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DemolitionRed
27-11-2016, 10:18 AM
The British government rejects the UN document which claims UK welfare reforms are guilty of “grave and systematic violations” of disabled people’s rights.

Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37899305

Kizzy
27-11-2016, 09:34 PM
Yes, I think that was a big reason for us being hauled out of the EU... They were investigating us for human rights violations :/

DemolitionRed
27-11-2016, 10:20 PM
What makes it so bad is that it was clearly a conscious decision to target disabled people, as they could be portrayed as a drain on the rest of society. The last 6 years have put rights for disabled people back 50 years, which is nothing short of a national scandal which should be headline news on the television and in newspapers. That it isn't is nothing short of a disgrace.

Kizzy
27-11-2016, 10:37 PM
Yup, disabled people serve no purpose and the elderly have served their purpose therefore they should do the right thing and off themselves.
Same with the homeless, poor and mentally ill, if they can't get their act together then...

Maru
28-11-2016, 08:16 AM
Hi DR :wavey:

Curious, but why is the UN looking specifically into UK welfare? What do they get out of this? Never heard of an American study here from them or really anyone externally, so it's new territory to me. Or maybe just never heard one cited anyway. Would be nice if we had an outsiders perspective to put pressure... every little bit hwlps.

I have nothing else really to contribute because not sure how our systems compare with the UK. I know our Disability in general is not that great. Very hard to make ends meet, if at all. Our healthcare is OK, but finding a doctor that takes Medicare can be difficult at times. A great doctor anyway. Obamacare has made that harder because more have dropped the coverage of those patients because it is hard to do business with Medicare specifically.

DemolitionRed
28-11-2016, 09:07 AM
Hi DR :wavey:

Curious, but why is the UN looking specifically into UK welfare? What do they get out of this? Never heard of an American study here from them or really anyone externally, so it's new territory to me. Or maybe just never heard one cited anyway. Would be nice if we had an outsiders perspective to put pressure... every little bit hwlps.

I have nothing else really to contribute because not sure how our systems compare with the UK. I know our Disability in general is not that great. Very hard to make ends meet, if at all. Our healthcare is OK, but finding a doctor that takes Medicare can be difficult at times. A great doctor anyway. Obamacare has made that harder because more have dropped the coverage of those patients because it is hard to do business with Medicare specifically.

Hi Maru

It comes under the 'World Health organization' division and is one of the six principle organs of the UN. The ICJ have an obligation to look into complaints about health and welfare of UN member states.

Kizzy
28-11-2016, 02:32 PM
Hi DR :wavey:

Curious, but why is the UN looking specifically into UK welfare? What do they get out of this? Never heard of an American study here from them or really anyone externally, so it's new territory to me. Or maybe just never heard one cited anyway. Would be nice if we had an outsiders perspective to put pressure... every little bit hwlps.

I have nothing else really to contribute because not sure how our systems compare with the UK. I know our Disability in general is not that great. Very hard to make ends meet, if at all. Our healthcare is OK, but finding a doctor that takes Medicare can be difficult at times. A great doctor anyway. Obamacare has made that harder because more have dropped the coverage of those patients because it is hard to do business with Medicare specifically.

Why wouldn't they, is it not a benefit that the UN are self regulating? They are not 'outsiders'...We are united, as in states or kingdoms.

Maru
28-11-2016, 05:46 PM
Hi Maru

It comes under the 'World Health organization' division and is one of the six principle organs of the UN. The ICJ have an obligation to look into complaints about health and welfare of UN member states.

I know we work with them on a lot of things diplomatically speaking, but didn't know they went as far as to conduct studies on all members... we learn something new everyday!

I haven't seen you around recently. Hope you are back to post!...

DemolitionRed
28-11-2016, 06:21 PM
I know we work with them on a lot of things diplomatically speaking, but didn't know they went as far as to conduct studies on all members... we learn something new everyday!

I haven't seen you around recently. Hope you are back to post!...

Thanks, I just needed a break from here for a while but yeah, I’m back for now.

joeysteele
28-11-2016, 08:39 PM
This is a really strong report DemRed, you are right it got little attention at all.
That says a lot about the UK and this govt. really and it's a disgrace.

DemolitionRed
28-11-2016, 09:34 PM
This is a really strong report DemRed, you are right it got little attention at all.
That says a lot about the UK and this govt. really and it's a disgrace.

It does indeed Joey.

McDonnell pledges Labour will force government to debate UN ‘rights violations’ report. http://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/11577-2/

user104658
28-11-2016, 09:42 PM
Thanks, I just needed a break from here for a while but yeah, I’m back for now.

But the TiBB you've returned to isn't the TiBB you remember :worry:

DemolitionRed
29-11-2016, 07:58 AM
But the TiBB you've returned to isn't the TiBB you remember :worry:

Hi TS. I didn't leave because I didn't have confidence in my argument :hee:
but because, at least in this place, I'd lost the ability to ignore the trolls.