View Full Version : FBI open up Clintons Emails again
arista
28-10-2016, 05:58 PM
she has yet to respond to this.
Trump just said its Good news
http://news.sky.com/story/fbi-opens-new-hillary-clinton-email-investigation-10635942
kirklancaster
28-10-2016, 06:03 PM
:laugh::laugh::laugh: LMFAO - It's GOOD news week. :laugh:
Jamie89
28-10-2016, 06:24 PM
I love this, as soon as something happens that goes in his favour...
He also said the political system "might not be as rigged as I thought". :laugh:
The thing I don't understand about this whole email thing is that they already know she had classified secrets in her private emails (right?)... so why didn't she face any action against her for that? What exactly are the consequences for handling classified information in the way she has done? Trumps suggested that it amounts to criminal corruption (and if the FBI are investigating it then I'd guess it is a crime), but if that's the case then how come she wasn't arrested or anything before over what they found?
Live...
Rewind to -44 minutes...
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Jamie89
28-10-2016, 06:32 PM
Live...
Rewind to -44 minutes...
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Hilarious :laugh:
LaLaLand
28-10-2016, 06:33 PM
Good. She's SO dodgy it's unbelievable.
UserSince2005
28-10-2016, 06:40 PM
she need to be locked up and the key tossed to president trump.
Jack_
28-10-2016, 06:41 PM
why did the Dems nominate this bloody woman
I love this, as soon as something happens that goes in his favour...
He also said the political system "might not be as rigged as I thought". :laugh:
The thing I don't understand about this whole email thing is that they already know she had classified secrets in her private emails (right?)... so why didn't she face any action against her for that? What exactly are the consequences for handling classified information in the way she has done? Trumps suggested that it amounts to criminal corruption (and if the FBI are investigating it then I'd guess it is a crime), but if that's the case then how come she wasn't arrested or anything before over what they found?
Well, its dodgy that she had classified stuff on a private server ... that's bad enough for someone in public office, but ... and its a huge but, she deleted these thousands of emails AFTER she received a subpoena for it .... its soooo dodgy ... I know Trump is well dodgy, but Clinton is actually worse
Jamie89
28-10-2016, 06:49 PM
Well, its dodgy that she had classified stuff on a private server ... that's bad enough for someone in public office, but ... and its a huge but, she deleted these thousands of emails AFTER she received a subpoena for it .... its soooo dodgy ... I know Trump is well dodgy, but Clinton is actually worse
Yeah it's definitely all very dodgy, and makes her a dodgy character, but it's more the legality of it all I'm not sure about really. Because I'd imagine if you're given classified information, there'd be repercussions if you don't handle it correctly? So why haven't there been already? Because they already know she didn't, so I don't understand why there were no consequences for that (or what consequences there'd be for this investigation)
I wonder if the FBI will handle this investigation differently, release more specifics on the investigation than normal... seeing as early voting has already begun in many states.[/I]
I imagine it had to be significant for them to restart the investigation this close to election day. Had to be something big.
Yeah it's definitely all very dodgy, and makes her a dodgy character, but it's more the legality of it all I'm not sure about really. Because I'd imagine if you're given classified information, there'd be repercussions if you don't handle it correctly? So why haven't there been already? Because they already know she didn't, so I don't understand why there were no consequences for that (or what consequences there'd be for this investigation)
i'm not familiar with American law, so what we may think isn't acceptable may be fine and dandy over there. If she had allowed the classified information to get into unauthorised hands, I'm sure it would be an offense, but proving that may be quite difficult, and without that proof, she can probably get away with it. I would have a wild guess and say some proof has surfaced.
I fully expected the email scandal to come back in some way, as well as other scandals to come out at least after her presidency began... surprised it happened so soon. Her presidency will be mired in scandal, just because of the apparent enemies she has lined up and probably other Easter eggs waiting to be found given her careless attitude and penchant for extreme secrecy... the same is likely to happen to Trump as well...
After watching media more closely here, I don't think they are all that biased towards either candidate tbf (aside from your average punditry). They have given Hillary hell about her email server and yet she's been painted as the apparent star... Yet they give Donald Trump a pass on not releasing his tax records... so back and forth.
So many books are going to be written on this election.
arista
28-10-2016, 06:58 PM
why did the Dems nominate this bloody woman
Who can take her place?
Bernie?
Yeah it's definitely all very dodgy, and makes her a dodgy character, but it's more the legality of it all I'm not sure about really. Because I'd imagine if you're given classified information, there'd be repercussions if you don't handle it correctly? So why haven't there been already? Because they already know she didn't, so I don't understand why there were no consequences for that (or what consequences there'd be for this investigation)
Supporters of Hillary Clinton continue to ask the equivalent of 'What difference does it make?' with regard to the former Secretary of State's use of a personal email account to conduct official State Department business.
Meanwhile, many investigative reporters are combing through federal rules and regulations to discover what criminal charges Clinton could face for her actions.
Here are the three most frequently cited laws that appear to have been violated by Clinton:
1. Mishandling Classified Information
Executive Order 13526 and 18 U.S.C Sec. 793(f) of the federal code make it unlawful to send of store classified information on personal email. Casey Harper at The Daily Caller delved into this angle:
"'By using a private email system, Secretary Clinton violated the Federal Records Act and the State Department’s Foreign Affairs Manual regarding records management, and worse, could have left classified and top secret documents vulnerable to cyber attack,' Cause of Action Executive Director Dan Epstein said in an email to reporters.
'This is an egregious violation of the law, and if it were anyone else, they could be facing fines and criminal prosecution.'”
Harper goes on to point out that multiple violations of this law have been enforced recently, including in 1999, when former CIA Director John M. Deutch's security clearance was suspended for using his personal email to send classified information.
Additionally, this past week, Gen. David Patraeus pleaded guilty for mishandling classified information by using a Gmail account instead of his official government email.
2. Violation of The 2009 Federal Records Act
Section 1236.22 of the 2009 National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) requirements states that:
“Agencies that allow employees to send and receive official electronic mail messages using a system not operated by the agency must ensure that Federal records sent or received on such systems are preserved in the appropriate agency record keeping system.”
According to the original story on Clinton's emails published in The New York Times:
"Federal regulations, since 2009, have required that all emails be preserved as part of an agency’s record-keeping system. In Mrs. Clinton’s case, her emails were kept on her personal account and her staff took no steps to have them preserved as part of State Department record.
In response to a State Department request, Mrs. Clinton’s advisers, late last year, reviewed her account and decided which emails to turn over to the State Department."
The fact that the State Department combs through the 55,000 pages of emails sent on Clinton's private email account seems to verify that at least some of the emails Clinton sent contained classified information.
3. Violation of the Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA)
Veterans for a Strong America has filed a lawsuit against the State Department over potential violations of FOIA. Joel Arends, chairman of the non-profit group, explained to the Washington Examiner that their FOIA request over the Benghazi affair specifically asked for any personal email accounts Secretary Clinton may have used:
“'At this point in time, I think we're the only ones that specifically asked for both her personal and government email and phone logs,' Arends said of his group's Benghazi-related request.”
MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell believes that the use of a personal emails server appears to be a preemptive move, specifically designed to circumvent FOIA:
“'Hillary Clinton’s system was designed to defy Freedom of Information Act requests, which is designed to defy the law.'”
These are just three of the potential violations that Clinton may have committed by using a personal email account to conduct official State business. More information will be provided as this story continues to develop.
Source: http://ijr.com/2015/03/264655-3-federal-laws-hillary-may-violated-secret-email-accounts/
I fully expected the email scandal to come back in some way, as well as other scandals to come out at least after her presidency began... surprised it happened so soon. Her presidency will be mired in scandal, just because of the apparent enemies she has lined up and probably other Easter eggs waiting to be found given her careless attitude and penchant for extreme secrecy... the same is likely to happen to Trump as well...
After watching media more closely here, I don't think they are all that biased towards either candidate tbf (aside from your average punditry). They have given Hillary hell about her email server and yet she's been painted as the apparent star... Yet they give Donald Trump a pass on not releasing his tax records... so back and forth.
So many books are going to be written on this election.
You have to ask the question though - what does it say about the pair of them that there are all these doubts and questions over their characters, yet they have still each fought to exclude anyone else from doing the job. its disgusting really.
You have to ask the question though - what does it say about the pair of them that there are all these doubts and questions over their characters, yet they have still each fought to exclude anyone else from doing the job. its disgusting really.
I agree. It's a sad mess for the US.
Jamie89
28-10-2016, 07:16 PM
Supporters of Hillary Clinton continue to ask the equivalent of 'What difference does it make?' with regard to the former Secretary of State's use of a personal email account to conduct official State Department business.
Meanwhile, many investigative reporters are combing through federal rules and regulations to discover what criminal charges Clinton could face for her actions.
Here are the three most frequently cited laws that appear to have been violated by Clinton:
1. Mishandling Classified Information
Executive Order 13526 and 18 U.S.C Sec. 793(f) of the federal code make it unlawful to send of store classified information on personal email. Casey Harper at The Daily Caller delved into this angle:
"'By using a private email system, Secretary Clinton violated the Federal Records Act and the State Department’s Foreign Affairs Manual regarding records management, and worse, could have left classified and top secret documents vulnerable to cyber attack,' Cause of Action Executive Director Dan Epstein said in an email to reporters.
'This is an egregious violation of the law, and if it were anyone else, they could be facing fines and criminal prosecution.'”
Harper goes on to point out that multiple violations of this law have been enforced recently, including in 1999, when former CIA Director John M. Deutch's security clearance was suspended for using his personal email to send classified information.
Additionally, this past week, Gen. David Patraeus pleaded guilty for mishandling classified information by using a Gmail account instead of his official government email.
2. Violation of The 2009 Federal Records Act
Section 1236.22 of the 2009 National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) requirements states that:
“Agencies that allow employees to send and receive official electronic mail messages using a system not operated by the agency must ensure that Federal records sent or received on such systems are preserved in the appropriate agency record keeping system.”
According to the original story on Clinton's emails published in The New York Times:
"Federal regulations, since 2009, have required that all emails be preserved as part of an agency’s record-keeping system. In Mrs. Clinton’s case, her emails were kept on her personal account and her staff took no steps to have them preserved as part of State Department record.
In response to a State Department request, Mrs. Clinton’s advisers, late last year, reviewed her account and decided which emails to turn over to the State Department."
The fact that the State Department combs through the 55,000 pages of emails sent on Clinton's private email account seems to verify that at least some of the emails Clinton sent contained classified information.
3. Violation of the Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA)
Veterans for a Strong America has filed a lawsuit against the State Department over potential violations of FOIA. Joel Arends, chairman of the non-profit group, explained to the Washington Examiner that their FOIA request over the Benghazi affair specifically asked for any personal email accounts Secretary Clinton may have used:
“'At this point in time, I think we're the only ones that specifically asked for both her personal and government email and phone logs,' Arends said of his group's Benghazi-related request.”
MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell believes that the use of a personal emails server appears to be a preemptive move, specifically designed to circumvent FOIA:
“'Hillary Clinton’s system was designed to defy Freedom of Information Act requests, which is designed to defy the law.'”
These are just three of the potential violations that Clinton may have committed by using a personal email account to conduct official State business. More information will be provided as this story continues to develop.
Source: http://ijr.com/2015/03/264655-3-federal-laws-hillary-may-violated-secret-email-accounts/
Urgh it's all such a mess isn't it. She's quite clearly violated laws then :facepalm: And it's not as though she could claim ignorance given her position, her knowledge of the system and her husband being an ex president etc... I think it's due to arrogance, her thinking she could just do what she wanted, so it's obviously worrying to consider that someone who thinks like that could be president.
Interesting... was trying to find the FBI director's statement and found this:
Why FBI Director Made Clinton Email Announcement Now
As of this writing, all three cable news networks are in a frenzy. FBI Director James Comey just sent a letter to Republican congressional committee chairs announcing that he’s taking a new look into Hillary Clinton’s emails. Another investigation! And right before the election! She could be indicted!
Well, probably not. Indeed, almost definitely not. Here’s what the letter actually says:
http://i.imgur.com/S8JOggg.jpg
The relevant paragraph in this brief letter is the middle one, where Comey writes that the FBI “has learned of the existence” of emails that it previously did not review. In response to this new information, the FBI will now “allow investigators to review these emails to determine whether they contain classified information.”
The FBI, in other words, is not reexamining its previous findings. It is not questioning its previous legal conclusion that “no reasonable prosecutor” could determine that charges are warranted. Based on the letter, it appears that the FBI will simply provide the same scrutiny to these newly uncovered emails as it previously applied to the emails it already reviewed when it determined that criminal charges are not warranted.
Read more...
Source: https://thinkprogress.org/the-fbi-directors-letter-about-the-clinton-emails-says-a-lot-less-than-the-media-wants-you-to-aa61e81e5a97#.oy0f3dq4q
Newsweek's take on it: http://www.newsweek.com/fbi-reviewing-more-clinton-emails-514825
:shrug: I don't know what to think
:shrug: I don't know what to think
The emails must be relevant, because one could potentially examine every email ever written since she put the info on her server to see if it contains evidence of "email mismanagement"
Even if they found something they deemed relevant, it would involve teams of lawyers arguing it out before any decision could be made. I could see that lasting the whole length of her presidency and some :laugh:
_Tom_
28-10-2016, 07:41 PM
She's screwed
Northern Monkey
28-10-2016, 07:43 PM
Cancel the election and bring two new candidates out.This is just a mess.
Kizzy
28-10-2016, 07:46 PM
Oh for gods sake, if she knew she was up to her neck in it why didn't she just let Bernie run?...
The emails must be relevant, because one could potentially examine every email ever written since she put the info on her server to see if it contains evidence of "email mismanagement"
Even if they found something they deemed relevant, it would involve teams of lawyers arguing it out before any decision could be made. I could see that lasting the whole length of her presidency and some :laugh:
I guess their argument is it is more of a coincidence the timing of what they found and therefore they had an obligation to investigate it, rather than pick and choose based on relevancy... I don't know about that. I think that the White House has to know about the FBI's investigation and that the FBI has a responsibility to the people to be forthright and honest, but I think even the timing has to be considered... I guess in a way it would've been worse if it came out right after she was elected. People would lose their ****. :laugh:
It's a good/bad situation to be in. Hopefully more people vote and people actually read up on these things so that they are actually informed.
Jamie89
28-10-2016, 07:50 PM
Oh for gods sake, if she knew she was up to her neck in it why didn't she just let Bernie run?...
Arrogance and power hunger over common sense and doing what's best for the country?
Urgh it's all such a mess isn't it. She's quite clearly violated laws then :facepalm: And it's not as though she could claim ignorance given her position, her knowledge of the system and her husband being an ex president etc... I think it's due to arrogance, her thinking she could just do what she wanted, so it's obviously worrying to consider that someone who thinks like that could be president.
Yeah that's why I was satisfied with not voting for either of them. I tried to get Cruz in instead of Trump :laugh:, but yet here we are.
Maybe we need another debate and Trump can invite the FBI director's Monica Lewinsky as one of his guests...
user104658
28-10-2016, 07:55 PM
Hmm. And anyone who believes that Trump has never broken any law in his business dealings has to be a sandwich short of a picnic.
So essentially what you have... is the most powerful country in the world holding a binary leadership election, and both options are criminals who should probably be doing 8+ years in prison, rather than an 8 year stretch as president.
:umm2: shambles.
Jamie89
28-10-2016, 08:05 PM
This is an interesting overview on it all...
Hillary Clinton emails - what's it all about?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-31806907
Clinton staffers told the FBI that they destroyed some of the replaced devices with a hammer while they could not account for others
:facepalm:
user104658
28-10-2016, 08:07 PM
Ooh Trump down to 11/4 (just under 3/1). I got the sucker at 5/1. Let's hope for more leaks!
Jamie89
28-10-2016, 08:08 PM
Hmm. And anyone who believes that Trump has never broken any law in his business dealings has to be a sandwich short of a picnic.
So essentially what you have... is the most powerful country in the world holding a binary leadership election, and both options are criminals who should probably be doing 8+ years in prison, rather than an 8 year stretch as president.
:umm2: shambles.
Yeah the argument is basically 'which one is worse?' not which one is best... probably shouldn't be the case considering the job they're going for!
This is an interesting overview on it all...
Hillary Clinton emails - what's it all about?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-31806907
Clinton staffers told the FBI that they destroyed some of the replaced devices with a hammer while they could not account for others
:facepalm:
:laugh: this is what i'm saying, clinton had this done after the investigation in to her had started .... its the equivalent of putting evidence in the shredder .... and this woman can be trusted to be president? :laugh:
Yeah the argument is basically 'which one is worse?' not which one is best... probably shouldn't be the case considering the job they're going for!
It's partially the public's fault. People want to vote for a hero who will play Chuck Norris to our enemies abroad, have God-like focus on the issues, solve all arguments with a pen stroke and basically be the Pokemon Master of DC.
Few people also vote in primaries which means we are stuck with the same "safe" choices over and over again... except the ppl who vote in them don't vote on steady options now... they vote based on rhetoric/desire to reform (wildcard candidates).
We can have a reasonably good president to run the country if our expectations were more realistic and we looked at people's record, not how charismatic they are on TV. We also put too much pressure on such a person to solve the nation's issues when it should involve the entire nation/government. Also who would want that job coupled with all the scandals, unfair scrutiny and ridiculous rhetoric going around?... oh yeah, people who are power hungry and are obsessed with fame. That attracts the worst kind of candidate.
user104658
28-10-2016, 08:24 PM
Yeah the argument is basically 'which one is worse?' not which one is best... probably shouldn't be the case considering the job they're going for!
Same was true of the last UK General Election, to be fair. Just with less criminal activity and misogyny, more awkward sandwich skills and pig-****ery. We so British.
Tom4784
28-10-2016, 09:27 PM
She could sacrifice a child every month on the full moon to an ancient Blood God and she'd still be a better candidate for the presidency than Trump.
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Don't like Rudy Giuliani all that much, but his analysis at the end...
http://i.giphy.com/fZ9C5PCitQF5S.gif
Withano
28-10-2016, 09:51 PM
The saddest thing about this nobody could ever design her an email which would make her a worse candidate than Trump.
Its a bad year for the Western world.
Clinton making a statement...
Clinton making a statement...
is she resigning from the race? :thumbs2:
Another live feed. Go back about 10 minutes to see her statement.
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is she resigning from the race? :thumbs2:
That would only be a good thing if a third party came in to take over
Supposedly according to CNN, someone asked her as she was leaving from making her statement if she was worried if this would sink her campaign and she let out a "defiant" laugh as they termed it... :laugh:
i think she is going to wear her favourite brass neck and sit it out :laugh:
...what a grim mess for poor America...and obviously possible world repercussions...
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/a0/95/5f/a0955f55acf29d2c1357f337d23514be.gif
..I think it's easy to think haha Hilary and then we have to remind ourselves that the alternative is haha Trump.../either way it was never going to be anything other than a lose/lose situation..:sad:...there is no 'victory' in Trump becoming president, there is no 'victory' in Hilary either...
..anyways Clintons Emails taking over from Clintons Cards as the things in vogue to send this Christmas is what the title made me think of...
Jamie89
29-10-2016, 06:44 AM
She could sacrifice a child every month on the full moon to an ancient Blood God and she'd still be a better candidate for the presidency than Trump.
:joker:
As awful as she is I still think I prefer her over Trump, I think it's because the negatives about him hit at more of an emotional level with his attitudes etc, whereas she's awful in more of a bureaucratic way, like it's hard to feel emotional about emails (as much as what she's done is wrong and stupid and probably makes her wrong for the job). So emotionally I'm kind of apathetic towards her, whereas Trump just makes my skin crawl.
..in the blue corner we have Donald who may cause the skin crawling of many individuals in the world in his reign of power.../..in the red corner we have Hilary who may cause a worldwide skin crawl in her reign of power..:laugh:../grim, grim, grim...if only we could all opt out of buying tickets for America's new theme park...
http://media.tumblr.com/25f157d57c3b4654046c67f6e3d9f663/tumblr_inline_mkn89i0uEP1rg4uy0.gif
Liberty4eva
29-10-2016, 07:39 AM
Sometimes the most informed and honest assessment of things comes from the people you least suspect. This little girl is a lot smarter than most adults (and most people on this forum). :hehe:
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Sometimes the most informed and honest assessment of things comes from the people you least suspect. This little girl is a lot smarter than most adults (and most people on this forum). :hehe:
jF81toWLVyg
...:laugh:...lovely mama not wanting her daughter to stop believing in fairy-tales ..:lovedup:..she's just not had that 'you children are screwed either way darling' chat yet...
Liberty4eva
29-10-2016, 08:05 AM
...:laugh:...lovely mama not wanting her daughter to stop believing in fairy-tales ..:lovedup:..she's just not had that 'you children are screwed either way darling' chat yet...
You gotta admit she is very adorable and she does make a very good case over who to vote for. :hee:
Kizzy
29-10-2016, 11:54 AM
Sometimes the most informed and honest assessment of things comes from the people you least suspect. This little girl is a lot smarter than most adults (and most people on this forum). :hehe:
jF81toWLVyg
Ohh scary, the indoctrination of children...I wonder if this is how isis do it?
arista
29-10-2016, 02:06 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/10/28/23/39D3F20300000578-0-image-a-31_1477695419445.jpg
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3884204/Furious-Clinton-goes-war-FBI-director-extraordinary-press-conference-demanding-explains-new-email-probe-without-delay.html
...what a grim mess for poor America...and obviously possible world repercussions...
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/a0/95/5f/a0955f55acf29d2c1357f337d23514be.gif
..I think it's easy to think haha Hilary and then we have to remind ourselves that the alternative is haha Trump.../either way it was never going to be anything other than a lose/lose situation..:sad:...there is no 'victory' in Trump becoming president, there is no 'victory' in Hilary either...
This isn't for you specifically Ammi, but after hearing sooo much self-deprecation. But that gif. :thumbs: My opinion is this...
Poor America, my ass. Show up to primaries!!! :fist::laugh:
As The New York Times calculated, only 9% of Americans voted for the two candidates, and only 14% of eligible adults total.
The Times noted that there are 324 million people in the country; 103 million of them children, noncitizens or felons, and thus ineligible to vote. 73 million people who did not vote in the primaries will likely vote in the general election. 60 million people actually voted in the primaries, but only half of those voted for Trump and Clinton.
It's a sad time for all of us for sure, but only because people should be more involved if they really care about the future of this country and they weren't there when the country needed them most. Why sweat what happens after this? I won't because I voted. Maybe this needs to happen so people will wake up from their FB/Instagram binge? :laugh:
The good thing about this election is that it proves that people are hungry for better option(s), so there is hope. If I can raise funds to help a sick dog within days with no preexisting network/no followers on social media, then surely we can help fund a new party or group of people to get in and shake up the govt. People wanted a quick fix. They got it alright, except what they got was a fixed election instead. :laugh:
Change is never going to be easy. I could be like some others and be upset over it but why? Can you really expect your voice to be heard if you don't actually vote?? I'm proud to live in a country where at least we can vote. I have 0 regrets and if someone whines about the choices and then tells me they didn't vote in the primary, I give them an earful.
http://i.giphy.com/xT77Y36ijyuwn58bja.gif
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3884204/Furious-Clinton-goes-war-FBI-director-extraordinary-press-conference-demanding-explains-new-email-probe-without-delay.html
OT, but this picture of Huma is stunning.
http://i.imgur.com/5vu14vD.jpg
I just recently watched the Weiner indie documentary on Showtime (I think it's Showtime...). They are still showing it. Anyway, I recommend it. This guy is charismatic as all hell but literally makes a mess out of everything he touches. :laugh: Hillary is only his latest victim.
It's also a ironic precursor to this latest development. I feel like I know what's happening in that campaign because most of the movie is behind the scenes, how campaigns work around the clock to spin things.
Vice President reacts... He found out where the emails came from while being interviewed
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"Oh God, Anthony Weiner..."
"It should not have come out of Anthony Weiner"... hahaha :laugh3:
not smart i think .... the Clinton camp have now attacked the fbi
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37813607
it also now seems that Trump is level in the polls :laugh:
not smart i think .... the Clinton camp have now attacked the fbi
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37813607
it also now seems that Trump is level in the polls :laugh:
Polls haven't even responded to this yet. So he is already even without this scandal. I doubt either of them are going to lose by a landslide... it'll probably be really close and there will be a splitting of votes thanks to protest votes/third party candidate(s). They'll blame a third candidate for ____'s election just like they did with Gore.
How dare there be other options. :fist:
Liberty4eva
30-10-2016, 01:40 AM
I love this Hillary Clinton parody song "delete it!" :hee:
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I love this Hillary Clinton parody song "delete it!" :hee:
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..:laugh:..you should do a thread of what winner's song would be appropriate for either of them in their victory...
arista
30-10-2016, 09:00 AM
http://e3.365dm.com/16/10/536x302/14b571bd93e84e5cc95988ce67e9ddd9a58008facb3e79e016 d32efd3e12ad61_3819998.jpg?20161029223820
Johnnyuk123
01-11-2016, 03:25 PM
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arista
01-11-2016, 07:04 PM
Amazing From Ch4HDNews Live in USA
Trump is now one percent above that corrupt bitch.
Shaun
01-11-2016, 07:07 PM
Meanwhile absolutely nothing of this is mentioned.
http://europe.newsweek.com/donald-trump-companies-destroyed-emails-documents-515120?rm=eu
arista
01-11-2016, 07:09 PM
Meanwhile absolutely nothing of this is mentioned.
http://europe.newsweek.com/donald-trump-companies-destroyed-emails-documents-515120?rm=eu
Yes they do not want to debate that , out there.
arista
01-11-2016, 08:16 PM
Clinton women is pathetic
she spends all her time dissing Trump
Sure Trump spends all his time trashing her
but at least he talks of getting the illegals evicted, as well.
She is screaming away live on FoxNewsHD
in Florida.
She does not need to shout
she has 4 mics
Kizzy
01-11-2016, 08:28 PM
Hang on, that weiner guy who is such an incompetent/joke politician ... how did he leak the emails? How did he get or even know about the emails?
Liberty4eva
01-11-2016, 08:31 PM
Clinton women is pathetic
she spends all her time dissing Trump
Sure Trump spends all his time trashing her
but at least he talks of getting the illegals evicted, as well.
She is screaming away live on FoxNewsHD
in Florida.
She does not need to shout
she has 4 mics
Here voice is annoying as is her laugh. I doubt a lot of people will vote to hear her voice for the next 4 years.
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Johnnyuk123
01-11-2016, 08:33 PM
Here voice is annoying as is her laugh. I doubt a lot of people will vote to hear her voice for the next 4 years.
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You have just made my day! :joker::joker::joker:
A brilliant video! :)
Tom4784
01-11-2016, 11:17 PM
Oop.
http://europe.newsweek.com/donald-trump-companies-destroyed-emails-documents-515120?rm=eu
arista
01-11-2016, 11:43 PM
http://e3.365dm.com/16/11/536x302/afc06c86b82606a0eef33316eda22a93b95d314b7b72cc5757 faaaf99e72ae24_3822208.jpg?20161101220250
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arista
01-11-2016, 11:44 PM
Oop.
http://europe.newsweek.com/donald-trump-companies-destroyed-emails-documents-515120?rm=eu
Yes Shaun has already posted that link
a few posts back
Johnnyuk123
02-11-2016, 07:09 AM
Here is the latest news on those emails.
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Livia
02-11-2016, 02:58 PM
She could sacrifice a child every month on the full moon to an ancient Blood God and she'd still be a better candidate for the presidency than Trump.
Couldn't have put it better.
arista
02-11-2016, 03:56 PM
Here is the latest news on those emails.
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Yes Good Old Lou
FoxBusinessNewsHD ch
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Or by private live link
Johnnyuk123
02-11-2016, 05:37 PM
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02-11-2016, 09:30 PM
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James
02-11-2016, 09:33 PM
Johnny, I think all these Hillary e-mail videos could go in the 'FBI open up Clintons Emails again' thread.
Firewire
02-11-2016, 09:34 PM
Embarrassing
Johnnyuk123
02-11-2016, 09:44 PM
Johnny, I think all these Hillary e-mail videos could go in the 'FBI open up Clintons Emails again' thread.
No problem James, Just as long as people get to see it.:wavey:
Johnnyuk123
02-11-2016, 09:47 PM
Please watch this...
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Johnnyuk123
03-11-2016, 07:04 AM
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Northern Monkey
03-11-2016, 08:12 AM
Please watch this...
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The corruption is strong in this one
Johnnyuk123
03-11-2016, 08:32 AM
The corruption is strong in this one
It sure is. Check the other one out because they are cheating again.
Livia
03-11-2016, 11:12 AM
The FBI better find something in Hilary's emails . They've taken a HUGE and unprecidented risk by reopening an investigation weeks before an election. If Hilary gets in the FBI's top brass will probably never work again.
Northern Monkey
03-11-2016, 11:14 AM
It sure is. Check the other one out because they are cheating again.
I'm not a fan of Alex Jones.He's good for a laugh but I can't take him seriously.
Scarlett.
06-11-2016, 08:36 PM
Surprise, surprise, they're not changing their decision. Kinda feels like this was just brought up again to hurt Hillary's campaign.
joeysteele
06-11-2016, 09:27 PM
The FBI better find something in Hilary's emails . They've taken a HUGE and unprecidented risk by reopening an investigation weeks before an election. If Hilary gets in the FBI's top brass will probably never work again.
They did indeed take a massive risk.
They however have found nothing Livia, she is cleared again.
I expected no other outcome.
Shaun
06-11-2016, 09:28 PM
So the gist of this leak was... she watches Parks and Recreation.
Pete.
06-11-2016, 09:29 PM
Hillary does always win :love: :love: Wednesday morning realness
So the gist of this leak was... she watches Parks and Recreation.No the gist was to close the case right on the eve of the election for one last campaign boost.
Northern Monkey
07-11-2016, 10:24 AM
Well those guys in the FBI sure can read fast......
joeysteele
07-11-2016, 10:29 AM
It wouldn't have taken that long at all for a dedicated set team to go through 650,000 e mails over a period of a week at least.
Most of the emails would have been likely only a few words at most anyway
The FBI actually look very foolish here now.
Crimson Dynamo
07-11-2016, 10:44 AM
At one minute per email that is around 11,000 hours work
so that would be 275 people working a 40 hour week
I think I have that right?
joeysteele
07-11-2016, 11:08 AM
Oh for goodness sake.
the FBI will have efficient and strong teams to take that process on.
For crying out loud in our general elections for instance,teams of counters in constituencies can not only sort out, check and physically count upwards and over of 70,000 ballot papers within just a few hours in just one night.
The emails will have been printed out, they would only need checking the lists of the detail of them, with many likely having only a few words or even no words at all.
It would not take that long for an efficient trained and strong team to get through them.
It would likely have become necessary to do so too after the uproar made against the FBI move anyway, plus there would have been an added determination to come to a conclusion before election day too.
Shaun
07-11-2016, 11:19 AM
No the gist was to close the case right on the eve of the election for one last campaign boost.
Yeah I'm sure that 6 point drop as a result of it being picked up again a week ago was really worth the risk of her campaign coordinating this.
kirklancaster
07-11-2016, 11:37 AM
If James Comey has not been 'got at', then Jeremy Corbyn will be the next leader of The Conservative Party.
I'm predicted this will be number 1 on ITunes next week.
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