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nodisharmony
04-03-2007, 07:30 PM
The Answer to JADE GOODY's situation.
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Jade Goody has been placed in a terrible situation.
She is fighting for her life and the chance to clear her name.
She has, just as much of a right, to be able to walk down the streets, where she lives or anywhere else and not have funny looks or people making nasty comments to her, wherever she is. It is a nightmare scenario to anyone, who has been placed in this situation.
Jade Goody's only mistake, was, to argue and make comments towards and Indian woman.
THAT IS IT!!!!!
If she had argued or made comments to an Italian man or woman, Jade Goody would be able to walk down any street and feel safe and secure.
Some people would run up to her and ask her for her autograph or have their picture taken next to her.
Today, everything is MUCH different.
If someone walks over to Jade, she will feel fear and worry. Especially if her children are with her.
If they are Asian or Indian, she would really feel threatened, even if they were being nice. She may feel that, one minute, they will be nice, Then next, they will turn and possible assault her. (This is a frightening way of living)
JUST TRY AND IMAGINE IT???
(Just for one minute!!!)
You could say that she deserves this??
But there is a simple argument on a reality show and then, there is mass hatred from England, India and elsewhere too.
All hating Jade Goody!! Except for a few, who understand the real truth, like myself!
SO, WHAT FOR JADE GOODY NOW!!!!
Here is the Answer:-
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The Answer to JADE GOODY's situation.
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A programme has to be made.
Similar to the "PANARAMA."
It must be both (shocking) and full of (information.)
The story of what happened on Celebrity Big Brother, January 2007 The real explanations.
Using past series of Big Brother, where many other arguments have occured. Also, how people have left these shows, after arguing and nothing bad has happened.
Pointing out, that it was the RACE thing which has caused all this outrage.
Jade Goody does need to appear on the programme.
Showing how easy it is to be placed in this situation. She will have to be very exact and clear about every word she says on this programme. It has to be shocking and it has to change minds.
Look at the way the argument started in detail. Show how the Newspapers made the three girls look bad.
Even Jo O'Meara should be part of this.
Use an example of how a conversation can be edited.
Play a scene with two actors arguing over something small, and then edit parts out. Film it in three different rooms and just show, how, missing out one comment in a conversation, which was nasty, but later could cause two people to fall out.
Take the bullying angle and look at all Jade Goody's arguments on the January one and past reality shows too. Show how an argument is not just someone being a bully.
Many times, Jade Goody has made comments and many times, she is right. These housemates were liars.
Jade should prove each argument.
Then, she should look at the comments that she said that sounded, maybe racial? Take each step at a time. Show how her mother Jackyie, was evicted from the house, without even her shoes on. Not even being able to say goodbye to her mother. Jade Goody was very upset and in tears. This got to Jade and we all saw that.
Imagine if we did that to Shilpa Shetty? There would have been an outrage.
Cover every single solitary angle. Don't leave anything to chance. Make that programme an hour long, and leave no stone unturned until it is really that obvious that what has happened to Jade Goody is the most unjust thing imaginable.
Jade Goody could really prove to us all, that she is not a racist person and that she can walk down the streets and feel a little safer.
In this digital age, we have Youtube.com and that programme could be permanantly on there, after it is televised and the whole world could see.
It could be dubbed or subtitled in every language, so anybody who doesn't understand, will understand.
The media destroyed her temporarily and she is still in a mess. Now she needs to fight back and fight the media with TV She will make a difference and if this programme is done, just right.
It will make peace for Jade Goody.
Sophii3x
04-03-2007, 07:34 PM
Oh my goodness. You like to write lots don't you.
Tbh I couldn't care less about her anymore. Her name even gets on my tits.:rolleyes:
nodisharmony
04-03-2007, 07:43 PM
Also, she must show, all the stuff she has done, since being on "Big Brother 3".
So much stuff and how well she has done with her fitness video and her perfume and her beauty salon.
Every single thing. That Jade Goody has done, since she first appeared in Big Brother.
Show her nice side and look beyond the Big Brother show.
There is more to Jade Goody than the show and other reality shows. Not just arguments and nasty words.
She must be placed in the right light.
But, the main part, is the Racism. Jade Goody is not a racist and will have friends and associates who are not white.
Jade Goody can do this and make it big.
This is her only real chance and if she does this, which I am sure she will. It will make people realise that the media and politicians can corrupt people's minds into believing that a girl like Jade Goody is that bad, when she is NOT.
tinkerbell
04-03-2007, 08:28 PM
I dont even bother reading it lol
Mrluvaluva
04-03-2007, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by tinkerbell
I dont even bother reading it lol
me neither
Chrizzle
04-03-2007, 09:32 PM
The answer to the Jade Goody situation is, everyone has a different opinion on it. Thats it:thumbs:
Mrluvaluva
04-03-2007, 09:36 PM
Originally posted by Chrizzle
The answer to the Jade Goody situation is, everyone has a different opinion on it. Thats it:thumbs:
So profound.
nodisharmony
04-03-2007, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by Chrizzle
The answer to the Jade Goody situation is, everyone has a different opinion on it. Thats it:thumbs:
If it helps, I am glad for it to happen.
Why not!
If it is done, the comments and opinions of that show, will all be aired on this forum.
Nothing could ever change everyones opinion of Jade Goody. You simply can't please everyone. But something will be done and the media is the only place.
JADE GOODY KNOWS THIS.
Mrluvaluva
04-03-2007, 10:18 PM
JADE GOODY KNOWS THIS
JADE GOODY KNOWS **** ALL
spacebandit
04-03-2007, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by Sophii3x
Oh my goodness. You like to write lots don't you.
Tbh I couldn't care less about her anymore. Her name even gets on my tits.:rolleyes:
Its just a cut and paste troll - working from a script
:bored:
nodisharmony
04-03-2007, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by spacebandit
Originally posted by Sophii3x
Oh my goodness. You like to write lots don't you.
Tbh I couldn't care less about her anymore. Her name even gets on my tits.:rolleyes:
Its just a cut and paste troll - working from a script
:bored:
You are joking!! I have spent most of today on this forum.
I just answer questions, being a typist helps, so I can do it fairly quickly.
It all comes from my head and my heart.
But of course, you can think what you like?
I cut and paste NOTHING, except that newspaper article on Jo today.
nodisharmony
04-03-2007, 10:47 PM
Originally posted by BAZG
JADE GOODY KNOWS THIS
JADE GOODY KNOWS **** ALL
JADE GOODY DOESN'T KNOW YOU.
She's lucky there.....
tinkerbell
04-03-2007, 10:47 PM
Why are you here? Are they paying you to sit on here 24/7 ?
tinkerbell
04-03-2007, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by nodisharmony
Originally posted by BAZG
JADE GOODY KNOWS THIS
JADE GOODY KNOWS **** ALL
JADE GOODY DOESN'T KNOW YOU.
She's lucky there.....
How do you she doesnt know him??......
do you know everything that goes on in Jades life? If you do tell her i said i hope she has diarrhea :joker:
just kidding lol
nodisharmony
04-03-2007, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by tinkerbell
Why are you here? Are they paying you to sit on here 24/7 ?
I am on here to support Jade Goody and the unfairness of her situation.
People are quite happy for Jade & her family to live in fear and most people have now distanced themselves from her and are too scared to speak out in her defence.
Sadly for all of you Jade-Haters.
I have arrived.
Y/S Nick nodisharmony
Mrluvaluva
04-03-2007, 10:53 PM
Originally posted by nodisharmony
Originally posted by BAZG
JADE GOODY KNOWS THIS
JADE GOODY KNOWS **** ALL
JADE GOODY DOESN'T KNOW YOU.
She's lucky there.....
She is bloody lucky she does not know me because I would put the b itch straight!
Mrluvaluva
04-03-2007, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by nodisharmony
[quote]Originally posted by tinkerbell
Why are you here? Are they paying you to sit on here 24/7 ?
I am on here to support Jade Goody and the unfairness of her situation.
People are quite happy for Jade & her family to live in fear and most people have now distanced themselves from her and are too scared to speak out in her defence.
Sadly for all of you Jade-Haters.
I have arrived.
THE MESSIAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tinkerbell
04-03-2007, 11:00 PM
nodisharmony your strong defence and constant Jade butt licking is not going to change anyones opinion, its more likely to back fire!
Mrluvaluva
04-03-2007, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by tinkerbell
nodisharmony your strong defence and constant Jade butt licking is not going to change anyones opinion, its more likely to back fire!
It is making me dislike her even more!
nodisharmony - you're trying to wind people up right?!
GiRTh
05-03-2007, 09:29 AM
Originally posted by nodisharmony
If someone walks over to Jade, she will feel fear and worry. Especially if her children are with her.
If they are Asian or Indian, she would really feel threatened, even if they were being nice. She may feel that, one minute, they will be nice, Then next, they will turn and possible assault her. (This is a frightening way of living)
JUST TRY AND IMAGINE IT???
(Just for one minute!!!)
You could say that she deserves this??
I am ABSOLUTELY disgusted by what you're trying to imply here. If you have something to say you need to come out and say it. Why would Jade feel threatened by Indian people? What are you trying to imply?
nodisharmony
05-03-2007, 09:59 AM
Originally posted by GRiT
Originally posted by nodisharmony
If someone walks over to Jade, she will feel fear and worry. Especially if her children are with her.
If they are Asian or Indian, she would really feel threatened, even if they were being nice. She may feel that, one minute, they will be nice, Then next, they will turn and possible assault her. (This is a frightening way of living)
JUST TRY AND IMAGINE IT???
(Just for one minute!!!)
You could say that she deserves this??
I am ABSOLUTELY disgusted by what you're trying to imply here. If you have something to say you need to come out and say it. Why would Jade feel threatened by Indian people? What are you trying to imply?
I am implying that Jade Goody recognizes that her behavior in the house has caused terrible offence to many of the Indian community, over here and in India too.
Her mother got attacked recently by men of an Asian background. I won't say they were not born here, but they were non-white.
There is unrest amongst many of the Indian community and it is easy to get scared, if Jade Goody was approached by someone who is Indian.
It is like going to London on a tube train and seeing an Iraqi or someone that looks like one.
If they had a suitcase or rucksack and they were looking shifty. People may assume the worst.
This has happened!!!
Jade Goody has got to try and clear her name first and then, she may feel safer.
This is not a nasty comment, just stating true facts of what someone would feel under these circumstances.
Mrluvaluva
05-03-2007, 10:04 AM
[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony
It is like going to London on a tube train and seeing an Iraqi or someone that looks like one.
If they had a suitcase or rucksack and they were looking shifty. People may assume the worst.
I use the tube every day and I do not assume the worse. This shows that she is always looking at the bad in people, and not the good.
tinkerbell
05-03-2007, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by nodisharmony
Originally posted by GRiT
Originally posted by nodisharmony
If someone walks over to Jade, she will feel fear and worry. Especially if her children are with her.
If they are Asian or Indian, she would really feel threatened, even if they were being nice. She may feel that, one minute, they will be nice, Then next, they will turn and possible assault her. (This is a frightening way of living)
JUST TRY AND IMAGINE IT???
(Just for one minute!!!)
You could say that she deserves this??
I am ABSOLUTELY disgusted by what you're trying to imply here. If you have something to say you need to come out and say it. Why would Jade feel threatened by Indian people? What are you trying to imply?
I am implying that Jade Goody recognizes that her behavior in the house has caused terrible offence to many of the Indian community, over here and in India too.
Her mother got attacked recently by men of an Asian background. I won't say they were not born here, but they were non-white.
There is unrest amongst many of the Indian community and it is easy to get scared, if Jade Goody was approached by someone who is Indian.
It is like going to London on a tube train and seeing an Iraqi or someone that looks like one.
If they had a suitcase or rucksack and they were looking shifty. People may assume the worst.
This has happened!!!
Jade Goody has got to try and clear her name first and then, she may feel safer.
This is not a nasty comment, just stating true facts of what someone would feel under these circumstances.
Why do u keep talking on her behalf?
You dont know what she thinks or feels, unless she is paying you to say it.
nodisharmony
05-03-2007, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by BAZG
[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony
It is like going to London on a tube train and seeing an Iraqi or someone that looks like one.
If they had a suitcase or rucksack and they were looking shifty. People may assume the worst.
I use the tube every day and I do not assume the worse. This shows that she is always looking at the bad in people, and not the good.
Many people are NOT worried when riding on a tube train.
I love the tubes and have also used the tubes for many years. I shall be on there in a months time.
When I am on there, I shall NOT be thinking about bombers, but it is at the back of all of our minds.
If I was sitting in a carriage and there was five people shouting, "There's a bomber on the train", people would panic and believe it!! suddenly, I would find myself worrying and believing.
There is nothing unusual about this.
and, there is nothing unusual about Jade Goody's thoughts right now. She will feel apprehensive towards Indian people. That is understandable, as, like I said.
She and the girls have accidentally offended many of them.
I never say (ALL) and I am quoting the obvious.
GiRTh
05-03-2007, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by nodisharmony
I am implying that Jade Goody recognizes that her behavior in the house has caused terrible offence to many of the Indian community, over here and in India too.
Her mother got attacked recently by men of an Asian background. I won't say they were not born here, but they were non-white.
There is unrest amongst many of the Indian community and it is easy to get scared, if Jade Goody was approached by someone who is Indian.
It is like going to London on a tube train and seeing an Iraqi or someone that looks like one.
If they had a suitcase or rucksack and they were looking shifty. People may assume the worst.
This has happened!!!
Jade Goody has got to try and clear her name first and then, she may feel safer.
This is not a nasty comment, just stating true facts of what someone would feel under these circumstances.
You're starting to show your true colours now.
Why is it significant that men of an Asian background attacked Jakiey? Why do you think some one of 'non-white' background would be more offended than a Caucasian person? Why would Jade be automatically scared if she was approached by an Indian person? She could be being approached by an Indian person who wanted to support her; when Jade was on "The Wright stuff" didn’t she say something about being approached by a black woman who was supporting her. Where is all fear that you’re talking about. I want facts or don’t mention it again.
Your comment about Iraqi’s is appalling. By the way, how would you know they were Iraqi’s, would it be the colour of their skin?
Mrluvaluva
05-03-2007, 10:49 AM
[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony
She will feel apprehensive towards Indian people.
She can't feel that aprehensive about Indian people. She has just been to India and, you know what, 'it's full of them.
nodisharmony
05-03-2007, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by GRiT
Originally posted by nodisharmony
I am implying that Jade Goody recognizes that her behavior in the house has caused terrible offence to many of the Indian community, over here and in India too.
Her mother got attacked recently by men of an Asian background. I won't say they were not born here, but they were non-white.
There is unrest amongst many of the Indian community and it is easy to get scared, if Jade Goody was approached by someone who is Indian.
It is like going to London on a tube train and seeing an Iraqi or someone that looks like one.
If they had a suitcase or rucksack and they were looking shifty. People may assume the worst.
This has happened!!!
Jade Goody has got to try and clear her name first and then, she may feel safer.
This is not a nasty comment, just stating true facts of what someone would feel under these circumstances.
You're starting to show your true colours now.
Why is it significant that men of an Asian background attacked Jakiey? Why do you think some one of 'non-white' background would be more offended than a Caucasian person? Why would Jade be automatically scared if she was approached by an Indian person? She could be being approached by an Indian person who wanted to support her; when Jade was on "The Wright stuff" didn’t she say something about being approached by a black woman who was supporting her. Where is all fear that you’re talking about. I want facts or don’t mention it again.
Your comment about Iraqi’s is appalling. By the way, how would you know they were Iraqi’s, would it be the colour of their skin?
It is very natural for someone who has been accused of racism, also looking at all the evidence which I have before me and I only state the truth.
That, Jade Goody would feel apprehensive of somebody with a different skin colour to white.
There is nothing unusual about this.
It is like a woman who has been raped. She might find it hard to trust men again.
I know you want to twist this into something very ugly, but if that is what you are trying to do
You are wasteing my time.
I have said what is very obvious and many would understand that and after what has happened to Jade Goody and what is happening right now. Jade would be suspicious and you have to understand that.
Many Indian people have said on news reports that they didn't consider Jade Goody as being racist, but there are many that do and as Jade Goody is not psychic, she will have to be a little cautious, but not too cautious.
I hope that clears that up!!
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This is NOT my opinion.
But, many people look at people on a tube train and do make assumptions of a particular person or race.
This does happen and myself personally, wouldn't be able to say whether someone is an Iraqi or not. But many people do. and do stir things up.
This is so obvious, I don't understand why you cannot grasp the situation.
People do the strangest of things and we don't all think alike.
nodisharmony
05-03-2007, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by BAZG
[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony
She will feel apprehensive towards Indian people.
She can't feel that aprehensive about Indian people. She has just been to India and, you know what, 'it's full of them.
That was a controlled situation.
She had entourage with her and hired protection too.
I am talking about, Jade on her own in a country called ENGLAND, "it's full of them" too.
And they are welcome!!!
GiRTh
05-03-2007, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by nodisharmony
It is like a woman who has been raped. She might find it hard to trust men again.
I feel almost physically sick that you've used that analogy. Is there no depth that you'll sink to inorder to defend Jade. Is she really worth all the effort to defend her. This comment has sickened me.:nono: You're losing credibility by the bucket load.
Mrluvaluva
05-03-2007, 12:06 PM
[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony
And they are welcome!!!
That's so nice of you!
GiRTh
05-03-2007, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by nodisharmony
It is very natural for someone who has been accused of racism, also looking at all the evidence which I have before me and I only state the truth.
That, Jade Goody would feel apprehensive of somebody with a different skin colour to white.
There is nothing unusual about this.
It is like a woman who has been raped. She might find it hard to trust men again.
I know you want to twist this into something very ugly, but if that is what you are trying to do
You are wasteing my time.
I have said what is very obvious and many would understand that and after what has happened to Jade Goody and what is happening right now. Jade would be suspicious and you have to understand that.
Many Indian people have said on news reports that they didn't consider Jade Goody as being racist, but there are many that do and as Jade Goody is not psychic, she will have to be a little cautious, but not too cautious.
I hope that clears that up!!
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This is NOT my opinion.
But, many people look at people on a tube train and do make assumptions of a particular person or race.
This does happen and myself personally, wouldn't be able to say whether someone is an Iraqi or not. But many people do. and do stir things up.
This is so obvious, I don't understand why you cannot grasp the situation.
People do the strangest of things and we don't all think alike.
You have completely skated over the point that on "The Wright Stuff" she mentioned that she'd received support from the "non-white" community. Surely that contradicts this life of fear that you claim she leads.
Originally posted by nodisharmony
Also, she must show, all the stuff she has done, since being on "Big Brother 3".
So much stuff and how well she has done with her fitness video and her perfume and her beauty salon.
Every single thing. That Jade Goody has done, since she first appeared in Big Brother.
Show her nice side and look beyond the Big Brother show.
being successful does not make her a nice person. She has a canny agent.
But, the main part, is the Racism. Jade Goody is not a racist and will have friends and associates who are not white.
You imply in another post that Jade will be nervous if anyone who is not white comes up to her. First of all I would like to know how you know what goes through Jade's head? Second of all, if that is indeed what jade thinks, then she is being prejudiced against non-whites.
Jade Goody can do this and make it big.
This is her only real chance and if she does this, which I am sure she will. It will make people realise that the media and politicians can corrupt people's minds into believing that a girl like Jade Goody is that bad, when she is NOT. [/quote]
nodisharmony
05-03-2007, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by GRiT
Originally posted by nodisharmony
It is like a woman who has been raped. She might find it hard to trust men again.
I feel almost physically sick that you've used that analogy. Is there no depth that you'll sink to inorder to defend Jade. Is she really worth all the effort to defend her. This comment has sickened me.:nono: You're losing credibility by the bucket load.
I just used an example. A very real example!
Jade Goody's situation is real and also
A NIGHTMARE!!
nodisharmony
05-03-2007, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by Ruth
Originally posted by nodisharmony
Also, she must show, all the stuff she has done, since being on "Big Brother 3".
So much stuff and how well she has done with her fitness video and her perfume and her beauty salon.
Every single thing. That Jade Goody has done, since she first appeared in Big Brother.
Show her nice side and look beyond the Big Brother show.
being successful does not make her a nice person. She has a canny agent.
But, the main part, is the Racism. Jade Goody is not a racist and will have friends and associates who are not white.
You imply in another post that Jade will be nervous if anyone who is not white comes up to her. First of all I would like to know how you know what goes through Jade's head? Second of all, if that is indeed what jade thinks, then she is being prejudiced against non-whites.
Jade Goody can do this and make it big.
This is her only real chance and if she does this, which I am sure she will. It will make people realise that the media and politicians can corrupt people's minds into believing that a girl like Jade Goody is that bad, when she is NOT. [/quote]
Jade Goody has been successful. There is NO doubt in anyones mind, there!
She will have a good agent!
Just like anything, you get what you pay for. Jade Goody doesn't mess around and wants to be known, loved, liked and make a bit of money and meet new people and have fun doing it.
A great life!
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You are missing the point about Jade Goody's fear of being approached by a non-white person.
I think that you need more clarification on this point.
Jade Goody will talk to anybody who is there in front of her. Whether they are white, black, brown or even in a green mask. ANYBODY!!
However. as she has apparently offended so many people from the Indian community, which is very evident.
If Jade Goody was out with her children and suddenly she saw two Indian men coming towards her, she would probably feel a little worried! That is very obvious!
My Girlfriends brother got bitten by a dog once.
He is now apprehensive of all dogs.
Can you understand this better now?
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The media can do almost anything to a celebrity, we all know that from past experiences.
Don't be naive....
mansi
05-03-2007, 08:46 PM
how could you compare that to jade's situation...? jade created this "nightmare" for herself
Mrluvaluva
06-03-2007, 09:28 AM
[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony
Jade Goody will talk to anybody who is there in front of her. Whether they are white, black, brown or even in a green mask. ANYBODY!!
Get her on this forum then for a Q & A session.
Dr43%er
06-03-2007, 10:01 AM
Nodisharmony said.
I cut and paste NOTHING
This is an out and out lie as the first post in this thread is word for word exactly the same as a post he made over at the now defunct
jadegoodyonline forums.
Dr 43%er
Originally posted by nodisharmony
When I am on there, I shall NOT be thinking about bombers, but it is at the back of all of our minds.
So now, you not only claim to know what Jade thinks, but also what everybody else thinks?
If I was sitting in a carriage and there was five people shouting, "There's a bomber on the train", people would panic and believe it!! suddenly, I would find myself worrying and believing.
There is nothing unusual about this.
Well obviously, people would be panicked if they were told that there was a bomber on there. But it's not something I would think about on a normal journey without scaremongers. As far as I know, you don't usually get five people standing up shouting that there is a bomber on there!
She and the girls have accidentally offended many of them.
Did she 'accidentally' say she wanted to headbutt Shilpa? Did she 'accidentally' call Shilpa a "f---ing loser" and a
"w---ker?" Did she accidentally call her "Shilpa Daroopa, Shilpa Poppadom?"
Originally posted by nodisharmony
Jade Goody has been successful. There is NO doubt in anyones mind, there!
She will have a good agent!
I didn't say she had not been successful.
Just like anything, you get what you pay for.
So the people who paid for Jade's fitness video are getting conned. They didn't pay for that.
You are missing the point about Jade Goody's fear of being approached by a non-white person.
I think that you need more clarification on this point.
Jade Goody will talk to anybody who is there in front of her. Whether they are white, black, brown or even in a green mask. ANYBODY!!
Please don't tell me what I need. I understand the point you are making perfectly - I just think it's completely wrong.
If Jade Goody was out with her children and suddenly she saw two Indian men coming towards her, she would probably feel a little worried! That is very obvious!
no it isn't - unless she has preconceived ideas about Indian people of course.
My Girlfriends brother got bitten by a dog once.
He is now apprehensive of all dogs.
Can you understand this better now?
Sigh.
I understand what you are saying. I disagree with it.
The media can do almost anything to a celebrity, we all know that from past experiences.
Don't be naive....
I'm not being naive. I know exactly what the media are capable of - they can make or break someone's career. However, Jade and co handed them the perfect opportunity to do so. If they had not behaved the way they did in the house, they would not be in the predicament that they are currently in. Stop trying to blame other people for what Jade, Jo and Danielle did. They chose to behave that way - they are the ones who have to deal with the consequences.
Btw, can I add that using the analogy of a rape victim to compare to jade's current situation is disgraceful?
Mrluvaluva
06-03-2007, 11:26 AM
[i]Originally posted by Ruth
Did she accidentally call her "Shilpa Daroopa, Shilpa Poppadom?"
And Shilpa ****awallah.
Hi Nodis:xyxwave: and my dear friend Dr:flowers:
Mrluvaluva
06-03-2007, 02:04 PM
[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony
Jade Goody's only mistake, was, to argue and make comments towards and Indian woman.
THAT IS IT!!!!!
If she had argued or made comments to an Italian man or woman, Jade Goody would be able to walk down any street and feel safe and secure.
Not entirely true. Do you actually know the meaning of the word "racism"? It is to do with RACE, not the colour of your skin! If, say, Tony Danza went in, and she referred to him as Tony pizzaface or whatever. I am sure a lot of Italians would be upset by this. Similarly, if she referred to Jackie Chan as Jackie egg fried rice, then she would upset the chinese community. Think about what you say before you say it.
GiRTh
06-03-2007, 02:08 PM
Lay off nodisharmony BAZ. Now that I know he hears voices I'm finding his posts highly amusing.
By the way, nodisharmony what do the voices in you head sound like. Is it a man's or a woman's voice. I've always wondered.
Mrluvaluva
06-03-2007, 02:15 PM
[i]Originally posted by GRiT
Lay off nodisharmony BAZ.
Ooooooh! Are you being "converted"? Judas! We better keep this on topic or we will get moaned at again.
spacebandit
06-03-2007, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by nodisharmony
It is like going to London on a tube train and seeing an Iraqi or someone that looks like one.
If they had a suitcase or rucksack and they were looking shifty. People may assume the worst.
So all Iraqi's are terrorists ?,
or "someone who looks like one", looks like what ?
arabic ?, of middle eastern descent
well thats certainly a catch all stereotype you are prepetuating, perhaps you think all Muslims are terrorists too - there is a certain kind who think that way.
Here you are perpetuating the myth that if they look a certain way - namely arabic, or of middle east descent they are terrorists.
franky, THAT .....I find racist.
true colours indeed.
Mrluvaluva
06-03-2007, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by spacebandit
Originally posted by nodisharmony
It is like going to London on a tube train and seeing an Iraqi or someone that looks like one.
If they had a suitcase or rucksack and they were looking shifty. People may assume the worst.
So all Iraqi's are terrorists ?,
or "someone who looks like one", looks like what ?
arabic ?, of middle eastern descent
well thats certainly a catch all stereotype you are prepetuating, perhaps you think all Muslims are terrorists too - there is a certain kind who think that way.
Here you are perpetuating the myth that if they look a certain way - namely arabic, or of middle east descent they are terrorists.
franky, THAT .....I find racist.
true colours indeed.
True. I do not look at "Iraqis or someone who looks like one" and think that, and I travel on the tube every day. Only a minority of people would do that Like Space says......................
nodisharmony
06-03-2007, 04:00 PM
Originally posted by mansi
how could you compare that to jade's situation...? jade created this "nightmare" for herself
Jade Goody was being a housemate on a reality show for her third time.
How was anybody to know what a furore this particular series could have caused
Jade was none the wiser
nodisharmony
06-03-2007, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by Dr43%er
Nodisharmony said.
I cut and paste NOTHING
This is an out and out lie as the first post in this thread is word for word exactly the same as a post he made over at the now defunct
jadegoodyonline forums.
Dr 43%er
My first post on this forum was answering questions to a news paper story.
A longer story which required a different approach.
Mrluvaluva
06-03-2007, 04:06 PM
[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony
My first post on this forum was answering questions to a news paper story.
A longer story which required a different approach.
???????????????????????? I'm lost. Somebody help me out!
nodisharmony
06-03-2007, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by Ruth
Originally posted by nodisharmony
When I am on there, I shall NOT be thinking about bombers, but it is at the back of all of our minds.
So now, you not only claim to know what Jade thinks, but also what everybody else thinks?
If I was sitting in a carriage and there was five people shouting, "There's a bomber on the train", people would panic and believe it!! suddenly, I would find myself worrying and believing.
There is nothing unusual about this.
Well obviously, people would be panicked if they were told that there was a bomber on there. But it's not something I would think about on a normal journey without scaremongers. As far as I know, you don't usually get five people standing up shouting that there is a bomber on there!
She and the girls have accidentally offended many of them.
Did she 'accidentally' say she wanted to headbutt Shilpa? Did she 'accidentally' call Shilpa a "f---ing loser" and a
"w---ker?" Did she accidentally call her "Shilpa Daroopa, Shilpa Poppadom?"
When I was on about the possible thoughts of people travelling in a tube train, it is quite understandable that many could feel that way.
The bombing of the London Underground was NOT that long ago
People DON'T usually stand up and cry BOMB on a tube train, but it could happen
______________________________________________
Talking about comments that were apparently or were said? I suggest that you find the story on the internet
Quote was apparently said and add that website link to this forum.
I am certainly NOT going to answer those questions to your sayso only.
______________________________________________
GiRTh
06-03-2007, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by nodisharmony
When I was on about the possible thoughts of people travelling in a tube train, it is quite understandable that many could feel that way.
The bombing of the London Underground was NOT that long ago
People DON'T usually stand up and cry BOMB on a tube train, but it could happen
______________________________________________
Talking about comments that were apparently or were said? I suggest that you find the story on the internet
Quote was apparently said and add that website link to this forum.
I am certainly NOT going to answer those questions to your sayso only.
______________________________________________
WHAT PLANET ARE YOU ON!!!!!!!
I don't understand any of this
waffle waffle waffle
Rhubarb Rhubarb Rhubarb
AND JADE GOODY KNOWS THIS!!
______________________________________________
Nonsense Nonsense Nonsense
Drivel Drivel Drivel
THERE IS A LOT OF HATE FOR JADE GOODY!!
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Tel me, what do the voices in your head sound like? Is it a man or a woman's voice? Does it sound like my SatNav?
Originally posted by nodisharmony
When I was on about the possible thoughts of people travelling in a tube train, it is quite understandable that many could feel that way.
The bombing of the London Underground was NOT that long ago
People DON'T usually stand up and cry BOMB on a tube train, but it could happen
I think we've gone into a wierd area here. Yes, of course it could happen. But you were saying (originally) that if a non-white person got onto the tube, everyone would feel nervous. That is an entirely different situation to five people standing up and shouting that there is a bomber on the tube. I wouldn't personally feel nervous about anyone due to their colour.
Talking about comments that were apparently or were said? I suggest that you find the story on the internet
Quote was apparently said and add that website link to this forum.
I am certainly NOT going to answer those questions to your sayso only.
How do I know that she said she wanted to headbutt Shilpa? The video is on YouTube. I'm not going to post a link to it on your sayso only.
How do I know she called Shilpa those names? Because I - and millions of other viewers - heard her say it! If you want to be deluded and imagine that Jade didn't say things which even she has admitted she said, that's up to you.
I'm certainly NOT posting any links on your sayso only.
besides which, those questions were rhetorical questions. They didn't really require an answer. The answer is that nobody accidentally calls anyone the names that Jade called Shilpa.
rayofsunshine
06-03-2007, 04:42 PM
Jade made her bed now she must lie in it. Stop with the coulda, shoulda, woulda crap.
Mrluvaluva
06-03-2007, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by rayofsunshine
Jade made her bed now she must lie in it. Stop with the coulda, shoulda, woulda c**p.
Are you Beverley Knight? lol
GiRTh
06-03-2007, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by BAZG
Originally posted by rayofsunshine
Jade made her bed now she must lie in it. Stop with the coulda, shoulda, woulda c**p.
Are you Beverley Knight? lol
PMSL Nice one:thumbs:
nodisharmony
06-03-2007, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by Ruth
Originally posted by nodisharmony
Jade Goody has been successful. There is NO doubt in anyones mind, there!
She will have a good agent!
I didn't say she had not been successful.
Just like anything, you get what you pay for.
So the people who paid for Jade's fitness video are getting conned. They didn't pay for that.
You are missing the point about Jade Goody's fear of being approached by a non-white person.
I think that you need more clarification on this point.
Jade Goody will talk to anybody who is there in front of her. Whether they are white, black, brown or even in a green mask. ANYBODY!!
Please don't tell me what I need. I understand the point you are making perfectly - I just think it's completely wrong.
If Jade Goody was out with her children and suddenly she saw two Indian men coming towards her, she would probably feel a little worried! That is very obvious!
no it isn't - unless she has preconceived ideas about Indian people of course.
My Girlfriends brother got bitten by a dog once.
He is now apprehensive of all dogs.
Can you understand this better now?
Sigh.
I understand what you are saying. I disagree with it.
The media can do almost anything to a celebrity, we all know that from past experiences.
Don't be naive....
I'm not being naive. I know exactly what the media are capable of - they can make or break someone's career. However, Jade and co handed them the perfect opportunity to do so. If they had not behaved the way they did in the house, they would not be in the predicament that they are currently in. Stop trying to blame other people for what Jade, Jo and Danielle did. They chose to behave that way - they are the ones who have to deal with the consequences.
Jade's fitness video was very successful and also, Jade's trainer who helped get Jade to lose her weight.
Got paid.
Nothing unusual really!
People generally want paying for their services. No use debating that.
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It is true, that in hindsight, Jade Goody certainly regrets the actions that she made against Shilpa Shetty.
This is very evident in all the interviews that Jade Goody did after leaving the house.
However, it doesn't take a genius to work out, that, if the victim had been (Cleo) it would not have ended up like this.
_____________________________________________
You disagree with my comments regarding Jade Goody's apprehentions
That is your priveledge to do so.
However, many would disagree with your opinion!
nodisharmony
06-03-2007, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by BAZG
[i]Originally posted by Ruth
Did she accidentally call her "Shilpa Daroopa, Shilpa Poppadom?"
And Shilpa ****awallah.
This comment has been looked at by the police
Endemol have sorted this
and just by the conclusion, that, NO prosecution has been made against Endemol or any other housemate.
It is safe to assume that there was NO law broken.
nodisharmony
06-03-2007, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by Nu
Hi Nodis:xyxwave: and my dear friend Dr:flowers:
Hello again!
Glad you are back.
A-TEAM (returns)
GiRTh
06-03-2007, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by nodisharmony
Jade's fitness video was very successful and also, Jade's trainer who helped get Jade to lose her weight.
Got paid.
Nothing unusual really!
People generally want paying for their services. No use debating that.
_____________________________________________
It is true, that in hindsight, Jade Goody certainly regrets the actions that she made against Shilpa Shetty.
This is very evident in all the interviews that Jade Goody did after leaving the house.
However, it doesn't take a genius to work out, that, if the victim had been (Cleo) it would not have ended up like this.
_____________________________________________
You disagree with my comments regarding Jade Goody's apprehentions
That is your priveledge to do so.
However, many would disagree with your opinion!
You called her just Jade a few time in your last post. Is the medication wearing off?
nodisharmony
06-03-2007, 05:08 PM
Originally posted by BAZG
[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony
Jade Goody's only mistake, was, to argue and make comments towards and Indian woman.
THAT IS IT!!!!!
If she had argued or made comments to an Italian man or woman, Jade Goody would be able to walk down any street and feel safe and secure.
Not entirely true. Do you actually know the meaning of the word "racism"? It is to do with RACE, not the colour of your skin! If, say, Tony Danza went in, and she referred to him as Tony pizzaface or whatever. I am sure a lot of Italians would be upset by this. Similarly, if she referred to Jackie Chan as Jackie egg fried rice, then she would upset the chinese community. Think about what you say before you say it.
Part of What you say is TRUE!!
RACE is not, "just skin colour!!"
BUT, Being a realist and assuming from your vertict.
I can only use the word for you, as, (naive)
_____________________
It would have had a totally different complection on the end result which Jade and the girls are experiencing today!
~Kizwiz~
06-03-2007, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by nodisharmony
I can only use the word for you, as, (naive)
You cant call someone naive, just because someone doesn't have the same opinion as you doesn't make them naive
nodisharmony
06-03-2007, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by spacebandit
Originally posted by nodisharmony
It is like going to London on a tube train and seeing an Iraqi or someone that looks like one.
If they had a suitcase or rucksack and they were looking shifty. People may assume the worst.
So all Iraqi's are terrorists ?,
or "someone who looks like one", looks like what ?
arabic ?, of middle eastern descent
well thats certainly a catch all stereotype you are prepetuating, perhaps you think all Muslims are terrorists too - there is a certain kind who think that way.
Here you are perpetuating the myth that if they look a certain way - namely arabic, or of middle east descent they are terrorists.
franky, THAT .....I find racist.
true colours indeed.
This actual situation was mentioned on the news.
A man of an Iraqi or Arab appearance was travelling on the tube and exactly what I quoted, did actually happen.
It is a racist view and people should NOT assume that.
Just like, people on this forum, assuming that Jade Goody is a racist and has a bullyish nature,
On & Off reality shows.
THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE ARE ASSUMING AND THAT IS WHY JADE GOODY IS IN THIS SITUATION!!
GiRTh
06-03-2007, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by nodisharmony
BUT, Being a realist and assuming from your vertict.
Is that 'Realist 'or 'racist'
I can only use the word for you, as, (naive)
_____________________
It would have had a totally different complection on the end result which Jade and the girls are experiencing today!
Incomprehensible drivel. There's a writer called William S Burroughs who's writing style is similar to yours he, however took loads of drugs. What's your excuse?
nodisharmony
06-03-2007, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by Ruth
Originally posted by nodisharmony
When I was on about the possible thoughts of people travelling in a tube train, it is quite understandable that many could feel that way.
The bombing of the London Underground was NOT that long ago
People DON'T usually stand up and cry BOMB on a tube train, but it could happen
I think we've gone into a wierd area here. Yes, of course it could happen. But you were saying (originally) that if a non-white person got onto the tube, everyone would feel nervous. That is an entirely different situation to five people standing up and shouting that there is a bomber on the tube. I wouldn't personally feel nervous about anyone due to their colour.
Talking about comments that were apparently or were said? I suggest that you find the story on the internet
Quote was apparently said and add that website link to this forum.
I am certainly NOT going to answer those questions to your sayso only.
How do I know that she said she wanted to headbutt Shilpa? The video is on YouTube. I'm not going to post a link to it on your sayso only.
How do I know she called Shilpa those names? Because I - and millions of other viewers - heard her say it! If you want to be deluded and imagine that Jade didn't say things which even she has admitted she said, that's up to you.
I'm certainly NOT posting any links on your sayso only.
besides which, those questions were rhetorical questions. They didn't really require an answer. The answer is that nobody accidentally calls anyone the names that Jade called Shilpa.
If you do not wish to post links, that is fine.
If you want me to answer questions, without evidence shown to people looking in on this forum
Whether members or NOT
Then I will pass at this point.
GiRTh
06-03-2007, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by nodisharmony
If you do not wish to post links, that is fine.
If you want me to answer questions, without evidence shown to people looking in on this forum
Whether members or NOT
Then I will pass at this point.
Is English your first language?
nodisharmony
06-03-2007, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by rayofsunshine
Jade made her bed now she must lie in it. Stop with the coulda, shoulda, woulda c**p.
When somebody has been placed in this situation, you really expect that person to do nothing?
There are some celebrities who just hide away and do nothing. Jade Goody is a fighter, I am afraid.
She is NOT going to just give up
Just going to India recently proves that.
Jade Goody had an argument and also a disagreement with the Bollywood actress, Shilpa Shetty.
The singer, Jo O'Meara & model Danielle Lloyd also found Shilpa to be an irrotant.
It is just the way things were. It was never about RACE it was just about, "not getting on".
nodisharmony
06-03-2007, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by kizwiz
Originally posted by nodisharmony
I can only use the word for you, as, (naive)
You cant call someone naive, just because someone doesn't have the same opinion as you doesn't make them naive
I had to use that word, as it is very obvious!
_________________________________
I like your pictures.
Lily Allen & the spinning spiral.
nodisharmony
06-03-2007, 05:33 PM
Originally posted by GRiT
Originally posted by nodisharmony
BUT, Being a realist and assuming from your vertict.
Is that 'Realist 'or 'racist'
I can only use the word for you, as, (naive)
_____________________
It would have had a totally different complection on the end result which Jade and the girls are experiencing today!
Incomprehensible drivel. There's a writer called William S Burroughs who's writing style is similar to yours he, however took loads of drugs. What's your excuse?
"Realist" check your dictionary!!
___________________________________________
Your other comment doesn't deserve a civil reply!!
So as I am only "civil"
a reply won't be made...
The_Hitman
06-03-2007, 05:40 PM
I dont think there is an answer to Jades problems.
==
She only has herself to blame.
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How about the time she kicked that dog, or when she bullied Sophie, or the argument that she had with Alex. Its not just going to disappear nodisharmony
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You cant pretend that Jade is not who she is.
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What about all the food she threw away to annoy everybody, what about the time she stole Geoffs clothes and made him cry just because she was bored and needed something to do?!!!!???
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What about that nodisharmony---------
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What about all those nasty evil things?
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:sleep:
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It seems to me that instead of taking Zad Goddy at vace value, youre intent on painting some sort of serene image from the few instances of good behaviour we have seen from her.
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? + ? = x -----------------------------------------------
Here's a new project for you. Jade sent it to me to give to you................
,,,,,..........................:elephant:
.................................................. .....
Paint us a nice big picture of all the evil nasty things she's done......
That should keep you busy for the year.
Lauren
06-03-2007, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by nodisharmony
"Realist" check your dictionary!!
Could you explain to us what realist means, please? :spin2:
GiRTh
06-03-2007, 06:05 PM
Originally posted by nodisharmony
I had to use that word, as it is very obvious!
I agree. It's obvious
_________________________________
I like your pictures.
Lily Allen & the spinning spiral.
A bona fide fruit and nutcase.:whistle:
~Kizwiz~
06-03-2007, 06:14 PM
Originally posted by GRiT
A bona fide fruit and nutcase.:whistle:
:puzzled: Me????
nodisharmony
06-03-2007, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by The_Hitman
I dont think there is an answer to Jades problems.
==
She only has herself to blame.
-----------------------------------------------------------
How about the time she kicked that dog, or when she bullied Sophie, or the argument that she had with Alex. Its not just going to disappear nodisharmony
###########################
############################
You cant pretend that Jade is not who she is.
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What about all the food she threw away to annoy everybody, what about the time she stole Geoffs clothes and made him cry just because she was bored and needed something to do?!!!!???
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What about that nodisharmony---------
-----------------------------------------------------------
What about all those nasty evil things?
-----------------------------------------------
:sleep:
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It seems to me that instead of taking Zad Goddy at vace value, youre intent on painting some sort of serene image from the few instances of good behaviour we have seen from her.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
? + ? = x -----------------------------------------------
Here's a new project for you. Jade sent it to me to give to you................
,,,,,..........................:elephant:
.................................................. .....
Paint us a nice big picture of all the evil nasty things she's done......
That should keep you busy for the year.
One minute, your banned temporarily from posting to this forum.
Now
You're saying that Jade Goody is all bad?
_____________________________________________
You make comments from what you witnessed on three reality shows.
Whether Jade Goody was playing to the cameras or not, only Jade Goody and maybe her family & close friends and associates could say.
Jade Goody came over very badly on these shows.
I won't deny that!!!!
I also, don't blame people for judgeing her for that either.
She does come across like this on these reality shows and that is one of the reasons that she is in this situation today.
Jade Goody IS very sorry for the offence she may have caused. That is FACT, as it has been shown on the TV
However, everything which happened on the first two reality shows where she was a housemate, has actually placed her in her current and very good financial position.
She is NEVER out of the media and is a girl who is still wanted today. SADLY for the worst reasons.
What happened on the January's show, is completely different! This was about RACISM. Bullying was not the main reason but it was the second main reason.
However, as her bullying to an Indian woman was displayed, it has been deemed racial and this is the main problem which Jade Goody is addressing now.
The_Hitman
06-03-2007, 07:04 PM
Well done, you didnt address ONE SINGLE THING in my post, you just cut and pasted one of your other rants.
Mrluvaluva
06-03-2007, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by nodisharmony
Originally posted by BAZG
[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony
Jade Goody's only mistake, was, to argue and make comments towards and Indian woman.
THAT IS IT!!!!!
If she had argued or made comments to an Italian man or woman, Jade Goody would be able to walk down any street and feel safe and secure.
Not entirely true. Do you actually know the meaning of the word "racism"? It is to do with RACE, not the colour of your skin! If, say, Tony Danza went in, and she referred to him as Tony pizzaface or whatever. I am sure a lot of Italians would be upset by this. Similarly, if she referred to Jackie Chan as Jackie egg fried rice, then she would upset the chinese community. Think about what you say before you say it.
Part of What you say is TRUE!!
RACE is not, "just skin colour!!"
BUT, Being a realist and assuming from your vertict.
I can only use the word for you, as, (naive)
_____________________
It would have had a totally different complection on the end result which Jade and the girls are experiencing today!
Naive am I? How do you come to that conclusion? If you want to describe someone in a single word, I can think of some for you:
Obsessive
Repetitive
Speculative
Montonous
Unfounded
Pathetic
Racist
Over to you maestro.
Red Moon
06-03-2007, 07:13 PM
General Points from reading this thread:
1. Avoid using words in all capitial letters as this oftern offends other posters.
2. Avoid making posts which include comments about other members, keep your opinions of other members to yourself.
3. Avoid belittling other members and name calling.
4. Avoid posts which as designed to offend other members or are designed to start a flame war between members.
5. Discuss only the issues and keep the subject on topic
Thanks for your help
Red
The_Hitman
06-03-2007, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by Red Moon
General Points from reading this thread:
1. Avoid using words in all capitial letters as this oftern offends other posters.
2. Avoid making posts which include comments about other members, keep your opinions of other members to yourself.
3. Avoid belittling other members and name calling.
4. Avoid posts which as designed to offend other members or are designed to start a flame war between members.
5. Discuss only the issues and keep the subject on topic
Thanks for your help
Red
How much more winding up does the nutter have to do before he gets a warning?
I got a warning on Sunday for being insulted. Lets have some equality if youre going to start barking out your ****ing orders.
rayofsunshine
06-03-2007, 07:18 PM
jade is that you?:whistle:
Mrluvaluva
06-03-2007, 07:30 PM
read your u2u messages H
Red Moon
06-03-2007, 07:32 PM
Originally posted by The_Hitman
How much more winding up does the nutter have to do before he gets a warning?
I got a warning on Sunday for being insulted. Lets have some equality if youre going to start barking out your ****ing orders.
You don't know how close you came for a third warning for that post.
My comments were designed to give some guidelines about posting - before I do start issuing warnings.
Red
James
06-03-2007, 07:44 PM
To be honest these two Jade threads aren't going anywhere, other than round in circles. Everyone has had their say I think.
They should probably be locked.
The_Hitman
06-03-2007, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by Red Moon
Originally posted by The_Hitman
How much more winding up does the nutter have to do before he gets a warning?
I got a warning on Sunday for being insulted. Lets have some equality if youre going to start barking out your ****ing orders.
You don't know how close you came for a third warning for that post.
My comments were designed to give some guidelines about posting - before I do start issuing warnings.
Red
Well lets see if I can get a bit closer then shall we.
Why dont you shove for ****ing website up your arse.
Red Moon
06-03-2007, 07:49 PM
Originally posted by The_Hitman
Well lets see if I can get a bit closer then shall we.
Why dont you shove for ****ing website up your ****.
There you go..... warning issued
Topic Closed
Red
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