Trump /Clinton Live (Debate 2) Sunday Oct. 9th Ch4HD/SkyNewsHD/CNN HD 1:35AM

[arista]

The Ch4HD Live starts at 1:35AM Monday Morning(UK time)
Debate starts 2AM (UK time)

Part 2 of 3

also on BBCNewsHD Live
If you prefer a split screen that will be on CNN HD

Trump has had a chance to to revise
and H. Clinton the same.


http://www.motherjones.com/files/imagecache/imagecache-300x169/trump-clinton-2000px.jpg
the first live debate


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nQGBZQrtT0
Saturday Night Live Comedy Clip
from the last one
for any that what a Laugh.

[the truth]

This is where the american economy falls down

The employment rate is weak and one of the lowest in 3 decades at 59%

Series Id: LNS12300000
Seasonally Adjusted
Series title: (Seas) Employment-Population Ratio
Labor force status: Employment-population ratio
Type of data: Percent or rate
Age: 16 years and over


Download: Download as an Excel File
Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
2006 62.9 63.0 63.1 63.0 63.1 63.1 63.0 63.1 63.1 63.3 63.3 63.4
2007 63.3 63.3 63.3 63.0 63.0 63.0 62.9 62.7 62.9 62.7 62.9 62.7
2008 62.9 62.8 62.7 62.7 62.5 62.4 62.2 62.0 61.9 61.7 61.4 61.0
2009 60.6 60.3 59.9 59.8 59.6 59.4 59.3 59.1 58.7 58.5 58.6 58.3
2010 58.5 58.5 58.5 58.7 58.6 58.5 58.5 58.6 58.5 58.3 58.2 58.3
2011 58.3 58.4 58.4 58.4 58.3 58.2 58.2 58.3 58.4 58.4 58.6 58.6
2012 58.4 58.5 58.6 58.5 58.5 58.6 58.5 58.4 58.7 58.8 58.7 58.6
2013 58.5 58.6 58.5 58.6 58.6 58.6 58.7 58.7 58.7 58.3 58.6 58.6
2014 58.8 58.8 59.0 58.9 58.9 59.0 59.0 59.0 59.1 59.3 59.2 59.2
2015 59.3 59.3 59.3 59.3 59.4 59.3 59.3 59.4 59.3 59.3 59.4 59.5
2016 59.6 59.8 59.9 59.7 59.7 59.6 59.7 59.7

[GiRTh]

Trump VP Mike Pence won last night debate against HRC VP Tim Kaine but from the fallout it has been noted that Pence had a number of chances to defend Trump but skillfully sidestepped every single one. I wonder how Trump felt about that?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/05/donald-trump-is-totally-not-upset-that-mike-pence-outdid-him-according-to-campaign-manager/

Other than that Trump has gone into another meltdown. Friday night he went nuts tweeting about the Miss Universe Alicia Machada who HRC bought up at the debate and in one tweet directed the world to check out a sex tape - The tape doesn't exist BTW .

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/30/donald-trump-attacks-former-miss-universe-over-sex-tape-in-late/

Monday the New York time printed a document they obtained from 1995 stating that Trump lost almost a billion dollars that year and due to that may not have paid taxes for almost two decades. Its not been a good week for the Trump campaign but as usual HRC people are to busy celebrating to notice she still cant pull away from him in the polls.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/03/business/how-donald-trump-turned-the-tax-code-into-a-giant-tax-shelter.html

And finally we have Bill yesterday trashing OBamacare and calling it ' The craziest thing in the world.' Does Bill not realise that HRC needs the Obama's to get her the minority vote. This kind of confirms something that has been a rumour for ages that the Clintons and Obama's dont like each other and today Obama has cancelled an event he was due to go to for Hillary. There is also the view that Bill is somewhat ambivalent to HRC campaign or is Bill jealous that his administration will be known for blow jobs in the Oval office while Obama has Bin Laden and Universal Healt care - which was originally a Bill Clinton idea - to boast about.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/04/politics/bill-clinton-obamacare-craziest-thing/index.html

Theres no clear fave at this point. Still alot to play for but someone needs to shut Bill up. He's hurting HRC far more that the Trump campaign ever could.

[Crimson Dynamo]

very interesting deputy debate yesterday

[arista]

live tonight 2AM

Ch4HD starts live at 1:35AM
with Matt Frei

[Liberty4eva]

Is anyone in the UK gonna stay up for this? :hee:

[Black Dagger]

No I think the first one of Trump talking over Hilary every 5 seconds was enough for me to handle. I know what to expect.

[kirklancaster]

Trump VP Mike Pence won last night debate against HRC VP Tim Kaine but from the fallout it has been noted that Pence had a number of chances to defend Trump but skillfully sidestepped every single one. I wonder how Trump felt about that?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/05/donald-trump-is-totally-not-upset-that-mike-pence-outdid-him-according-to-campaign-manager/

Other than that Trump has gone into another meltdown. Friday night he went nuts tweeting about the Miss Universe Alicia Machada who HRC bought up at the debate and in one tweet directed the world to check out a sex tape - The tape doesn't exist BTW .

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/30/donald-trump-attacks-former-miss-universe-over-sex-tape-in-late/

Monday the New York time printed a document they obtained from 1995 stating that Trump lost almost a billion dollars that year and due to that may not have paid taxes for almost two decades. Its not been a good week for the Trump campaign but as usual HRC people are to busy celebrating to notice she still cant pull away from him in the polls.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/03/business/how-donald-trump-turned-the-tax-code-into-a-giant-tax-shelter.html

And finally we have Bill yesterday trashing OBamacare and calling it ' The craziest thing in the world.' Does Bill not realise that HRC needs the Obama's to get her the minority vote. This kind of confirms something that has been a rumour for ages that the Clintons and Obama's dont like each other and today Obama has cancelled an event he was due to go to for Hillary. There is also the view that Bill is somewhat ambivalent to HRC campaign or is Bill jealous that his administration will be known for blow jobs in the Oval office while Obama has Bin Laden and Universal Healt care - which was originally a Bill Clinton idea - to boast about.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/04/politics/bill-clinton-obamacare-craziest-thing/index.html

Theres no clear fave at this point. Still alot to play for but someone needs to shut Bill up. He's hurting HRC far more that the Trump campaign ever could.

:clap1::clap1::clap1: Excellent post Girth.

[Withano]

Was it as embarrassing as the first one? Or has Trump had some practice?

[GiRTh]

Trump has turned up with four of Bill Clintons accusers. WTF is about to happen?

[Maru]

Won't be posting but will be watching with the husband when it comes on. Here for Making America Great Again Part Deux.

[AProducer'sWetDream]

Jesus Christ how low can Trump go?

http://www.itv.com/news/2016-10-10/trump-holds-presser-with-women-assaulted-by-bill-clinton/

[Northern Monkey]

Watching this!Got the popcorn and the Tic Tacs ready

[Tom4784]

Jesus Christ how low can Trump go?

http://www.itv.com/news/2016-10-10/trump-holds-presser-with-women-assaulted-by-bill-clinton/

His desperation knows no bounds.

[GiRTh]

Bit of a dry answer from HRC

[GiRTh]

Anderson :love:

[AProducer'sWetDream]

Anderson Cooper's gonna get so much sh*t for this but I love him! :love:

[Northern Monkey]

:joker:
When asked about his tape convo.Trump responded by saying he's going to take care of ISIS:laugh:

[GiRTh]

HRC going in hard so early. :shocked:

[GiRTh]

Mods wont let him make his speech. :laugh2:

[Tom4784]

'It's just words'

Ugh, Trump. Shut the **** up you hypocritical ****.

[GiRTh]

Here we go. Not sure this will work. Attacking Bill.

[Tom4784]

Trump is truly a disgusting human being.

[Northern Monkey]

Oh.****s getting real

[Tom4784]

Hillary is BURYING him.

[GiRTh]

This is already tremendous.

[Mitchell]

FFS, ANSWER THE QUESTION TRUMP

"I will defeat ISIS" -_-

[GiRTh]

Trumps doing well.

[Mitchell]

Fat check :love:

[Northern Monkey]

"Because you'd be in jail"

[Alf]

Send her to jail Donald

[Alf]

What an evil, evil woman

[bots]

he is doing better than i thought he would

[Tom4784]

Is Trump really going for the alleged criminal angle when he's got a child rape lawsuit pending against him?

[Alf]

Look at her face, she's probably thinking about how she can assassinate him.

[Mitchell]

32,000, 33,000 or 39,000 emails? make up your mind Dondon

[GiRTh]

Trump winning so far. HRC was rattled kept repeating fact checking.

[bots]

Is Trump really going for the alleged criminal angle when he's got a child rape lawsuit pending against him?

its all so negative ... about how crap each of them are ... its just not a constructive way forward

[Tom4784]

Shut the **** up Trump.

[Tom4784]

So he's talking about taking down obamacare and replacing it with some vague unrealistic replacement he just thought up on the spot? Hmm, Hillary's slaying him on the health issue.

[GiRTh]

**** this ****. Lets get back to the sex scandals.

[Mitchell]

She is correct, we don't need all this exclusion of minorities

[Tom4784]

'If I was president at that time, he'd be alive today'

How ****ing dare him.

[Mitchell]

'If I was president at that time, he'd be alive today'

How ****ing dare him.

I don't know why I'm watching this **** still, its only making me more angry

[AProducer'sWetDream]

Donald Trump is a gift to the Democrats. Hillary Clinton is bad, but he's making her look AMAZING.

[GiRTh]

I think Trump is doing OK.

[GiRTh]

Mods are letting HRC go off topic but not allowing Trump so much.

[AProducer'sWetDream]

I think Drumpf is doing OK.

Really? It's weird how different people view the same thing so differently. :laugh:

[GiRTh]

Really? It's weird how different people view the same thing so differently. :laugh:She needs to knock him out and she 's not doing that. She's not a good enough candidate to score points victories.

[Tom4784]

And he's back to bragging about himself.

[GiRTh]

Sher's right on this one. His tax plan is a disaster that has already happened.

[AProducer'sWetDream]

She needs to knock him out and she 's not doing that. She's not a good enough candidate to score points victories.

She doesn't really need to knock him out though. He's suffering enough damage outside the debates that she just needs to 'tread water'.

[GiRTh]

She doesn't really need to knock him out though. He's suffering enough damage outside the debates that she just needs to 'tread water'.I hope you're right but at the moment the polls are far too close.

[AProducer'sWetDream]

I hope you're right but at the moment the polls are far too close.

She's beating him in all the swing state polling though- and the democrats have an advantage with the electoral map. He has to do much better to win than she does, and at the moment she has a small lead.

[GiRTh]

Only 30 minutes to go. Still time for the knockout.

[GiRTh]

She's beating him in all the swing state polling though- and the democrats have an advantage with the electoral map. He has to do much better to win than she does, and at the moment she has a small lead.It should be bigger. Bernie would have slaughtered Trump,.

[AProducer'sWetDream]

I agree that HIllary's not doing well though- it's painful to watch. We can only hope Donald Trump gets tired and loses it in the last half an hour.

[AProducer'sWetDream]

It should be bigger. Bernie would have slaughtered Drumpf,.

If Bernie has been the nominee this would have been over months ago.

[Tom4784]

'Mr Trump, let me repeat the question.'

:clap1:

[Marsh.]

Does he ever actually answer a question or just continue to go off on tangents.

[GiRTh]

Trump disagreeing with Pence. That wont play well

[GiRTh]

Trumps now sounding insane.

[Northern Monkey]

I thought Hilary destroyed him on Tax,Not Sure on Healthcare,Hilary just admitted she will impose a no fly zone over Syria.Highly dangerous.As soon as Russia sends fighter jets up there the US would knock them out of the sky with jets or cruise missiles.WW3.Scary woman.

[bots]

its another biased debate and i would say trump has held up quite well given the circumstances, he is certainly not down and out

[GiRTh]

'Between twitter and facebook I have 25 million people'. :joker:

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

''Trump what will be your strategy for Syria''
''10 years ago Hillary Hillary...She.....she....''
''WHAT WILL BE YOUR STRAGEGY?''
''She she..nuh nuh nuh...''

''She goes 1 minute over and it's fine I go seconds over and it's a problem'' sounding like a child. IT'S BECAUSE SHE'S ACTUALLY ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS LIKE A LEADER AND NOT LIKE A COLLEGE KID LOOKING FOR TIT FOR TAT


SLAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY HILLARY

[GiRTh]

Points victory for HRc but it may not be enough.

[GiRTh]

its another biased debate and i would say trump has held up quite well given the circumstances, he is certainly not down and outPoised for Trump insulting Martha on Twitter.

[AProducer'sWetDream]

Well that was slightly depressing. That question at the end though :love:

Overall, I'd say Hillary won, but obviously I'm biased because I despise Trump. I think he avoided what could've been a complete disaster though.

[bots]

i would say trump won that debate, it was interesting that he got cheers as he took Clinton to task.

[Brother Leon]

Both their discussions on Policy was shockingly bad....NBC should just accept they are both trash and let them go at each other personally :joker:

[Maru]

Such a negative election. I think both proving to be bad for this country. I'm done. I've checked when early voting opens in TX and am just going to get it over with then... :bored:

As far as who won... I'd say Trump did do better this time around. He kept his hands up and deflected whatever she threw onto him back onto her. He is definitely running a campaign based more on public perception. I would say it was pretty close to a tie, but not real sure who "won" as both were very aggressive and pretty nasty. I think it only divides the country further to be honest and not looking forward to the media charade.

We didn't hear much about policy as much as we heard a lot of smack talk/dirt throwing onto the other person... Hillary was more articulate than him and therefore her responses flowed better, with some fluff, but more descriptive of her views... Trump did seem to bring up more specific answers to certain things compared to his last debate, especially with regard to their strategies abroad. He kinda babbled through a lot of his answers though and kept flipping through topics during his answers, kept avoiding the actual question. It was harder to keep up with his responses... but again... running on perception so it was really the confidence of his response that really matters... :) and the fact he kept her on her toes.

I give this Debate a C in terms of being informative and helping people to decide.

Whoever organizes these things should really consider bringing in Gary Johnson (who has 8% I think) into the debate... if for anything, for ratings... neither of their egos could handle a third wheel getting in-between them and their dysfunctional relationship. :laugh: They could use the soft center.

[rk3388]

Such a disgrace Trump Victimizing OIL INDUSTRIES and vilifying the EPA.
Almost as bad as him solving the 1% issue with lowering their taxes by 20%.
Or when questioned about Islamophobia, talking about how to deal with "Radical Islam"

A Trump Presidency would be an absolute disaster.

[arista]

i would say trump won that debate, it was interesting that he got cheers as he took Clinton to task.

Yes Massive Cheers.

Trump was far better on this debate.

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/10/10/04/article-3829975-394191FC00000578-447_964x516.jpg

[Northern Monkey]

I think Hilary speaks better.You can tell which one is the politician of the two.However saying that.To say he's not a politician Trump did very well to go toe to toe with Hilary.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I don't want you in charge of our laws...



DT: if I was you would be in jail

:laugh2:


Schooled

[Liberty4eva]

Anyone can see that Trump won big. The media are doing their best to manipulate perceptions but I don't think they will succeed.

[the truth]

'If I was president at that time, he'd be alive today'

How ****ing dare him.

its true...warmongering clinton has the blood of 1 million innocent deaths on her hands

[the truth]

Trump clearly won this debate, she was awful tonight.

[smudgie]

Trump still sniffing all the way through.
Wonder if it's to see if his bull**** smells plausible.

[the truth]

hes going to put her in jail

[Samm]

Hilary won again!

[arista]

hes going to put her in jail


How Nice

[Tom4784]

Again, Trump talking about Hillary's supposed crimes is so hypocritical, does it mean we can call him a child rapist since, unlike the allegations against Hillary, that case actually has a court date.

[Niamh.]

Again, Trump talking about Hillary's supposed crimes is so hypocritical, does it mean we can call him a child rapist since, unlike the allegations against Hillary, that case actually has a court date.

What??? How have I not heard about this? :o

[Tom4784]

What??? How have I not heard about this? :o

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-accused-underage-rape-lawsuit-a7352976.html

[Niamh.]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-accused-underage-rape-lawsuit-a7352976.html

wow and I actually thought I couldn't be shocked by him anymore. How is he almost the President, I just don't understand

[GiRTh]

wow and I actually thought I couldn't be shocked by him anymore. How is he almost the President, I just don't understandApparently there are more stores to come. An Exec producer on the Apprentice clams they've got far worse tapes than the one leaked over the weekend.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3829806/Was-Donald-Trump-caught-tape-saying-N-word-Former-Apprentice-producer-says-far-worse-footage-GOP-nominee-exists-s-unlikely-air-5M-fee.html

A bit surprised so many people are calling it an easy win for HRC. She won but it was much closer than the first debate. Looking at it I dont think Trump would beat many people in a one v one debate. The format really doesn't suit him. Trump showed again that he struggles with details and can barely keep to the same subject. At one point last night he started sentences saying the talk on the tape was 'guy talk' but ended the same setnence by saying he was gonna crush ISIS., How can anyone follow such random chains of thought :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Most of what I have read online and watched say Trump clearly won, he had the best lines and dodged a bullet

If Hilary cant bury him after the week just gone by?

Well I ask you

[GiRTh]

Most of what I have read online and watched say Trump clearly won, he had the best lines and dodged a bullet

If Hilary cant bury him after the week just gone by?

Well I ask youEither way it was close with neither candidate landing the knockout blow but as I said earlier I struggle to understand Trump when he speaks. He seems incapable of sticking to a topic and making his point, He did have the better zingers but HRC attempted to engage with the audience while Trump stood there criticising the moderators. I think HRC was definitely more rattled in the earlier exchanges but on policy Trump never makes sense so for me, I think he'd struggle to beat most politicians in a one v one debate.. Clearly your perception is different to mine but I do agree with the 2nd half of your post.

[arista]

wow and I actually thought I couldn't be shocked by him anymore. How is he almost the President, I just don't understand


You must understand he is a outsider
not part of the Political Corrupt Speak.

Many zones of USA
will Vote Trump
as they have no factory or work house.

I can see why
he has a chance

[arista]

I think Hilary speaks better.You can tell which one is the politician of the two.However saying that.To say he's not a politician Trump did very well to go toe to toe with Hilary.


Yes Corrupt Politician,
part of the wrong past.

[bots]

Apparently there are more stores to come. An Exec producer on the Apprentice clams they've got far worse tapes than the one leaked over the weekend.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3829806/Was-Donald-Trump-caught-tape-saying-N-word-Former-Apprentice-producer-says-far-worse-footage-GOP-nominee-exists-s-unlikely-air-5M-fee.html

A bit surprised so many people are calling it an easy win for HRC. She won but it was much closer than the first debate. Looking at it I dont think Trump would beat many people in a one v one debate. The format really doesn't suit him. Trump showed again that he struggles with details and can barely keep to the same subject. At one point last night he started sentences saying the talk on the tape was 'guy talk' but ended the same setnence by saying he was gonna crush ISIS., How can anyone follow such random chains of thought :joker:

Trump is a bit random in his speaking, he just wants to make sure he gets his points across. He doesn't have that many of them, so it repeats a lot :laugh: I really struggle with Clinton, because she doesn't mean a word she says, she is so false. Everything she spoke in detail about was rehearsed monologue that she didn't believe in at all. I cringe equally at both of them albeit for different things.

[GiRTh]

Trump is a bit random in his speaking, he just wants to make sure he gets his points across. He doesn't have that many of them, so it repeats a lot :laugh: I really struggle with Clinton, because she doesn't mean a word she says, she is so false. Everything she spoke in detail about was rehearsed monologue that she didn't believe in at all. I cringe equally at both of them albeit for different things.Totally agree about both candidates. :thumbs:

[Crimson Dynamo]

A democracy of 300m and they picked these two

[user104658]

A democracy of 300m and they picked these two

The idea of democracy is a sham, the majority of high profile politicians come from the same very small pool of people who all know each other. Various political dynasties in the US, the Eton elite kids in the UK, etc.

[Niamh.]

The idea of democracy is a sham, the majority of high profile politicians come from the same very small pool of people who all know each other. Various political dynasties in the US, the Eton elite kids in the UK, etc.

Indeed

[Northern Monkey]

Apparently there are more stores to come. An Exec producer on the Apprentice clams they've got far worse tapes than the one leaked over the weekend.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3829806/Was-Donald-Trump-caught-tape-saying-N-word-Former-Apprentice-producer-says-far-worse-footage-GOP-nominee-exists-s-unlikely-air-5M-fee.html

A bit surprised so many people are calling it an easy win for HRC. She won but it was much closer than the first debate. Looking at it I dont think Trump would beat many people in a one v one debate. The format really doesn't suit him. Trump showed again that he struggles with details and can barely keep to the same subject. At one point last night he started sentences saying the talk on the tape was 'guy talk' but ended the same setnence by saying he was gonna crush ISIS., How can anyone follow such random chains of thought :joker:That made me laugh but i don't think it was accidental.Just diversionary tactics that i don't think anyone else would've got away with.

[Alf]

Why were the moderators debating with Trump? wasn't it Clinton who was supposed to be debating? anyone would think these past two debates were bias.

[GiRTh]

That made me laugh but i don't think it was accidental.Just diversionary tactics that i don't think anyone else would've got away with.I agree it was diversionary but, even when he successfully pivots to his talking point, he cant articulate himself and his oratory skills are so lacking that it seems like he's going off onto random subjects. During the Primaries when there were over a dozen candidates on the stage his zinger approach to debating worked brilliantly but now that he has to explain himself, for me, he would struggle against anybody.

[bots]

Why were the moderators debating with Trump? wasn't it Clinton who was supposed to be debating? anyone would think these past two debates were bias.

both debates have been very biased in Clinton's favour, its the establishment protecting itself

[GiRTh]

both debates have been very biased in Clinton's favour, its the establishment protecting itselfTrump has led the media a merry dance for almost a year and it seems only now are they getting wise to it. He's banned publications from his rallies, criticized journalists on twitter and blatantly lied during interviews. The media are a little pissed off with him; you just need to watch CNN or MSNBC to see the hit pieces they're running on him pretty much all day. I doubt Trump, at this stage, could find a moderator that would give him what his supporters consider 'fair' treatment and I frankly think he only has himself to blame. He's lied too often and there are now few jouno's who are prepared to let hm get away with it anymore. Chris Wallace wlll be the next debate moderator and he has already stated he will not fact check so maybe his supporters will consider him a fairer moderator.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/chris-wallace-presidential-debate_us_57ccc67ce4b0a22de0967652

[the truth]

both debates have been very biased in Clinton's favour, its the establishment protecting itself

This is 100% true, its a disgrace. Even when asked about his muslim questioon
1) He said temporary shutdown, they took out the word temporary....Then he started answering , within 2 seconds the lady interrupted him, he gave a very straightforward answer, extreme vetting, sounds 100% plausible to me.

They ignored yet again the FACT she voted for the illegal Iraq war, where over 1 million innocents died, which basically created the vacuum and worse still, she then dropped off billlions of dollars of weapons which then fell into the hands of terrorists, thus ISIS was formed. She also allowed them to keep the oil, which funded ISIS to spread to 32 countries and 35,000 people killed worldwide last year? All this happened on he watch and many of the 33,000 emails related to the weapons she herself had supplied the so called rebels in the middle east.

Heres just some proof

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/08/politics/amnesty-international-isis-weapons-u-s-/

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/isis-iraq-syria-daesh-armed-dangerous-tanks-missiles-assault-rifles-1532420

Shes a complete psychopath

[the truth]

Trump has led the media a merry dance for almost a year and it seems only now are they getting wise to it. He's banned publications from his rallies, criticized journalists on twitter and blatantly lied during interviews. The media are a little pissed off with him; you just need to watch CNN or MSNBC to see the hit pieces they're running on him pretty much all day. I doubt Trump, at this stage, could find a moderator that would give him what his supporters consider 'fair' treatment and I frankly think he only has himself to blame. He's lied too often and there are now few jouno's who are prepared to let hm get away with it anymore. Chris Wallace wlll be the next debate moderator and he has already stated he will not fact check so maybe his supporters will consider him a fairer moderator.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/chris-wallace-presidential-debate_us_57ccc67ce4b0a22de0967652

no ones lies more than hilary, why doesnt she part fund her own campaign from her $250 million pot, so she can actually do her own thing instead of being a corporate lackey

[GiRTh]

no ones lies more than hilary, why doesnt she part fund her own campaign from her $250 million pot, so she can actually do her own thing instead of being a corporate lackeyI'm not gonna defend HRC my thoughts on her have been made clear in this election but the facts state other wise.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/debate-fact-check-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-229527

13 lies from Trump in last night debate two from HRC. Cant find the page for the first debate but as I recall that had the lie count at over 30 to Trump and about 4 to HRC. She lies too and I will never defend her but his lies are ridiculous. No journo who takes them selves seriously should allow hm to get away with it but that is only my personal opinion.

[bots]

I'm not gonna defend HRC my thoughts on her have been made clear in this election but the facts state other wise.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/debate-fact-check-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-229527

13 lies from Trump in last night debate two from HRC. Cant find the page for the first debate but as I recall that had the lie count at over 30 to Trump and about 4 to HRC. She lies too and I will never defend her but his lies are ridiculous. No journo who takes them selves seriously should allow hm to get away with it but that is only my personal opinion.

if the debates had been targetted at Hilary the way they were at Trump, the figures may have been more even.

[GiRTh]

if the debates had been targetted at Hilary the way they were at Trump, the figures may have been more even.That's possibly true. I do see some bias in the questioning but, particularly in the first debate, Trump had many chances to pivot to a talking point but instead walked right into the many traps HRC set for him.

[the truth]

That's possibly true. I do see some bias in the questioning but, particularly in the first debate, Trump had many chances to pivot to a talking point but instead walked right into the many traps HRC set for him.
cnn is a ted turner massively pro democratic channel, the debate was obscenely one sided

[Jack_]

This may well be the greatest tweet of all time

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[the truth]

This may well be the greatest tweet of all time

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trump just thought about shagging the chair, bill clinton did it:dance:

[Northern Monkey]

This may well be the greatest tweet of all time

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[Jessica.]

Here's a great clip from the debate
https://www.facebook.com/684233818337530/videos/1141689409258633/

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

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[the truth]

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True

[Brother Leon]

Let's not forget her personal attack on Bernie supporters. Those same supporters who are suddenly expected to support her now, just because.

[erinp5]

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[Jack_]

Here's an interesting video demonstrating the power of 'anti-establishment' movements like Trump's in communities that have been left behind:

Donald Trump was more popular in McDowell County than anywhere else in America during the Republican primaries. Paul Lewis explores the power of the Republican presidential nominee’s message in the poorest county of West Virginia

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2016/oct/12/west-virginia-donald-trump-supporters-mcdowell-county-poverty-video

Capitalism at its bleakest

[GiRTh]

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Bill-O actually making sense now Big Daddy Roger Ailes has gone..

[Maru]

...the SNL interpretation of this debate... Soo funny

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Here’s the SNL sketch that finally went too far for Donald Trump
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/16/heres-the-snl-that-finally-went-too-far-for-donald-trump/

The vice president/trump sexual scandal interview one is funny too...

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[rk3388]

I barely see any posts here about policy. Can someone please name me any policies during the debate of Trump's that are superior to what Clinton was proposing? Not trying to bait, just trying to view things from a different perspective and hear anything other than Hillary's emails (let's not forget Trump has over 3,500 lawsuits against him - the man is not innocent either)