View Full Version : Illegal Migrants found in freezer lorry at M25 services
arista
07-10-2016, 02:15 PM
it was -25
in the back of the lorry
they started banging on the walls
alerting the Driver.
It came from Holland.
http://news.sky.com/story/suspected-migrants-found-in-freezer-lorry-at-m25-services-10608427
http://e3.365dm.com/16/10/206x116/431d1ad29d507c706ba523773b58408de6925fe55c3dc5e556 9aa5cde9df0d65_3802922.jpg?20161007131321
more problems for us tax payers
Northern Monkey
07-10-2016, 02:22 PM
Just chillin.Send em back to Syria that'll warm em up:laugh:
Scarlett.
07-10-2016, 02:26 PM
just chillin.send em back to syria that'll warm em up:laugh:
hahaha its funny cause they'll die hahahahahahaha
Niamh.
07-10-2016, 02:29 PM
I feel so bad for these people, some of the photos that have been emerging from Syria the last week are so scary. We don't know how lucky we are to have been born this side of the world. And you can be sure if we weren't we'd be doing what we could to find a safer place for our families too
UserSince2005
07-10-2016, 02:36 PM
Just chillin.Send em back to Syria that'll warm em up:laugh:
lol made me chuckle.
Vicky.
07-10-2016, 02:53 PM
I feel so bad for these people, some of the photos that have been emerging from Syria the last week are so scary. We don't know how lucky we are to have been born this side of the world. And you can be sure if we weren't we'd be doing what we could to find a safer place for our families too
This x100
These people are scared for their lives, their childrens lives, have witnessed horrifying violence and so on, and for the general attitude to be 'just **** off to Syria or whatever..its heartbreaking really. I can guarantee EVERY one of us (by us I mean people living in the UK) would be doing whatever possible to get the hell out of here if we were unlucky enough to end up in the same situation as these people were in.
Scarlett.
07-10-2016, 02:57 PM
This x100
These people are scared for their lives, their childrens lives, have witnessed horrifying violence and so on, and for the general attitude to be 'just **** off to Syria or whatever..its heartbreaking really. I can guarantee EVERY one of us (by us I mean people living in the UK) would be doing whatever possible to get the hell out of here if we were unlucky enough to end up in the same situation as these people were in.
Exactly, I get why people are scared of refugees, but our fear is nothing compared to theirs, their country has been totally torn apart, and they have nowhere else left to go.
Northern Monkey
07-10-2016, 03:07 PM
hahaha its funny cause they'll die hahahahahahaha
No actually i was thinking more putting them in the refugee camps so they can come to Europe legally.
How many safe countries d'you reckon they passed through to get here?
They must get Benefits Britain on TV over there.
Northern Monkey
07-10-2016, 03:20 PM
This x100
These people are scared for their lives, their childrens lives, have witnessed horrifying violence and so on, and for the general attitude to be 'just **** off to Syria or whatever..its heartbreaking really. I can guarantee EVERY one of us (by us I mean people living in the UK) would be doing whatever possible to get the hell out of here if we were unlucky enough to end up in the same situation as these people were in.You know if they'd stayed in Turkey,Greece,Germany,France or whatever other countries they passed through they probably would'nt have been caught.
Northern Monkey
07-10-2016, 03:21 PM
Once they start leaving the first safe country they find in search of money they are economic migrants.
Once they start leaving the first safe country they find in search of money they are economic migrants.
that is true up to a point. There are however genuine cases where they have family members living in countries that are not the first entered, so its not always black and white. It is only illegals that try and enter the country via the back door, no one else has a reason to do that.
user104658
07-10-2016, 04:05 PM
that is true up to a point. There are however genuine cases where they have family members living in countries that are not the first entered, so its not always black and white. It is only illegals that try and enter the country via the back door, no one else has a reason to do that.
A huge part of the problem is also that (thanks to Empire!) many coming from Syria will already speak functional English, but are highly unlikely to know any other major European language. I can completely understand why they would be trying to get to countries where they will actually be able to function / find work / have any idea of what is going on around them.
This is an issue that native English speakers will never truly encounter in the world. No matter where you go in the world, you'll have easy access to English translations or be able to quickly find someone who speaks your language.
Vicky.
07-10-2016, 04:17 PM
Once they start leaving the first safe country they find in search of money they are economic migrants.
I do understand this too. I kinda feel though, maybe they fear violence in less 'tolerant' countries also. Turkey and such aren't that much safer than Spain, and I would think with what they have gone through..they are wanting to settle somewhere they know is safe. or something.
Either way I can't get with the 'send em back' attitude as I feel a lot of empathy for these people.
Though I do totally understand where people are coming from with the fear of attack from terrorists posing as refugees stuff too.
Jack_
07-10-2016, 04:18 PM
I feel so bad for these people, some of the photos that have been emerging from Syria the last week are so scary. We don't know how lucky we are to have been born this side of the world. And you can be sure if we weren't we'd be doing what we could to find a safer place for our families too
Yeah but they're brown people so who cares
Crimson Dynamo
07-10-2016, 04:21 PM
I feel so bad for these people, some of the photos that have been emerging from Syria the last week are so scary. We don't know how lucky we are to have been born this side of the world. And you can be sure if we weren't we'd be doing what we could to find a safer place for our families too
These men are not Syrian refugees they are economic illegal migrants
Crimson Dynamo
07-10-2016, 04:21 PM
Yeah but they're brown people so who cares
pathetic
Jack_
07-10-2016, 04:22 PM
You're right, it is pathetic that white people's lives are worth more
Crimson Dynamo
07-10-2016, 04:23 PM
You're right, it is pathetic that white people's lives are worth more
:sleep:
Jack_
07-10-2016, 04:24 PM
I agree, latent racism is tiresome
Crimson Dynamo
07-10-2016, 04:27 PM
I agree, latent racism is tiresome
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/10/07/14/393134B800000578-3827051-image-m-74_1475848147004.jpg
I think referring to these young men as "brown" would tend to suggest that you may need to look in the mirror to see a real racist
Jack_
07-10-2016, 04:32 PM
If you didn't catch the blatant sarcasm in my post, that's not my problem mate
Johnnyuk123
07-10-2016, 04:45 PM
It is totally understandable to flee a war torn country to find safety for you and your family. No ones is arguing that fact at all. The issue is that as soon as they enter the first safe country they don't want to stay there. Instead they continue to pass through safe country after safe country, many many countries in fact with one goal in mind... to get to Great Britain. And you would have to be blind not to see why they do that and it is foolish to think that this is acceptable.
Crimson Dynamo
07-10-2016, 04:48 PM
It is totally understandable to flee a war torn country to find safety for you and your family. No ones is arguing that fact at all. The issue is that as soon as they enter the first safe country they don't want to stay there. Instead they continue to pass through safe country after safe country, many many countries in fact with one goal in mind... to get to Great Britain. And you would have to be blind not to see why they do that and it is foolish to think that this is acceptable.
Yes its like if there was a war in the UK and a truck load of lads ended up in Syria saying they are fleeing war - the locals would be like "aye right, f right off back to where you came from"
A huge part of the problem is also that (thanks to Empire!) many coming from Syria will already speak functional English, but are highly unlikely to know any other major European language. I can completely understand why they would be trying to get to countries where they will actually be able to function / find work / have any idea of what is going on around them.
This is an issue that native English speakers will never truly encounter in the world. No matter where you go in the world, you'll have easy access to English translations or be able to quickly find someone who speaks your language.
An awful lot of the arab and african countries speak fluent french, yet they are all busy trying to get out of there and in to the uk :shrug:
arista
07-10-2016, 10:01 PM
[An awful lot of the arab and african countries speak fluent french, yet they are all busy trying to get out of there and in to the uk ]
Yes we have far to many Illegals
already
Withano
07-10-2016, 10:40 PM
[An awful lot of the arab and african countries speak fluent french, yet they are all busy trying to get out of there and in to the uk ]
Yes we have far to many Illegals
already
We have lots of spare room :) more the merrier. Who cares what language they speak as long as theyre safe.
Worth saying I think that there's nothing to say that these were Syrians and illegal migration has long predated the Syrian conflict
Just chillin.Send em back to Syria that'll warm em up:laugh:
That's so gross
Just chillin.Send em back to Syria that'll warm em up:laugh:
gross
arista
07-10-2016, 11:16 PM
We have lots of spare room :) more the merrier. Who cares what language they speak as long as theyre safe.
They are Illegal.
arista
07-10-2016, 11:18 PM
They came From Iran , Iraq and Syria
one is in Hospital.
one is a 13 year old lad.
Ref : ITV1 London News
Northern Monkey
08-10-2016, 12:51 AM
'That's so gross'
'gross'
You obviously did'nt read the rest of the thread
Niamh.
08-10-2016, 01:32 AM
Yeah but they're brown people so who cares
mmhhmm I'm so sad I'm a part of this rotten part of history
...there shouldn't be 'illegal' in humanity...go back and make yourself legal before you come knocking on our door for refuge...it's like someone turning up on our doorsteps, bleeding or whatever and saying...how it that you went past that door or that door to knock here, rather than help that person...I just don't get it...who knows why it's this country but it's missing the point of why the refuge is needed in the first place because to flip it around..these poor people have bypassed other countries where they could have had less risk to their lives...I do understand fear but the thing is, that fear starts to lose focus of what people in parts of the world are going through/what their daily lives are and in being fearful of 'young men' it loses focus of women and children../families...one of them was a 13yr old child, some were between 15yrs and 17yrs old...one elderly man suffered a fit and they were all suffering hypothermia...and they would take those risks just to claim benefits or something because maybe they watch Benefit Street while they watch friends/family/neighbours die....?...and think oh I'll have a little bit of that...
..and to be harshly blunt as well, it's really sometimes hard not to think prejudice because in cases of police brutality and killings of ethnic minorities, it's sometimes said ..stop judging, you don't know the whole facts and it's media portrayal...but this is exactly the same, it's judging and media portrayal and we don't know the facts of why it's the UK that refuge is sought...but the 'common factor' though is 'not the same skin colour' so not the same understandings/empathy and not the same humanity...and we only really have the 'luxury' of judgement and prejudice because of where our parents lived in the world...we moan and groan (encouraged by the media)...of so many in the UK claiming benefits and being so harsh on them because of it/they shouldn't be/they're not entitles to and all of those things that are thrown out...until it comes to those old overseas immigrants and then it's all ours, don't you know...we need to be looking out for own../our own that we often say aren't entitled and manipulating a system...
..the world sucks sometimes...
Northern Monkey
08-10-2016, 07:53 AM
...there shouldn't be 'illegal' in humanity...go back and make yourself legal before you come knocking on our door for refuge...it's like someone turning up on our doorsteps, bleeding or whatever and saying...how it that you went past that door or that door to knock here, rather than help that person...I just don't get it...who knows why it's this country but it's missing the point of why the refuge is needed in the first place because to flip it around..these poor people have bypassed other countries where they could have had less risk to their lives...I do understand fear but the thing is, that fear starts to lose focus of what people in parts of the world are going through/what their daily lives are and in being fearful of 'young men' it loses focus of women and children../families...one of them was a 13yr old child, some were between 15yrs and 17yrs old...one elderly man suffered a fit and they were all suffering hypothermia...and they would take those risks just to claim benefits or something because maybe they watch Benefit Street while they watch friends/family/neighbours die....?...and think oh I'll have a little bit of that...
..and to be harshly blunt as well, it's really sometimes hard not to think prejudice because in cases of police brutality and killings of ethnic minorities, it's sometimes said ..stop judging, you don't know the whole facts and it's media portrayal...but this is exactly the same, it's judging and media portrayal and we don't know the facts of why it's the UK that refuge is sought...but the 'common factor' though is 'not the same skin colour' so not the same understandings/empathy and not the same humanity...and we only really have the 'luxury' of judgement and prejudice because of where our parents lived in the world...we moan and groan (encouraged by the media)...of so many in the UK claiming benefits and being so harsh on them because of it/they shouldn't be/they're not entitles to and all of those things that are thrown out...until it comes to those old overseas immigrants and then it's all ours, don't you know...we need to be looking out for own../our own that we often say aren't entitled and manipulating a system...
..the world sucks sometimes...The thing is.Sad though it is.There's an awful awful lot of people who want to come here.There's even been people from South America been found amongst all these immigrants,People from all over Africa and all over the Middle East aswell as refugees.
You can't just have an open door.There has to be a system in place to process these people and find places for them all accross Europe and there should be Arab countries helping too.This is why Cameron said he would take them directly from the refugee camps.If there were no system in place the whole thing would collapse.Alot of these people are being taken advantage of by people smuggling rackets charging them alot of money to go on a dangerous journey that they might not make alive.This has to be discouraged.
I think we should be taking more genuine refugees but they have to be taken from the refugee camps and processed properly so we can know that they're not just economic migrants trying their luck because they think Britain is a soft touch.Do you not think it's strange that alot of these people supposedly fleeing for their life are'nt greatful just to be in a safe country?I know i would be.That is why the systems need to be in place because by the time they've managed to reach Britain it's gone past that stage of just wanting to be safe.I would bet many of these people are'nt Syrian or refugees even if some are but you can't distinguish between the genuine cases unless they're processed properly.
Crimson Dynamo
08-10-2016, 07:56 AM
Just process them and deport them, rules are rules and they are there for a very important reason.
The thing is.Sad though it is.There's an awful awful lot of people who want to come here.There's even been people from South America been found amongst all these immigrants,People from all over Africa and all over the Middle East aswell as refugees.
You can't just have an open door.There has to be a system in place to process these people and find places for them all accross Europe and there should be Arab countries helping too.This is why Cameron said he would take them directly from the refugee camps.If there were no system in place the whole thing would collapse.Alot of these people are being taken advantage of by people smuggling rackets charging them alot of money to go on a dangerous journey that they might not make alive.This has to be discouraged.
I think we should be taking more genuine refugees but they have to be taken from the refugee camps and processed properly so we can know that they're not just economic migrants trying their luck because they think Britain is a soft touch.Do you not think it's strange that alot of these people supposedly fleeing for their life are'nt greatful just to be in a safe country?I know i would be.That is why the systems need to be in place because by the time they've managed to reach Britain it's gone past that stage of just wanting to be safe.I would bet many of these people are'nt Syrian or refugees even if some are but you can't distinguish between the genuine cases unless they're processed properly.
...but even with economic migrants though..it's still that their country can't offer them any quality of life because of the volatile situations in their countries, there is no employment/no quality of medical care etc to be had either so just a really shabby existence of hopelessness....and isn't that something that many UK citizens have also very often done in other countries that they've emigrated to or do emigrate to...because they work and work and work but in another country they can achieve things and a quality of life that would be impossible here for various reasons...and we don't have to endure anything resembling what people in some countries have to...but many still striving some kind of life quality../economic reasons...
Northern Monkey
08-10-2016, 08:29 AM
...but even with economic migrants though..it's still that their country can't offer them any quality of life because of the volatile situations in their countries, there is no employment/no quality of medical care etc to be had either so just a really shabby existence of hopelessness....and isn't that something that many UK citizens have also very often done in other countries that they've emigrated to or do emigrate to...because they work and work and work but in another country they can achieve things and a quality of life that would be impossible here for various reasons...and we don't have to endure anything resembling what people in some countries have to...but many still striving some kind of life quality../economic reasons...
But do you know how many millions if not billions of people are in poverty around the world?Our tiny island or even Europe could'nt accommodate every person on lower wages than us that wants to come here.It's totally unrealistic.Hence why countries have systems in place and migration policies.That is a much bigger problem of inequality between the rich and poor countries and corrupt governments.That is something that is a huge issue but that needs solving in the countries themselves.
But do you know how many millions if not billions of people are in poverty around the world?Our tiny island or even Europe could'nt accommodate every person on lower wages than us that wants to come here.It's totally unrealistic.Hence why countries have systems in place and migration policies.That is a much bigger problem of inequality between the rich and poor countries and corrupt governments.That is something that is a huge issue but that needs solving in the countries themselves.
..thing is though with many/most things...there is always reasons and logic why 'we can't' rather than focusing more attention to 'how can we make it possible'...obviously not to home every refugee seeking refuge but we only have control over what our help could be in possibilities..../anyways, because of my time clock, I'm always logging off just as many are logging on and catching up on threads...so I'm sorry I can't continue in conversation but I have to go now and you have a lovely day NM...:love:...
Northern Monkey
08-10-2016, 08:42 AM
..thing is though with many/most things...there is always reasons and logic why 'we can't' rather than focusing more attention to 'how can we make it possible'...obviously not to home every refugee seeking refuge but we only have control over what our help could be in possibilities..../anyways, because of my time clock, I'm always logging off just as many are logging on and catching up on threads...so I'm sorry I can't continue in conversation but I have to go now and you have a lovely day NM...:love:...
I mean i think we should be taking more genuine refugees and i think once we're out of the EU it will be possible to take even more.
You have a nice day too:)
kirklancaster
08-10-2016, 08:42 AM
Worth saying I think that there's nothing to say that these were Syrians and illegal migration has long predated the Syrian conflict
Good point.
...there shouldn't be 'illegal' in humanity...go back and make yourself legal before you come knocking on our door for refuge...it's like someone turning up on our doorsteps, bleeding or whatever and saying...how it that you went past that door or that door to knock here, rather than help that person...I just don't get it...who knows why it's this country but it's missing the point of why the refuge is needed in the first place because to flip it around..these poor people have bypassed other countries where they could have had less risk to their lives...I do understand fear but the thing is, that fear starts to lose focus of what people in parts of the world are going through/what their daily lives are and in being fearful of 'young men' it loses focus of women and children../families...one of them was a 13yr old child, some were between 15yrs and 17yrs old...one elderly man suffered a fit and they were all suffering hypothermia...and they would take those risks just to claim benefits or something because maybe they watch Benefit Street while they watch friends/family/neighbours die....?...and think oh I'll have a little bit of that...
..and to be harshly blunt as well, it's really sometimes hard not to think prejudice because in cases of police brutality and killings of ethnic minorities, it's sometimes said ..stop judging, you don't know the whole facts and it's media portrayal...but this is exactly the same, it's judging and media portrayal and we don't know the facts of why it's the UK that refuge is sought...but the 'common factor' though is 'not the same skin colour' so not the same understandings/empathy and not the same humanity...and we only really have the 'luxury' of judgement and prejudice because of where our parents lived in the world...we moan and groan (encouraged by the media)...of so many in the UK claiming benefits and being so harsh on them because of it/they shouldn't be/they're not entitles to and all of those things that are thrown out...until it comes to those old overseas immigrants and then it's all ours, don't you know...we need to be looking out for own../our own that we often say aren't entitled and manipulating a system...
..the world sucks sometimes...
Thought provoking for sure.
I think the true problem is that very different issues and problems are being grouped together and treated as the same when they are completely different.
The people lining up in Calais are not there escaping war and famine, they are there to exploit the most generous nation in Europe. We can only be the most generous nation in Europe while we look after a finite number of people, that's a fact. All our systems can only function with sustainable proportions of people inputting to the systems wealth. Its a fine balance before it all goes pear shaped and falls apart.
I believe you would be hard pushed to find anyone who would turn their back on genuine sufferers from war, and we do our bit there by re-settling people in the refugee camps set up for their protection. Those people are verified and catered for by our country the correct way. Where they are housed and cared for appropriately.
Cherie
08-10-2016, 09:41 AM
Thought provoking for sure.
I think the true problem is that very different issues and problems are being grouped together and treated as the same when they are completely different.
The people lining up in Calais are not there escaping war and famine, they are there to exploit the most generous nation in Europe. We can only be the most generous nation in Europe while we look after a finite number of people, that's a fact. All our systems can only function with sustainable proportions of people inputting to the systems wealth. Its a fine balance before it all goes pear shaped and falls apart.
I believe you would be hard pushed to find anyone who would turn their back on genuine sufferers from war, and we do our bit there by re-settling people in the refugee camps set up for their protection. Those people are verified and catered for by our country the correct way. Where they are housed and cared for appropriately.
This sums it up really
Crimson Dynamo
08-10-2016, 09:45 AM
This sums it up really
It does but it appears the left cant seem to see the distinction?
Northern Monkey
08-10-2016, 09:56 AM
Thought provoking for sure.
I think the true problem is that very different issues and problems are being grouped together and treated as the same when they are completely different.
The people lining up in Calais are not there escaping war and famine, they are there to exploit the most generous nation in Europe. We can only be the most generous nation in Europe while we look after a finite number of people, that's a fact. All our systems can only function with sustainable proportions of people inputting to the systems wealth. Its a fine balance before it all goes pear shaped and falls apart.
I believe you would be hard pushed to find anyone who would turn their back on genuine sufferers from war, and we do our bit there by re-settling people in the refugee camps set up for their protection. Those people are verified and catered for by our country the correct way. Where they are housed and cared for appropriately.:clap1:I agree.Sometimes people can confuse refugees and other migrants and will say things like 'They're not migrants!They're refugees!Have a heart etc etc'.Which is an emotional response but does'nt address the issue.This is why all of them just turning up in Europe and getting mixed up together harms the plight of the actual refugees.
Niamh.
08-10-2016, 11:11 AM
It is totally understandable to flee a war torn country to find safety for you and your family. No ones is arguing that fact at all. The issue is that as soon as they enter the first safe country they don't want to stay there. Instead they continue to pass through safe country after safe country, many many countries in fact with one goal in mind... to get to Great Britain. And you would have to be blind not to see why they do that and it is foolish to think that this is acceptable.
So basically no one would ever reach Britain or Ireland and we wouldn't have to help out at all? You can't expect just the neighbouring countries to take everyone
Vicky.
08-10-2016, 01:13 PM
It does but it appears the left cant seem to see the distinction?
Only the left eh? I would think both sides are guilty of this. Lefties have (often too much) compassion and overlook the 'bad' ones in order to help the 'good'. Where the right appear to tar everyone with the same brush and just say 'keep out'. So yes, seems most will lump them all together yet come to different conclusions.
Both guilty. Like usual.
Crimson Dynamo
08-10-2016, 01:34 PM
Only the left eh? I would think both sides are guilty of this. Lefties have (often too much) compassion and overlook the 'bad' ones in order to help the 'good'. Where the right appear to tar everyone with the same brush and just say 'keep out'. So yes, seems most will lump them all together yet come to different conclusions.
Both guilty. Like usual.
If it were not for the right actually highlighting this problem we would still be where we were 2 years ago
The UK has made a huge step in addressing this and is leading the way
All the left have done is nothing
Kizzy
08-10-2016, 05:29 PM
If it were not for the right actually highlighting this problem we would still be where we were 2 years ago
The UK has made a huge step in addressing this and is leading the way
All the left have done is nothing
Addressing what? recent governments right and left have done is aid in the destabilisation of the middle east.
We will never be able to wash the blood off our hands.
Crimson Dynamo
08-10-2016, 06:49 PM
Addressing what? recent governments right and left have done is aid in the destabilisation of the middle east.
We will never be able to wash the blood off our hands.
sigh
and the empire is all our fault etc etc
Crimson Dynamo
08-10-2016, 07:02 PM
Syrian refugee, 22, at the centre of a massive manhunt over airport bomb attack plot 'had ISIS links' - as police desperately evacuate city residents, warn he may be armed and arrest three men
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
This is why we process and DEPORT
arista
08-10-2016, 07:43 PM
Yes LT in Germany
Northern Monkey
08-10-2016, 08:22 PM
Syrian refugee, 22, at the centre of a massive manhunt over airport bomb attack plot 'had ISIS links' - as police desperately evacuate city residents, warn he may be armed and arrest three men
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
This is why we process and DEPORT
Hardly surprising.Syria is ISIS' capital.There are terrorists among these refugees.As you say this is a very good reason not to let these people in illegally.
Kizzy
08-10-2016, 09:08 PM
If this was just the feeling towards illegal immigrants I could maybe understand it, but it isn't.
Kizzy
08-10-2016, 09:13 PM
sigh
and the empire is all our fault etc etc
Neil MacGregor, the former director of the British Museum, has bemoaned Britain’s narrow view of its own history, calling it “dangerous and regrettable” for focusing almost exclusively on the “sunny side”.
Speaking before the Berlin opening of his highly popular exhibition Germany – Memories of a Nation, MacGregor expressed his admiration for Germany’s rigorous appraisal of its history which he said could not be more different to that of Britain.
“In Britain we use our history in order to comfort us to make us feel stronger, to remind ourselves that we were always, always deep down, good people,” he said. “Maybe we mention a little bit of slave trade here and there, a few wars here and there, but the chapters we insist on are the sunny ones,” he said.
Neil MacGregor: ‘Britain forgets its past. Germany confronts it’
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MacGregor warned: “This sort of handling of history is dangerous as well as regrettable”.
Ignorance is bliss eh?
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2016/oct/07/britains-view-of-its-history-dangerous-says-former-museum-director
hope they're okay though, that's so crazy
kirklancaster
09-10-2016, 11:10 AM
Neil MacGregor, the former director of the British Museum, has bemoaned Britain’s narrow view of its own history, calling it “dangerous and regrettable” for focusing almost exclusively on the “sunny side”.
Speaking before the Berlin opening of his highly popular exhibition Germany – Memories of a Nation, MacGregor expressed his admiration for Germany’s rigorous appraisal of its history which he said could not be more different to that of Britain.
“In Britain we use our history in order to comfort us to make us feel stronger, to remind ourselves that we were always, always deep down, good people,” he said. “Maybe we mention a little bit of slave trade here and there, a few wars here and there, but the chapters we insist on are the sunny ones,” he said.
Neil MacGregor: ‘Britain forgets its past. Germany confronts it’
Read more
MacGregor warned: “This sort of handling of history is dangerous as well as regrettable”.
Ignorance is bliss eh?
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2016/oct/07/britains-view-of-its-history-dangerous-says-former-museum-director
His name says it all - Neil - Kneel - Submissive appeasing twat. :laugh:
Neil can go feck himself.
kirklancaster
09-10-2016, 11:14 AM
Syrian refugee, 22, at the centre of a massive manhunt over airport bomb attack plot 'had ISIS links' - as police desperately evacuate city residents, warn he may be armed and arrest three men
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
This is why we process and DEPORT
I don't think we need worry about those poor souls inside that freezer truck being a danger to the UK though L.T. - They weren't even intending to come here. The truck said 'Freshly Frozen Produce For Iceland' meaning the stores, and they thought the lorry was heading to the country. :D
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