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Fetch The Bolt Cutters
29-10-2016, 08:10 PM
can we all talk about the adverts now it's fun

Johnnyuk123
29-10-2016, 08:10 PM
We need to get Kirk on this show! :cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:

Shaun
29-10-2016, 08:11 PM
Can Gifty have one of these pimpslots next week please :idc:

(even if Rockin' Robin was like third to last or w/e)

or 5AM.

Denver
29-10-2016, 08:14 PM
We all love you Saara

Babayaro.
29-10-2016, 08:15 PM
Stop calling her Zaara you fanny

Shaun
29-10-2016, 08:15 PM
the state of the series when Saara makes your top three

Adamw92
29-10-2016, 08:15 PM
I just love her :love:

Firewire
29-10-2016, 08:15 PM
"In Finland you can't be OTT"

Yeah she hasn't seen Eurovision has she

Pete.
29-10-2016, 08:16 PM
The Joanne Ball :love:

Firewire
29-10-2016, 08:16 PM
Gags is SHOOK

Babayaro.
29-10-2016, 08:16 PM
I love Coven

Black Dagger
29-10-2016, 08:16 PM
"In Finland you can't be OTT"

Yeah she hasn't seen Eurovision has she

She came 2nd in their process this year :laugh:

lewis111
29-10-2016, 08:16 PM
The first bit was amazing wow

Jordan.
29-10-2016, 08:16 PM
Zsa zsa

Shaun
29-10-2016, 08:16 PM
not sure but think that dancer might be gay

Lostie!
29-10-2016, 08:17 PM
Oh. It was better at the start.

Black Dagger
29-10-2016, 08:17 PM
Oh she has no ****ing chance of avoiding B3 with this </3

Firewire
29-10-2016, 08:17 PM
She came 2nd in their process this year :laugh:

DID SHE

Finland flopped this year as well

Samm
29-10-2016, 08:17 PM
ended gaga

Denver
29-10-2016, 08:17 PM
She is fantastic

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
29-10-2016, 08:17 PM
the stained glass windows look lush

Jordan.
29-10-2016, 08:18 PM
Nn

Shaun
29-10-2016, 08:18 PM
this is outstanding

Brother Leon
29-10-2016, 08:18 PM
Oh. Just realised that dance studio where they rehearse is 10mins away.

Oaker
29-10-2016, 08:18 PM
:love:

T*
29-10-2016, 08:18 PM
I HAVE BEEN SLAIn HOLY ****

Black Dagger
29-10-2016, 08:18 PM
DID SHE

Finland flopped this year as well

Yeah lmao. No Fear, it was actually good.

Johnnyuk123
29-10-2016, 08:18 PM
this is outstanding

:clap1::clap1::clap1:

lewis111
29-10-2016, 08:19 PM
how can someone be so incredible

Adamw92
29-10-2016, 08:19 PM
Performance of the night :love:

Denver
29-10-2016, 08:19 PM
She is by far the best

Johnnyuk123
29-10-2016, 08:19 PM
You have to like her she is so humble.

Jordan.
29-10-2016, 08:20 PM
Not Sharon's great mentoring by not doing anything

Adamw92
29-10-2016, 08:20 PM
If she goes home after this they can ****ing cancel it right now

lewis111
29-10-2016, 08:20 PM
Not here for her doing a Rachel Adedeji and going this week

Babayaro.
29-10-2016, 08:21 PM
why's she having an orgasm on stage tho

Brother Leon
29-10-2016, 08:21 PM
She's the most likeable at least. Would take her over Honey G every time.

Denver
29-10-2016, 08:21 PM
Can she just represent the UK at Eurovision next year please

Johnnyuk123
29-10-2016, 08:21 PM
If she goes home after this they can ****ing cancel it right now

Agreed, that was not a bottom 3 performance. More top 3.

lewis111
29-10-2016, 08:21 PM
She'll be destroyed by the life line vote cause Ryan will stay :/

Babayaro.
29-10-2016, 08:21 PM
Can she just represent the UK at Eurovision next year please

She's from Finland mate

Lostie!
29-10-2016, 08:22 PM
She's from Finland mate

First I've heard :suspect:

Shaun
29-10-2016, 08:22 PM
oh ****ing hell i just realised there's still Emily covering Creep - to what will presumably be rave reviews of "YOU MADE THAT YOUR OWN WOW" - to come :facepalm:

Denver
29-10-2016, 08:22 PM
She's from Finland mate

-Katrina slaps you across the face-

Black Dagger
29-10-2016, 08:22 PM
(Do think she'll go though, think people would have just thought the dance beat was too messy). But she doesn't deserve it with the dross on tonight.

Denver
29-10-2016, 08:23 PM
(Do think she'll go though, think people would have just thought the dance beat was too messy). But she doesn't deserve it with the dross on tonight.

I have faith the public have started to love her

Babayaro.
29-10-2016, 08:24 PM
i swear to god if emily ruins creep

Babayaro.
29-10-2016, 08:24 PM
of course she will!

Johnnyuk123
29-10-2016, 08:25 PM
I've seen Sara's performances online and i've also seen all the thumbs down for her too, she even got them for last weeks performance which was her best one to date before tonight. Just ignore them sara, all it means is one thing... Jealousy.:joker::joker::joker:

Lostie!
29-10-2016, 08:25 PM
When Wagner did Creep and Louis thought he was singing "I'm a creep, I'm a winner" :joker:

Oaker
29-10-2016, 08:27 PM
Hopefully 4oD are actually good this week :worry:

Samm
29-10-2016, 08:27 PM
loving the toxic promo

Firewire
29-10-2016, 08:27 PM
oh ****ing hell i just realised there's still Emily covering Creep - to what will presumably be rave reviews of "YOU MADE THAT YOUR OWN WOW" - to come :facepalm:

Wagner did it better

Shaun
29-10-2016, 08:27 PM
"when we realised we weren't really in the bottom 2 and ryan is coasting through on dumbass votes"*

Lostie!
29-10-2016, 08:28 PM
Did Dermot just sexually arouse Louis via the medium of voodoo doll?

Babayaro.
29-10-2016, 08:28 PM
'luxury spa experience'

I love wowcher

Natalie.
29-10-2016, 08:28 PM
Did Dermot just sexually arouse Louis via the medium of voodoo doll?

yes

Pete.
29-10-2016, 08:29 PM
Spice Girls promo :clap1:

Shaun
29-10-2016, 08:29 PM
Four of Diamonds featuring 9 others on backing vocals

Black Dagger
29-10-2016, 08:29 PM
~These can be sacrificed to keep Saara safe tbh~

Jordan.
29-10-2016, 08:29 PM
Halloween week was the start of Little Mix happening so

Oaker
29-10-2016, 08:30 PM
is this even the right backing track

Denver
29-10-2016, 08:30 PM
Where is the likes of The Monster Mash and Time Warp?

Shaun
29-10-2016, 08:30 PM
two on the left sound weak af

lewis111
29-10-2016, 08:30 PM
This is tragic soz

Lostie!
29-10-2016, 08:30 PM
It's no Paul Akister though is it?

yes

Hot.

T*
29-10-2016, 08:30 PM
I see Cheryl Cole in the 3rd one

Shaun
29-10-2016, 08:31 PM
yeah this sucks and they're indecipherable above the thousands of backings

Denver
29-10-2016, 08:31 PM
Honey G is a better vocalist

Natalie.
29-10-2016, 08:31 PM
Hot.

you after you watched it?
https://i.imgur.com/6xHd4dS.gif

lewis111
29-10-2016, 08:31 PM
Even Ryan was better than them

Lostie!
29-10-2016, 08:32 PM
you after you watched it?
https://i.imgur.com/6xHd4dS.gif

:joker::joker:

Pete.
29-10-2016, 08:32 PM
The solos were tragic but together they were great

Oaker
29-10-2016, 08:32 PM
it sucked at the start but I thought it was better near the end

Johnnyuk123
29-10-2016, 08:33 PM
They are improving and being 1 week behind everyone else means all credit to them.

lewis111
29-10-2016, 08:33 PM
Mess at the PCD shade

Denver
29-10-2016, 08:34 PM
Imagine Trying to sing a song by someone as Iconic as Ella and think you can do it justice

Black Dagger
29-10-2016, 08:35 PM
No thank you @ Emily.

Denver
29-10-2016, 08:36 PM
i hope Ryan dumps her live on TV

Shaun
29-10-2016, 08:36 PM
cue a VT of her crying and sobbing that she relates to the song because she thinks she's a weirdo or what****ingever

Johnnyuk123
29-10-2016, 08:36 PM
Emily next. :love:

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
29-10-2016, 08:39 PM
cue a VT of her crying and sobbing that she relates to the song because she thinks she's a weirdo or what****ingever

hgfvhdvbgcdghh

Samm
29-10-2016, 08:40 PM
mess she was that young when rolling in the deep came out

Jordan.
29-10-2016, 08:40 PM
Not her being about 8 when rolling in the deep came out

Babayaro.
29-10-2016, 08:40 PM
Emily is so cringey, I bet she's annoying irl

LukeB
29-10-2016, 08:41 PM
no showmance vt

Denver
29-10-2016, 08:41 PM
What a creep

Black Dagger
29-10-2016, 08:41 PM
What the **** is this?

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
29-10-2016, 08:42 PM
can i just ask why has nobody sang mel martinez sippy cup/dollhouse

Johnnyuk123
29-10-2016, 08:42 PM
Love it!:love:

Babayaro.
29-10-2016, 08:42 PM
I don't like her but this is quite good :clap2:

Black Dagger
29-10-2016, 08:42 PM
Just axe her.

Natalie.
29-10-2016, 08:43 PM
thought she was going to swear then :laugh:

Jordan.
29-10-2016, 08:43 PM
I don't like her but this is quite good :clap2:

2

Denver
29-10-2016, 08:43 PM
She bores me just a one trick pony

Lostie!
29-10-2016, 08:43 PM
This song just always makes me think of Cedric Diggory's dad catfishing and killing that girl on Hollyoaks and I don't even watch Hollyoaks.

Adamw92
29-10-2016, 08:43 PM
This is actually very good :love:

Samm
29-10-2016, 08:43 PM
this is rly good not hating

Shaun
29-10-2016, 08:43 PM
here for caitlyn vanbeck storming on screen and agreeing "AYE SHE DOESN'T ****IN' BELONG HERE"

lewis111
29-10-2016, 08:44 PM
Mess at the fake crying in the back

Oaker
29-10-2016, 08:44 PM
I just want her to sing something upbeat for once, this is getting way too boring now

LukeB
29-10-2016, 08:44 PM
by far her best performance.

Pete.
29-10-2016, 08:44 PM
This demon possessed child was actually good

Firewire
29-10-2016, 08:44 PM
so anyway

Shaun
29-10-2016, 08:44 PM
(yes that wasn't bad i suppose she's justified in staying another week like she obviously will)

lewis111
29-10-2016, 08:44 PM
It was better but she's still hasn't gone anywhere she's never wowed me at all

Babayaro.
29-10-2016, 08:44 PM
This song just always makes me think of Cedric Diggory's dad catfishing and killing that girl on Hollyoaks and I don't even watch Hollyoaks.

BYE Cedric Diggory's Dad was sirus or whatever the flip his name was?!

Brother Leon
29-10-2016, 08:44 PM
Not bad at all. Probably the best tonight.

Johnnyuk123
29-10-2016, 08:44 PM
Brilliant! :clap1::clap1::clap1:

Johnnyuk123
29-10-2016, 08:45 PM
Only one tonight pitch perfect too.

Jordan.
29-10-2016, 08:45 PM
This song just always makes me think of Cedric Diggory's dad catfishing and killing that girl on Hollyoaks and I don't even watch Hollyoaks.

India </3

Babayaro.
29-10-2016, 08:45 PM
remember when Brian thought he had IAC won but was voted off 3rd or something

LukeB
29-10-2016, 08:45 PM
I kind of expected a John Lewis type of version but I was wrong.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
29-10-2016, 08:45 PM
"you got teeth"

ok?????

Natalie.
29-10-2016, 08:46 PM
wasn't that good :umm2:

Babayaro.
29-10-2016, 08:47 PM
I bet Emily had that pencil case and water bottle set with that stick figure like girl with the stripey clothes on them and talked to bugs n that

Shaun
29-10-2016, 08:47 PM
bottom 3

should be: ryan, honey and 4 of Diamonds
will be: ryan, saara and 4 of Diamonds

Jordan.
29-10-2016, 08:48 PM
Bruno :sleepyneyde:

Pete.
29-10-2016, 08:48 PM
Bruno? The guests just keep getting worse :omgno:

Oaker
29-10-2016, 08:48 PM
24k Magic is a bop tho

Pete.
29-10-2016, 08:50 PM
Bye at the Poison promo on Xtra Factor

Vanessa
30-10-2016, 06:03 AM
Wow, it was a fantastic show. Loved most of if the performances, especially Matt, Saara and Emily. I missed the beginning, so will catch up tonight after work. Saara was the stand out, that girl is a star. And Matt voice on that song was phenomenal.

Ross.
30-10-2016, 11:14 AM
Bye at the hate for 4 of Diamonds in here

https://i.imgur.com/6xHd4dS.gif

zakman440
30-10-2016, 08:00 PM
On ITV NOW!

LukeB
30-10-2016, 08:01 PM
'life line vote"

ugh

Wizard.
30-10-2016, 08:01 PM
Think our Saara is in trouble :( Simon needs to axe the 'Ryan Lawrie Lifeline Vote'

Wizard.
30-10-2016, 08:02 PM
Louisa! This years lineup wish they had her talent

Brother Leon
30-10-2016, 08:02 PM
Louisa is still alive?

Ross.
30-10-2016, 08:02 PM
Why won't they kill the lifeline vote

Adamw92
30-10-2016, 08:03 PM
:worry: Really hope Saara is safe

LukeB
30-10-2016, 08:03 PM
So good is a bop

Shaun
30-10-2016, 08:04 PM
oh just let this song die already

Denver
30-10-2016, 08:04 PM
The Brooks are fuming

Natalie.
30-10-2016, 08:04 PM
Didn't know Louisa was doing stuff still

Firewire
30-10-2016, 08:04 PM
Inb4 Honey does a rap break!

Owen19
30-10-2016, 08:05 PM
Dangerouslehhh

Denver
30-10-2016, 08:05 PM
What a line

Ross.
30-10-2016, 08:05 PM
I'm Gifty

Denver
30-10-2016, 08:05 PM
Im Ryan

Ross.
30-10-2016, 08:06 PM
WELP what were those vocals from 4oD

Adamw92
30-10-2016, 08:06 PM
Sam's been styled kinda like Lauren Platt was the first week she was in the bottom 2

Firewire
30-10-2016, 08:06 PM
Inb4 Honey does a rap break!

oh.

Wizard.
30-10-2016, 08:06 PM
Well this wasn't the worst group performance ever

Firewire
30-10-2016, 08:06 PM
Perched af for Louisa

Amy Jade
30-10-2016, 08:07 PM
Who'll be the bottom two after Ryan is saved with the lifeline crap?

Wizard.
30-10-2016, 08:07 PM
Dermot has a script? Rigged!

Ross.
30-10-2016, 08:08 PM
Gifty is gone isn't she </3

Oaker
30-10-2016, 08:08 PM
If Ryan gets saved by the lifeline vote again it really needs to ****ing go

Wizard.
30-10-2016, 08:08 PM
Welp at them doing this segment differently every week.

I love consistency

Adamw92
30-10-2016, 08:08 PM
Who'll be the bottom two after Ryan is saved with the lifeline crap?

Probably Saara and 4OD. :(

Amy Jade
30-10-2016, 08:09 PM
Gifty was so bad last night, so were 4oD :(

LukeB
30-10-2016, 08:09 PM
Gifty is gone isn't she </3

She will be safe over 4OD tbh.

Denver
30-10-2016, 08:09 PM
Saara should be safe as she did a memorable performance

Ross.
30-10-2016, 08:11 PM
She will be safe over 4OD tbh.

I feel like she'd be eliminated so they all have 2 each

LukeB
30-10-2016, 08:11 PM
I feel like she'd be eliminated so they all have 2 each

Not tactical voting

Amy Jade
30-10-2016, 08:11 PM
Saara should be safe as she did a memorable performance

She should win but the show isn't about finding the best anymore

Owen19
30-10-2016, 08:11 PM
No girls it wasn't your best performance

Ross.
30-10-2016, 08:12 PM
Not tactical voting

Justice for Miss Relley C!

Firewire
30-10-2016, 08:12 PM
Ugh Louisa

Firewire
30-10-2016, 08:12 PM
A proper legend

Amy Jade
30-10-2016, 08:13 PM
Louisa does nothing for me at all

Natalie.
30-10-2016, 08:13 PM
Forgot Rita did this

Shaun
30-10-2016, 08:13 PM
:clap1:

Brother Leon
30-10-2016, 08:13 PM
She was such an irrelevant winner :joker:

Pete.
30-10-2016, 08:13 PM
Take notes Bruno

Denver
30-10-2016, 08:13 PM
Can we stop trying to make Fluisa happen

Firewire
30-10-2016, 08:14 PM
https://31.media.tumblr.com/206fb5378a57082ecd666297326e1078/tumblr_inline_nkcz2puX1c1s6se01.gif

Amy Jade
30-10-2016, 08:15 PM
Oh dear mumsnet will be fuming at her outfit and dancing

Natalie.
30-10-2016, 08:15 PM
Wasn't really a fan of Louisa

Amy Jade
30-10-2016, 08:15 PM
I don't hate this actually

Denver
30-10-2016, 08:16 PM
Is she still cheating on her boyfriend

Natalie.
30-10-2016, 08:16 PM
this is good though

Brother Leon
30-10-2016, 08:16 PM
Legend Stormzy charting over her for Xmas week. #NeverForget.

Lostie!
30-10-2016, 08:17 PM
I don't like that she's glamorizing staying out late on work nights. Irresponsible :nono:

Amy Jade
30-10-2016, 08:17 PM
Terrible dandruff

Denver
30-10-2016, 08:17 PM
Saara topped the votes

Ross.
30-10-2016, 08:17 PM
My wig is on the floor

Oaker
30-10-2016, 08:17 PM
Why do they keep doing the results before the second guest performance :worry:

Firewire
30-10-2016, 08:18 PM
My wig is on the floor

as is mine

Shaun
30-10-2016, 08:19 PM
i do like it but i can't shake off the feeling that it is basically alessia cara </3

Ross.
30-10-2016, 08:19 PM
as is mine

She better not flop I need it to smash

Firewire
30-10-2016, 08:20 PM
She better not flop I need it to smash

The UK hates confident women

I bet if Calum Scott released a piano version it would be #1 smh

Adamw92
30-10-2016, 08:20 PM
Saara topped the votes

Here for this :clap1:

Ross.
30-10-2016, 08:22 PM
The UK hates confident women

I bet if Calum Scott released a piano version it would be #1 smh

:joker:

This is so true

Wizard.
30-10-2016, 08:23 PM
i don't like that she's glamorizing staying out late on work nights. Irresponsible :nono:

792823002501185541

Amy Jade
30-10-2016, 08:23 PM
The UK hates confident women

I bet if Calum Scott released a piano version it would be #1 smh

4 confident women are currently number 1 though

Adamw92
30-10-2016, 08:23 PM
:worry:

Firewire
30-10-2016, 08:24 PM
Can we not talk about Luke Elkins in here please

LukeB
30-10-2016, 08:24 PM
792823002501185541

:joker:

Ross.
30-10-2016, 08:24 PM
Wow 2.3 million votes for 4oD http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar91218_164.gif

Amy Jade
30-10-2016, 08:24 PM
792823002501185541

He look my mumsnet ones too :laugh:

Lostie!
30-10-2016, 08:25 PM
That dog on the Talk Talk bit :joker::joker:

792823002501185541

The mess of it all

Babayaro.
30-10-2016, 08:25 PM
yaaasss

Shaun
30-10-2016, 08:25 PM
Slay <3

1/3 of the ones I voted for saved. Gifty and Saara come thru!!!

Pete.
30-10-2016, 08:26 PM
Anyway @ Emily

Adamw92
30-10-2016, 08:26 PM
Come on Saara

Firewire
30-10-2016, 08:26 PM
Praying for Saara

Amy Jade
30-10-2016, 08:26 PM
Ryan needs to go this week

Shaun
30-10-2016, 08:26 PM
honey obvs

Shaun
30-10-2016, 08:26 PM
oh well yay her

Serg
30-10-2016, 08:26 PM
Yikes.

Ross.
30-10-2016, 08:26 PM
hew is voting for Sam

Shaun
30-10-2016, 08:27 PM
YAAAAAAAAAAAS :clap1:

Babayaro.
30-10-2016, 08:27 PM
omgggggggggggg

Denver
30-10-2016, 08:27 PM
Yessssssssss

LukeB
30-10-2016, 08:27 PM
Saara :love:

Pete.
30-10-2016, 08:27 PM
She did that :clap1:

Amy Jade
30-10-2016, 08:27 PM
Yewwesssssassaaaaaaaa

Adamw92
30-10-2016, 08:27 PM
YES!

Firewire
30-10-2016, 08:27 PM
LEGEND THROUGH

Oaker
30-10-2016, 08:27 PM
legend :clap1:

Babayaro.
30-10-2016, 08:27 PM
the comeback is actually on

Lostie!
30-10-2016, 08:27 PM
Goddess

Pete.
30-10-2016, 08:27 PM
Knee Gee in the bottom?

Ross.
30-10-2016, 08:27 PM
Omg Saara <3333

Owen19
30-10-2016, 08:27 PM
Saara actually might have a chance OMG

Amy Jade
30-10-2016, 08:27 PM
4oD :fc:

Shaun
30-10-2016, 08:27 PM
It'll be Honey obviously.

Please Gifty tho </3

Firewire
30-10-2016, 08:27 PM
Ryan in the bottom three again? :joker:

Owen19
30-10-2016, 08:27 PM
4OD please

Serg
30-10-2016, 08:27 PM
YASSSSSSSSSSS

Owen19
30-10-2016, 08:28 PM
No thanks

Shaun
30-10-2016, 08:28 PM
:idc:

Samm
30-10-2016, 08:28 PM
ew

Babayaro.
30-10-2016, 08:28 PM
Bye ****ing mess

Denver
30-10-2016, 08:28 PM
Please vote Ryan

Brother Leon
30-10-2016, 08:28 PM
**** off Honey G.

Will.
30-10-2016, 08:28 PM
Lmao.

Ross.
30-10-2016, 08:28 PM
Not Miss Gifty going home </3

Amy Jade
30-10-2016, 08:28 PM
4oD v Gifty then <\3

Oaker
30-10-2016, 08:28 PM
Ryan is going to get saved again ffs

Pete.
30-10-2016, 08:28 PM
RIP 4OD </3

Owen19
30-10-2016, 08:28 PM
Can't wait for Ryan to be saved again

Amy Jade
30-10-2016, 08:28 PM
Please vote Ryan

Piss off

Lostie!
30-10-2016, 08:28 PM
votes for Gifty ofc

Babayaro.
30-10-2016, 08:29 PM
Ryan serving Halfwit realness

Serg
30-10-2016, 08:29 PM
Bye 4oD

Serg
30-10-2016, 08:29 PM
Save Gifty!!!

Ross.
30-10-2016, 08:29 PM
Ryan will never leave

Brother Leon
30-10-2016, 08:29 PM
Gifty needs to stay. Any of the other two can go.

Babayaro.
30-10-2016, 08:29 PM
A mess if Ryan has been bottom of the overall vote for the last 3 weeks

Shaun
30-10-2016, 08:29 PM
this is what happens when you give one of the initial top 3 favourites Fifth Harmony songs that nobody knows, to perform early every week :idc:

Wizard.
30-10-2016, 08:30 PM
Don't split the votes save Gifty!

Cal.
30-10-2016, 08:31 PM
Ugh these bottom 3/2s are so depressing.

It's so painfully obvious that Matt/Emily/5AM/Sam will all reach the end without having to fight for their place whilst the others scramble to scrape by another week despite being better.

Cal.
30-10-2016, 08:31 PM
But Saara :love:

Greg!
30-10-2016, 08:32 PM
I'm screaming I love how much rage Honey G causes to the public she's a LEGEND.

Firewire
30-10-2016, 08:32 PM
Is that Saara on that Facebook ad

Ross.
30-10-2016, 08:32 PM
I don't get the Sam love

Natalie.
30-10-2016, 08:32 PM
Who is voting for Emily, Sam and Ryan?

LukeB
30-10-2016, 08:33 PM
I hope the teenagers are at some halloween party so ryan don't get votes.