Armchair detectives - True crime Discussions

[Niamh.]

Anyone interested in True Crime documentaries and discussing cases?

This was a suggestion for one from Ammi

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2380247/

[Ammi]

https://67.media.tumblr.com/724b4c1596b7d153ec3efc106d2371d6/tumblr_o0el8fc8Up1tgwr5xo1_r1_400.gif



...(I might start watching that one later if I get time...:pipe:..)...

[Niamh.]

I should be able to watch it tomorrow evening, Gav is out at his course Tuesdays and Thursdays so i'll have free reign over the TV :hee:

[Ammi]

...I didn't get time yesterday so I'll try to watch it this evening as well...

[Niamh.]

I'm going to watch tonight too

[Crimson Dynamo]

I should be able to watch it tomorrow evening, Gav is out at his course Tuesdays and Thursdays so i'll have free reign over the TV :hee:

So you finally let him do the Latin Dancing then?

[Niamh.]

So you finally let him do the Latin Dancing then?

Next he'll be moving into a cottage with his Boss :hee:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Next he'll be moving into a cottage with his Boss :hee:

:fist:

I got into trouble yesterday for telling him i dont think she is coming back

:worry:

[Niamh.]

:fist:

I got into trouble yesterday for telling him i dont think she is coming back

:worry:

Why? Sounds like he doesn't even like her much from what you said :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Why? Sounds like he doesn't even like her much from what you said :laugh:

He is "still trying to stay positive" but i fear it is denial and conflict avoidance

[Niamh.]

He is "still trying to stay positive" but i fear it is denial and conflict avoidance

Yeah but maybe splitting up is the positive route if they were both so unhappy with their relationship?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yeah but maybe splitting up is the positive route if they were both so unhappy with their relationship?

Yes I think so, anyway he is coming up to stay for the weekend in 2 weeks so i will have a better idea of what is going on then, and he is cooking a meal for the TL!

[Niamh.]

Yes I think so, anyway he is coming up to stay for the weekend in 2 weeks so i will have a better idea of what is going on then, and he is cooking a meal for the TL!

I think with these things it's like trying to break a bad habit, when you're with someone for so long it's scary imagining trying to live without them even if you're miserable there, atleast he can see there's life after a break up when he sees you and the TL :laugh:

[Marsh.]

I should be able to watch it tomorrow evening, Gav is out at his course Tuesdays and Thursdays so i'll have free reign over the TV :hee:

TV. :smug:

Is that my new nickname? :fan:

[Niamh.]

TV. :smug:

Is that my new nickname? :fan:

ssshhhhh

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think with these things it's like trying to break a bad habit, when you're with someone for so long it's scary imagining trying to live without them even if you're miserable there, atleast he can see there's life after a break up when he sees you and the TL :laugh:

:nono:

there will be no 3-way

filth

[Niamh.]

:nono:

there will be no 3-way

filth

Take your mind out of the gutter :nono:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Take your mind out of the gutter :nono:

Marsh started it :fist:

[Marsh.]

Wait, is LT engaged in an extramarital affair with his boss?

:omgno:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Wait, is LT engaged in an extramarital affair with his boss?

:omgno:

http://i.imgur.com/qUDIQwQ.gif

[Niamh.]

Watched it last night

Horrendous crime and horrendous that those boys were charged on literally no evidence. It's scary how easily they can get convictions on pretty much just these dodgy confessions. Seems like a recurring factor in the last 3 cases we looked at, in all the cases the people who confessed were virtually kids and they all said the same thing, they were told confess and you get to go home, it's disgraceful really that they were allowed to get away with that type of integration on children. It's a shame that the woman lost her memory of that night, she could have put a stop to it straight away (well it's good for her that she couldn't remember but not those boys)

One thing that stuck out to me though which I found interesting and an odd look into the mind of the guy who actually did it was how he seemed to have so much empathy towards those boys and how he was so incensed that the cops etc didn't "do the right thing"........this coming from a man who was responsible for killing and brutalising women in such a violent way? Are they not real people also or what? weird.

ETA : Donald Trumps appearance in the Documentary too and this is the guy who could be running America soon :worry:

[James]

Did you ever watch this documentary about the Michael Peterson case? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soupçons

It was shown on the BBC's Storyville series. I thought it was a fascinating documentary. I haven't really watched any of the other true crime documentaries recently.

[Niamh.]

Did you ever watch this documentary about the Michael Peterson case? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soupçons

It was shown on the BBC's Storyville series. I thought it was a fascinating documentary. I haven't really watched any of the other true crime documentaries recently.

Oh no, I never heard of that one. We might do that next though, it looks interesting.

Didn't you watch Making a Murderer James? That ones was really good

[James]

Oh no, I never heard of that one. We might do that next though, it looks interesting.

Didn't you watch Making a Murderer James? That ones was really good

I haven't seen it, but everyone's talking about it. Is it only on Netflix?

[Niamh.]

I haven't seen it, but everyone's talking about it. Is it only on Netflix?

Well Netflix made it so probably. There's going to be a second one on it aswell. It's a bizarre case

[Niamh.]

This is an update on their lawsuit as it hadn't been resolved at the end of the documentary

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/06/nyregion/41-million-settlement-for-5-convicted-in-jogger-case-is-approved.html?_r=0

[Ammi]

Watched it last night

Horrendous crime and horrendous that those boys were charged on literally no evidence. It's scary how easily they can get convictions on pretty much just these dodgy confessions. Seems like a recurring factor in the last 3 cases we looked at, in all the cases the people who confessed were virtually kids and they all said the same thing, they were told confess and you get to go home, it's disgraceful really that they were allowed to get away with that type of integration on children. It's a shame that the woman lost her memory of that night, she could have put a stop to it straight away (well it's good for her that she couldn't remember but not those boys)

One thing that stuck out to me though which I found interesting and an odd look into the mind of the guy who actually did it was how he seemed to have so much empathy towards those boys and how he was so incensed that the cops etc didn't "do the right thing"........this coming from a man who was responsible for killing and brutalising women in such a violent way? Are they not real people also or what? weird.

ETA : Donald Trumps appearance in the Documentary too and this is the guy who could be running America soon :worry:


...another recurring factor seems to be because of how brutal the crime, there is a 'need to get this solved quickly' and they had them and they had them in for questioning because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time while all of the mob stuff was going on that night...it's such a sad story and not just their wrongful imprisonment for those years but also because of the nature of the crime they had been convicted of...that they were on the sex offenders list so couldn't even start a new life when they were released and one of them felt his only option was drug dealing...


...this really struck me right at the beginning...'the most endangered species in America was the young black man'..because it really wasn't that long ago and race seemed to play such a part..the case with the young black women who was raped and thrown off a building but that barely being reported in comparison to this because it was a white woman...ao yeah, the pressure on the police dept to make sure that someone/people were brought to justice very quickly and they had 5 young black men in their custody already.../frightening...they were barely children, how totally terrified they were...to the extent that they confessed, just to make it all end...:sad:...and they were determined it would be a guilty verdict in having the lady appear in court even though she had no memory of that night...what a brave lady though in her recovery..:love:..such a brutal crime...



..the other thing where you have to wonder race..?...is Steven Avery for instance and his first wrongful imprisonment and the media attention that seemed to have got...but with this, it was said how it was barely mentioned/their innocence proved and their release in comparison to how their 'guilt' and sentencing were reported...


..and yeah, Donald Trump...'maybe hate is what we need if we’re gonna get something done'...and this is someone who could become one of the most powerful world leaders.../just too scary...

[Ammi]

..I watched the first two episodes of James' recommendation yesterday...it's really intriguing and I like that it's a mini series as well, the same as Making of a Murderer because it's sometimes hard to fit two or so hours of watching in...it's also completely different in many ways/him being very wealthy..(Lord, legal costs in the USA..)...but also, the filming is being done with private conversations in his home as well through it all...

...I haven't read anything about the story so I don't know about outcomes yet and trying to resist looking anything up just yet but so far, so good James...thank you for that...:love:..



...I am finding it a bit hard to find links for the episodes though...

[James]

Where did you find the episodes? I noticed the first one was on Youtube.

[Ammi]

..I found the first episode on Vimeo and then the second one came up there as well, so I could just follow it on...but the third one isn't listed so I'll need to find a link again...it'll be so frustrating if I can't because I'm so intrigued now...:laugh:...(her injuries were horrific for a fall down stairs..)...

[Niamh.]

I'll try to watch a bit of that tomorrow evening when I get the Tv to myself

[Ammi]

..I watched the third episode last night...(it is a little difficult in finding links..)...but it's so different to anything else in that the camera crew were there through private times as well and basically following him around..it really is intriguing, I have no idea the outcome because I'm resisting looking atm until I've finished the whole series...

[Niamh.]

I never got a chance to watch it last night been really busy lately

[Niamh.]

Couldn't find a link for that one Ammi