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Mrluvaluva

12-03-2007, 09:23 AM

From The Star:

JO O’Meara is to pen an explosive book lifting the lid on the Celebrity Big Brother race row.

The singer, who has been suicidal after becoming a hate target, is being chased by publishers for the warts-and-all story.

And Jo, 27, could net a whopping £250,000 deal to help her clear her mounting debts and stop her home being repossessed.

A close pal said: “Jo wants to move on with her life and she feels the only way she can put this nightmare behind her is by telling all.

“So she’s got herself a literary agent and she plans a full and frank account of life inside the house and how badly she’s been treated since she came out.”

The former S Club star plans to tell all about her friendships with Danielle Lloyd, 23, and Jade Goody, 25, and why Bollywood star Shilpa Shetty got up their noses.

Jo will claim that housemates like Jade’s mum Jackiey Budden, 48, uttered comments about Shilpa, 31, that were far more offensive than anything she ever said – yet she bore the brunt of abuse from fans.

She will expose how Jade was “tipped off” about the BB race row in hush-hush diary room chats.

And she will reveal how footage of infamous Oxo Cube row was edited to make her nervous laughter look as if she was laughing at Shilpa.

She will also disclose the “Witches of Elstree’s” taunts and jibes against Shilpa were not racist rants but schoolgirl bully antics that they are now deeply ashamed of.

Jo’s book will also give details about the death threats which pushed her to the brink and reveal how she feels abandoned by BB’s producers and thinks they have “washed their hands” of her now that the show is over.

Jo’s pal said: “She thinks a book will be a good form of therapy to get it all out of her system.

“Channel 4 probably won’t like what she has to say. But they used her like a puppet on the show and now she feels it’s time to hit back.”

Jo signed for the Channel 4 show because she was in financial trouble after her solo pop career and her dog breeding business had not taken off in the way she had hoped.

GiRTh

12-03-2007, 09:26 AM

It's about time they all started slicing each other up in the press. Good one ya' Jo.

I want to hear about how Jade was 'Tipped off' about the race row. Like we didn't already know!?

nodisharmony

12-03-2007, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by GiRTh
It's about time they all started slicing each other up in the press. Good one ya' Jo.

I want to hear about how Jade was 'Tipped off' about the race row. Like we didn't already know!?

The papers got it wrong.

Jo O'Meara has put the record straight on GMTV

It was the first she heard of it??

You can always have a dream about it though!

GiRTh

12-03-2007, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by nodisharmony

You can always have a dream about it though!
No idea what you mean. Perhaps you can elaborate.

nodisharmony

12-03-2007, 01:02 PM

Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by nodisharmony

You can always have a dream about it though!
No idea what you mean. Perhaps you can elaborate.

You say that "you want to hear about how Jade was tipped off about the race row"

As this story in the papers is untrue.

Jo O'Meara said this on GMTV today, she's hardly going to lie to Fiona Phillips, is she?

So, if you are waiting to see some more Jade negativity, then you can dream about this book, which the media say is going to happen. But the facts from Jo O'Meara's mouth say the opposite.

I believe Jo & I believe in Jade okay!!

GiRTh

12-03-2007, 01:08 PM

Originally posted by nodisharmony

Jo O'Meara said this on GMTV today, she's hardly going to lie to Fiona Phillips, is she?

Had to lauigh at that no sorry LOL at that.

If the book comes out then it will confirm what everbody, except you, already suspects.

Red Moon

12-03-2007, 01:14 PM

Amazing how a out and out bullies henchwoman can believe she make money out of money out of the mess she caused in the Big Brother house. The woman is clearly suffering from delusions if she think anyone would really be that interested to buy her drivel.

If she really has footage that will clear her name why doesn't she put it on the net. Clearly this footage is just another of her part her delusions, a figment of her over active imagination.

It more than likely she has made the whole thing up to help out of her financial troubles.

This woman needs a rest in a very special hospital for a while, until she gets better.

nodisharmony

12-03-2007, 06:51 PM

Originally posted by Red Moon
Amazing how a out and out bullies henchwoman can believe she make money out of money out of the mess she caused in the Big Brother house. The woman is clearly suffering from delusions if she think anyone would really be that interested to buy her drivel.

If she really has footage that will clear her name why doesn't she put it on the net. Clearly this footage is just another of her part her delusions, a figment of her over active imagination.

It more than likely she has made the whole thing up to help out of her financial troubles.

This woman needs a rest in a very special hospital for a while, until she gets better.

Her interview on GMTV clears up the Daily Mirror story.

Jo was none-the-wiser regarding the book.

Endemol have the tapes. Jo has memories of what she saw and heard in the Big Brother house and that's it.

Evilempressrose

12-03-2007, 07:50 PM

spacebandit

12-03-2007, 08:10 PM

Originally posted by Red Moon
Amazing how a out and out bullies henchwoman can believe she make money out of money out of the mess she caused in the Big Brother house. The woman is clearly suffering from delusions if she think anyone would really be that interested to buy her drivel.

If she really has footage that will clear her name why doesn't she put it on the net. Clearly this footage is just another of her part her delusions, a figment of her over active imagination.

It more than likely she has made the whole thing up to help out of her financial troubles.

This woman needs a rest in a very special hospital for a while, until she gets better.

Well, she could quite easily be the one who puts the last nail in the coffin of Jade and Dannielles "careers" by spilling the beans, especially if she can back it up. Maybe she has someone within Endemol who has slipped her copies of unedited raw footage.... if so ...... bring it on, get paid and go away.

nodisharmony

16-03-2007, 08:30 PM

Originally posted by BAZG
From The Star:

JO O’Meara is to pen an explosive book lifting the lid on the Celebrity Big Brother race row.

The singer, who has been suicidal after becoming a hate target, is being chased by publishers for the warts-and-all story.

And Jo, 27, could net a whopping £250,000 deal to help her clear her mounting debts and stop her home being repossessed.

A close pal said: “Jo wants to move on with her life and she feels the only way she can put this nightmare behind her is by telling all.

“So she’s got herself a literary agent and she plans a full and frank account of life inside the house and how badly she’s been treated since she came out.”

The former S Club star plans to tell all about her friendships with Danielle Lloyd, 23, and Jade Goody, 25, and why Bollywood star Shilpa Shetty got up their noses.

Jo will claim that housemates like Jade’s mum Jackiey Budden, 48, uttered comments about Shilpa, 31, that were far more offensive than anything she ever said – yet she bore the brunt of abuse from fans.

She will expose how Jade was “tipped off” about the BB race row in hush-hush diary room chats.

And she will reveal how footage of infamous Oxo Cube row was edited to make her nervous laughter look as if she was laughing at Shilpa.

She will also disclose the “Witches of Elstree’s” taunts and jibes against Shilpa were not racist rants but schoolgirl bully antics that they are now deeply ashamed of.

Jo’s book will also give details about the death threats which pushed her to the brink and reveal how she feels abandoned by BB’s producers and thinks they have “washed their hands” of her now that the show is over.

Jo’s pal said: “She thinks a book will be a good form of therapy to get it all out of her system.

“Channel 4 probably won’t like what she has to say. But they used her like a puppet on the show and now she feels it’s time to hit back.”

Jo signed for the Channel 4 show because she was in financial trouble after her solo pop career and her dog breeding business had not taken off in the way she had hoped.

The implications from any book, naming and shaming a particular house-mate is very dodgy and could cause other court cases to follow.

If there is going to be a book or programme done, it should be about the editing and how things can be perceived to look worse, when they are not.

Jo is hardly going to start that off.

MarkWaldorf

16-03-2007, 08:33 PM

I think Jo confirmed on GMTV it wasn't real.

I doubt she'd do that anyway, it's the last thing she needs to do.

andybigbro

16-03-2007, 09:24 PM

Yeah i can rember she said something a bout a book

Did she confirm it wasnt real?

MarkWaldorf

16-03-2007, 09:33 PM

Yesh Andy, on GMTV.

nodisharmony

17-03-2007, 08:14 PM

Originally posted by andybigbro
Yeah i can rember she said something a bout a book

Did she confirm it wasnt real?

I saw the GMTV interview between Fiona & Jo and Jo said that it was a surprise to her and the first she's heard of it.

Matt08

18-03-2007, 12:08 PM

I think the main reason Jo is in this mess is down to the Big Brother producers, they've unfairly edited the tapes which makes it look as though Jo, Danielle and Jade were bullying Jade. Maybe they did say a few nasty things but I think the way the footage has been edited has made things look worse than they actually were. Also I think it's really horrible how the producers have abandoned Jo. Luckily there's new producers for BB8 and hopefully they will do a much better job than the old ones.

nodisharmony

18-03-2007, 07:30 PM

Originally posted by matt06
I think the main reason Jo is in this mess is down to the Big Brother producers, they've unfairly edited the tapes which makes it look as though Jo, Danielle and Jade were bullying Jade. Maybe they did say a few nasty things but I think the way the footage has been edited has made things look worse than they actually were. Also I think it's really horrible how the producers have abandoned Jo. Luckily there's new producers for BB8 and hopefully they will do a much better job than the old ones.

That is a true observation and Jo O'Meara must now move on from this and try to get a better life and leave this nightmare behind.

I wasn't aware that Big Brother 8 is having new producers?

Maybe it is a political decision and a profit-making one too?

nannaR

20-03-2007, 08:03 PM

i liked danielle and jo but could never stand jade. the whole thing to me was blown up out of nothing, jade was the only bully because she had the biggest mouth and could never leave anything to die down. i am glad dani and now jo seem to be getting on with their lives and wish them all the best, and as for jade and jack i wouldnt mind never seeing either of them again. she should get back and raise her kids out of the lime light.

Sunny_01

20-03-2007, 09:36 PM

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Originally posted by matt06
I think the main reason Jo is in this mess is down to the Big Brother producers, they've unfairly edited the tapes which makes it look as though Jo, Danielle and Jade were bullying Jade. Maybe they did say a few nasty things but I think the way the footage has been edited has made things look worse than they actually were. Also I think it's really horrible how the producers have abandoned Jo. Luckily there's new producers for BB8 and hopefully they will do a much better job than the old ones.

That is a true observation and Jo O'Meara must now move on from this and try to get a better life and leave this nightmare behind.

I wasn't aware that Big Brother 8 is having new producers?

Maybe it is a political decision and a profit-making one too?

Not sure how you feel about to so confidently say that this is a "true" observation? does that mean that those of us who dont buy into the poor editing thing are making "untrue" observations?

spacebandit

20-03-2007, 10:09 PM

nodisharmony

20-03-2007, 11:08 PM

Originally posted by Sunny_01
Originally posted by nodisharmony
Originally posted by matt06
I think the main reason Jo is in this mess is down to the Big Brother producers, they've unfairly edited the tapes which makes it look as though Jo, Danielle and Jade were bullying Jade. Maybe they did say a few nasty things but I think the way the footage has been edited has made things look worse than they actually were. Also I think it's really horrible how the producers have abandoned Jo. Luckily there's new producers for BB8 and hopefully they will do a much better job than the old ones.

That is a true observation and Jo O'Meara must now move on from this and try to get a better life and leave this nightmare behind.

I wasn't aware that Big Brother 8 is having new producers?

Maybe it is a political decision and a profit-making one too?

Not sure how you feel about to so confidently say that this is a "true" observation? does that mean that those of us who dont buy into the poor editing thing are making "untrue" observations?

Hi Sunny,

Sadly, we won't agree on everything.

I personally believe this is the truth. I can see how editing can make things appear worse than it already is. It is like a Jigsaw with many pieces missing. A donkey could look like a shark?

Many will look at Jo O'Meara's comments and especially her nasty stares at Shilpa and even Jo's demeanor in general and make judgements from that.

What I did, is listen very carefully to what Jo has said in videoed footage and in interviews.

She complained quite strongly about the editing and was extremely upset about the way the Big Brother show had zoned in on a very nasty Jo O'Meara, and missed out, a lot of the nice footage.

If you don't buy into the poor editing thing, then, certain people who have accepted this critisism, may also, welcome critisism that the shows editing wasn't making Jo O'Meara look worse.

If Jo has made it clear that she is unhappy and can talk about her better side, during the show, then, there maybe witnesses, (Other Housemates) that could vouch for her.

But, would they? Jo O'Meara is not the kind of person that many people want to associate with right now. Maybe other Housemates may keep quiet?

All the best, nodisharmony :angel:

Sunny_01

21-03-2007, 10:19 AM

To be honest I am not in the least bit bothered about editing or have any firm opinions about it. I dont have enough hours in the day to closely watch footage nor do I have the inclination!

I have no problem with Jo - she is I feel a victim of the BB Machine. Roll em out and dump em is what happens with HMs.

The issue I had was with your "wording" you may have opinions but to state them the way you did was implying that those of us who feel differently were wrong :conf:

nodisharmony

21-03-2007, 01:00 PM

Originally posted by Sunny_01
To be honest I am not in the least bit bothered about editing or have any firm opinions about it. I dont have enough hours in the day to closely watch footage nor do I have the inclination!

I have no problem with Jo - she is I feel a victim of the BB Machine. Roll em out and dump em is what happens with HMs.

The issue I had was with your "wording" you may have opinions but to state them the way you did was implying that those of us who feel differently were wrong :conf:

Hi Sunny,

It is nice to know that many people are not bothered about editing. This is to be expected!!

" No surprises ", would be the response, from Camp-Jade or from Jo or Danielle either.

I would say that Endemol would be even happier and thank those who are not bothered about editing.

(Edit On) "so the non-carers say"

If the Crime Scene Investigation, (C.S.I) for short. Had the opinion, "hours in the day" & "Inclination", they wouldn't solve their cases. We watch C.S.I on the TV and get amazed how the solve the investigations by studying the evidence closely.

What we actually have in front of us, is,three girls:- Jade Goody & Jo O'Meara & Danielle Lloyd.

It is quite obvious to even children, that, they were looking forward to a great show in CBB Jan. I watched the show and saw this for myself.

What has happened after the show, is what this nightmare is all about. The girls are dealing with the "fall-out". We both know what those two words-together mean, even in another circumstance!!

This fall-out was caused by the argument and the treatment of Shilpa Shetty, (an Indian Bollywood actress), by the three girl's who have been labelled (Bullies).

This word, (Bullies) was labelled to all three girls, because they stuck together and created a division in the BB house. All the nasty offensive words and sentances from all three girls, Jo, Jade & Danielle were targeted at Shilpa, in front of her and behind her back. This is there for all to see, here in England and also in India and other countries too.

There was a furore and when Gordon Brown was in India, it was very apparent that this was going to be massive headline news.

The judgements which got made were about the footage shown. This is known as (edited-footage), the parts which Endemol's editors decided were worth showing.

If Jermaine was talking to Shilpa for 55 minutes about something his wife has done three weeks ago, it is a personal conversation between the two of them. These personal conversations are not the kind of viewing which is going to create good ratings. Not juicy and exciting enough for the kind of viewers who watch the show. They tend to want fireworks and disagreements.

Anyway, as I was saying about this possible Jermaine/Shilpa conversation, (just a friendly one.) Along the way, during this discussion, "Jackiey", (Jade's mum), may have come up during that conversation? Maybe about 23 minutes during the conversation? Shilpa may have made a nasty comment? Like, "Thank god my mother's not like Jade's mother! She is just horrible!! Then, Jermaine may have said something back? during this little conversation, Jo, Jade or even Danielle may have heard this and caused the hatred of Shilpa to get worse? or even, had started it?

If a show chooses to "edit", then, we can easily assume that something like that could have happened?

When it comes to editing, the results which follow the edited-out footage, can make things look much worse to people. (Subsequently, many people get offended!!) Which is what happened.

It is like picking quotes from a post on a forum, then adding another quote, then adding another quote. Before you know it, someone's opinion of what is being written can cause other people to have clouded judgements!! Things can be taken out of context.

It is important to see the whole picture, without pieces being taken away. Sadly, with Big Brother, they have to edit out so much footage, because a day is 24 hours and the show can only stick less than an hour off shown footage, naturally picking out the juicy stuff.

Many of the viewing public have been fooled.

Jade Goody could easily get angry on this show, because, she had a problem with Shilpa, which built up over the time.

Jo & Danielle, also had a problem with Shilpa, and when you get three housemates, all thinking the same thing, it is very hard to mend this. The personal dislike of someone is just the way it is. You can't force the girls to like Shilpa, they just didn't.

In any argument, or behind that persons back, people say stuff.

I have the TV programme "Loose Women" on at the moment, and they are making their opinions of certain people, celebrities, situations very clear to all of us watching. Girl's gossip and Girl's say stuff. You can't change that! But what we saw, was made to look worse, by editing. Pieceing together, all the comments, nasty stares and frowns, everything imaginable, to make the viewing public see and believe that they were really that bad! They just didn't click! That is it!! Get over it!!
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We then get to this, "Roll-em out and dump-em" comment.

This is a double-edge-sword comment, really!

It is easy to do what you say. A housemate is in the BB house, they will agree to terms and conditions and shall have to tolerate the editing and also, they shall have to put up with the housemates. Also, if their behavior is bad, then they are responsable for the arftermath, when they get out.

This is very true!

BUT, What happened in CBB Jan. Is very different.

This has caused much concern, as, The girl's footage which was shown and not edited out, was not just labelled as "Bullying", but, it was labelled as "Racism". This is the (R) word which has seperated ALL other BB shows and made this one so bad.

A company like Endemol, with their editors for BB have responsablities.

They have the responsability to have mature and intelligent editors. The kind who can recognize racism, when it is plainly obvious that people could have been offended by these remarks.

All the stuff could easily have been edited out. Which would have been the responsable thing to do. The editors are the moderators for the BB show and also have to take the blame for putting ratings and money above this.

Getting back to my "double-edge-sword" comment!

This is where the girl's have their say and also, the right to fight back. It is their right and if they, or their advisors choose to sue or make comments about possible edited out material. Then, you can't blame them.

Also, you can't blame any of the girl's from either, making interviews, going on the TV or even popping to India, either.

This is (Damage) which needs repairing.

Offended people need to be convinced further.
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Those of you, who say that my opinion of what your opinions are, regarding this subject

Is the same as saying that Jo O'Meara is generally a nice person, but others would say that she is a racist bully and that is it.

Hense, "that opinion doesn't coincide with another's opinion."

People disagree and state their points in their own way. Many times, very strongly indeed.

I have had many of my posts critisized and shall naturally pick holes in other people's reasons, whether constructive or pathetic.

All the best, nodisharmony :angel:

Dr43%er

21-03-2007, 01:21 PM

Nodis, would you agree that editing can make people look better as well as worse than they actually are?

nodisharmony

21-03-2007, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by Dr43%er
Nodis, would you agree that editing can make people look better as well as worse than they actually are?

That's debatable...

Sometimes, it can depend on past history?

Many don't like Jo O'Meara right now. Also, many didn't like her before CBB Jan.

If you don't like someone from before, then YOU definately don't like them now. I think that is very clear.

Dr43%er

21-03-2007, 01:34 PM

I am not asking about who likes or dislikes who. Just a simple answer to a very simple question about editing.

Can editing make someone look better as well as worse than they actually are?

nodisharmony

21-03-2007, 01:46 PM

Originally posted by Dr43%er
I am not asking about who likes or dislikes who. Just a simple answer to a very simple question about editing.

Can editing make someone look better as well as worse than they actually are?

Here is an example for you Dr43%er, then my answer.

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If the editors on CBB Jan, had birdwistled out all those comments which made certain people believe that Jo O'Meara was saying comments which may have been construed as having "racial-overtones", then, it would have been very different.

If the editors on CBB Jan, had shown more of the nicer side of Jo O'Meara and when she was dressed in day-clothes, rather than in her dressing-gown and puffing fags and behaving like we saw, it would have made a significant difference.

So, the answer to your question is (YES)

It could have made Jo O'Meara look a lot better.

This is why Jo & Danielle are getting together with their solicitors.

(Payback-Time, perhaps??)

GiRTh

21-03-2007, 01:51 PM

Let me get this straight.

In you first paragraph you say th show is edited. Everybody on this forum is aware of that but what a friggin long winded wffly way of putting it. Why cant you stick to the point and be concise?

In the second paragraph you say that the racism should have been edited out. In fact you imply that it was irresponsible to show it. Why was it irreponsible? Surely we should identify racists? You, of all people, should know that.

The third paragraph is waffle. Well, most of the post is waffle to be honest.

Mrluvaluva

21-03-2007, 01:54 PM

Yeah nodis, I told you before stop writing these huge epics. It pisses people off, and to be honest, most people have stopped reading them, so you are not getting any points accross. Time to move on.

Sunny_01

21-03-2007, 02:02 PM

God what did I do in this lifetime to deserve such a long winded reply to my post! :whistle:

You see the problem is I simply cant be bothered to reply to such a huge post, it ends up like war and peace quote wars or something similar which is what causes arguments and results in topics being locked!

mansi

21-03-2007, 02:07 PM

Originally posted by Sunny_01
God what did I do in this lifetime to deserve such a long winded reply to my post! :whistle:

LOLLL...he does that to just about everyone...

Dr43%er

21-03-2007, 02:16 PM

Ok, nodis. So now you agree that editing can make people look better as well as worse I will move on to my next question.

Were you part of the editing crew or have access to the tapes that Endomol are refusing to hand over that show what exactly was edited?

Once again, a simple yes or no will do.

nodisharmony

21-03-2007, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by GiRTh
Let me get this straight.

In you first paragraph you say th show is edited. Everybody on this forum is aware of that but what a friggin long winded wffly way of putting it. Why cant you stick to the point and be concise?

In the second paragraph you say that the racism should have been edited out. In fact you imply that it was irresponsible to show it. Why was it irreponsible? Surely we should identify racists? You, of all people, should know that.

The third paragraph is waffle. Well, most of the post is waffle to be honest.

Hi GiRTh,

I stated in my first paragraph that the show was edited.

I am very aware that all of us are aware of this, as we are forum members debating CBB

However, there are many who just choose to look through the posts and not say a thing. So it is better to be consise. You are very aware GiRTh and don't hide much on your opinions. Very similar to Jade Goody. Very up-front
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Your second question, regarding the length of that post.

There was a lot to cover and as Jo & Danielle are getting ready to make a case over this, there could be big problems to come. Remember Big Brother 8 is around the corner.
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Your third question, "Why should the show have edited out words and sentances which may have been construed as having "racial-over-tones". (You said Racists! But I shall try to ignore that)

We need to be clear about this.

Endemol state quite clearly, No racism will ever be allowed on Big Brother.

They are very wealthy and also do a great job on all Big Brother & C. Big Brother past shows, before January 2007 wouldn't you agree?

However, this still doesn't answer your question!

The reason the show should have edited out these comments and sentances, is, that it was quite obvious to many thousands of the viewing public, that there was offensive remarks being said, which many viewed Racist.

If thousands of people complained. Then, was Endemol and their team of editors, unaware of this?

Did they just not realise?

Was it a (money) angle?

These types of questions could be asked.

nodisharmony

21-03-2007, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by BAZG
Yeah nodis, I told you before stop writing these huge epics. It p****s people off, and to be honest, most people have stopped reading them, so you are not getting any points accross. Time to move on.

Ignoring everything in that comment, except (Time to move on)

I think it is time to move on and expect more trouble to follow.

I would imply that, if Jo & Danielle decide to sue Endemol, that, even if they both lose, which they will. They will still bring up a lot of bad publicity for the show which tried to destroy them.

I would prefer, if all of the girl's didn't do this.

I shall explain later on.

nodisharmony

21-03-2007, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by Sunny_01
God what did I do in this lifetime to deserve such a long winded reply to my post! :whistle:

You see the problem is I simply cant be bothered to reply to such a huge post, it ends up like war and peace quote wars or something similar which is what causes arguments and results in topics being locked!

Putting the past behind us all and concentrating on the present.

If we all stay on topic, there should be no danger of locking posts or even arguments.

I am not getting involved in any arguments anymore

Just debating the topic subject.

What other's do, is up to them.

Dr43%er

21-03-2007, 02:33 PM

Simple yes or no to my question?

nodisharmony

21-03-2007, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by Dr43%er
Ok, nodis. So now you agree that editing can make people look better as well as worse I will move on to my next question.

Were you part of the editing crew or have access to the tapes that Endomol are refusing to hand over that show what exactly was edited?

Once again, a simple yes or no will do.

Sometimes, Dr43%er, one has to act a bit like a politician.

A simple Yes or No answer doesn't explain every part of what is said. I am sure you agree on that.
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I am not part of the editing crew.

This is very obvious, as, if I was, I wouldn't bring this up.
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I don't have access to the un-cut tapes, which Endemol have in their possession.

Just like I said above, if I had, I certainly wouldn't be bringing this up.
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What was edited out, (which is your third question?)

If I was aware of that, then, the answer to your first two questions would have to be (Yes) and both are not.

Sunny_01

21-03-2007, 02:55 PM

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Originally posted by GiRTh
Let me get this straight.

In you first paragraph you say th show is edited. Everybody on this forum is aware of that but what a friggin long winded wffly way of putting it. Why cant you stick to the point and be concise?

In the second paragraph you say that the racism should have been edited out. In fact you imply that it was irresponsible to show it. Why was it irreponsible? Surely we should identify racists? You, of all people, should know that.

The third paragraph is waffle. Well, most of the post is waffle to be honest.

Hi GiRTh,

I stated in my first paragraph that the show was not edited.

However, there are many who just choose to look through the posts and not say a thing. So it is better to go on and on and on when noone is listening.
_____________________________________________
Your second question, regarding the length of that post.

There was not a lot to cover and because of this I had to do a bit of in-filling with waffle about CSI. Remember Big Brother 8 is around the corner.
_____________________________________________
.

Now you see what a clever piece of editing can do!!!

Dr43%er

21-03-2007, 03:02 PM

So as you admit you don't know what was edited out, how can you make any claims about the editing?

GiRTh

21-03-2007, 03:04 PM

Originally posted by nodisharmony

Hi GiRTh,
Hello.

I stated in my first paragraph that the show was edited.

I am very aware that all of us are aware of this, as we are forum members debating CBB

However, there are many who just choose to look through the posts and not say a thing. So it is better to be consise. You are very aware GiRTh and don't hide much on your opinions. Very similar to Jade Goody. Very up-front

If I'm like Jade then you must worship and adore me. Suddenly I'm a bit scared.
:yuk:

Your second question, regarding the length of that post.

There was a lot to cover and as Jo & Danielle are getting ready to make a case over this, there could be big problems to come. Remember Big Brother 8 is around the corner. Problem is you didn't cover it. In fact you never cover anything you just waffle on the same garbage over and over and over again.
_____________________________________________

Jade Goody Knows this.

That is a fact. Wouldn't you say.
_____________________________________________

Your third question, "Why should the show have edited out words and sentances which may have been construed as having "racial-over-tones". (You said Racists! But I shall try to ignore that)

We need to be clear about this.

Endemol state quite clearly, No racism will ever be allowed on Big Brother.

They are very wealthy and also do a great job on all Big Brother & C. Big Brother past shows, before January 2007 wouldn't you agree?

However, this still doesn't answer your question!

The reason the show should have edited out these comments and sentances, is, that it was quite obvious to many thousands of the viewing public, that there was offensive remarks being said, which many viewed Racist.

If thousands of people complained. Then, was Endemol and their team of editors, unaware of this?

Did they just not realise?

Was it a (money) angle?

These types of questions could be asked.
What a load more waffle and, as usual, you've completely failed to deal with the issue.

Let me answer it with another question that you'll no doubt avoid - If a man was making overtly sexist and racist comments should they be shown of should they be 'whistled out'? Would that man be a 'part time' sexist or racist? How do you decide who is 'part time' and who is full time? I'll be interested to hear your thoughts.

nodisharmony

21-03-2007, 03:46 PM

Originally posted by Sunny_01
Originally posted by nodisharmony
Originally posted by GiRTh
Let me get this straight.

In you first paragraph you say th show is edited. Everybody on this forum is aware of that but what a friggin long winded wffly way of putting it. Why cant you stick to the point and be concise?

In the second paragraph you say that the racism should have been edited out. In fact you imply that it was irresponsible to show it. Why was it irreponsible? Surely we should identify racists? You, of all people, should know that.

The third paragraph is waffle. Well, most of the post is waffle to be honest.

Hi GiRTh,

I stated in my first paragraph that the show was not edited.

However, there are many who just choose to look through the posts and not say a thing. So it is better to go on and on and on when noone is listening.
_____________________________________________
Your second question, regarding the length of that post.

There was not a lot to cover and because of this I had to do a bit of in-filling with waffle about CSI. Remember Big Brother 8 is around the corner.
_____________________________________________
.

Now you see what a clever piece of editing can do!!!

I never say "noone"

I always say "no one"

nodisharmony

21-03-2007, 03:52 PM

Originally posted by Dr43%er
So as you admit you don't know what was edited out, how can you make any claims about the editing?

I don't make any claims.

I just state possibilities.

Apparently, their was meant to be some worse stuff, which was not shown, so the Newspapers say?

But, we don't believe Newspapers, do we?

So, what should I say to you now?

_________________________________________

I shall say, that, if you don't want anyone to make claims regarding editing. Then, why doesn't Endemol want to hand over the tapes then?

If there is nothing to hide, like I sense in your comments? Then, why the charade?

Mrluvaluva

21-03-2007, 03:54 PM

[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony

I shall say, that, if you don't want anyone to make claims regarding editing. Then, why doesn't Endemol want to hand over the tapes then?

If there is nothing to hide, like I sense in your comments? Then, why the charade?

I have posed this question to you before nodis. Try and find out what you said to it!

nodisharmony

21-03-2007, 04:21 PM

Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by nodisharmony

Hi GiRTh,
Hello.

I stated in my first paragraph that the show was edited.

I am very aware that all of us are aware of this, as we are forum members debating CBB

However, there are many who just choose to look through the posts and not say a thing. So it is better to be consise. You are very aware GiRTh and don't hide much on your opinions. Very similar to Jade Goody. Very up-front

If I'm like Jade then you must worship and adore me. Suddenly I'm a bit scared.
:yuk:

Your second question, regarding the length of that post.

There was a lot to cover and as Jo & Danielle are getting ready to make a case over this, there could be big problems to come. Remember Big Brother 8 is around the corner. Problem is you didn't cover it. In fact you never cover anything you just waffle on the same garbage over and over and over again.
_____________________________________________

Jade Goody Knows this.

That is a fact. Wouldn't you say.
_____________________________________________

Your third question, "Why should the show have edited out words and sentances which may have been construed as having "racial-over-tones". (You said Racists! But I shall try to ignore that)

We need to be clear about this.

Endemol state quite clearly, No racism will ever be allowed on Big Brother.

They are very wealthy and also do a great job on all Big Brother & C. Big Brother past shows, before January 2007 wouldn't you agree?

However, this still doesn't answer your question!

The reason the show should have edited out these comments and sentances, is, that it was quite obvious to many thousands of the viewing public, that there was offensive remarks being said, which many viewed Racist.

If thousands of people complained. Then, was Endemol and their team of editors, unaware of this?

Did they just not realise?

Was it a (money) angle?

These types of questions could be asked.
What a load more waffle and, as usual, you've completely failed to deal with the issue.

Let me answer it with another question that you'll no doubt avoid - If a man was making overtly sexist and racist comments should they be shown of should they be 'whistled out'? Would that man be a 'part time' sexist or racist? How do you decide who is 'part time' and who is full time? I'll be interested to hear your thoughts.

Didn't cover what, GiRTh?

I can't understand that! That is what longer posts are about. More explanatory.
________________________________________________
Jade Goody knows what?

She knows about Eskimos. Big Brother told her in the diary room.
________________________________________________
I didn't say that I worship & adore you.

I didn't say that I worship & adore Jade Goody. (no need to be scared)

I was talking actually about the editing of the BB show and covering Jo, Jade & Danielle.

I am more of an angel than you think.

nodisharmony to all the housemates.

I also say that I don't wish for an investigation of Endemol and have also said previously that I look forward to Big Brother 8 and hope that there is less scrutiny and that we can all enjoy it.

If you read my posts instead of scrutinizing them in a bad light and looking for racial-over-tones, which is more about paranoia than actual fact.
________________________________________________
In answer to your last question GiRTh, is, that I have stated what Endemol are very clear on.

They will never allow any housemate to be racist on the Big Brother show.

It is part of the rules. (Do you say that I am wrong?)

Secondly, if the housemates started making "overtly sexist remarks", I am not aware of how the editors of Big Brother would deal with this?

I would imagine that they would use their discression and birdwistle out what they think is over the top.

But, at the same time, scandal brings in the ratings.

Remember Pete Burns & Jodi Marsh?

Hardly a relationship made in heaven?

Jo, Jade & Danielle vs Shilpa is also four people in a bad situation.
________________________________________________
Regarding the last question, regarding Part-Time racism or Part-Time sexism.

If somebody lost it on CBB and came out with comments that were racist on that show, then naturally, they should have been edited out.

This I have already said.

However, as there was no racism on the show, whether part-time or full-time, it doesn't apply here.

The words were only offensive, however, to many people, they did come over and were construed as having racial-over-tones.

Jade Goody said this in interviews and was aware that what she said, could sound like this and understood that part.

But, the "Sexist" part or the "Part-Time Sexist", I can't really comment on, as this doesn't apply to this topic or CBB in January.

Were you talking about a previous BB or CBB GiRTh?

All the best, nodisharmony :angel:

p/s, no need for the hostility...Let's debate this subject instead..

nodisharmony

21-03-2007, 04:28 PM

Originally posted by BAZG
[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony

I shall say, that, if you don't want anyone to make claims regarding editing. Then, why doesn't Endemol want to hand over the tapes then?

If there is nothing to hide, like I sense in your comments? Then, why the charade?

I have posed this question to you before nodis. Try and find out what you said to it!

I haven't spotted it on this topic BAZG

Mrluvaluva

21-03-2007, 04:34 PM

[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony

1. They will never allow any housemate to be racist on the Big Brother show.

It is part of the rules. (Do you say that I am wrong?)

Secondly, if the housemates started making "overtly sexist remarks", I am not aware of how the editors of Big Brother would deal with this?

I would imagine that they would use their discression and birdwistle out what they think is over the top.

2. Remember Pete Burns & Jodi Marsh?

3. However, as there was no racism on the show, whether part-time or full-time, it doesn't apply here.

4. But, the "Sexist" part or the "Part-Time Sexist", I can't really comment on, as this doesn't apply to this topic or CBB in January.

Sorry to step in her Girth. Ok nodis, let's debate the above points:

1. Many people do think comments were racist. It may not offend you or me, but it does offend people. What do you think about the time Jack was bird whistled. Did he say "****" or did he say "****"? What are your views on that?

2. You keep saying this, and I keep telling you we have all debated this several times before. What is your point?

3. I take it you mean this is your opinion. This satement you have made, again, is quite conceited.

4. Is it impossible for you to comment on anything else other than big brother? Or are you avoiding the question. Let me tell you, categorically, there is NO such thing as a "part time racist". You either are or you're not. Quite simple really.

spacebandit

21-03-2007, 05:01 PM

Originally posted by nodisharmony

Didn't cover what, GiRTh?

I can't understand that! That is what longer posts are about. More explanatory.
________________________________________________
Jade Goody knows what?

She knows about Eskimos. Big Brother told her in the diary room.
________________________________________________
I didn't say that I worship & adore you.

I didn't say that I worship & adore Jade Goody. (no need to be scared)

I was talking actually about the editing of the BB show and covering Jo, Jade & Danielle.

I am more of an angel than you think.

nodisharmony to all the housemates.

I also say that I don't wish for an investigation of Endemol and have also said previously that I look forward to Big Brother 8 and hope that there is less scrutiny and that we can all enjoy it.

If you read my posts instead of scrutinizing them in a bad light and looking for racial-over-tones, which is more about paranoia than actual fact.
________________________________________________
In answer to your last question GiRTh, is, that I have stated what Endemol are very clear on.

They will never allow any housemate to be racist on the Big Brother show.

It is part of the rules. (Do you say that I am wrong?)

Secondly, if the housemates started making "overtly sexist remarks", I am not aware of how the editors of Big Brother would deal with this?

I would imagine that they would use their discression and birdwistle out what they think is over the top.

But, at the same time, scandal brings in the ratings.

Remember Pete Burns & Jodi Marsh?

Hardly a relationship made in heaven?

Jo, Jade & Danielle vs Shilpa is also four people in a bad situation.
________________________________________________
Regarding the last question, regarding Part-Time racism or Part-Time sexism.

If somebody lost it on CBB and came out with comments that were racist on that show, then naturally, they should have been edited out.

This I have already said.

However, as there was no racism on the show, whether part-time or full-time, it doesn't apply here.

The words were only offensive, however, to many people, they did come over and were construed as having racial-over-tones.

Jade Goody said this in interviews and was aware that what she said, could sound like this and understood that part.

But, the "Sexist" part or the "Part-Time Sexist", I can't really comment on, as this doesn't apply to this topic or CBB in January.

Were you talking about a previous BB or CBB GiRTh?

All the best, nodisharmony :angel:

p/s, no need for the hostility...Let's debate this subject instead..

No matter how much you waffle about the point, you can't change the simple facts.
tart it up in as much dross as you want, and you do on a daily basis, it doesn't change a thing.

Jade Goody is a vile manipulative sly bully with a penchant for racial insults - as there is no such thing as a part-time racist, though you desperately need there to be in order to make sense of your fascistic little world in relation to human beings , it leaves only the plain and simple truth that if you use racist insults, you are a racist. Full stop. The fat lady has sung.

For instance, Jades *******awallah comment was racist, undeniably so, as were others she made, someone giving someone a nickname, for instance Joe the Dog becomes Joe the W*g - thats is racist, undeniably so.

Not part time racist - but full on jackboot wearing scum racist, a pariah to normal thinking people.

End of list.

Try to argue semantics all you want, you try and fail miserably, also on a daily basis, you cannot change the facts of what was said and done.

Interpret and re-interpret then spin the results - something else you do on a daily basis and still it changes nothing about the plain simple truth, that if you make racist comments like Jade and the other two did then you are a racist.

QED

nodisharmony

21-03-2007, 05:09 PM

Originally posted by BAZG
[i]Originally posted by nodisharmony

1. They will never allow any housemate to be racist on the Big Brother show.

It is part of the rules. (Do you say that I am wrong?)

Secondly, if the housemates started making "overtly sexist remarks", I am not aware of how the editors of Big Brother would deal with this?

I would imagine that they would use their discression and birdwistle out what they think is over the top.

2. Remember Pete Burns & Jodi Marsh?

3. However, as there was no racism on the show, whether part-time or full-time, it doesn't apply here.

4. But, the "Sexist" part or the "Part-Time Sexist", I can't really comment on, as this doesn't apply to this topic or CBB in January.

Sorry to step in her Girth. Ok nodis, let's debate the above points:

1. Many people do think comments were racist. It may not offend you or me, but it does offend people. What do you think about the time Jack was bird whistled. Did he say "****" or did he say "****"? What are your views on that?

2. You keep saying this, and I keep telling you we have all debated this several times before. What is your point?

3. I take it you mean this is your opinion. This satement you have made, again, is quite conceited.

4. Is it impossible for you to comment on anything else other than big brother? Or are you avoiding the question. Let me tell you, categorically, there is NO such thing as a "part time racist". You either are or you're not. Quite simple really.

Hi BAZG,

I understand that many people were offended and have said this before.

Whether you or I were offended or not, is neither here nor there.
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Any bird-whistling out is the editors decision, part of Team-Endemol.

I saw & heard swearing on the Big Brother show. The (C) word that you mentioned, is a swear word.

As the (F) word was used, then, it is up to the editors to decide whether or not to edit that out.

If Jack said the (P) word that you have stated, then, it would be the editors decision, whether or not to allow this.

As the show let three girl's say words and sentances which may have sounded like they had racial-over-tones, then, birdwistling out that (P) word that you state, would still be their decision.

As they chose to bird-wistle out a word which wasn't shown, then the editors did their job in that situation.

But, did the Diary Room deal with this?
________________________________________________

The debate about Pete Burns & Jodi Marsh, I would prefer to debate on a topic about them.

However, I brought it up as a "similar", to what GiRTh was talking about, whereby he brought the "sexist" point up!

Not something I wish to elaborate on in this topic.
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My comment about the "No Racism" part, is made due to three different things.

1) The CPS's decision, whereby they say that there is only offensive remarks said.

2) Shilpa said that she didn't consider the girl's to be racist and Jade, Jo & Danielle + every other housemate have sung from the same song-sheet.

3) Endemol do not allow racism on their show and never would. It is one of their rules and also, if they did allow it, they would be held accountable.

It is all about "chain of command".

The person at the very top is the person who is charged.

No charges have been brought, Yet!
________________________________________________

I am commenting about Celebrity Big Brother, as this is what this debate is about
________________________________________________

Regarding the (Part-Time) racist subject, which I have covered previously and I shall keep it as short as I can below.
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If you are assaulted by an Asian man or have racial or personal attacks made on you

in a moment of anger, a Racist word or comment may slip out, (only in the heat of the moment)

This doesn't make someone a Racist person

It just means that they were angry at the time and were provoked by the agressor.
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This is totally different, than someone who is very racist or generally racist.

People who judge people by the colour of skin only.

That is Un-Acceptable to many people.
----------------------------------------------------

I must not let you fall into the trap, whereby, you assume that the three girls, Jade, Jo & Danielle are like this!

There was nothing Part-Time or Full-Time ever voiced on the CBB Jan. show. We have been over this before.

But, only the girl's themselves will know, whether they fall into this criteria.

We can't say that they are or aren't Part-Timer's.

But, from the edited evidence shown, we can't actually say that.

All the best, nodisharmony :angel:

Mrluvaluva

21-03-2007, 05:15 PM

I don't know why I bothered. We are just going round in circles.

nodisharmony

21-03-2007, 05:21 PM

Originally posted by BAZG
I don't know why I bothered. We are just going round in circles.

If we are?

It must be anti-clockwise.

I am getting hypnotised with your new avatar pic.

Nice one :thumbs:

mansi

21-03-2007, 05:35 PM

^ :rolleyes: ....nodish honestly who are you exactly....someone from jades PR team or a diehard fan of jade?

GiRTh

21-03-2007, 05:56 PM

Originally posted by nodisharmony

Didn't cover what, GiRTh
I can't understand that! That is what longer posts are about. More explanatory.?

You made the original comment 'There was a lot to cover'. If you can't understand your own posts then how do you expect us to? I was asuming that you didn't cover the issue as you never do. Instead you just so=pout the same garbage.

_______________________________________________
Jade Goody knows what?

She knows about Eskimos. Big Brother told her in the diary room.
________________________________________________

Waffle. Again. It was a very crude attempt to mimic your 'style' of writing. What a surprise you didn't pick up on it. You were too busy cutting and pasting the same garbage to post.

I didn't say that I worship & adore you.

I didn't say that I worship & adore Jade Goody. (no need to be scared)

I was talking actually about the editing of the BB show and covering Jo, Jade & Danielle.

I am more of an angel than you think.

nodisharmony to all the housemates.

I also say that I don't wish for an investigation of Endemol and have also said previously that I look forward to Big Brother 8 and hope that there is less scrutiny and that we can all enjoy it
If you read my posts instead of scrutinizing them in a bad light and looking for racial-over-tones, which is more about paranoia than actual fact..
Mainly waffe, again. But i must say I wouldn't find racial undertones in your posts if they weren't there. Perhaps you need to adress that, not me. Shall we talk racism again? Let's do that. Shall I start a thread? And you and me can discuss racism. I'm game if you are.
________________________________________________
In answer to your last question GiRTh, is, that I have stated what Endemol are very clear on.

They will never allow any housemate to be racist on the Big Brother show.

It is part of the rules. (Do you say that I am wrong?)

Secondly, if the housemates started making "overtly sexist remarks", I am not aware of how the editors of Big Brother would deal with this
I would imagine that they would use their discression and birdwistle out what they think is over the top.

But, at the same time, scandal brings in the ratings.

Remember Pete Burns & Jodi Marsh?

Hardly a relationship made in heaven?

Jo, Jade & Danielle vs Shilpa is also four people in a bad situation.?

You seem incalpable of writing more three words without waffling. But again you haven't answered the question - Why do you think that racist and sexist remarks should be 'whistled out'.
________________________________________________
Regarding the last question, regarding Part-Time racism or Part-Time sexism.

If somebody lost it on CBB and came out with comments that were racist on that show, then naturally, they should have been edited out

This I have already said..

Why? If somebody makes a fool of themself why should hte show protect them?

However, as there was no racism on the show, whether part-time or full-time, it doesn't apply here.

The words were only offensive, however, to many people, they did come over and were construed as having racial-over-tones.

Jade Goody said this in interviews and was aware that what she said, could sound like this and understood that part.

But, the "Sexist" part or the "Part-Time Sexist", I can't really comment on, as this doesn't apply to this topic or CBB in January
Were you talking about a previous BB or CBB GiRTh?

All the best, nodisharmony :angel:

p/s, no need for the hostility...Let's debate this subject instead..

Waffle. What are you trying to say among the garbage.

nodisharmony

21-03-2007, 06:11 PM

Originally posted by mansi
^ :rolleyes: ....nodish honestly who are you exactly....someone from jades PR team or a diehard fan of jade?

Hi Mansi,

I know you are not too keen on me, but, I actually prefer to stay invisible, regarding who I am.

I never ask anybody who they are or what they do in real life. It is politer to just debate and make the best job I can, by leaving no stone unturned.

I am glad that Shilpa Shetty has so many fans and she was so nice in the Big Brother house, at least, what I saw in the edited footage.

I have nothing against anybody who supports someone and I haven't a bad word to say about any housemate.

There was bad behavior and I accept that many will be horrified and offended, but I still think it is unfair to judge people, in general, just be edited footage.

All the best, nodisharmony :angel:

mansi

21-03-2007, 06:20 PM

^I don't either...you're the first person on this site i've asked...the reason I ask is i'm curious how someone could have the time to write up essays and debate against almost everyone that says something about jade?.....and you don't have to add in "edited", it's fine if you say footage.....I don't have a problem either against someone supporting someone but I feel you're a bit too supportive... and what's with "All the best, nodisharmony" at the end of every post of yours?...

Mrluvaluva

21-03-2007, 06:57 PM

The ever elusive nodis! The masked crusader! lol

nodisharmony

21-03-2007, 07:02 PM

Originally posted by mansi
^I don't either...you're the first person on this site i've asked...the reason I ask is i'm curious how someone could have the time to write up essays and debate against almost everyone that says something about jade?.....and you don't have to add in "edited", it's fine if you say footage.....I don't have a problem either against someone supporting someone but I feel you're a bit too supportive... and what's with "All the best, nodisharmony" at the end of every post of yours?...

I notice that some supporters do very little to defend the person that they choose to defend or support.

I am going into this, head-first:spin2:

Making sure that all the angles are covered.

This is a very serious situation, which these girl's find themselves in Mansi.

Nobody is going to be popular supporting these three girls, especially Jade Goody, who is not going to win any popularity contests anyway.
_______________________________________________
I use the word, "edited" a lot, as it is the main problem with this situation. Sorry if you don't like it. But this is what gets mentioned, time & time again in the Newspapers and in the mags.

Especially with the CPS's investigation and also, any further investigation.
_______________________________________________
The, "All the best & :angel:" is just something I am doing, to make it more friendly.

Nothing personal. As most of the time, it seems like War.

nodisharmony

21-03-2007, 07:42 PM

Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by nodisharmony

Didn't cover what, GiRTh
I can't understand that! That is what longer posts are about. More explanatory.?

You made the original comment 'There was a lot to cover'. If you can't understand your own posts then how do you expect us to? I was asuming that you didn't cover the issue as you never do. Instead you just so=pout the same garbage.

_______________________________________________
Jade Goody knows what?

She knows about Eskimos. Big Brother told her in the diary room.
________________________________________________

Waffle. Again. It was a very crude attempt to mimic your 'style' of writing. What a surprise you didn't pick up on it. You were too busy cutting and pasting the same garbage to post.

I didn't say that I worship & adore you.

I didn't say that I worship & adore Jade Goody. (no need to be scared)

I was talking actually about the editing of the BB show and covering Jo, Jade & Danielle.

I am more of an angel than you think.

nodisharmony to all the housemates.

I also say that I don't wish for an investigation of Endemol and have also said previously that I look forward to Big Brother 8 and hope that there is less scrutiny and that we can all enjoy it
If you read my posts instead of scrutinizing them in a bad light and looking for racial-over-tones, which is more about paranoia than actual fact..
Mainly waffe, again. But i must say I wouldn't find racial undertones in your posts if they weren't there. Perhaps you need to adress that, not me. Shall we talk racism again? Let's do that. Shall I start a thread? And you and me can discuss racism. I'm game if you are.
________________________________________________
In answer to your last question GiRTh, is, that I have stated what Endemol are very clear on.

They will never allow any housemate to be racist on the Big Brother show.

It is part of the rules. (Do you say that I am wrong?)

Secondly, if the housemates started making "overtly sexist remarks", I am not aware of how the editors of Big Brother would deal with this
I would imagine that they would use their discression and birdwistle out what they think is over the top.

But, at the same time, scandal brings in the ratings.

Remember Pete Burns & Jodi Marsh?

Hardly a relationship made in heaven?

Jo, Jade & Danielle vs Shilpa is also four people in a bad situation.?

You seem incalpable of writing more three words without waffling. But again you haven't answered the question - Why do you think that racist and sexist remarks should be 'whistled out'.
________________________________________________
Regarding the last question, regarding Part-Time racism or Part-Time sexism.

If somebody lost it on CBB and came out with comments that were racist on that show, then naturally, they should have been edited out

This I have already said..

Why? If somebody makes a fool of themself why should hte show protect them?

However, as there was no racism on the show, whether part-time or full-time, it doesn't apply here.

The words were only offensive, however, to many people, they did come over and were construed as having racial-over-tones.

Jade Goody said this in interviews and was aware that what she said, could sound like this and understood that part.

But, the "Sexist" part or the "Part-Time Sexist", I can't really comment on, as this doesn't apply to this topic or CBB in January
Were you talking about a previous BB or CBB GiRTh?

All the best, nodisharmony :angel:

p/s, no need for the hostility...Let's debate this subject instead..

Waffle. What are you trying to say among the garbage.

Hi GiRTh,

The quote:- "There was a lot to cover" was out of a paragraph.

I would never just say that! All the info to that quote, will be within the paragraph from which it was taken.

Everything else should be self explanatory.
______________________________________________
What style of writing? Am I mimicking??

I don't cut & paste, unless it's from an article in a Newspaper.

It would be impossible to do this, as I don't know what question I am going to be asked.

It's not my style and never has been.
______________________________________________
You say, "Racial-Undertones?" I would say that it is "Racial-Overtones", not that important really!! (The wording, that is)

I am not interested in debating racism on a separate thread really. It is more interesting and vital too, to debate CBB Jan. and what happened in there and the aftermath of the show.

This is no longer a game. It is real life and these three girl's need real help and real understanding.
______________________________________________
You ask me:- "Why do you think that racist and sexist remarks should be bird-whistled out?"

The answer is simple,

If Endemol's editors have watched a segment of the show, where a couple of housemates are saying offensive remarks in a conversation, which would probably be heated, or, behind that person's back.

Then, it would be a very clear and consise decision by the editors, to decide which words and comments need editing out.

There are other factors to consider too:-

1) Are these words or comments within a private & personal conversation between two housemates, whereby, they may be talking about somebody who is not a house-mate, but is just their opinion, in the form of "gossip".

These comments cannot be proven necassarily, but, it is not something that Big Brother really wants to make public.

It is better to edit it all out.

If, during that conversation, a racial or sexual sounding remark was there, then it would be a prudent judgement to remove that remark, within that particular conversation.

2) The words or comments may be right in the middle of a big fall-out, just like with the Shilpa vs the three girl's incident.
If these words or comments, were within this big fall-out, then it may be deemed a good judgement call, to keep certain parts or words in, for all of us to see and hear?

I don't believe that is a good decision, with the Shilpa vs the girls incident, as it has caused such concern and offence.

But, I am not the one, making those judgement calls.

3) The words or comments are within a big argument, just like the Jade-Goody vs Shilpa argument, where Jo & Danielle were all instrumental in.

Within this case, once again, it would be better to look at each and every word and if there was something really bad, then it is a prudent decision for the editors to make in that circumstance, and edit-out.

Profits & ratings could rise, but keeping the argument interesting.

Davina McCall said that the argument was un-cut.

I would have still prefered more editing, especially where tempers were flaring and words could have been birdwistled for a less offensive view of the argument.

4) The words or comments are totally on there own and not part of anything, just in the spare of the moment.

Definate editing out and perhaps a warning in the Diary Room, or total expulsion from the BB house.

The Endemol editors are the police in the house and have to make the right judgement call at the right time.
______________________________________________

You ask me:- "Why should the show protect them, if they act foolish?"

It comes down to (how foolish) and other stuff, which you already know

All the best, nodisharmony :angel:

Sunny_01

21-03-2007, 08:29 PM

I think the point that most people are trying to make is that you never really answer anything! you just skirt issues Nodis.

Why say something in 3,000 words that you could probably say in 30! I would much rather be succinct and to the point

Oh and if you are being pedantic about the spelling of noone then maybe you should spell check your posts and check the spelling of the word sentence! :cheer:

spacebandit

21-03-2007, 11:30 PM

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Hi GiRTh,

The quote:- "There was a lot to cover" was out of a paragraph.

I would never just say that! All the info to that quote, will be within the paragraph from which it was taken.

Everything else should be self explanatory.
______________________________________________
What style of writing? Am I mimicking??

I don't cut & paste, unless it's from an article in a Newspaper.

It would be impossible to do this, as I don't know what question I am going to be asked.

It's not my style and never has been.
______________________________________________
You say, "Racial-Undertones?" I would say that it is "Racial-Overtones", not that important really!! (The wording, that is)

I am not interested in debating racism on a separate thread really. It is more interesting and vital too, to debate CBB Jan. and what happened in there and the aftermath of the show.

This is no longer a game. It is real life and these three girl's need real help and real understanding.
______________________________________________
You ask me:- "Why do you think that racist and sexist remarks should be bird-whistled out?"

The answer is simple,

If Endemol's editors have watched a segment of the show, where a couple of housemates are saying offensive remarks in a conversation, which would probably be heated, or, behind that person's back.

Then, it would be a very clear and consise decision by the editors, to decide which words and comments need editing out.

There are other factors to consider too:-

1) Are these words or comments within a private & personal conversation between two housemates, whereby, they may be talking about somebody who is not a house-mate, but is just their opinion, in the form of "gossip".

These comments cannot be proven necassarily, but, it is not something that Big Brother really wants to make public.

It is better to edit it all out.

If, during that conversation, a racial or sexual sounding remark was there, then it would be a prudent judgement to remove that remark, within that particular conversation.

2) The words or comments may be right in the middle of a big fall-out, just like with the Shilpa vs the three girl's incident.
If these words or comments, were within this big fall-out, then it may be deemed a good judgement call, to keep certain parts or words in, for all of us to see and hear?

I don't believe that is a good decision, with the Shilpa vs the girls incident, as it has caused such concern and offence.

But, I am not the one, making those judgement calls.

3) The words or comments are within a big argument, just like the Jade-Goody vs Shilpa argument, where Jo & Danielle were all instrumental in.

Within this case, once again, it would be better to look at each and every word and if there was something really bad, then it is a prudent decision for the editors to make in that circumstance, and edit-out.

Profits & ratings could rise, but keeping the argument interesting.

Davina McCall said that the argument was un-cut.

I would have still prefered more editing, especially where tempers were flaring and words could have been birdwistled for a less offensive view of the argument.

4) The words or comments are totally on there own and not part of anything, just in the spare of the moment.

Definate editing out and perhaps a warning in the Diary Room, or total expulsion from the BB house.

The Endemol editors are the police in the house and have to make the right judgement call at the right time.
______________________________________________

You ask me:- "Why should the show protect them, if they act foolish?"

It comes down to (how foolish) and other stuff, which you already know

All the best, nodisharmony :angel:

Acres of waffle repeating the same old tired trite and pathetic argument, just an apologist for a racist lowlife

If I ever wanted to know what gibberish a chimp let loose with a typewriter would produce, I have just been saved the cost of hiring the chimp and getting a new ribbon for my old typewriter. Thank heaven for small mercies.

Kristen

22-03-2007, 04:40 AM

GiRTh

22-03-2007, 08:42 AM

Originally posted by nodisharmony

Hi GiRTh,

The quote:- "There was a lot to cover" was out of a paragraph.

I would never just say that! All the info to that quote, will be within the paragraph from which it was taken.

Everything else should be self explanatory.
______________________________________________
What style of writing? Am I mimicking??

I don't cut & paste, unless it's from an article in a Newspaper.

It would be impossible to do this, as I don't know what question I am going to be asked.

It's not my style and never has been.
______________________________________________
You say, "Racial-Undertones?" I would say that it is "Racial-Overtones", not that important really!! (The wording, that is)

I am not interested in debating racism on a separate thread really. It is more interesting and vital too, to debate CBB Jan. and what happened in there and the aftermath of the show.

This is no longer a game. It is real life and these three girl's need real help and real understanding.
______________________________________________
You ask me:- "Why do you think that racist and sexist remarks should be bird-whistled out?"

The answer is simple,

If Endemol's editors have watched a segment of the show, where a couple of housemates are saying offensive remarks in a conversation, which would probably be heated, or, behind that person's back.

Then, it would be a very clear and consise decision by the editors, to decide which words and comments need editing out.

There are other factors to consider too:-

1) Are these words or comments within a private & personal conversation between two housemates, whereby, they may be talking about somebody who is not a house-mate, but is just their opinion, in the form of "gossip".

These comments cannot be proven necassarily, but, it is not something that Big Brother really wants to make public.

It is better to edit it all out.

If, during that conversation, a racial or sexual sounding remark was there, then it would be a prudent judgement to remove that remark, within that particular conversation.

2) The words or comments may be right in the middle of a big fall-out, just like with the Shilpa vs the three girl's incident.
If these words or comments, were within this big fall-out, then it may be deemed a good judgement call, to keep certain parts or words in, for all of us to see and hear?

I don't believe that is a good decision, with the Shilpa vs the girls incident, as it has caused such concern and offence.

But, I am not the one, making those judgement calls.

3) The words or comments are within a big argument, just like the Jade-Goody vs Shilpa argument, where Jo & Danielle were all instrumental in.

Within this case, once again, it would be better to look at each and every word and if there was something really bad, then it is a prudent decision for the editors to make in that circumstance, and edit-out.

Profits & ratings could rise, but keeping the argument interesting.

Davina McCall said that the argument was un-cut.

I would have still prefered more editing, especially where tempers were flaring and words could have been birdwistled for a less offensive view of the argument.

4) The words or comments are totally on there own and not part of anything, just in the spare of the moment.

Definate editing out and perhaps a warning in the Diary Room, or total expulsion from the BB house.

The Endemol editors are the police in the house and have to make the right judgement call at the right time.
______________________________________________

You ask me:- "Why should the show protect them, if they act foolish?"

It comes down to (how foolish) and other stuff, which you already know

All the best, nodisharmony :angel: I can't be bothered anymore. I think your views are blinkered to the point of being prejudiced, but you never say anything other than we may not know the truth. Try and make your posts shorter; I can't be bothered to read acres of waffle to find the only point you make. You're not convincing anybody on this forum who already disagreed with you and it's noticeable that the Jade fans on the forum are not springing to your aid. Ask yourself why? This has become very boring either make a point or don't bother posting.

Dr43%er

22-03-2007, 09:16 AM

I never ask anybody who they are or what they do in real life.

Strange that. You questioned what I did no end over at the other place.

The point I was trying to make else where regarding editing is that non of us know what was edited, thus non of us can use editing as an argument for or against what we saw. Non of us have proof.

Ruth

22-03-2007, 10:13 AM

I've had to take nodis off ignore, to understand this thread!

Anyway - apparently Endemol edited out bits which would have made Jade et al look even worse!

Ruth

22-03-2007, 10:15 AM

on another thread, nodisharmony wrote

"I would assume that Endemol wouldn't dare show any comments or sentances which may look offensive in that particular area, which has brought the three girls so much trouble in January."

This kind of implies that the editing was actually in Jade and co's favour. Make your mind up nodis!

Red Moon

22-03-2007, 10:23 AM

Jade Goody is fast becoming the boring housmate ever to be talked about on this site. All these constant arguments going over the same stuff over and over again is such a bore.

I just hope that Jo doesn't blows lid on Jade just because it would result in even more boring Jade Goody threads on the site.

Now I have got that off my chest I can get one with the day.

spacebandit

22-03-2007, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Originally posted by Dr43%er
So as you admit you don't know what was edited out, how can you make any claims about the editing?

I don't make any claims.

I just state possibilities.

Apparently, their was meant to be some worse stuff, which was not shown, so the Newspapers say?

But, we don't believe Newspapers, do we?

1. YOU do make claims

2. No you do not state possibilities, you makje claims as absolutes and intimate you are close to the people involved so your info is first hand.

3. Not only the newspapers

4. Ah, but You do believe the newspapers when it suits your agenda, and quote it as sacrosanct.

Vandalised house - a newspaper story denied by the police
You have posted about that ad nauseum.
Broken windows - a newspaper story denied by the police, they reported one crack in one window and an old crack at that.

Threats against the fat slappers kids - untrue say the police, or rather the police say they have recieved no reports of any such threat, if my kids were threatened the police would know about it, as they would from any parent who was not a congenital liar

and on and on

You quote and allude to the newspaper stories as absolute truth - if it supports you.

nodisharmony

22-03-2007, 06:15 PM

Originally posted by Sunny_01
I think the point that most people are trying to make is that you never really answer anything! you just skirt issues Nodis.

Why say something in 3,000 words that you could probably say in 30! I would much rather be succinct and to the point

Oh and if you are being pedantic about the spelling of noone then maybe you should spell check your posts and check the spelling of the word sentence! :cheer:

Hi Sunny,

Sometimes I elaborate a bit too far. I'd quite agree on that, in certain instances. But, sometimes it is necassary.

A simple Yes/No answer is no good at all.

I have to explain why, how, when, who, which, what if, etc... & on & on, only if it is necassary. Many times it isn't. I do plenty of smaller posts too. Agreed?

My recent Ruth/nodisharmony Q&A session was quite funny really. I couldn't stop laughing that day! Only because, it was inevitable that Ruth would need to pick up on so many points which she brought up in my past posts. Anyway, I think she's had enough and I am sure your slightly glad :rolleyes:

Anyway, I am going to cover Q&A's slightly differently in future, just to keep slight peace! Breaking it up into sections which are easier to moderate.

I know I go on about Jade a bit, but I don't want to drive every Jade-Hater out of their minds. :mad: Otherwise madness and tears follow :mad::bawling:
____________________________________________
Regarding the spelling check, Whoops!!

Slight mis-understanding "Sunny",

I was not on about the mis-spelling, it was actually about the way I write "no one". I always write (no one) and never write (noone)

So, when you made the example, by altering one of my quotes, to make the Jade-Hating camp laugh, it just stuck out at me, that word, (noone) That's all....

I make spelling errors, as I rush through very fast and make little errors, just like the rest of us, which I never point out either.

A little angel is not like that, ha! ha!

All the best, nodisharmony :angel:

nodisharmony

22-03-2007, 06:28 PM

Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by nodisharmony

Hi GiRTh,

The quote:- "There was a lot to cover" was out of a paragraph.

I would never just say that! All the info to that quote, will be within the paragraph from which it was taken.

Everything else should be self explanatory.
______________________________________________
What style of writing? Am I mimicking??

I don't cut & paste, unless it's from an article in a Newspaper.

It would be impossible to do this, as I don't know what question I am going to be asked.

It's not my style and never has been.
______________________________________________
You say, "Racial-Undertones?" I would say that it is "Racial-Overtones", not that important really!! (The wording, that is)

I am not interested in debating racism on a separate thread really. It is more interesting and vital too, to debate CBB Jan. and what happened in there and the aftermath of the show.

This is no longer a game. It is real life and these three girl's need real help and real understanding.
______________________________________________
You ask me:- "Why do you think that racist and sexist remarks should be bird-whistled out?"

The answer is simple,

If Endemol's editors have watched a segment of the show, where a couple of housemates are saying offensive remarks in a conversation, which would probably be heated, or, behind that person's back.

Then, it would be a very clear and consise decision by the editors, to decide which words and comments need editing out.

There are other factors to consider too:-

1) Are these words or comments within a private & personal conversation between two housemates, whereby, they may be talking about somebody who is not a house-mate, but is just their opinion, in the form of "gossip".

These comments cannot be proven necassarily, but, it is not something that Big Brother really wants to make public.

It is better to edit it all out.

If, during that conversation, a racial or sexual sounding remark was there, then it would be a prudent judgement to remove that remark, within that particular conversation.

2) The words or comments may be right in the middle of a big fall-out, just like with the Shilpa vs the three girl's incident.
If these words or comments, were within this big fall-out, then it may be deemed a good judgement call, to keep certain parts or words in, for all of us to see and hear?

I don't believe that is a good decision, with the Shilpa vs the girls incident, as it has caused such concern and offence.

But, I am not the one, making those judgement calls.

3) The words or comments are within a big argument, just like the Jade-Goody vs Shilpa argument, where Jo & Danielle were all instrumental in.

Within this case, once again, it would be better to look at each and every word and if there was something really bad, then it is a prudent decision for the editors to make in that circumstance, and edit-out.

Profits & ratings could rise, but keeping the argument interesting.

Davina McCall said that the argument was un-cut.

I would have still prefered more editing, especially where tempers were flaring and words could have been birdwistled for a less offensive view of the argument.

4) The words or comments are totally on there own and not part of anything, just in the spare of the moment.

Definate editing out and perhaps a warning in the Diary Room, or total expulsion from the BB house.

The Endemol editors are the police in the house and have to make the right judgement call at the right time.
______________________________________________

You ask me:- "Why should the show protect them, if they act foolish?"

It comes down to (how foolish) and other stuff, which you already know

All the best, nodisharmony :angel: I can't be bothered anymore. I think your views are blinkered to the point of being prejudiced, but you never say anything other than we may not know the truth. Try and make your posts shorter; I can't be bothered to read acres of waffle to find the only point you make. You're not convincing anybody on this forum who already disagreed with you and it's noticeable that the Jade fans on the forum are not springing to your aid. Ask yourself why? This has become very boring either make a point or don't bother posting.

If you want shorter posts GiRTh, then, ask one question at a time. That minimises the so-called "Waffling".

p/s, I'm not on here to make you happy, by the way!!!!!!
_________________________________________

The Jade Goody fans on this forum amount to about "5", I think? That is including me as well.

If they don't get involved, then it is one of two reasons:-

1) They enjoy taking part in other topics in other sections of this Big Brother forum and prefer to keep friendly with everyone, even the Jade-Haters, who may want to talk about something else as well as Jade Goody.

2) They look in at what I say, with interest and are quite happy to let my good work continue in my usual way.

Putting some Jade-Haters in a difficult position, by them, not being able to come up with a reasoned response with the prosecution, against Jade, Jo & Danielle.

nodisharmony :angel:

Crystal-Rose

22-03-2007, 06:30 PM

and who would WANT to read that!

Mrluvaluva

22-03-2007, 06:33 PM

Anybody who likes Jade is welcome to post their comments nodis. We ain't a vigilante group you know. This is not "Outlaw".

nodisharmony

22-03-2007, 06:39 PM

Originally posted by Dr43%er

I never ask anybody who they are or what they do in real life.

Strange that. You questioned what I did no end over at the other place.

The point I was trying to make else where regarding editing is that non of us know what was edited, thus non of us can use editing as an argument for or against what we saw. Non of us have proof.

I don't remember questioning you over at Jadegoodyonline.com about what you did?

You shall have to remind me in a polite way. If you do, I shall respond.
_________________________________________
None of us know what was edited.

This is because, Endemol are in the possession of the un-cut tapes and have chosen to keep them private at this time.

None of us can ignore the possibilities, that there were important words and comments not shown, that could make all the difference to the image of Jade, Jo & Danielle.

Jo & Danielle have made their feelings very clear on this!

and some go on about Jack Tweed and his maybe comments.

Isn't that a polite answer Dr43%er? (Let's debate)

Mrluvaluva

22-03-2007, 06:43 PM

Some indeed do go on about Jack and his maybe comments. Myself included.

nodisharmony

22-03-2007, 06:46 PM

Originally posted by Ruth
I've had to take nodis off ignore, to understand this thread!

Anyway - apparently Endemol edited out bits which would have made Jade et al look even worse!

A quick answer to these two questions Ruth.

____________________________________________

I never put "Ignore" up to anybody. I'm too tactful and polite, full stop!!

____________________________________________

Understanding the thread is quite easy. Just click on the topic link and like magic, it comes up in English.

____________________________________________

Endemol's edited out bits, may make Jade, Jo & Danielle look better, as there may be stuff which could improve their image.

Note, that I am not just debating Jade Goody here. Agreed!!

Danielle Lloyd & Jo O'Meara have really spoken out about this.

Are you saying that they are Racist Liars?

Full-time or Part-time?

Dr43%er

22-03-2007, 06:48 PM

None of us can ignore the possibilities, that there were important words and comments not shown, that could make all the difference to the image of Jade, Jo & Danielle.

This is very true. I am not saying this could not have happened. But as we don't know what may have been cut, no one can say what sort of different image could have been created.

Do you agree that it is possible that there could be some cut footage showing the girls (however unlikely you believe it to be) saying overt racist comments?

Hope that was polite enough. Doubt I will see your reply till tomorrow now.

nodisharmony

22-03-2007, 06:54 PM

Originally posted by Ruth
on another thread, nodisharmony wrote

"I would assume that Endemol wouldn't dare show any comments or sentances which may look offensive in that particular area, which has brought the three girls so much trouble in January."

This kind of implies that the editing was actually in Jade and co's favour. Make your mind up nodis!

I don't agree with your assumption from my comment.

Maybe you have got the wrong end of the stick? :colour:

Endemol have editors who have the nouse and the experience to edit in a careful way.

Look at the word (Careful) Ruth.

Think about it?

Why do I say (Careful)

Nothing there, says that Jade is guaranteed to look better or worse. There are no guarantees.

But I am listening to Jo O'Meara and starting to think like her and believe quite well that things were not as we see.

Jo & Danielle have met up and I would prefer, no investigation, full stop...

I am more interested in the "Haters", to lessen.

nodisharmony

22-03-2007, 07:02 PM

Originally posted by Red Moon
Jade Goody is fast becoming the boring housmate ever to be talked about on this site. All these constant arguments going over the same stuff over and over again is such a bore.

I just hope that Jo doesn't blows lid on Jade just because it would result in even more boring Jade Goody threads on the site.

Now I have got that off my chest I can get one with the day.

I know that "Jade Goody" is getting boring to many people.

Many actually hate her voice.

Imagine listening to Jade Goody's voice, over & over & over & over & over & over & over again for 24 hours solid.

Jack Tweed doesn't mind..
____________________________________________
I can't see Jo O'Meara blowing the lid on Jade Goody.

I think that now "Virgin Media" is sponsering (Big Brother 8)

That, it will lessen over the time and we shall me debating the new housemates and all the CBB stuff will dissipate over time.

Just a few small minorities like the annoying (nodisharmony) might mention her, now & again.

WHOOPS!!! that's me! :angel:

I'll take that back!! Ha! Ha! :cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:

nodisharmony

22-03-2007, 07:06 PM

Originally posted by BAZG
Anybody who likes Jade is welcome to post their comments nodis. We ain't a vigilante group you know. This is not "Outlaw".

I agree!

But sometimes, it can feel like the walls are closing in.

Remember, I am trying to do good in a bad situation.

nodisharmony :angel:

nodisharmony

22-03-2007, 07:10 PM

Originally posted by Crystal-Rose
and who would WANT to read that!

I always turn over to another channel on the TV

if I don't like the programme.

Maybe a Shilpa Shetty topic is better suited to someone who feels like Jade Goody, Danielle Lloyd & Jo O'Meara are just bullies instead of decent people.

I feel otherwise and make my feelings, more than clear.

They deserve representation.

nodisharmony :angel:

nodisharmony

22-03-2007, 07:12 PM

Originally posted by BAZG
Some indeed do go on about Jack and his maybe comments. Myself included.

Hi BAZG,

That is what the ( ? ) over editing is also about.

Have Endemol made the right decision and the CPS made the only just decision.

That is the ( ? ) BAZG

nodisharmony :angel:

nodisharmony

22-03-2007, 07:23 PM

Originally posted by Dr43%er

None of us can ignore the possibilities, that there were important words and comments not shown, that could make all the difference to the image of Jade, Jo & Danielle.

This is very true. I am not saying this could not have happened. But as we don't know what may have been cut, no one can say what sort of different image could have been created.

Do you agree that it is possible that there could be some cut footage showing the girls (however unlikely you believe it to be) saying overt racist comments?

Hope that was polite enough. Doubt I will see your reply till tomorrow now.

Jade Goody, Danielle Lloyd & Jo O'Meara have one thing on their minds.

(Let this horrible nightmare that they have experienced, go away forever. Let the hatred which has built up during the show and after the show and even now and in the future, just disappear and go away for good)

The editing on the show, made all three girls look much worse than they really are, Agreed??

If the Endemol editors had bird-whistled out all of the offensive words and comments and instead, showed the nicer stuff, which Jo O'Meara pointed out, it would have been a lot better for all of them.

The word, (racist) would never had been said against any of them. Whether Part-Time or Full-Time or Over-Toned.

None of them were ever racist anyway!!!

But that's another argument, which we have all been through at length before.

_______________________________________________

It is very possible that Jade Goody, Jo O'Meara & Danielle Lloyd & amazingly, Jack Tweed could have said 1,378,497 Racist comments on the show.

But I feel it could be much less or even none at all. Agreed??

Mrluvaluva

22-03-2007, 07:25 PM

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Originally posted by BAZG
Anybody who likes Jade is welcome to post their comments nodis. We ain't a vigilante group you know. This is not "Outlaw".

I agree!

But sometimes, it can feel like the walls are closing in.

Remember, I am trying to do good in a bad situation.

nodisharmony :angel:

Well I am quite aware that you are a "minority" on here. But do not feel intimidated. It is a country of free speech. For everone. We live in such a great and liberated country. That is why I love London so much. Every creed, colour, & of political and sexual persuasion come together. It is great when everyone can come together and accept people for who they are, and there are no predjudices. Live and let live!

spacebandit

22-03-2007, 10:06 PM

Originally posted by BAZG
Anybody who likes Jade is welcome to post their comments nodis. We ain't a vigilante group you know. This is not "Outlaw".

But you can count those who do on the fingers of one hand and still have enough free to eat a bag of chips, while holding a can of irn bru.

Therein lies the rub, practically nobody wants any truck with the racist slapper but some live in total and absolute denial.

nodisharmony

23-03-2007, 07:57 AM

Originally posted by spacebandit
Originally posted by BAZG
Anybody who likes Jade is welcome to post their comments nodis. We ain't a vigilante group you know. This is not "Outlaw".

But you can count those who do on the fingers of one hand and still have enough free to eat a bag of chips, while holding a can of irn bru.

Therein lies the rub, practically nobody wants any truck with the racist slapper but some live in total and absolute denial.

Jade Goody can eat chips & drink Irn Bru anytime she likes.

If she put's on a little weight, she can always stick on her fitness video.

Jade is NOT a racist, as you see:- http://jadegoody.co.uk/

It is in BIG letters, so everyone can read it.

nodisharmony

23-03-2007, 08:02 AM

Originally posted by BAZG
Originally posted by nodisharmony
Originally posted by BAZG
Anybody who likes Jade is welcome to post their comments nodis. We ain't a vigilante group you know. This is not "Outlaw".

I agree!

But sometimes, it can feel like the walls are closing in.

Remember, I am trying to do good in a bad situation.

nodisharmony :angel:

Well I am quite aware that you are a "minority" on here. But do not feel intimidated. It is a country of free speech. For everone. We live in such a great and liberated country. That is why I love London so much. Every creed, colour, & of political and sexual persuasion come together. It is great when everyone can come together and accept people for who they are, and there are no predjudices. Live and let live!

Very nice words BAZG!! Thanks!!

However, one person on this forum, may consider you as siding with a racist celebrity?

I am glad that you have the maturity to ignore them.

"It is a country of free speech", But not so free anymore!

You know what I mean?

Politicians want to clean things up a bit and make the whole world, so nice and clean and safe.

nodisharmony :angel:

Ruth

23-03-2007, 08:05 AM

Originally posted by nodisharmony
A quick answer to these two questions Ruth.

I never put "Ignore" up to anybody. I'm too tactful and polite, full stop!!

Your choice. The ignore button is there for a reason. I used it. Doesn't make me impolite.

Understanding the thread is quite easy. Just click on the topic link and like magic, it comes up in English.

Well now, that wasn't tactful or polite was it? Let me make it clear for you - if I put you on 'ignore', when I look at the thread, like magic, all of your posts disappear. So trying to understand what other people are responding to when I can't see your posts, is not easy. Clear enough for you?

Endemol's edited out bits, may make Jade, Jo & Danielle look better, as there may be stuff which could improve their image.

Yes, there MAY be stuff that makes them look better. It has however been suggested that there was stuff in the edited out parts that makes them look worse.

Danielle Lloyd & Jo O'Meara have really spoken out about this.

Are you saying that they are Racist Liars?

Racist yes. Liars? Maybe - more likely they are just not able to accept the truth.

Full-time or Part-time?

I don't go in for that part-time/full-time rubbish. That's your department.

Ruth

23-03-2007, 08:12 AM

Originally posted by nodisharmony
My recent Ruth/nodisharmony Q&A session was quite funny really. I couldn't stop laughing that day! Only because, it was inevitable that Ruth would need to pick up on so many points which she brought up in my past posts. Anyway, I think she's had enough and I am sure your slightly glad :rolleyes:

You know - you really are a rude person - despite describing yourself as tactful and friendly. Now that gave me a good laugh.

You keep on repeating the same old rubbish over and over again, and yet you have the nerve to say that I pick up on so many points that you made.

Read this very carefully nodisharmony - When you post your pathetic waffle, I quote parts of your posts and answer those parts very specifically. I stick to replying to what YOU write. I do not mention anything in my replies which you have not mentioned in your original post.

You wanted to annoy people. Well done, you've succeeded. You make me sick. Apologies to admin, as no doubt I will get a warning for this post, but I've just about had enough of this idiot's waffle.

Ruth

23-03-2007, 08:13 AM

Originally posted by nodisharmony
However, one person on this forum, may consider you as siding with a racist celebrity?

Snide and nasty. You want to have a go at someone? Put your money where your mouth is, and name them.

Lance

23-03-2007, 09:21 AM

Originally posted by BAZG
Jo’s pal said: “She thinks a book will be a good form of therapy to get it all out of her system.

Financial therapy?

Even more money for Jo.

Dr43%er

23-03-2007, 09:29 AM

Snide and nasty. You want to have a go at someone? Put your money where your mouth is, and name them.

That would be me or space bandit at a guess. I am not bothered if it is. I have made my thoughts very clear. No need to hide from it.

The editing on the show, made all three girls look much worse than they really are, Agreed??

Err, no. As we don't know what was edited (as all ready agreed by you) we can not say whether the editing made them look worse or better.

GiRTh

23-03-2007, 09:42 AM

Originally posted by Ruth
Originally posted by nodisharmony
However, one person on this forum, may consider you as siding with a racist celebrity?

Snide and nasty. You want to have a go at someone? Put your money where your mouth is, and name them. He could mean me. I've called him a racist twice on the forum, but if the shoe fits?

Sunny_01

23-03-2007, 09:50 AM

Right I am resisting the urge to lock this thread because it ends up where one person causes "disharmony" and others suffer because of it!!! (thank BAZG for it still being open)

This thread seriously needs to stay on topic or it will be locked

GiRTh

23-03-2007, 09:52 AM

Lock it Sunny. It's gone and unlikely to come back. He's even managed to wind up Ruth with his implied insults.

Lock it. It's done.

Sunny_01

23-03-2007, 09:53 AM

I would but why should threads be locked because a minority creates "disharmony"

Lets have a go at getting it back on track

Dr43%er

23-03-2007, 09:55 AM

What were we on about again? :wink:

Sunny_01

23-03-2007, 10:00 AM

we were takling about Jo going to blow the lid on Jade in the CBB race row lol. However we were informed by the member who knows all that this is not going to happen! so when it does it will be such a shock :dance2:

Dr43%er

23-03-2007, 10:03 AM

Well, I suppose it will depend on if she thinks it will make her money.

Sunny_01

23-03-2007, 10:07 AM

This is true, all Jade sees is pound signs in everything she does. How can someone who was so vile on CBB still be making money!

Dr43%er

23-03-2007, 10:08 AM

Stupid people.

Sunny_01

23-03-2007, 10:11 AM

Originally posted by Dr43%er
Stupid people.

Sums it up really :flowers:

Dr43%er

23-03-2007, 10:12 AM

Well you asked for posts to be kept short and to the point.

Sunny_01

23-03-2007, 10:16 AM

Originally posted by Dr43%er
Well you asked for posts to be kept short and to the point.

Edited I actually said:

Can I ask a small favour of everyone here please. I know that sometimes it is important to quote peoples posts BUT some of these quotes are getting really long and taking a huge time to both trawl through and read but also to Moderate as appropraite.

So the favour is could people please not quote, requote and quote again making posts HUGE!!!

I am not saying dont quote just try to make them smaller and relevent

GiRTh

23-03-2007, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by Sunny_01
we were takling about Jo going to blow the lid on Jade in the CBB race row lol. However we were informed by the member who knows all that this is not going to happen! so when it does it will be such a shock :dance2: Is that what we were on about? Good job Sunny.

I think it will happen and Jade will be in even more trouble when it does.

nodisharmony

23-03-2007, 11:02 AM

Loads of questions to answer, but I have a few other things to do today, so I shall save you from almost going insane :mad:

___________________________________

But, let's get on about the topic in question? Just to save this topic from getting locked.

I said that this "Jo blows lid on Jade stuff" is NOT going to happen, simply because, when Jo O'Meara appeared on GMTV the other day and Fiona Phillips asked Jo about this, Jo replied that it was the first that she had heard of this? and it was untrue.

Now! Let's just say that Jo O'Meara was lying?

What would happen then?

Well, an educated guess would say to me, that, as Jo said to Fiona that it wasn't going to happen, then, if she went back on that and did make this book, then it would place Jo O'Meara in a difficult position.

Many would say:-

"Hang on a minute?? didn't Jo say to Fiona that she didn't know anything about this?? That it wasn't going to happen."

Do you really expect Jo O'Meara to be that stupid?

Do you really expect Jo O'Meara to place herself in that position. Showing us all and Fiona Phillips that she is just a liar?

Fiona Phillips & GMTV & their many, many viewers would never trust Jo ever again.

It would be in the Newspapers & the TV.

This is so obvious, it is untrue!!!

______________________________________________

The lesson's to be learnt here are very obvious:-

Firstly, watch Jo O'Meara on GMTV when it is advertised that she will be on that show on that day.

Secondly, Never rely on Youtube.com to save the day for you. Sometimes clips from shows don't end up on there.

Lastly, I state evidence and educated opinions and if you can disprove it in the form of a debate, then that is always welcome.

But, if you have the words "racist" & "bully" & even "intense dislike or even hatred" of all three of these girls. Then, I can't see you ever understanding any of this.

nodisharmony :angel:

"

GiRTh

23-03-2007, 11:09 AM

Brief!!!! The last paragraph has only one line that's relevant.

nodisharmony

23-03-2007, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by GiRTh
Brief!!!! The last paragraph has only one line that's relevant.

In your opinion!

I would say it is very explanatory and very clear indeed!

Pick holes in it, if you want?

If you want to imply that Jo O'Meara would be that stupid?

I say it won't happen, end of!!!!

GiRTh

23-03-2007, 11:42 AM

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Originally posted by GiRTh
Brief!!!! The last paragraph has only one line that's relevant.

In your opinion!

I would say it is very explanatory and very clear indeed!

Pick holes in it, if you want?

If you want to imply that Jo O'Meara would be that stupid?

I say it won't happen, end of!!!!
Let's go through it line by line to pick out the points you're making.

The lesson's to be learnt here are very obvious:-

Firstly, watch Jo O'Meara on GMTV when it is advertised that she will be on that show on that day.You're telling me to watch the show on the day Jo is on. There would'nt be much point in me watching the day after would there?

Secondly, Never rely on Youtube.com to save the day for you. Sometimes clips from shows don't end up on there.Are you saying that youtube does not have every event that ever happens. How did you know that? I thought it did. :whistle:

Lastly, I state evidence and educated opinions and if you can disprove it in the form of a debate, then that is always welcome.
This is the only RELEVANT point. Personally I disagree with it but it is relevant.
But, if you have the words "racist" & "bully" & even "intense dislike or even hatred" of all three of these girls. Then, I can't see you ever understanding any of this. This isn't even English.

In MY opinion you waffle. I've just proved it.

Sunny_01

23-03-2007, 03:08 PM

Originally posted by nodisharmony

I said that this "Jo blows lid on Jade stuff" is NOT going to happen, simply because, when Jo O'Meara appeared on GMTV the other day and Fiona Phillips asked Jo about this, Jo replied that it was the first that she had heard of this? and it was untrue.

Now! Let's just say that Jo O'Meara was lying?

What would happen then?

Well, an educated guess would say to me, that, as Jo said to Fiona that it wasn't going to happen, then, if she went back on that and did make this book, then it would place Jo O'Meara in a difficult position.

"

You say that it must be true because she told Fiona Phillips this! How many celebrities do you know have denied things publically when interviewed but then the next thing you know they are doing it anyway. Lets use Brad Pitt as an example here, him and Angelina were defo not getting it on - now they are all loved up baby in tow! I feel that kind of cancels out your argument that it cant be true!

Also I doubt Jo would care to much what people thought of her following an interview on GMTV! she will still go out there and do what she has to too make money!

nodisharmony

23-03-2007, 03:22 PM

Originally posted by Sunny_01
Originally posted by nodisharmony

I said that this "Jo blows lid on Jade stuff" is NOT going to happen, simply because, when Jo O'Meara appeared on GMTV the other day and Fiona Phillips asked Jo about this, Jo replied that it was the first that she had heard of this? and it was untrue.

Now! Let's just say that Jo O'Meara was lying?

What would happen then?

Well, an educated guess would say to me, that, as Jo said to Fiona that it wasn't going to happen, then, if she went back on that and did make this book, then it would place Jo O'Meara in a difficult position.

"

You say that it must be true because she told Fiona Phillips this! How many celebrities do you know have denied things publically when interviewed but then the next thing you know they are doing it anyway. Lets use Brad Pitt as an example here, him and Angelina were defo not getting it on - now they are all loved up baby in tow! I feel that kind of cancels out your argument that it cant be true!

Also I doubt Jo would care to much what people thought of her following an interview on GMTV! she will still go out there and do what she has to too make money!

We can always use examples of past celebrities.

I agree there!

Brad Pitt & Angelina Jolie are worth many Millions of dollars. Also, they are going places and both have a thriving career.

Jo O'Meara is a celebrity, Ex-S Club 7 member who is in a state, due to bad editing on a reality show, that should have recognized offensive material when it was staring them in the face, since many thousand obviously did.

She is going to lose her house and has no real money.

A book about Jade Goody, saying nasty things about her, would only start a civil war between the two of them.

Jade Goody is 8 million quid more powerful than the poor Jo O'Meara. A case not-worth-starting! Jade would be ready to sue, believe-you-me.

Easy to work out...

______________________________________________
Of course, an out-of-court settlement from Endemol may have crossed her mind, while Jo & Danielle started talking.

But that is very stupid to assume!

Endemol's solicitors could tread on all three girls and it would be like crushing three "wood-lice."

Money, what else...
______________________________________________
I would prefer, no book, no investigation and no trouble.

Total nodisharmony instead!!

nodisharmony :angel:

Sunny_01

23-03-2007, 03:26 PM

Originally posted by nodisharmony
We can always use examples of past celebrities.

I agree there!

Brad Pitt & Angelina Jolie are worth many Millions of dollars. Also, they are going places and both have a thriving career.

Jo O'Meara is a celebrity, Ex-S Club 7 member who is in a state, due to bad editing on a reality show, that should have recognized offensive material when it was staring them in the face, since many thousand obviously did.

She is going to lose her house and has no real money.

A book about Jade Goody, saying nasty things about her, would only start a civil war between the two of them.

Jade Goody is 8 million quid more powerful than the poor Jo O'Meara. A case not-worth-starting! Jade would be ready to sue, believe-you-me.

Easy to work out...

I would prefer, no book, no investigation and no trouble.

I still feel that you are blindly thinking that Jo will sit back and say nothing because of the power of Jade and her millions! Jo could see this as an opportunity to make herself some big bucks!

I doubt anyone really cares what you would prefer to be honest and I am sure that they will all go on and do as they merry well please anyway :pat:

nodisharmony

23-03-2007, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by nodisharmony
Originally posted by GiRTh
Brief!!!! The last paragraph has only one line that's relevant.

In your opinion!

I would say it is very explanatory and very clear indeed!

Pick holes in it, if you want?

If you want to imply that Jo O'Meara would be that stupid?

I say it won't happen, end of!!!!
Let's go through it line by line to pick out the points you're making.

The lesson's to be learnt here are very obvious:-

Firstly, watch Jo O'Meara on GMTV when it is advertised that she will be on that show on that day.You're telling me to watch the show on the day Jo is on. There would'nt be much point in me watching the day after would there?

Secondly, Never rely on Youtube.com to save the day for you. Sometimes clips from shows don't end up on there.Are you saying that youtube does not have every event that ever happens. How did you know that? I thought it did. :whistle:

Lastly, I state evidence and educated opinions and if you can disprove it in the form of a debate, then that is always welcome.
This is the only RELEVANT point. Personally I disagree with it but it is relevant.
But, if you have the words "racist" & "bully" & even "intense dislike or even hatred" of all three of these girls. Then, I can't see you ever understanding any of this. This isn't even English.

In MY opinion you waffle. I've just proved it.

GiRTh, If you missed the GMTV programme on that day, don't worry! I'll fill you in.
___________________________________________
Youtube only covers programme clips, etc.. if people place them on there.

Nobody has placed the second GMTV interview on there yet.
___________________________________________
All words are in English, I can't write in any other language.

But I can always use a translater and post it in Italian? But I read the forum rules and I see it is not prefered.

I'm glad about that!!

nodisharmony

23-03-2007, 03:33 PM

Originally posted by Sunny_01
Originally posted by nodisharmony
We can always use examples of past celebrities.

I agree there!

Brad Pitt & Angelina Jolie are worth many Millions of dollars. Also, they are going places and both have a thriving career.

Jo O'Meara is a celebrity, Ex-S Club 7 member who is in a state, due to bad editing on a reality show, that should have recognized offensive material when it was staring them in the face, since many thousand obviously did.

She is going to lose her house and has no real money.

A book about Jade Goody, saying nasty things about her, would only start a civil war between the two of them.

Jade Goody is 8 million quid more powerful than the poor Jo O'Meara. A case not-worth-starting! Jade would be ready to sue, believe-you-me.

Easy to work out...

I would prefer, no book, no investigation and no trouble.

I still feel that you are blindly thinking that Jo will sit back and say nothing because of the power of Jade and her millions! Jo could see this as an opportunity to make herself some big bucks!

I doubt anyone really cares what you would prefer to be honest and I am sure that they will all go on and do as they merry well please anyway :pat:

Some have to agree to disagree.

The majority think the worse of Jade, Jo & Danielle.

Sunny_01

23-03-2007, 03:51 PM

You see I dont actually think the worst of them I just dont like it when others opinions are disregarded as being worthless.

I have no personal feelings about any of the girls as I personally dont know them! I do have feelings about their behaviour which is a little different :flowers:

Red Moon

23-03-2007, 04:01 PM

The only feeling I have is that the Jade is being over talked about. In fact I feel worse now about her than I did when she was in the house.

Bringing up the same stuff again and again doesn't do any of them any good. Be it Jo or a member on the site in my eyes.

I’m just over Jaded.

~Kizwiz~

23-03-2007, 04:03 PM

Originally posted by Red Moon

I’m just over Jaded.

Bravo!!!!! Really really Bravo!!! I take my hat of to you.... and anything else you'd like :wink:

Back on topic, I have no desire to see or hear about the three little witches anymore!

Sunny_01

23-03-2007, 04:06 PM

We are not the only ones who think Jade's behaviour was terrible:

UK Chancellor Gordon Brown: "I understand that in the UK there have already been 10,000 complaints from viewers about these remarks, which people see, rightly, as offensive. he said this at the time of the show! I think that the key there is "rightly as offensive"

UK Culture Secretary Tessa Jowell: "I think this is racism being presented as entertainment, and I think it is disgusting.

"My personal view is that this has caused enormous offence not only abroad but to the Indian community here."

Is she wrong as well??

And lastly the woman herself:

Goody after being evicted said:

"I'm disgusted in myself for saying what I have just seen myself saying. I do not approve of any of my actions and I do not approve of the words that came out of my mouth."

GiRTh

23-03-2007, 04:16 PM

Originally posted by nodisharmony

GiRTh, If you missed the GMTV programme on that day, don't worry! I'll fill you in.
___________________________________________
Youtube only covers programme clips, etc.. if people place them on there.

Nobody has placed the second GMTV interview on there yet.
___________________________________________
All words are in English, I can't write in any other language.

But I can always use a translater and post it in Italian? But I read the forum rules and I see it is not prefered.

I'm glad about that!! Brilliant. Do you remember the original topic? Let me remind you. You made, yet, another post full of waffle, I commented (correctly) that it was all waffle, you countered with the some what over used 'that's your opinion' I then proceeded to (successfully) deconstruct the paragraph, sentence by sentence.

Why have you bothered replying. This proves that you have no idea what original point you're trying to make. You just answer every thing with whatever waffle you happen to think up at the time.

Please waffle another reply. I'm looking forward to it.

Kyoushu

23-03-2007, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by GiRTh
Brief!!!! The last paragraph has only one line that's relevant.

I thought alot of it was relevant. I think you have been unfair to nodisharmony to say this grith.

Mrluvaluva

23-03-2007, 04:55 PM

nodis is now offline

GiRTh

23-03-2007, 04:57 PM

Originally posted by Kyoushu
Originally posted by GiRTh
Brief!!!! The last paragraph has only one line that's relevant.

I thought alot of it was relevant. I think you have been unfair to nodisharmony to say this grith. Really. How is relevant to tell me to watch th GMTV on the day that Jo is on and the time that she is on. There wouldn't be much point in me tuning in two days and 12 hours later now would there. It was irrelevant like most of his posts.

nodisharmony

23-03-2007, 07:02 PM

Originally posted by Ruth
Originally posted by nodisharmony
A quick answer to these two questions Ruth.

I never put "Ignore" up to anybody. I'm too tactful and polite, full stop!!

Your choice. The ignore button is there for a reason. I used it. Doesn't make me impolite.

Understanding the thread is quite easy. Just click on the topic link and like magic, it comes up in English.

Well now, that wasn't tactful or polite was it? Let me make it clear for you - if I put you on 'ignore', when I look at the thread, like magic, all of your posts disappear. So trying to understand what other people are responding to when I can't see your posts, is not easy. Clear enough for you?

Endemol's edited out bits, may make Jade, Jo & Danielle look better, as there may be stuff which could improve their image.

Yes, there MAY be stuff that makes them look better. It has however been suggested that there was stuff in the edited out parts that makes them look worse.

Danielle Lloyd & Jo O'Meara have really spoken out about this.

Are you saying that they are Racist Liars?

Racist yes. Liars? Maybe - more likely they are just not able to accept the truth.

Full-time or Part-time?

I don't go in for that part-time/full-time rubbish. That's your department.

Q&A Ruth vs nodisharmony
____________________________________________
*quote*Your choice. The ignore button is there for a reason. I used it. Doesn't make me impolite.*quote*

____________________________________________
answer:- Fair enough Ruth, it is your choice to ignore words and sentances which don't interest you, or you don't agree with
____________________________________________

*quote*Well now, that wasn't tactful or polite was it? Let me make it clear for you - if I put you on 'ignore', when I look at the thread, like magic, all of your posts disappear. So trying to understand what other people are responding to when I can't see your posts, is not easy. Clear enough for you?*quote*

____________________________________________
answer:- Okay, hardly part of a Jo/Jade discussion??
____________________________________________

*quote*Yes, there MAY be stuff that makes them look better. It has however been suggested that there was stuff in the edited out parts that makes them look worse.*quote*

____________________________________________
answer:- I also read that Endemol said that footage was deleted too. This means, that if an investigation follows, by Danielle & Jo, and the un-edited footage is handed over, then, parts could be missing, which could place the girls in a better light, but like you say Ruth, there could be other stuff.

It is better to leave well alone. That's my advice...
____________________________________________

*quote*Racist yes. Liars? Maybe - more likely they are just not able to accept the truth.*quote*
____________________________________________
answer:- Sorry Ruth, it just won't wash!!! Racist no. Liars, prove it. Accepting the truth, is debatable...
____________________________________________

*quote*I don't go in for that part-time/full-time rubbish. That's your department.*quote*
____________________________________________
answer:- If you don't go for that part-time/full-time racist stuff, that's up to you.

Why is it my department??
----------------------------------------------------

A little late in my reply Ruth, but it has been a busy day for posting.

nodisharmony :angel:

nodisharmony

23-03-2007, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by Dr43%er

Snide and nasty. You want to have a go at someone? Put your money where your mouth is, and name them.

That would be me or space bandit at a guess. I am not bothered if it is. I have made my thoughts very clear. No need to hide from it.[/quote]

You've hit the nail right on the head!!

_____________________________________

Jo O'Meara has her own mind and what she decides to do, will be her decision and no one elses.

Whether Danielle or Jade gets involved.

spacebandit

24-03-2007, 01:46 AM

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Originally posted by spacebandit
Originally posted by BAZG
Anybody who likes Jade is welcome to post their comments nodis. We ain't a vigilante group you know. This is not "Outlaw".

But you can count those who do on the fingers of one hand and still have enough free to eat a bag of chips, while holding a can of irn bru.

Therein lies the rub, practically nobody wants any truck with the racist slapper but some live in total and absolute denial.

Jade Goody can eat chips & drink Irn Bru anytime she likes.

If she put's on a little weight, she can always stick on her fitness video.

Jade is NOT a racist, as you see:- http://jadegoody.co.uk/

It is in BIG letters, so everyone can read it.

Jade used racist insults to attack someone, therefore she is a racist.

I would also regard, for example, corrupting a posters user name on a forum, i.e. Joey Da Dog to Joey Da *** to be the actions of a racist.

And again, therein lies the rub because YOU know all about that - hence your risible classifications of racist, Full Time, Part Time, Accidental - whatever..... to excuse behaviour, Jades, yours, whatever racist filth needs and excuse - the Ku Klux Klans, The National Socialist Party's etc etc.

I just cut the waffle and say that racists are all - S-C-U-M.

regarding Jades fitness video, you seem to imply she works out - with your comment, " If she put's on a little weight, she can always stick on her fitness video."

As we all now know, she doesn't, she may "work out" in small rehearsed doses purely for the camera, and in between makeup up touch ups and hairdressing, but when push comes to shove the lazy fat hypocrite cow gets liposuction.

Your heroine - a bullying, racist congenital liar. No wonder you are as you are. :pat:

Ruth

24-03-2007, 09:33 AM

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Q&A Ruth vs nodisharmony

Ruth vs nodisharmony? This isn't a war!

*quote*Well now, that wasn't tactful or polite was it? Let me make it clear for you - if I put you on 'ignore', when I look at the thread, like magic, all of your posts disappear. So trying to understand what other people are responding to when I can't see your posts, is not easy. Clear enough for you?*quote*

____________________________________________
answer:- Okay, hardly part of a Jo/Jade discussion??

I agree. But it was YOU who first said that you were too tactful or polite to put anyone on ignore (a fact you have actually disproved yourself by being tactless and impolite). So why did you say that if it was not part of the Jo?Jade discussion?

*quote*Yes, there MAY be stuff that makes them look better. It has however been suggested that there was stuff in the edited out parts that makes them look worse.*quote*

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answer:- I also read that Endemol said that footage was deleted too. This means, that if an investigation follows, by Danielle & Jo, and the un-edited footage is handed over, then, parts could be missing, which could place the girls in a better light, but like you say Ruth, there could be other stuff.

It is better to leave well alone. That's my advice...

Yes - but YOU are the one who kept banging on about the fact that there might be stuff in the unseen footage which put the girls in a better light, or put Shilpa in a bad light. Now you are saying it's better to leave well alone. I couldn't agree more.

*quote*Racist yes. Liars? Maybe - more likely they are just not able to accept the truth.*quote*
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answer:- Sorry Ruth, it just won't wash!!! Racist no. Liars, prove it. Accepting the truth, is debatable...

Well it won't wash with you obviously. I think they are racist, based on the things they said in the house. As for liars - can you prove they weren't? Danielle lied about when she got together with Teddy Sheringham. She even slipped up herself about that and said that she had got together with him before she had originally claimed to have got together with him.

*quote*I don't go in for that part-time/full-time rubbish. That's your department.*quote*
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answer:- If you don't go for that part-time/full-time racist stuff, that's up to you.

Why is it my department??

I say it's your department, because you are the person who keeps saying that such a thing exists. Nobody else here seems to agree with you. That's all I meant.

nodisharmony

24-03-2007, 01:30 PM

Originally posted by Ruth
Originally posted by nodisharmony
Q&A Ruth vs nodisharmony

Ruth vs nodisharmony? This isn't a war!

*quote*Well now, that wasn't tactful or polite was it? Let me make it clear for you - if I put you on 'ignore', when I look at the thread, like magic, all of your posts disappear. So trying to understand what other people are responding to when I can't see your posts, is not easy. Clear enough for you?*quote*

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answer:- Okay, hardly part of a Jo/Jade discussion??

I agree. But it was YOU who first said that you were too tactful or polite to put anyone on ignore (a fact you have actually disproved yourself by being tactless and impolite). So why did you say that if it was not part of the Jo?Jade discussion?

*quote*Yes, there MAY be stuff that makes them look better. It has however been suggested that there was stuff in the edited out parts that makes them look worse.*quote*

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answer:- I also read that Endemol said that footage was deleted too. This means, that if an investigation follows, by Danielle & Jo, and the un-edited footage is handed over, then, parts could be missing, which could place the girls in a better light, but like you say Ruth, there could be other stuff.

It is better to leave well alone. That's my advice...

Yes - but YOU are the one who kept banging on about the fact that there might be stuff in the unseen footage which put the girls in a better light, or put Shilpa in a bad light. Now you are saying it's better to leave well alone. I couldn't agree more.

*quote*Racist yes. Liars? Maybe - more likely they are just not able to accept the truth.*quote*
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answer:- Sorry Ruth, it just won't wash!!! Racist no. Liars, prove it. Accepting the truth, is debatable...

Well it won't wash with you obviously. I think they are racist, based on the things they said in the house. As for liars - can you prove they weren't? Danielle lied about when she got together with Teddy Sheringham. She even slipped up herself about that and said that she had got together with him before she had originally claimed to have got together with him.

*quote*I don't go in for that part-time/full-time rubbish. That's your department.*quote*
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answer:- If you don't go for that part-time/full-time racist stuff, that's up to you.

Why is it my department??

I say it's your department, because you are the person who keeps saying that such a thing exists. Nobody else here seems to agree with you. That's all I meant.

Q&A Ruth vs nodisharmony

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*quote*Ruth vs nodisharmony? This isn't a war!
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answer:- I know, but sometimes it can seem that way?

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*quote*I agree. But it was YOU who first said that you were too tactful or polite to put anyone on ignore (a fact you have actually disproved yourself by being tactless and impolite). So why did you say that if it was not part of the Jo?Jade discussion?*quote*

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answer:- I am tactful & polite generally. Friendly too.

However, when I have the "3 girls" and even myself dissed in some way, (I shall'nt elaborate), then naturally, things can change and a microscopic bit of hostility in the tone and wording within my posts can follow.

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*quote*Yes - but YOU are the one who kept banging on about the fact that there might be stuff in the unseen footage which put the girls in a better light, or put Shilpa in a bad light. Now you are saying it's better to leave well alone. I couldn't agree more.*quote*

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answer:- It is a very educated assumption that there will be some damning footage in those hidden tapes which Endemol do not wish to hand over freely, without a court-order.

This definite, Agreed?

However, as I read that Endemol have said that certain material was deleted in the past, I can only assume, that by now, anything which could go against them in a future investigation, may have dissappeared by now?

So an investigation, started by Danielle Lloyd, with Jo O'Meara by her side, would be futile, in my opinion.

I would imagine that Jade Goody would stay away from this, as her advisors would be looking after her interests too.

Try to read between the lines here Ruth.

There's more than meets the eye there and even here.
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*quote*Well it won't wash with you obviously. I think they are racist, based on the things they said in the house. As for liars - can you prove they weren't? Danielle lied about when she got together with Teddy Sheringham. She even slipped up herself about that and said that she had got together with him before she had originally claimed to have got together with him.*quote*

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answer:- I am glad that you have noticed that it won't wash me me Ruth, that is quite plainly obvious, as I am on the defence side of all three girls.

If you think the words and comments were racist, that is your view and your right.

But, if I say that it was "Accidental maybe racial-over-tones", or as the CPS conclude, only offensive words and comments, then naturally, I shall have my view, which seems quite educated as the facts start to come through slowly.

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Danielle Lloyd is never out of the Newspapers and if you are comparing from what has been aired in the news and comparing it with the edited footage in the BB house, then it is a hard argument to deal with.

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*quote*I say it's your department, because you are the person who keeps saying that such a thing exists. Nobody else here seems to agree with you. That's all I meant*quote*

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answer:- Okay.. I shall take note of what you say on that point and ponder. :rolleyes:

nodisharmony :angel: