against males thing" doesn't even exist. You've made it up.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Are you kidding me? You are talking about "discrimination against men" while unfortunately, we live in a society where women are considered inferior and have many less opportunities in every single sector? Please stop it, it's ridiculous. This "sexism against males thing" doesn't even exist. You've made it up.

we have a woman PM

what on earth are you on about?

[ArgyESC]

we have a woman PM

what on earth are you on about?

Please speak clearly, I can't understand what you are trying to say. We are not all native English speakers here, you know.

[armand.kay]

Are you kidding me? You are talking about "discrimination against men" while unfortunately, we live in a society where women are considered inferior and have many less opportunities in every single sector? Please stop it, it's ridiculous. This "sexism against males thing" doesn't even exist. You've made it up.

While this tread is a bit of a reach... sexism has negative effects both men and women and just because men's issues are not talked about doesn't mean they don't exist.

[Mokka]

Yes....I am sure LT and the truth agree...that product advertising, marketing and labeling should all remain gender neutral.... and gender bias either way should end

[bots]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

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1960s

this is 2016

[ArgyESC]

1960s

this is 2016

... and there are still many many many misogynists.

I have seen YouTube comments like "Women should just cook and do the housework. The most they can do is give blowjobs, they can't do anything better."

This type of comments get posted nowadays. Yes, that's right. In 2016.

[Shaun]

these adverts have really challenged my security as a self-identified male, thanks for bringing it up

The BonMarche one is really stupid though.

[the truth]

Own the Day’ is all about empowering women and inspiring confidence,

disgusting sexism

by violently attacking men?

[the truth]

Are you kidding me? You are talking about "discrimination against men" while unfortunately, we live in a society where women are considered inferior and have many less opportunities in every single sector? Please stop it, it's ridiculous. This "sexism against males thing" doesn't even exist. You've made it up.

Yes I am 100% deadly serious, men are more discriminated against in british society than women. Women get 10 times more money spent on their health, men commit suicide at 4 times the rate, men die younger by 5 years across the entire western world, almost 50% of men grow up fatherless, fathers lose custody in over 80% of divorce cases, and over 80% lose their homes too, boys are light years behind girls at every level of education and women under 30 earn considerably more on average than men...This casual misandry such as this advert actually advocates violence against men. More mothers than fathers are violently abusive to their children. This is simply not reported onn mainstream news anymore because the rise of fascist feminism which basically disables all free speech that involves criticizing the fmeinist agenda.

[Northern Monkey]

I agree with the Truth.If we are going to allow violence against men in advertising then we need more violence against women too.Or better still no violence against anyone.There's a novel idea

[the truth]

I agree with the Truth.If we are going to allow violence against men in advertising then we need more violence against women too.Or better still no violence against anyone.There's a novel idea

no violence against anyone, amen

[Vicky.]

I agree with the OP. The violence ad especially is horrific. You speak of feminists though...getting ads banned and such. Can I ask one thing? Why do you expect feminists (who are mainly about womens rights) to stand up for men? In theory I agree that fighting for equality in general is the way forward, but surely there should be men standing up for themselves rather than expecting women to do it...if that makes sense? Why is there no male' equivalent of feminists? You could maybe start off such a movement, given your dedication to pointing out how males are disadvantaged?

[Shaun]

You're looking for the "Meninist" movement, Vicky, and it's a desperately sad bunch of morons.

[Vicky.]

You're looking for the "Meninist" movement, Vicky, and it's a desperately sad bunch of morons.

Oh it does exist? Have never heard of them. Clearly don't work as hard as feminists do on womens issues then?

[Marsh.]

I agree with the OP. The violence ad especially is horrific. You speak of feminists though...getting ads banned and such. Can I ask one thing? Why do you expect feminists (who are mainly about womens rights) to stand up for men? In theory I agree that fighting for equality in general is the way forward, but surely there should be men standing up for themselves rather than expecting women to do it...if that makes sense? Why is there no male' equivalent of feminists? You could maybe start off such a movement, given your dedication to pointing out how males are disadvantaged?

"Feminists" are about gender equality.

[Firewire]

No because "meninism" is a farce. I'm sure the truth sees himself as one.

[Marsh.]

The way the OP worded it I expected a wife to be beating her husband within an inch of his life.

The Bonmarche ad is bloody awful but "violence against men" please. If you want to be taken seriously try finding some actual examples instead of this nitpicking crap.

And the second example is stereotypical to both sexes. The man burping, lazy and childish. The woman a harridan, constantly cleaning and hard done by. It works both ways.

Stop trying to make "Middle Class White Straight Male Lives Matter" happen.

[Vicky.]

"Feminists" are about gender equality.

Maybe. I do feel feminists would fight a hell of a lot harder for something that effects women though. But apparently these days women are equal, if not moreso than poor men?

I shall remember this the next time some loser pinches my arse just because I happen to be wearing tight trousers..or assumes I am dumb because I do not possess a penis. Or talks over me. And so on. I should feel lucky I guess.

[the truth]

I agree with the OP. The violence ad especially is horrific. You speak of feminists though...getting ads banned and such. Can I ask one thing? Why do you expect feminists (who are mainly about womens rights) to stand up for men? In theory I agree that fighting for equality in general is the way forward, but surely there should be men standing up for themselves rather than expecting women to do it...if that makes sense? Why is there no male' equivalent of feminists? You could maybe start off such a movement, given your dedication to pointing out how males are disadvantaged?

men arent allowed to speak on these matters simple. if they do they lose their jobs and get smeared and and slandered. The culture is now obscenely biased towards women

[the truth]

Maybe. I do feel feminists would fight a hell of a lot harder for something that effects women though. But apparently these days women are equal, if not moreso than poor men?

I shall remember this the next time some loser pinches my arse just because I happen to be wearing tight trousers..or assumes I am dumb because I do not possess a penis. Or talks over me. And so on. I should feel lucky I guess.

are you really saying only men talk over women and never the other way around? are you seriously saying if a man touches you , you dont have the legal right to report it to the police and get him arrested?

[Marsh.]

men arent allowed to speak on these matters simple. if they do they lose their jobs and get smeared and and slandered. The culture is now obscenely biased towards women

Can you provide an example of a man speaking out against sexism and losing his job?

[the truth]

Despite what you have been told, in the western world today almost all legal and lethal sexual discrimination is against men.
Men are 97% of combat fatalities.
Men pay 97% of Alimony
Men make 94% of work suicides.
Men make up 93% of work fatalities.
Men make up 81% of all war deaths.
Men lose custody in 84% of divorces.
80% of all suicides are men.
77% of homicide victims are men.
89% of men will be the victim of at least one violent crime.
Men are over twice as victimised by strangers as women.
Men are 165% more likely to be convicted than women.
Men get 63% longer sentences than women for the same crime.
Court bias against men is at least 6 times bigger than racial bias.
Males are discriminated against in school and University.
Boys face vastly more corporal punishment than girls.
60-80% of the homeless are men.
Women's Cancers receive 15 times more funding than men's
At least 10% of fathers are victims of paternity fraud.
One third of all fathers in the USA have lost custody of children, most are expected to pay for this.
40-70% of domestic violence is against men however less than 1% of domestic violence shelter spaces are for men.

[Marsh.]

So that's a no then? :hee:

[Jack_]

I agree with the OP. The violence ad especially is horrific. You speak of feminists though...getting ads banned and such. Can I ask one thing? Why do you expect feminists (who are mainly about womens rights) to stand up for men? In theory I agree that fighting for equality in general is the way forward, but surely there should be men standing up for themselves rather than expecting women to do it...if that makes sense? Why is there no male' equivalent of feminists? You could maybe start off such a movement, given your dedication to pointing out how males are disadvantaged?

Genuine feminists (i.e. liberal feminists and not radical ones, like most seem to assume all feminists are these days) support, fight and believe in the emancipation of women to achieve equality with men, and vice versa. It isn't about women surpassing men at all costs as some seem to believe, but more about bringing genuine equality to both sexes. This would thus - and does- actually include supporting issues which disproportionally affect men.

The OP is actually correct. There are very real issues that affect men more than women and they do need addressing, and in fact a lot of them stem from the socially constructed gender roles society has created (oh btw that reminds me, sorry I haven't got round to reading that link yet but I've been busy with moving back to uni - shall do it soon). That said, the truth seems to believe that discrimination and societal issues are a competition and exist in isolation of each other when that isn't the case at all (some reading on intersectionality would be useful). There are problems affecting men, women, homosexual, bisexual, heterosexual, disabled people, etc etc to varying degrees - and they all need addressing.

[the truth]

http://freedomdaily.com/sergeant-major-expects-to-get-fired-after-speaking-out-on-women-in-combat/

[the truth]

THE REAL MONEY GAP.
Men earn 61.5% of all income but only account for 25% of domestic spending. Men only spend 40% of what they earn after tax. In contrast women make up 38.5% of all income but control 75% of domestic spending, women on average spend 90%

[the truth]

TAX & HEALTHCARE DISCRIMINATION
Men pay over 70% of income tax but the vast majority of public spending is on services for women. There is more money spent on breast cancer than lung cancer and prostate cancer combined, despite the fact that lung cancer alone has 3-4 times more fatalities than breast cancer. A man's chance of getting cancer is 44% and 23% of men will die from cancer, 38% of women get cancer and 19% die. Yet there is vastly more money spent on cancer for women, this is lethal discrimination. Women pay 60% less tax despite spending 300% more in domestic spending than men. Women also consume two third of public spending, there are 3 times the amount of gender specific health services for women than men despite the fact that for equal increases in health spending a man's life expectancy rate increases nearly twice as much as a woman's.

[the truth]

DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
There are hundreds of surveys which shows women are as violent if not more violent than men in domestic violence cases. Men get arrested in 85% of all arrests but its estimated that Women are the perpetrators in most Domestic Violence cases. Most reciprocal violence is started by women and 70% of non reciprocal violence is perpetrated by women. Women however only get arrested in 15% of all DV arrests. This example of 572 different studies covering 371,600 people demonstrate that women are as physically aggressive, or more aggressive, than men in their relationships with their spouses or male partners. http://www.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm
More men than women were victims of intimate partner physical violence and over 40% of severe physical violence was directed at men. http://www.batteredmen.com/NISVS.htm
Despite this though,99.3% of DV shelter spaces are for women and even men who report violence against them by women are arrested far more often than the woman who is attacking them

[Vicky.]

THE REAL MONEY GAP.
Men earn 61.5% of all income but only account for 25% of domestic spending. Men only spend 40% of what they earn after tax. In contrast women make up 38.5% of all income but control 75% of domestic spending, women on average spend 90%

Is the obvious answer to this not...men more often work while women stay home with the kids and run the household...thus take care of bills and shopping and such? In MOST cases. That also accounts for in divorce proceedings women getting (more often than not) residency while men have visitation rights.

I may well be missing something though

[Marsh.]

THE REAL MONEY GAP.
Men earn 61.5% of all income but only account for 25% of domestic spending. Men only spend 40% of what they earn after tax. In contrast women make up 38.5% of all income but control 75% of domestic spending, women on average spend 90%

You realise domestic spending means what is spent on the household/for the family? So it's not women going spending men's money on shoes. But her still having the responsibility to go and get the food in, pay the bills for the family including the men.

Think about things.

[Vicky.]

I disagree with all forms of violence. However the DV violence stats you quote seem to miss out that

Domestic abuse: Will affect 1 in 4 women and 1 in 6 men in their lifetime. Leads to, on average, two women being murdered each week and 30 men per year.

And again, womens refuges and such are set up by women for women. There is nothing stopping people opening mens DV refuges? Also do your percentages include hostels that say they are primarily for women, but do accept men? We have a local place that is called a 'womens refuge' but accept anyone who is a victim of DV...just wodnering if this would be classed under only female or not?

I find the percentages astronomically high though for violence against men if those are correct. However the 2 per week v 30 per year kind of says...when men are violent the woman comes off a lot worse off. Not that that makes any of it any better/worse though

Side note, unless ONS have released new figures, seems your stats are wrong? https://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/feb/12/14-million-women-suffered-domestic-abuse-last-year-ons-figures-show

Still a ridiculously high amount of DV in general though. And it is surprising that so much of it is against men.

[Vicky.]

are you really saying only men talk over women and never the other way around? are you seriously saying if a man touches you , you dont have the legal right to report it to the police and get him arrested?LOL yeah, I would be taken really seriously for reporting a butt pinch to the police? :laugh: And no, of course I am not saying only men talk over women and never the other way around...but it happens more (ina professional environment) that men speak over women, and men are more listened to than women simply for being men. About technical stuff women can never know apparently as they are sweet little flowers that should be in the kitchen, not working in a 'mans environment'. Hell, last year I was in the apple shop and saw some guy umming and ahhing about some ridiculously pricey tablet he was wanting and asked for help, a woman came over and he said he wanted someone who 'actually knows what they are talking about' and beckoned a bloke over, who told the guy that the woman was actually best qualified and would be better to answer. That was quite funny to witness..and its definitely not the only instance of this kind of thing I have seen :p

Genuine feminists (i.e. liberal feminists and not radical ones, like most seem to assume all feminists are these days) support, fight and believe in the emancipation of women to achieve equality with men, and vice versa. It isn't about women surpassing men at all costs as some seem to believe, but more about bringing genuine equality to both sexes. This would thus - and does- actually include supporting issues which disproportionally affect men.

The OP is actually correct. There are very real issues that affect men more than women and they do need addressing, and in fact a lot of them stem from the socially constructed gender roles society has created (oh btw that reminds me, sorry I haven't got round to reading that link yet but I've been busy with moving back to uni - shall do it soon). That said, the truth seems to believe that discrimination and societal issues are a competition and exist in isolation of each other when that isn't the case at all (some reading on intersectionality would be useful). There are problems affecting men, women, homosexual, bisexual, heterosexual, disabled people, etc etc to varying degrees - and they all need addressing.

Indeed.

About feminism...its not something I really know anything about, always just assumed that feminism was about fighting for womens rights tbh. So I bow to your superior knowledge :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

The way the OP worded it I expected a wife to be beating her husband within an inch of his life.

The Bonmarche ad is bloody awful but "violence against men" please. If you want to be taken seriously try finding some actual examples instead of this nitpicking crap.

And the second example is stereotypical to both sexes. The man burping, lazy and childish. The woman a harridan, constantly cleaning and hard done by. It works both ways.

Stop trying to make "Middle Class White Straight Male Lives Matter" happen.

They do matter:bawling:

[the truth]

Government Sponsored Sexism
1) Real sexism is almost no shelters for male victims of domestic violence.
2) Real sexism is men getting harsher punishments for the same crime.
3) Real sexism is countries with compulsorily military service for men.
4) Real sexism, courts that takes children from fathers based on gender.
5) Men cannot even vote or get citizenship without enrolling for the draft.
6) Real sexism is numerous government departments dealing with women's issues but none dealing with men's issues.
7) Male infant circumcision/genital mutilation is legal and performed widely and even completely socially accepted but female genital mutilation is not.
8) A young boy raped by a woman can be forced to pay child support to his rapist if she gets pregnant, that's real sexism.
9) Many countries do not even recognize female on male rape. It can maximally only amount to “sexual assault” that's real sexism.
10) Real sexism is having no special laws like VAWA to protect men, even though men are the majority of victims of violent crime.
11) There are drives to fill quotas for women for the high paid roles but not in the dangerous jobs dominated by men, thats real sexism.
12) In the army, police, fire service or any other position women have to meet much lower physical standards than men.
13) Real sexism is services for men only given a fraction of the funds that services for women are given at a government and a social level.
14) For the same crime, irrespective of the gender of the offender, the perpetrator gets more punishment if the victim is female rather than male.
15) Most divorce laws are skewed against men, men can lose half his properly, money and children to a woman who decides to leave him.
He is expected to pay for this betrayal, especially if he has already provided for and supported her, this is real sexism

[the truth]

LOL yeah, I would be taken really seriously for reporting a butt pinch to the police? :laugh: And no, of course I am not saying only men talk over women and never the other way around...but it happens more (ina professional environment) that men speak over women, and men are more listened to than women simply for being men. About technical stuff women can never know apparently as they are sweet little flowers that should be in the kitchen, not working in a 'mans environment'. Hell, last year I was in the apple shop and saw some guy umming and ahhing about some ridiculously pricey tablet he was wanting and asked for help, a woman came over and he said he wanted someone who 'actually knows what they are talking about' and beckoned a bloke over, who told the guy that the woman was actually best qualified and would be better to answer. That was quite funny to witness..and its definitely not the only instance of this kind of thing I have seen :p



Indeed.

About feminism...its not something I really know anything about, always just assumed that feminism was about fighting for womens rights tbh. So I bow to your superior knowledge :laugh:

Ive heard infinitely more sexist comments from women about men in the wokplace...ive heard women almost always be cruder and lewder, ive heard all men are assh^oles and such like and women claim no man can do the job theyre doing and endless other systematic male hate passive aggressive sexist drivel that is allowed to pass. the vast majority of women working in the banking call centres I used to work would argue with customers all day and night and cut the phones off and all sorts. taking the vast amount of calls and complaints as personal sleights against them personally. when all it was in reality was people desperate to speak to their bank account managers and desperate to get funds. empathy for customers didnt exist at that call centre, the staff weer far more concerned with their own feelings

[Vicky.]

Government Sponsored Sexism
1) Real sexism is almost no shelters for male victims of domestic violence.
2) Real sexism is men getting harsher punishments for the same crime.
3) Real sexism is countries with compulsorily military service for men.
4) Real sexism, courts that takes children from fathers based on gender.
5) Men cannot even vote or get citizenship without enrolling for the draft.
6) Real sexism is numerous government departments dealing with women's issues but none dealing with men's issues.
7) Male infant circumcision/genital mutilation is legal and performed widely and even completely socially accepted but female genital mutilation is not.
8) A young boy raped by a woman can be forced to pay child support to his rapist if she gets pregnant, that's real sexism.
9) Many countries do not even recognize female on male rape. It can maximally only amount to “sexual assault” that's real sexism.
10) Real sexism is having no special laws like VAWA to protect men, even though men are the majority of victims of violent crime.
11) There are drives to fill quotas for women for the high paid roles but not in the dangerous jobs dominated by men, thats real sexism.
12) In the army, police, fire service or any other position women have to meet much lower physical standards than men.
13) Real sexism is services for men only given a fraction of the funds that services for women are given at a government and a social level.
14) For the same crime, irrespective of the gender of the offender, the perpetrator gets more punishment if the victim is female rather than male.
15) Most divorce laws are skewed against men, men can lose half his properly, money and children to a woman who decides to leave him.
He is expected to pay for this betrayal, especially if he has already provided for and supported her, this is real sexism
Oh god..I had a HUGE argument about this the other day. So many people piled on me saying its a religious thing so fine and its medically beneficial and such. I also discovered ( :yuk: ) that in some circles the done thing is (or was) to
get the person performing the circumcision to suck the blood from the babies penis...

[Ammi]

...that Bonmarche ad is just awful...I've seen a few social experiment type vids and the complete difference in reactions from the general public, when a female is 'the victim' in aggressive situations and many will help/intervene...as opposed to when a female is being aggressive to a male and there is sometimes laughter at that situation../hahahaha, he must have been a naughty boy then, type thing...:sad:...

[Northern Monkey]

Well the test is that somebody should make the same ad but with men as the aggressors instead of the victims and see how long it lasts.

[Ammi]

Well the test is that somebody should make the same ad but with men as the aggressors instead of the victims and see how long it lasts.

...on a positive though, at least males don't have Bonmarche shops/clothes...(ooops, I hope there are no Bonmarche fans on the forum...)...

[Northern Monkey]

I had women grab my balls when i've been out on many occasions.Women are just as bad if not worse because they can get away with it.If i had'nt kind of enjoyed it i might have got all emotional:laugh:

[Niamh.]

I agree with the Truth.If we are going to allow violence against men in advertising then we need more violence against women too.Or better still no violence against anyone.There's a novel idea

:laugh: Yes, I think this is the right answer

[Livia]

Up till around fifty-odd years ago, sexism against women in advertising wasn't only the norm, it was de rigueur. It's taken a long time for women to gain some kind of equality... what a shame that some women have gone on to use that equality to do to men what men did to women for centuries. Respect - both ways - it's the only answer.

[Crimson Dynamo]

These shoes are awful

http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article8270369.ece/BINARY/sexist-adverts.jpg

[Amy Jade]

The advert is crap but you'd swear she was knifing men with the reaction on here.

One guy trips over, another she's too busy talking to notice so let's a door swing on him and the rest is her knocking men haphazardly - if anything she looks a twat for being so interested in clothes she's being ignorant and you feel bad for the men.

[Withano]

I dont really understand how you only found evidence of this happening one way and not both.. Its like you purposely went out to only find evidence that supports your own opinions. (We all know this is what you did, I'm just being playful).

[the truth]

This trash should simply not be acceptable.

[Lostie!]

Are you kidding me? You are talking about "discrimination against men" while unfortunately, we live in a society where women are considered inferior and have many less opportunities in every single sector? Please stop it, it's ridiculous. This "sexism against males thing" doesn't even exist. You've made it up.

Misandry absolutely exists and it's absurd that people insist on pretending it doesn't. There are situations where women are at a disadvantage, yes, but the same goes for men.

Just look at the general attitude towards men being assaulted by women and how casually it's treated. I watched a social experiment online where actors simulated domestic abuse in public and barely anyone cared when the man was the victim, some even said they assumed he deserved it. Then there's when The View panelists laughed at the story of a woman castrating her husband and when one of them brought up the double standard, the response was, and I quote, "It's different". It's things like this that result in male victims of domestic violence being less inclined to speak out, because there's still a disturbing trend of female-on-male violence being seen as funny and/or warranted.

So no, nobody's making anything up.

[Ammi]

Misandry absolutely exists and it's absurd that people insist on pretending it doesn't. There are situations where women are at a disadvantage, yes, but the same goes for men.

Just look at the general attitude towards men being assaulted by women and how casually it's treated. I watched a social experiment online where actors simulated domestic abuse in public and barely anyone cared when the man was the victim, some even said they assumed he deserved it. Then there's when The View panelists laughed at the story of a woman castrating her husband and when one of them brought up the double standard, the response was, and I quote, "It's different". It's things like this that result in male victims of domestic violence being less inclined to speak out, because there's still a disturbing trend of female-on-male violence being seen as funny and/or warranted.

So no, nobody's making anything up.


..yeah I totally agree Lostie and said earlier that some of those social experiments are extremely disturbing because it's not just that reactions are less to help a male but also that I many situations, it's actually laughed at and go girl, type thing in applauding the female....

[Lostie!]

..yeah I totally agree Lostie and said earlier that some of those social experiments are extremely disturbing because it's not just that reactions are less to help a male but also that I many situations, it's actually laughed at and go girl, type thing in applauding the female....

Absolutely. Both the experiment I watched and that Talk fiasco (it was The Talk, I always mix it up with The View :laugh:) treated it like some form of female empowerment (the example from The Talk was even more unsettling because it was such a savage act and the first response was to laugh and basically act like he probably had it coming :umm2:).

While these sentiments are still around, I find it impossible to deny that prejudice against males exists. It does and the evidence is there, and acknowledging that doesn't in anyway invalidate the struggles that women face themselves.

[the truth]

Social sexism against men
16) Real sexism is being mocked when raped because you're a man.
17) Men are expected to not show emotion and remain stoic at all times.
18) Victim blaming is acceptable ONLY when men are the victims and women the perpetrator. This is real sexism.
19) Real sexism is having your gender stereotyped by society as being violent, abusers, etc.
20) Men’s lives are given less value in any emergency situation.
21) Male children are often given harsher punishments by teachers for the same level of mischief as girls.
22) Young boys are given less care and attention by parents than girls and beaten over twice as often as girls by parents.
23) Violence against men by women is much more socially acceptable.
24) Affirmative action for women only in jobs, education, grants, etc.
25) Men enrolled in are often given tougher, more dangerous tasks to perform than women in the same post (in a job) This is real sexism.
27) Males who complain about being objectified are shamed as being “mentally fragile” or their sexuality is questioned. This is real sexism.
28) Men do not have the privilege of showing affection to each other in public as women without people questioning their sexuality.
29) Men are expected to ask women out, pay for dates, decide on the venue – if she rejects him he is often labelled creepy or needy.
30) If a man slaps a woman, he is an abuser and a monster, If a woman slaps a man, “he must have done something to annoy her”
31) When a man breaks up with a woman, he is called a “jerk”. When a woman dumps a man, “he must have failed her somehow”
32) Men are excluded from many positions such as babysitters, etc.
33) Young men having to pay higher car insurance is acceptable but the idea of women having to pay more for health insurance is not.
34) Despite the fact that the real victims of sexual discrimination are men the term sexual discrimination usually excludes men and the vast majority of surveys and news stories about sexual discrimination dont include men.
35) Our culture and media makes the assumption of men as guilty, violent offenders where as women are given special treatment at every turn.
36) In modern movies and TV violence against men is glorified but violence against women is regarded as especially horrific.
37) Many news reports will read the number of people killed and then highlight women and children as more tragic than male death.
EG: "37 people were killed in a bus crash including 17 women"
38) Men are expected to carry heavy things for women, give up their seats for women, shovel snow, mow gardens and do any other job involving manual labour, that women do not wish to perform.
39) Real sexism is a society where men are taught that a man's role is to work, provide, pay and die in order to ensure a woman's happiness.
40) Real sexism is the fact that men working longer hours in harder more dangerous jobs to earn more money to pay for women's choices is being turned into a weapon against men.

[the truth]

Children from fatherless homes


Are 5 times more likely to commit suicide
20 times more likely to have behavioural disorders
30 times more likely to run away from home
9 times more likely to drop out of school
10 times more likley to abuse chemical substances
9 times more likley to end up in a government funded institution
20 times more likely to end up in prison

[the truth]

Female Privilege
Women receive lighter sentences and a higher chance of acquittal 1
94% of sexually abused youth in correctional facilities reported being abused by female staff. Only 40% of the staff is female.
Inmates reporting staff sexual misconduct, ~ 65% reported a female aggressor
Study of US college women - 12% of the respondents reported ever using any type of force strategy while 43% reported using a coercion strategy and 92% reported using a seduction strategy to initiate sex.
Mothers kill children at twice the rate of fathers.
For Every 100 girls..
Women actually control 80% of household spending, and 51.3% of private wealth.
Women receive custody in over 90% of divorce proceedings
Women initiating divorce between 66% and 90% of the time.
Women make up the majority of college graduates
School system favors girls starting from Kindergarten
Feminists being horrible
Feminists skewed the Definition of Domestic Abuse, resulting in only male abusers being arrested and female abusers not.
Feminists’s DV training hurts Police training
Feminist Mary Koss denies male rape victims.
Feminists violently protesting against Warren Farrell at U of Toronto
A mob of feminists at a protest attack and sexually molesting a group of Rosary-praying Catholic men who were peacefully protecting a cathedral in San Juan from vandalism.
Feminists disrupt a forum for battered men
Feminists fought a law for equal custody to be the default if both parents want custody and neither parent is unfit. Multiple times.
Feminists started a campaign against Father’s rights groups
Feminists fought against laws granting men anonymity until charged with the crime of rape—not convicted, just charged.
Feminists fought against a law to end to the justice system favoring women and giving men harsher sentences simply because they are men.
Feminist fought against men want equal treatment when victims of domestic violence, and to not be arrested for the crime of “being male” under primary aggressor policies.
Feminists in India and Israel fought against female rapists being arrested & charged.
Feminists fought against economic stimulus for male-dominated job such as construction
Feminist fought a law against Paternity Fraud.
Hateful Quotes by Feminsts
Feminist Harriet Harman has publicly requested employers to hire women in preference to White men if both job candidates are equally
Equality Minister,feminist Patricia Hewitt, found guilty of breaching the Sex Discrimination Act by “overlooking a strong male candidate in favour of a weaker female applicant”.
Elected in 2009, the lesbian feminist prime minister Johanna Sigurdardottir has vowed to “end of the Age of Testosterone
Feminists want to make peeing while standing illegal
Erin Pizzey had to flee the UK because she & her family received death threats & her dog was shot because feminists didn’t like that she stated women were just as violent as men.
Suzanne Steinmetz & her children received bomb & death threats when she found the rate at which men were victimized was similar to the rate for women.
Richard Gelles & Murray Straus received death threats from feminists for publishing findings that female-to-male family violence was equal to male-to-female violence.
More
Warmongering/evil female rulers in history but feminists fight the draught for women.
Suffragettes commit arson attacks and vandalism before shaming men into war for bribes.

[the truth]

Vat amounts of women simply use men for money

70% of UK women would instantly change their minds about leaving a boring man if he won a lottery jackpot. 78% of US women said a partner with a steady job was the most important trait in a future spouse. 75% said they’d have a problem with dating someone without a job. Only 4% would go out with an unemployed man. 70% of Chinese women expect a man to provide an apartment along with a cash marriage offer.



Feminism Debunked
"The Wage Gap"
The Wage Gap is a myth. 1 2
Women tend to choose majors that pay a lower national median pay.
Women Now a Majority in American Workplaces
Labor force participation rate for men has never been lower.
Women in some cases make more than men.
And their husbands dont have a problem with it either.
Women CHOOSE to stay away from STEM field
There is no STEM gender gap in the U.S
Women In Tech Make More Money And Land Better Jobs Than Men
Domestic Violence
Women are perpetrators often as men.
Women are more violent
Domestic violence being equally committed by women, only males get arrested
Men are over 40% of domestic abuse victims
Male DV victims are discriminated against
Gay and bi men experience abuse in intimate partner relationships at a rate of 2 in 5, which is comparable to the rate of domestic violence experienced by heterosexual women.
About 17-45% of lesbians report having been the victim of a least one act of physical violence perpetrated by a lesbian partner (1,5,6,13).
Men or DV is Not the leading cause of death among women under 50
More DV facts
Rape Culture
Statistics doesn’t back up Rape culture
RAINN debunks Rape culture
"97% of rapists never see a day in jail" is a myth
Lesbian on Lesbian Rape
Inflation of anti-human trafficking statistics
Men who are falsely accused of rape can have their names published and their lives ruined even if they are not convicted or charged - their accuser is protected and is likely to face no punishment, or a light one.
Under a federal directive, men are convicted of rape in university if the investigating board finds that the chances they committed the rape are at 50.00001% or greater.
The DOE policy in practice: Caleb Warner was accused of rape and expelled from the University of North Dakota, then his accuser was charged with filing a false report. He remains expelled as of June 2011
Woman rapes boy, woman becomes pregnant, boy must paid child support.
40% of rapists are female 1
Definition of rape, erases victims of rape who are forced to penetrate, generally men who are forced to have sex with women.
Men are raped in the military
Men Outnumber Women Among American Rape Victims
Male statutory rape victims forced to pay child support
59% of the rapists had been heterosexually molested.
Female Pedophiles Cause Children More Harm
males and females carried out sexual violence at strikingly similar rates after the age of 18
Female-on-male sexual assault is under reported
Mens Issues
A man is approximately 165% more likely to be convicted than a woman
Men are significantly more likely to be the victims of violent crime
Men and Boys are doing worse in educational, from kindergarten to university.
Men suffer from Paternity fraud
Female business owners get money from the government for being female. Males?no
Some Airlines, have banned male from sitting next to children because they are men.
Rape of males in Prison and jail
Male circumcision is still legal
Men often coerced into sex: study
Boy victims of sex trafficking ignored
Men are 93 % of work place death/violence.
Eating disorders among men and boys
Demonization of Male Sexuality
Catastrophically high suicide male rate
Literally zero male shelters
75-80% of the Homeless are men
Family courts are bais against men.
Divorced men are 40% more likely to commit suicide

[Shaun]

The only post I'll make on this subject and other similar ones where a smaller "persecution" aspect of society is happening but is overlooked because of the opposite (racism against whites, heterophobia, etc.) is that it's all very fair and well to say that these things do indeed exist, and are a problem, but the types of people you see campaigning against them... you almost always never see them campaigning against racism, or sexism, or homophobia. So it comes off as incredibly problematic. If your sole political motivation is to make sure that white people aren't called vanilla all the time on Twitter, and you're going to at best ignore the thousands of instances of racial abuse, then it comes across as incredibly blinkered.

I do agree that you get a tough time on here sometimes truth but honestly I have never once seen you express any form of awareness of discrimination against women; in fact you often propagate it yourself.

And it's a real problem amongst the growing Trump/Milo crowds. They see their persecution and their "lack of freedom of speech" as a real thing. As if being told off and banned from Twitter for encouraging people to call black celebrities gorillas is a burden.

[the truth]

The only post I'll make on this subject and other similar ones where a smaller "persecution" aspect of society is happening but is overlooked because of the opposite (racism against whites, heterophobia, etc.) is that it's all very fair and well to say that these things do indeed exist, and are a problem, but the types of people you see campaigning against them... you almost always never see them campaigning against racism, or sexism, or homophobia. So it comes off as incredibly problematic. If your sole political motivation is to make sure that white people aren't called vanilla all the time on Twitter, and you're going to at best ignore the thousands of instances of racial abuse, then it comes across as incredibly blinkered.

I do agree that you get a tough time on here sometimes truth but honestly I have never once seen you express any form of awareness of discrimination against women; in fact you often propagate it yourself.

And it's a real problem amongst the growing Trump/Milo crowds. They see their persecution and their "lack of freedom of speech" as a real thing. As if being told off and banned from Twitter for encouraging people to call black celebrities gorillas is a burden.

Why would I be talking about discrimination against women when Im talking about this grotesque discrimination against men? am I mean to say at the end of every sentence, oh but women get it hard too? Everyone is quite aware women get discriminated against too....In the 3rd world countries obviously that is much worse , though i reject the simplistic notion its often just men wanting to keep them down. In 3rd world nations the poverty the lack of education the lack of medical supplies and infrastructure, the endless wars all make these environments more wild and unruly and its about survival as much as anything else...We simply cant equate what happens there with the priveliged culture of the western world...Here discrimination aginst men is massively greater than against women.

The mass media and the political establishment do a fine job of highlighting every single problem women have from the major ones to the minscule ones. I am here to speak for the silent majority of men who are massively discriminated against. I dont and wont qualify every sentence with but women have it hard too, there are infinitely more male bashing sexist comments here and across the media than the other way around.

I realise I will be crucified on here and banned endlessly. That doesnt make one blind bit of difference to me , ban me forever, I wont be silenced, the truth is the truth and the truth will set you free!

[Niamh.]

Why would I be talking about discrimination against women when Im talking about this grotesque discrimination against men? am I mean to say at the end of every sentence, oh but women get it hard too? Everyone is quite aware women get discriminated against too....In the 3rd world countries obviously that is much worse , though i reject the simplistic notion its often just men wanting to keep them down. In 3rd world nations the poverty the lack of education the lack of medical supplies and infrastructure, the endless wars all make these environments more wild and unruly and its about survival as much as anything else...We simply cant equate what happens there with the priveliged culture of the western world...Here discrimination aginst men is massively greater than against women.

The mass media and the political establishment do a fine job of highlighting every single problem women have from the major ones to the minscule ones. I am here to speak for the silent majority of men who are massively discriminated against. I dont and wont qualify every sentence with but women have it hard too, there are infinitely more male bashing sexist comments here and across the media than the other way around.

I realise I will be crucified on here and banned endlessly. That doesnt make one blind bit of difference to me , ban me forever, I wont be silenced, the truth is the truth and the truth will set you free!

You seem to expect women to talk about male discrimination all the time though

[the truth]

You seem to expect women to talk about male discrimination all the time though

I expect the truth

[Niamh.]

I expect the truth

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/trth.gif

[Mokka]

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/trth.gif

:joker::joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Not the women bullying The Truth in his own women are sexist to men thread

what kind of irony

:think:

[Kizzy]

'Men Outnumber Women Among American Rape Victims'

Where did you find this gem?...

[the truth]

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/trth.gif

feminists cant

[ArgyESC]

"Men Outnumber Women Among American Rape Victims"

This is a joke and a terrible one.

[Marsh.]

Some of these "facts".

:laugh2:

Absolute GOLD. Keep em coming.

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/men-outnumber-women-among-american-rape-victims/


Is the US the only country where more men are raped than women?

In January, prodded in part by outrage over a series of articles in the New York Review of Books, the Justice Department finally released an estimate of the prevalence of sexual abuse in penitentiaries. The reliance on filed complaints appeared to understate the problem. For 2008, for example, the government had previously tallied 935 confirmed instances of sexual abuse. After asking around, and performing some calculations, the Justice Department came up with a new number: 216,000. That's 216,000 victims, not instances. These victims are often assaulted multiple times over the course of the year. The Justice Department now seems to be saying that prison rape accounted for the majority of all rapes committed in the US in 2008, likely making the United States the first country in the history of the world to count more rapes for men than for women.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/feb/21/us-more-men-raped-than-women

[Northern Monkey]

All that has to be done is make a similar ad but reversed.Then if that's not ok then neither is this one.Or if that doesn't get taken down then neither should this.Simple

[Marsh.]

All that has to be done is make a similar ad but reversed.Then if that's not ok then neither is this one.Or if that doesn't get taken down then neither should this.Simple

It's sexist towards women too.

She's so preoccupied by shopping and clothes she's not aware of anything going on around her.

[the truth]

All that has to be done is make a similar ad but reversed.Then if that's not ok then neither is this one.Or if that doesn't get taken down then neither should this.Simple

exactly. ive contacted this company today and given them a piece of my mind and forwarded this to my local mp. this trash promotes and condones casual violence against men to millions

[Niamh.]

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/men-outnumber-women-among-american-rape-victims/


Is the US the only country where more men are raped than women?

In January, prodded in part by outrage over a series of articles in the New York Review of Books, the Justice Department finally released an estimate of the prevalence of sexual abuse in penitentiaries. The reliance on filed complaints appeared to understate the problem. For 2008, for example, the government had previously tallied 935 confirmed instances of sexual abuse. After asking around, and performing some calculations, the Justice Department came up with a new number: 216,000. That's 216,000 victims, not instances. These victims are often assaulted multiple times over the course of the year. The Justice Department now seems to be saying that prison rape accounted for the majority of all rapes committed in the US in 2008, likely making the United States the first country in the history of the world to count more rapes for men than for women.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/feb/21/us-more-men-raped-than-women

The perpetrators of those rapes are men though, you would think the way Truth is going on that it was women who were doing it :/

[Smithy]

Feminists being horrible

Dbxbfbnfbdnkah :laugh2: