Hello luv.. Are you offended?

[Kizzy]

Is it difficult to understand why woman in the workplace don't appreciate being called love, babe or honey..... there's a radio interview it's long but worth a listen, the male presenters can't seem to grasp the reasonings behind the research, it's quite amusing.

http://talkradio.co.uk/news/bird-doll-hormonal-and-other-sexist-words-have-no-place-workplace-1609304812

[Marsh.]

I can understand not liking "bird" and "honey" which can be sexist and patronising.

But "love", I get that quite a lot from older people. :laugh: So in that respect it's kinda ageist. :nono:

[Rob!]

I can understand not liking "bird" and "honey" which can be sexist and patronising.

But "love", I get that quite a lot from older people. :laugh: So in that respect it's kinda ageist. :nono:

You moaned about being called love on DS :nono:

[Rob!]

For what it's worth I call people darling, love, sweetie, babe and everything at work

[MB.]

For what it's worth I call people darling, sweetie and everything at work

Calm down Patsy Stone

[caprimint]

I find any of those words to be really patronizing and awful, I don't like it from anyone though if it's friends/family/randomers/customers/etc.

[Amy Jade]

I dont mind being called any of them

[Firewire]

hen is the best

[Northern Monkey]

Maybe it's a regional thing.In the north it's just the norm."cheers love","mind ya back love","ey up love","steady on love" etc etc

[Kyle]

I get called love all the time round here and the vast majority of it comes from women.

Never once has it kept me awake at night.

Might as well just stop talking to people full stop the way we are going.

[smudgie]

I get called love all the time round here and the vast majority of it comes from women.

Never once has it kept me awake at night.

Might as well just stop talking to people full stop the way we are going.

Aye love, a good Northern lad.

[Kyle]

Aye love, a good Northern lad.

Exactly. Nowt wrong with it in my opinion. As long as you don't have drool hanging from yer gob and yer hand down yer kegs while you call some lass love it's alright with me tha knows. Just being nice and friendly. :hee:

[Kizzy]

I does specify in the workplace, in general conversation I like it but at work I can see why there's a need to maintain professionalism and terms like that just don't really.

[Northern Monkey]

I think when these women get offended by day to day conversation they're just being abit hysterical tbh.I don't blame em though,It's not their fault i think it's just the hormones.

[Kyle]

I think when these women get offended by day to day conversation they're just being abit hysterical tbh.I don't blame em though,It's not their fault i think it's just the hormones.

Niamh or Kizzy are gunna have your balls in a vice in a minute pal for saying that.

I'd like to stick around and back you up but I'm a bit of a bootlick now so I'll stand behind Niamh and point and tut at you, you nasty man :nono:

[Marsh.]

You moaned about being called love on DS :nono:

I was never called love on DS. :nono:

[Amy Jade]

I does specify in the workplace, in general conversation I like it but at work I can see why there's a need to maintain professionalism and terms like that just don't really.

I get called love, darling, babe, hun, all kinds of things in work by colleagues and the customers and I don't find it offensive at all. It's not said in a bad natured way so I don see how it's offensive.

[Ammi]

...I don't have time to listen to the article atm../I'll put it on my playlist and try to another time...but I think generally for me and like many other things, it depends on the context whether it be in the workplace or anywhere..'love' and 'sweetheart' and such the like can be used in an intentionally patronising/condescending way and then they may cause offense because that was the intention and the vein at the time...although I still wouldn't be offended as such but more just amused I think...but they're quite often used affectionately as well as terms of endearment, I think that most of us generally know which way they're meant...

[Ammi]

For what it's worth I call people darling, love, sweetie, babe and everything at work

..I sometimes do with the children if I can't always immediately recall their names...

[Ammi]

I get called love, darling, babe, hun, all kinds of things in work by colleagues and the customers and I don't find it offensive at all. It's not said in a bad natured way so I don see how it's offensive.

...or what Amy said really...

[Northern Monkey]

Niamh or Kizzy are gunna have your balls in a vice in a minute pal for saying that.

I'd like to stick around and back you up but I'm a bit of a bootlick now so I'll stand behind Niamh and point and tut at you, you nasty man :nono:

:joker:

[Kizzy]

Nobody listened then? :/

[kirklancaster]

Nobody listened then? :/

Listened to what love? :laugh: Just joshing. I'm listening to it now.

[user104658]

I find all of these little names irritating. Not necessarily offensive, but needless. It is a cross gender issue though, I get "love" or "darling" plenty from women :joker:. Also from men; "Pal", "Bud", "Buddy", the occasional "Champ", "Big Man" (always from short angry little fellows), "mate"... even one who routinely calls me "Boy" like something out of Oliver Twist.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I can guarantee you that if an attractive person calls you any of them the moaners would not care

what they dont like is people they dont like calling them that

[Vicky.]

Personally I don't mind any of the terms but I understand why others take issue also. I guess 'love' and such are tame compared to the other things you are called when working in bars (which I have done like..all of my adult life) which may scew my opinion somewhat.

[the truth]

Is it difficult to understand why woman in the workplace don't appreciate being called love, babe or honey..... there's a radio interview it's long but worth a listen, the male presenters can't seem to grasp the reasonings behind the research, it's quite amusing.

http://talkradio.co.uk/news/bird-doll-hormonal-and-other-sexist-words-have-no-place-workplace-1609304812

women call men boy all the time in a demeaning way and and many other little put down words and as usual nothing ever gets said about it, because only men can be sexist just as only white people can be racist ........pathetic double standards in our increasingly insane society

[Kizzy]

In the workplace I don't agree with these terms from either sex.

[jaxie]

For the most part it's political correctness gone mad. (again) It's not offensive, it's fairly harmless and it's just the way people speak not a deliberate form of belittling. I've heard as many women say love and babe for instance as I have men. Just file it in stupid **** people who have nothing better to do with their time choose to take offence over.

[the truth]

people use all sorts of terms of endearments, men and women in equal measure, love, pet, chuck, etc anyone who gets complains or gets offended by this harmless nonsense should have the biggest pants pull in history then forced to wear the skidmark pants for a year

[kirklancaster]

I use the term 'Love' to EVERYONE - men, women, children. It is instinctive and never meant to be offensive, patronising, or insulting.

My use of the term stems from THREE factors:

1) I am Yorkshire born and bred.
2) I am a naturally very open and friendly person (in REAL life).
3) I grew up in a very, very, different era.

All three factors are relevant, but probably NONE so as much as the third.

The world has moved on dramatically from the simple 50's when I was a mere toddler.

It has moved on progressively faster and faster with each passing decade, and as usually happens, the greater the speed, the more likelyhood of things being forgotten or lost along the way;

Major things like courtesy, selflessness, community spirit, and minor things, such as CHEERINESS and FRIENDLINESS.

Whatever happened to people?

We are becoming a nation of inward looking, selfish and miserable twats.

When I was a lad... And Old Shep was a pup - NO, that's an Elvis number. :hee:

When I was a lad the sound of the milkman and postman, and even people just passing, WHISTLING CHEERFULLY or calling out melodic chirpy greetings, such as ''MORNIN' LOVE' brightened our drab old terrace streets.

Where is that jolliness, that happiness, that chirpy friendliness now?

I will continue to smile and greet strangers in passing, and continue to call people love, and if anyone does not like that fact, then they go and insert their PC. where the 'Sun Don't Shine'.

[Ammi]

I use the term 'Love' to EVERYONE - men, women, children. It is instinctive and never meant to be offensive, patronising, or insulting.

My use of the term stems from THREE factors:

1) I am Yorkshire born and bred.
2) I am a naturally very open and friendly person (in REAL life).
3) I grew up in a very, very, different era.

All three factors are relevant, but probably NONE so as much as the third.

The world has moved on dramatically from the simple 50's when I was a mere toddler.

It has moved on progressively faster and faster with each passing decade, and as usually happens, the greater the speed, the more likelyhood of things being forgotten or lost along the way;

Major things like courtesy, selflessness, community spirit, and minor things, such as CHEERINESS and FRIENDLINESS.

Whatever happened to people?

We are becoming a nation of inward looking, selfish and miserable twats.

When I was a lad... And Old Shep was a pup - NO, that's an Elvis number. :hee:

When I was a lad the sound of the milkman and postman, and even people just passing, WHISTLING CHEERFULLY or calling out melodic chirpy greetings, such as ''MORNIN' LOVE' brightened our drab old terrace streets.

Where is that jolliness, that happiness, that chirpy friendliness now?

I will continue to smile and greet strangers in passing, and continue to call people love, and if anyone does not like that fact, then they go and insert their PC. where the 'Sun Don't Shine'.


...oh....I'm going to take that as a term of endearment because you're a Yorkshireman, Kirk..:laugh:..

[kirklancaster]

...oh....I'm going to take that as a term of endearment because you're a Yorkshireman, Kirk..:laugh:..

:laugh: Did the wide eyed Hera think that she was included as she looked down from Olympus as Achilles cursed mere mortals?

No - of course not.

And neither were you - MY Goddess - in my thoughts when I wrote that line.

YOU are above the frailties and flaws which tarnish we ordinary mortals.

(Did THAT just get me out of trouble Princess? :hee:) :kiss:

[Ammi]

:laugh: Did the wide eyed Hera think that she was included as she looked down from Olympus as Achilles cursed mere mortals?

No - of course not.

And neither were you - MY Goddess - in my thoughts when I wrote that line.

YOU are above the frailties and flaws which tarnish we ordinary mortals.

(Did THAT just get me out of trouble Princess? :hee:) :kiss:

...no I can be a really miserable and selfish whatsitcalled thing..:laugh:.../I was just teasing you, Kirk..:love:......my father in law was a Yorkshireman as well....

[Northern Monkey]

I use the term 'Love' to EVERYONE - men, women, children. It is instinctive and never meant to be offensive, patronising, or insulting.

My use of the term stems from THREE factors:

1) I am Yorkshire born and bred.
2) I am a naturally very open and friendly person (in REAL life).
3) I grew up in a very, very, different era.

All three factors are relevant, but probably NONE so as much as the third.

The world has moved on dramatically from the simple 50's when I was a mere toddler.

It has moved on progressively faster and faster with each passing decade, and as usually happens, the greater the speed, the more likelyhood of things being forgotten or lost along the way;

Major things like courtesy, selflessness, community spirit, and minor things, such as CHEERINESS and FRIENDLINESS.

Whatever happened to people?

We are becoming a nation of inward looking, selfish and miserable twats.

When I was a lad... And Old Shep was a pup - NO, that's an Elvis number. :hee:

When I was a lad the sound of the milkman and postman, and even people just passing, WHISTLING CHEERFULLY or calling out melodic chirpy greetings, such as ''MORNIN' LOVE' brightened our drab old terrace streets.

Where is that jolliness, that happiness, that chirpy friendliness now?

I will continue to smile and greet strangers in passing, and continue to call people love, and if anyone does not like that fact, then they go and insert their PC. where the 'Sun Don't Shine'.:clap1:
The world is full of miserable bastards now who think it makes them popular or cool to be offended/a victim.This is mainly from the so called 'Millenials'.Not all of them by any means but there are a percentage who have spent most of their teens learning about a warped view of real life from crap they've read on the internet.It started out with people who won't stand up for themselves in real life vented the things that piss them off online and turned into mass movements of leftist 'social justice' stupidity.They don't realise that they have absolutely no right to not be offended in real life.There's no report button when somebody says something you don't like,You can't get them banned for opposing opinions.Just because somebody doesn't like a term of phrase and part of a language which has been used for centuries does'nt mean that they have the right to ban it in the work place or anywhere else.Women call me 'love' and many more things everyday.I take it as a term of endearment.I don't go and file sexual harassment report.:laugh:

[Northern Monkey]

To add to that.I think these 'i'm offended' by words things come about because women of today have no more to moan about than men do and SOME women(i.e modern feminists) know that there's no need for feminism in the civilised western democracies anymore but are clinging onto it dearly for nostalgic reasons because they 'want to feel part of something'.What they need to do is direct it where it is needed in the countries where women truly are oppressed.When pathetic 'issues' like common terms such as 'love' or 'sweetheart' are the subject of their anger then this tells us that they have no more real causes to fight for.

[Kyle]

I'll be honest if i found out someone didn't like being called love I'd probably call them love.

[Northern Monkey]

A Saudi Arabian woman would piss her pants laughing at so called causes like this by western feminists.She would give her right arm to have first world problems like this.

[Vicky.]

Kirk, you cannot be a proper Yorkshireman if you do not use the word 'duck' constantly :hmph:

I discovered this after a few m onths of being confused by being called duck both by my mums boyfriend, and then by a few people from yorkshire when Iw as working in a bar. Women too. ALWAYS duck.

[Northern Monkey]

Kirk, you cannot be a proper Yorkshireman if you do not use the word 'duck' constantly :hmph:

I discovered this after a few m onths of being confused by being called duck both by my mums boyfriend, and then by a few people from yorkshire when Iw as working in a bar. Women too. ALWAYS duck.

That's Nottinghamshire/parts of South Yorkshire

[Kyle]

We don't say duck in Rotherham but I've heard it in Chesterfield and Mansfield outside of my county.

[kirklancaster]

Kirk, you cannot be a proper Yorkshireman if you do not use the word 'duck' constantly :hmph:

I discovered this after a few m onths of being confused by being called duck both by my mums boyfriend, and then by a few people from yorkshire when Iw as working in a bar. Women too. ALWAYS duck.

:laugh: Nah den old pal, dat's Sheffield for di, and parts er Nottingham as Paul sez.

Bur ah do use 'duck' nah an agean, when am in't company er't olderend - if the from them parts.

:hee::wavey:

[Kyle]

:laugh: Nah den old pal, dat's Sheffield for di, and parts er Nottingham as Paul sez.

Bur ah do use 'duck' nah an agean, when am in't company er't olderend - if the from them parts.

:hee::wavey:

Bloody dee dars :fan:

[kirklancaster]

We don't say duck in Rotherham but I've heard it in Chesterfield and Mansfield outside of my county.

They only say 'duck' in Rotherham, Barnsley and Leeds, when someone has thrown a beer bottle at you. :laugh:

[kirklancaster]

Bloody dee dars :fan:

:laugh: THAT is exactly what we call them. :laugh:

[Northern Monkey]

We don't say duck in Rotherham but I've heard it in Chesterfield and Mansfield outside of my county.

I used to work with a lad from Mansfield and he'd say "Y'arrate duck"

[Kyle]

They only say 'duck' in Rotherham, Barnsley and Leeds, when someone has thrown a beer bottle at you. :laugh:

Too reyt. Mind you they're too slow in Barnsley from the amount of inbreeding so I dunno if they'd get down quick enough. :hehe:

I used to work with a lad from Mansfield and he'd say "Y'arrate duck"

Oh god it's like scraping your nails down a chalk board. Summat I've always wanted to do but not been brave enough is when someone says 'alright duck?' Is to just start quacking back at them.

[kirklancaster]

Too reyt. Mind you they're too slow in Barnsley from the amount of inbreeding so I dunno if they'd get down quick enough. :hehe:

:joker:

Oh god it's like scraping your nails down a chalk board. Summat I've always wanted to do but not been brave enough is when someone says 'alright duck?' Is to just start quacking back at them.

:joker:

[Northern Monkey]

Too reyt. Mind you they're too slow in Barnsley from the amount of inbreeding so I dunno if they'd get down quick enough. :hehe:




:joker:

'Any brother of yours is a brother of mine and dunt thar forgerit'

[Kizzy]

I use the term 'Love' to EVERYONE - men, women, children. It is instinctive and never meant to be offensive, patronising, or insulting.

My use of the term stems from THREE factors:

1) I am Yorkshire born and bred.
2) I am a naturally very open and friendly person (in REAL life).
3) I grew up in a very, very, different era.

All three factors are relevant, but probably NONE so as much as the third.

The world has moved on dramatically from the simple 50's when I was a mere toddler.

It has moved on progressively faster and faster with each passing decade, and as usually happens, the greater the speed, the more likelyhood of things being forgotten or lost along the way;

Major things like courtesy, selflessness, community spirit, and minor things, such as CHEERINESS and FRIENDLINESS.

Whatever happened to people?

We are becoming a nation of inward looking, selfish and miserable twats.

When I was a lad... And Old Shep was a pup - NO, that's an Elvis number. :hee:

When I was a lad the sound of the milkman and postman, and even people just passing, WHISTLING CHEERFULLY or calling out melodic chirpy greetings, such as ''MORNIN' LOVE' brightened our drab old terrace streets.

Where is that jolliness, that happiness, that chirpy friendliness now?

I will continue to smile and greet strangers in passing, and continue to call people love, and if anyone does not like that fact, then they go and insert their PC. where the 'Sun Don't Shine'.

So you haven't listened to the broadcast or understood the point of the survey at all then?

It has nothing to do with what is said in the street.

[jaxie]

So you haven't listened to the broadcast or understood the point of the survey at all then?

It has nothing to do with what is said in the street.

Does that really matter? It's a daft thing for people to get upset over, at work or at home. It's a pattern of speech that has been used for generations by both male and females, not some sort of sexist slight. Any woman who takes issue with that at work seriously needs to get over herself.

[kirklancaster]

Does that really matter? It's a daft thing for people to get upset over, at work or at home. It's a pattern of speech that has been used for generations by both male and females, not some sort of sexist slight. Any woman who takes issue with that at work seriously needs to get over herself.

:clap1::clap1::clap1: Yet another commonsense and truthful post Jax.

[kirklancaster]

So you haven't listened to the broadcast or understood the point of the survey at all then?

It has nothing to do with what is said in the street.

Yes, I did listen to it, AND understood what was meant to be the 'point' of the survey, but because I personally consider the survey point-less, I did not bother to comment directly upon it.

Instead, I gave my personal views on the subject - and judging by the number of responses on here to my personal views in comparison to the number of direct responses to the 'survey' broadcast, I would hazard a guess that no one else felt that there was any point to the survey either.

It is just so much piffle dreamt up by someone with nothing better to do for the delectation of similarly disposed people - to give them something to get excited about.

In my own personal opinion of course.

[Kizzy]

Does that really matter? It's a daft thing for people to get upset over, at work or at home. It's a pattern of speech that has been used for generations by both male and females, not some sort of sexist slight. Any woman who takes issue with that at work seriously needs to get over herself.

Yes it matters as it keeps the discussion in context, but I should be used to people flying off on tangents by now :laugh:

[jaxie]

My own hubs calls everyone love in his husky south London accent and he doesn't have a sexist bone in his body. You can't be sexist and live with me for more than 20 years and trust me when I say that no one puts Jaxie in the corner. :laugh:

[Ammi]

..I will say that I listened to the radio article a little earlier and it is worth a listen to get context..I did actually find it very interesting because there are a lot of people in the work place who don't know their colleagues that well so it's about how confidence in what they're doing can feel undermined as well and can have a real effect on them...and maybe it wouldn't also apply to many people but it is worth thought though...