The X Factor 2016 - Judges' Houses #1 [8PM Sat 1/10 & Xtra Factor @ 9:50PM | ITV/2HD]

[Johnnyuk123]

The whole of Wales now hate Simon Cowell.

[Shaun]

come thru samantha :clap1: i'll have to settle for 2/3

[Daniel-X]

They should've had a top four with Gifty, Samantha, Olivia and Emily :sad:

[LukeB]

The whole of Wales now hate Simon Cowell.

they will get over it, she wasn't that special. she isn't even memorable.

[Jordan.]

Yas Sam, wildcard icon.

[Shaun]

caitlyn >>>>

[Amy Jade]

they will get over it, she wasn't that special. she isn't even memorable.

Neither is Emily...

[Amy Jade]

Poor choices from both judges tonight imo

[Adamw92]

Caitlyn :(

[LukeB]

Come through Emily :clap1:

[Jay28jay2]

GOOD! Now we cant have a predictable winner

[Johnnyuk123]

Back to her bedroom then.

[Oaker]

Wasn't she the favourite to win like a week ago

[Jordan.]

Right choice imo

[Jay28jay2]

I feel as if Caitlyn will just be the wildcard

[LukeB]

Wasn't she the favourite to win like a week ago

Yeah but her odds went down,

Matt,5am and Emily are the top 3 favourites on the odds now.

[Jordan.]

Cute <3

[Johnnyuk123]

She deserved to go through tbh.

[Jay28jay2]

Yeah but her odds went down,

Matt,5am and Emily are the top 3 favourites on the odds now.

Matt and 5am are favourites :umm2:

[LukeB]

Matt and 5am are favourites :umm2:

yep :laugh:

[Pete.]

Robbie & Calvin = a snooze

[Serg]

Matt can't sing.

[caprimint]

The whole of Wales now hate Simon Cowell.
The entire country think he's a fool for not putting Caitlyn through too :idc:

[LukeB]

I loved Caitlyn but she was kind of similar to Samantha, I like that all 3 are different to each other. I hope Simon doesn't give Samantha the overused songs though.

[Daniel.]

Watching on plus 1 is anyone else confused wt louis decision

[LaLaLand]

Some awful decisions.

[Johnnyuk123]

Watching on plus 1 is anyone else confused wt louis decision

I knew he would put Jedward 2.0 through. That was a given sadly.

[Natalie.]

come thru samantha :clap1: i'll have to settle for 2/3

k5hWWe-ts2s

[Shaun]

*still holding out hope that Chanal is being brought back from wherever it was she disappeared as an emergency wildcard*

[Amy Jade]

https://s15.postimg.org/wsjlsw857/FB_IMG_1475355267452.jpg

Who said they look like Nobbly Bobblys? :laugh2:

[Daniel-X]

The girls are the best single category in ages, idg the hate. But yeah the groups are vile.

[Drew.]

Samantha and Emily :clap1: the category as a whole seems really good.. think Emily could struggle with themed weeks though but she'll have a good career anyway

[caprimint]

Samantha and Emily :clap1: the category as a whole seems really good.. think Emily could struggle with themed weeks though but she'll have a good career anyway
Yeah it's the same as always when a good quirky girl goes through to live shows (Abi Alton, Janet Devlin) and loses momentum because of the ridiculously terrible themes.

[Daniel-X]

Abi Alton and Janet Devlin were terrible.

[Samm]

Abi Alton and Janet Devlin were terrible.

when she died backstage ahh

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/10/21/article-2469741-18DF603200000578-165_634x414.jpg

[Samm]

"this weeks theme is....EDM"

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/10/21/article-2469741-18DF603200000578-165_634x414.jpg

[Jack_]

^ I like that idea, they should try that theme

[Daniel-X]

when she died backstage ahh

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/10/21/article-2469741-18DF603200000578-165_634x414.jpg

Jfjfjfjfjfff her poor guitar strings </3

[caprimint]

Hannah pushing her down the stairs :bored:

^ I like that idea, they should try that theme
Or not if they wanna keep the smallest amount of dignity the show still has.

[Headie]

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Screaming the catladies are gonna hate her so much

[Jack_]

Hannah pushing her down the stairs :bored:


Or not if they wanna keep the smallest amount of dignity the show still has.

Dignity? X Factor? :joker: what on earth am I reading on this forum tonight, that's akin to saying Big Brother is a classy programme lmao

And besides what's undignified about EDM? :unsure: it's a pretty damn popular genre

[caprimint]

Dignity? X Factor? :joker: what on earth am I reading on this forum tonight, that's akin to saying Big Brother is a classy programme lmao

And besides what's undignified about EDM? :unsure: it's a pretty damn popular genre
To think it's the place where Leona Lewis came from, you would not believe it's still the same show to this day. It's never really been perceived as a 'joke' of a show until the last few years when the excessive amounts of ridiculous decisions have been made.

It wasn't really in regards to the genre - it was more so thinking about an entire episode being dedicated to club-like performances. It would be the worst theme imaginable.

[Black Dagger]

Emily isn't that quirky. She's just a bore with a guitar.

[LukeB]

Yeah it's the same as always when a good quirky girl goes through to live shows (Abi Alton, Janet Devlin) and loses momentum because of the ridiculously terrible themes.

This, the themes only suit the majority most times! Cheryl wanted to get rid of them. But Emily can do a pop song well so i think she could do well and she has a judge who can help her better. I think Nicole didn't try with abi and kelly preferred misha b and Amelia. The only quirky girl to get the furthest was Diana Vickers.

[Jack_]

To think it's the place where Leona Lewis came from, you would not believe it's still the same show to this day. It's never really been perceived as a 'joke' of a show until the last few years when the excessive amounts of ridiculous decisions have been made.

It wasn't really in regards to the genre - it was more so thinking about an entire episode being dedicated to club-like performances. It would be the worst theme imaginable.

Well I agree with that but - and I know this'll go down like a lead balloon on here - Leona's series was actually pretty ****? Most of the series post 2008 are better than the ones that preceded it :shrug: they took the show in an entirely new direction in Joe's year and it paid off massively - what does that tell you? It only faltered because Simon gambled on XF US and they've been desperate to repair the damage ever since, but all the chopping and changing has only made things worse

My point is that it goes way beyond the 'last few years'. We're talking since like 2009? That's a long time. It's an entertainment programme first and foremost, 'talent competition' second. If you genuinely want the latter then watch The Voice, and that falters because it lacks what XF has. I just don't understand why year in, year out people fall over themselves trying to be outraged at the predictable - and correct in terms of a TV production - decisions that are made, everyone should know the drill by now. It's better this way, The Voice proves why and so does the mess of last series. Just view it as the entertainment juggernaut it is and don't try to look for musical integrity on one of the biggest stains on that very thing, and you might enjoy it more :laugh:

I don't think that would necessarily happen, often uptempo songs are slowed down and vice versa in a clear bending of the theme so it would probably end up being the same thing. It'd be a fun theme tbh

[caprimint]

Well I agree with that but - and I know this'll go down like a lead balloon on here - Leona's series was actually pretty ****? Most of the series post 2008 are better than the ones that preceded it :shrug: they took the show in an entirely new direction in Joe's year and it paid off massively - what does that tell you? It only faltered because Simon gambled on XF US and they've been desperate to repair the damage ever since, but all the chopping and changing has only made things worse

My point is that it goes way beyond the 'last few years'. We're talking since like 2009? That's a long time. It's an entertainment programme first and foremost, 'talent competition' second. If you genuinely want the latter then watch The Voice, and that falters because it lacks what XF has. I just don't understand why year in, year out people fall over themselves trying to be outraged at the predictable - and correct in terms of a TV production - decisions that are made, everyone should know the drill by now. It's better this way, The Voice proves why and so does the mess of last series. Just view it as the entertainment juggernaut it is and don't try to look for musical integrity on one of the biggest stains on that very thing, and you might enjoy it more :laugh:

I don't think that would necessarily happen, often uptempo songs are slowed down and vice versa in a clear bending of the theme so it would probably end up being the same thing. It'd be a fun theme tbh
Well I think the fact that the show has run its course plays a large part in why people are bored of it now (as much as the kind of decisions that are made tbh), I don't remember Leona's series overly well but obviously only being the third series people were hooked on it and it was seen as better than it really was most likely more than if it were to air now, but the point I'm wanting to make here is that what is the real problem is how it's declined. It was inevitable after 13 years anyway but the quality of the show is terrible, it has become painfully obvious how set up and fake it all is and that's where the problem lies.

The Voice's main problem is the coaches imo and the format isn't the best either. Plus people are literally just burnt out on singing shows now. I enjoy entertainment, but I don't enjoy seeing the same thing happen year after year where genuinely talented people are eliminated at the expense of viewing value.

If up-tempo songs are slowed down though then people just moan about them dodging the theme and not being able to do anything different. :worry:

[LukeB]

I still can't believe Simon told Sam to take off her make up :worry: i still don't get why she had to.

[Ross.]

For the ~drama~

[Liam-]

Do they never learn? the 'quirky' girls that aren't actually quirky, that just stand there with a guitar are always trash, Emily is no different, I mean, she's not terrible but come on.

Gifty was amazing as always, so it's great that she went through.

Samantha is.. average, I don't really get her if I'm honest, she's just dull.

Caitlyn deserved a place at lives way more than Emily or Samantha </3

[Cal.]

Gifty is gonna be despised

[Babayaro.]

Gifty will be a 'shock' week 2 boot, losing out to Ottavio & Bradley which will cause SO much fumes :love:

[Headie]

Even though Gifty's gonna be hated, it's Vote to Save so she has a lot of fans still, she wouldn't be 4th fave to win otherwise.

If anything Relley C will be the Week 1/2 black girl boot that goes against a joke act in the bottom 2 (if she makes it through to the live shows)

[Cal.]

Gifty will be a 'shock' week 2 boot, losing out to Ottavio & Bradley which will cause SO much fumes :love:

I see her as more of a Lauren Murray type who gets far despite being loathed by a lot of people.

[Samm]

Gifty will defiantly get near to the end, it's going to be Saara and Relley who will be the early female boots ;(

[Samm]

I see her as more of a Lauren Murray type who gets far despite being loathed by a lot of people.

but Gifty has TALENT Lauren did not

[Cal.]

but Gifty has TALENT Lauren did not

What a stupid statement to make. Regardless of whether you like Lauren or not you can't pretend she's talent less - it just makes you look stupid!http://i.imgur.com/qT5pzcI.gif

[Babayaro.]

Wow i just watched back 4 Of Diamond's and Skarl3t's performances and they were so robbed!!

[Babayaro.]

5 AM are easily the best group but I have a feeling that the public wont warm to them that well like The Risk and they'll get booted out week 4/5 :(

[Cal.]

Is it 10 weeks again this year?

[Cal.]

If it is then won't there have to be at least one wildcard?

[Babayaro.]

Im pretty sure it is 10 weeks, yeah. If they stick with 12 acts then that just means there will be no double eliminations

[Cal.]

Oh good I DESPISE them :clap1:

[Cal.]

The weekend we lost Lola Saunders & Jack Walton :bored:

And when Kiera Weathers, Seann Miley Moore, Monica Michael & Mason Noise were all robbed by them last series :bored:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Wow i just watched back 4 Of Diamond's and Skarl3t's performances and they were so robbed!!


It was a disgusting swizz

[Daniel-X]

Skarl3t would've been my series fav I think, had they made it :(

[Jack_]

Well I think the fact that the show has run its course plays a large part in why people are bored of it now (as much as the kind of decisions that are made tbh), I don't remember Leona's series overly well but obviously only being the third series people were hooked on it and it was seen as better than it really was most likely more than if it were to air now, but the point I'm wanting to make here is that what is the real problem is how it's declined. It was inevitable after 13 years anyway but the quality of the show is terrible, it has become painfully obvious how set up and fake it all is and that's where the problem lies.

The Voice's main problem is the coaches imo and the format isn't the best either. Plus people are literally just burnt out on singing shows now. I enjoy entertainment, but I don't enjoy seeing the same thing happen year after year where genuinely talented people are eliminated at the expense of viewing value.

If up-tempo songs are slowed down though then people just moan about them dodging the theme and not being able to do anything different. :worry:

Yeah I agree that given how long the show has been on air it was always going to decline in popularity at some point, though I am confident had they not ****ed up the panel in 2011 and stuck to the winning formula of the previous two years that they'd have been able to milk the extraordinary ratings for a couple more series, and that may have in turn lessened the damage when it came to the figures these days. The thing is though is that what you're describing goes back like seven years, the manipulation and fakeness was just as prevalent in the glory years of 09 and 10 as it is now and yet it was still a roaring success? I do agree with the people who say the joke acts aren't as funny as they used to be (and I'm not sure how that can be rectified), but thoroughly disagree that joke acts shouldn't be a part of the show at all. They're actually quite essential as far as I'm concerned. And to be fair, you were/are a fan of Jedward and Rylan so it does seem a bit odd for you to be complaining about this :laugh:

Well The Voice's new panel is piss poor that's for sure, but I think it goes beyond 'names' and more about their interaction with each other. Like I said in another thread, it's a massive love-in, everyone's ~amazing~, and that's just dull :shrug: give me Sharon throwing water over Louis, Gary saying Tulisa has fag ash breath, Cheryl and Louis bickering etc etc any day. And yeah, the format is also a mess. The only thing I'd say to your last sentence is that really, 'genuinely talented people' aren't partaking in shows like X Factor :laugh: or conversely, even if they are eliminated early if they're that good they'll be picked up anyway

That is true but so long as everyone doesn't change the arrangement of the songs I've never had much of an issue

[LukeB]

Gifty and Emily deserved their spot in the live shows and I'm glad Simon didn't take through both Samantha and Caitlyn because they are similar I would have preferred Caitlyn but I like how all 3 acts are different to each other I like a diverse category. So Simon did a great job with his choices.

Louis is just a mess at choosing, he said girl bands don't do well on x factor but he never gave them a chance to, they could have done, the underdogs can get support and get a bigger fan base, it happened to Little Mix and Fleur East. He should at least picked 1 boy band,1 girl band and 1 duo.

[Denver]

didnt Simon say he will take 5 girls and the others 3 acts each? that must hint at a wild card twist? one public and one judges?

[Calderyon]

Wow. How dumb is Louis?

Axing both talented girl acts/groups and taking a mediocre boy duo/act (or two) and a clear novelty act instead in the live shows.

Madness. No win for Louis.

[Morgan.]

didnt Simon say he will take 5 girls and the others 3 acts each? that must hint at a wild card twist? one public and one judges?

I think he meant he wanted to put 5 through, but it would be good if there was a Wildcard.

[Jack_]

I think they should do what BGT does re. wildcards, let the public pick one (say in a week long phone vote of the rejected 16) and then the judges pick another

[LukeB]

I think they should do what BGT does re. wildcards, let the public pick one (say in a week long phone vote of the rejected 16) and then the judges pick another

Like 2012? we choose out of 4 people and the result was awful.

[Jack_]

Yeah but I don't wanna choose out of four because then the judges get to pick who the options are, that's my point :laugh:

[caprimint]

Voting should just commence from judges' houses onwards.

[LukeB]

Voting should just commence from judges' houses onwards.

I'm surprised this has not happened :laugh:

[caprimint]

I'm surprised this has not happened :laugh:
Here for being part of next year's production team. :smug:

[Jack_]

I do hope they bring back opening the lines at the start of the show, it ensured the running order had no impact

[Calderyon]

Do not agree with Simons decisions either. At least Kayleigh and the blonde girl who forgot part of her lyrics, but otherwise sang great, should have been included in the final three.
And Giftee was not that impressive either.

[Shaun]

I think they should do what BGT does re. wildcards, let the public pick one (say in a week long phone vote of the rejected 16) and then the judges pick another

can we not because it'd just go to

Christian Burrows

[Babayaro.]

bye why did i click on that spoiler :/

lowkey happy that I did though :hee:

[Ross.]

Is it even a spoiler

[LukeB]

Here for being part of next year's production team. :smug:

:clap1: you will get rid of the themes too so you will be perfect.