Paul Nuttall New UKIP Leader

[arista]

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Paul is a hard Worker.

Sock to Em'

http://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/ukipdev/pages/2617/meta_images/original/Paul_Nuttall.jpeg?1431618176

[smudgie]

Yeah, Nigel sort of let the cat out of the bag ahead of the result.

[Crimson Dynamo]

seems like a solid appointment

[Black Dagger]

http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2016/11/28/the-extreme-right-wing-views-of-new-ukip-leader-paul-nuttall

Yes, he seems like the perfect leader for such a loathsome party x

[UserSince2005]

The new messiah?

[Tom4784]

http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2016/11/28/the-extreme-right-wing-views-of-new-ukip-leader-paul-nuttall

Yes, he seems like the perfect leader for such a loathsome party x

UKKKIP?

[Jack_]

As I say every time, Nige will be back within 18 months so who cares

[Firewire]

Ugly

[Crimson Dynamo]

He does seem a lot better than the anti-Semitic one who is in charge of labour tho?

[arista]

As I say every time, Nige will be back within 18 months so who cares


No Nige is half the time in USA, now


This man is a Grafter
Good luck to him

[Kizzy]

UKKKIP?

:joker::joker::joker:

[Alf]

Nuttall winning is bad news for Labour, He can speak to the working class in a way that Corbyn can't.

[Tom4784]

Nuttall winning is bad news for Labour, He can speak to the working class in a way that Corbyn can't.

As long as they are white straight males.

[Alf]

As long as they are white straight males.Still playing identity politics I see, you're obsessed with separating and pigeon holing groups of people.

[Black Dagger]

Considering one of his policies is wanting jobs to be able to discriminate against the gay community then why shouldn't he?

[reece(:]

Another grotesque individual

[arista]

Another grotesque individual

No reece
he has been QT BBC1HD
loads of times.



He is a Clever man
no need to knock him.


I do not Support UKIP
but as the got 4 million votes
they deserve RESPECT
to be honest.

[arista]

Considering one of his policies is wanting jobs to be able to discriminate against the gay community then why shouldn't he?


Fake News BD
As it never got put forward enough.


He is Leader now
none of the past matters
unless its illegal.

[arista]

As long as they are white straight males.


Dezzy they are a many Asian
and black UKIP folks
Infact one black UKIP fella has been on DP for many years.


Paul will welcome all working class
and lower the entry fee

Paul has been the deputy leader
for 6 years

He is taking Labour voters
no joke

[Crimson Dynamo]

Another grotesque individual

Which politician isn't in your view?

[arista]

Considering one of his policies is wanting jobs to be able to discriminate against the gay community then why shouldn't he?


BD
please get Updated

The new UKIP Deputy is a GAY MEP
Peter Whittle (been on DP BBC2HD loads of times)
http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/139/590x/PETER-WHITTLE-720535.jpg

He was just on
Ch5HD News 6:30PM LIVE

Proves Paul
is not anti gay -- From TODAY

[joeysteele]

I have never cared for Nuttall, they have some great names in UKIP, Nuttall, Hookem,

I think UKIP is a hard party to lead,they have the same problems as the Lib Dems in many ways, to win seats in the South, they need to appeal to Conservative voters and further North, they then need to appeal to Labour voters.

The 2 are incompatible,you cannot have policies that relate to and attract the Southern Conservatives, which will then also pull in Labour votes elsewhere.
Equally so vice versa too.

Add to that, the fact that to start winning seats on a large scale UKIP would need to be around 30% on the voting and would also need both Labour and the Conservatives to be down on something like 24% each.
Under this incredibly ridiculous now electoral system we have in the UK.

Across the board, from the UUP,SDLP,Sinn Feinn and Alliance parties in Northern Ireland, on the mainland the SNP,Plaid Cymru,Greens, Lib Dems and Labour, UKIP have really little and even nothing at all for supporters of all those parties.

They may have some attractive policies as to the DUP and certainly for Conservative supporters.
However voting UKIP will only ensure longer terms of Conservative govt. more than likely.

They may grab the odd seat here and there but to talk of being the opposition or having any realistic chance of governing, is a pipedream, under the first past the post system of elections.
The one party that certainly will never give UKIP the PR elections that would help it get a decent breakthrough and also others,is the Conservative party.

For me, I think and hope, once the leaving of the EU begins,then UKIP will be the party irrelevant in politics and with no change to the electoral system seeming ever likely in the foreseeable future, they likely hopefully will just fizzle out.

[Crimson Dynamo]

BD
please get Updated

The new UKIP Deputy is a GAY MEP
Peter Whittle (been on DP BBC2HD loads of times)
http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/139/590x/PETER-WHITTLE-720535.jpg

He was just on
Ch5HD News 6:30PM LIVE

Proves Paul
is not anti gay -- From TODAY

:clap1:

UKIP has to be the most inclusive party in politics at the mo. Paul will galvanise and modernise. Good news.

[Johnnyuk123]

:clap1:

UKIP has to be the most inclusive party in politics at the mo. Paul will galvanise and modernise. Good news.

They are LT. Paul is a great guy who is very inclusive and will help take the party forward which can only be a good thing. He is a very positive person and that has to be commended. :clap1:

[user104658]

As I say every time, Nige will be back within 18 months so who cares

Nigel Farage will have been ****ed to death by Trump in 18 months time. He will literally have suffered an anal fissure so severe that he will have bled to death.

[Withano]

"Paul Nuttall begins first day as UKIP leader by preparing resignation speech"

[Kizzy]

tKEsyIuTrO8

[Cherie]

:joker:

[arista]

"Paul Nuttall begins first day as UKIP leader by preparing resignation speech"

No need
he is in for the long run.

[Withano]

tKEsyIuTrO8

:joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

tKEsyIuTrO8

Its not funny, he is not funny, he has never been funny.

[Alf]

tKEsyIuTrO8Would you like me to counter that with Bernard Manning?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Would you like me to counter that with Bernard Manning?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/staticarchive/f333076dd70d65609f183c807dbc52c691a075a6.jpg

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Northern Monkey]

Yeah alot of rubbish seems to get spouted about UKIP and indeed Paul Nuttall.I think he's the right man for the job.If you ever listen to him on Question Time he's often the one who makes the most sense and sometimes the ONLY one making any sense:laugh:
I did think that there was no need for UKIP after the referendum but with all these sour remainers who keep trying to throw a spanner in the works of BREXIT it's actually giving UKIP more reason to stay relevant.Infact if these remainers actually did manage to reverse BREXIT then UKIP would get massive support.So it's win win for them really.

[Crimson Dynamo]

If we learned anything from 2016 its that UKIP are relevant and are important and that the critics were wrong (and still are wrong) to dismiss them in such a nasty bigoted way.

[Tom4784]

Still playing identity politics I see, you're obsessed with separating and pigeon holing groups of people.

You can try to discredit equal rights all you want, it's not going to work.

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/11/29/11/3AD47A6000000578-0-image-a-23_1480417540454.jpg

[Kizzy]

If we learned anything from 2016 its that UKIP are relevant and are important and that the critics were wrong (and still are wrong) to dismiss them in such a nasty bigoted way.

Define 'bigot'...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Define 'bigot'...

anyone who, by thinking that they are right and in the nmajority, feel able to personally abuse people who do not subscribe to their way of the world and thinking.


"yeah Farage is a moron and anyone who voted for him is a wanker and a racist"

"i hope he dies"



etc

etc

[Withano]

If we learned anything from 2016 its that UKIP are relevant and are important and that the critics were wrong (and still are wrong) to dismiss them in such a nasty bigoted way.

Bigot is a funny word. Like if all racists are bigots, and all those who oppose racism are bigots for not accepting their views.. Then who isnt a bigot?

(I'm not calling UKIP racists, but I think at this point its safe to acknowledge that they got the bad rep from some of the racist/homophobic party leaders).

I just think the word is a bit of a nothing statement, especially in the context that you've used.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Bigot is a funny word. Like if all racists are bigots, and all those who oppose racism are bigots for not accepting their views.. Then who isnt a bigot?

(I'm not calling UKIP racists, but I think at this point its safe to acknowledge that they got the bad rep from some of the racist/homophobic party leaders).

I just think the word is a bit of a nothing statement, especially in the context that you've used.

I am glad, however, that you agreed with the main part

"that UKIP are relevant and are important and that the critics were wrong"

[Withano]

I am glad, however, that you agreed with the main part

"that UKIP are relevant and are important and that the critics were wrong"

They were relevant in the years leading up to the election too. Joint 10th most relevant in the United Kingdom right now.., so less important than the press they get, but nothing to ignore.

[reece(:]

Which politician isn't in your view?
Wonderful Caz Lucas

[Brillopad]

anyone who, by thinking that they are right and in the nmajority, feel able to personally abuse people who do not subscribe to their way of the world and thinking.


"yeah Farage is a moron and anyone who voted for him is a wanker and a racist"

"i hope he dies"



etc

etc

Here, here it does of course work both ways. None so blind as those that will not see.

[Kizzy]

anyone who, by thinking that they are right and in the nmajority, feel able to personally abuse people who do not subscribe to their way of the world and thinking.


"yeah Farage is a moron and anyone who voted for him is a wanker and a racist"

"i hope he dies"



etc

etc

That's not the correct definition, and I have never said anything like that please don't insinuate I have.

[Northern Monkey]

bigotry is intolerance towards those who hold different opinions from oneself.Happens alot on here:laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

That's not the correct definition, and I have never said anything like that please don't insinuate I have.

i didnt :shrug:

if you can show me where I did that would be great

:0

[user104658]

bigotry is intolerance towards those who hold different opinions from oneself. Happens alot on here:laugh:

It doesn't, people are confused about the definition though only slightly, although you're defining it correctly.

Bigotry is intolerance of a person overall because of the views they hold. It has nothing to do with tolerance of the viewpoint itself. You can tolerate, accept and even like a person who holds one or more views that you find abhorrent and you do NT simply have to accept those views and leave it at that... you can (and in some cases, should) try your damnedest to let that person know that you find their views unacceptable and to convince them to change their views. This is not personal intolerance. So long as you are not harming nor discriminating against someone because of the views they hold in situations where those views are irrelevant, then challenging and refusing to accept someone's opinions is not bigotry.

[user104658]

anyone who, by thinking that they are right and in the nmajority, feel able to personally abuse people who do not subscribe to their way of the world and thinking.


It also has absolutely nothing to do with "being in the majority" or "feeling in the majority".

The second part is correct but, again, attacking someone's views and opinions does not constitute "personally abusing" that person.

[user104658]

"I think you are completely wrong to think that. It is an abhorrent thing to think." - Not bigotry.

"You only believe that because you are too stupid to understand, if you were smarter you would get it, and I don't converse with stupid people." - probably bigotry.


The dismissive term "Loony Left", for example, is a lovely little self-contained example of bigotry.

[empire]

paul nuttall is a good pick for ukip, he is a working class lad, and the media,labour supporters, the left-wing, must realise that ukip are the main party for the british working class voters if you like it or not, if parliament does the most anti-democratic thing and blocks article 50 or refuses to free britain from the shackles of the EU, then nigel farage will be back to lead the party for 2020, the blocking of brexit would mean the main parties would lose the majority of their seats in parliament, you would end up with a ukip-tory coalition, or a ukip cabinet in number 10,

[King Gizzard]

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Horrible ****. Although we didn't need this to confirm it

[Crimson Dynamo]

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Horrible ****. Although we didn't need this to confirm it

he did however lose someone he knew and he was there. all that is a some wrong wording on his website

but feel free to spread fake news

[King Gizzard]

Fake news? :joker:

he admitted it himself. Twice he's said he lost "close friends" and when called up on it forced to admit he lost someone "he knew". Much different from "close friends". All for political gain. Disgusting

[Crimson Dynamo]

Fake news? :joker:

he admitted it himself. Twice he's said he lost "close friends" and when called up on it forced to admit he lost someone "he knew". Much different from "close friends". All for political gain. Disgusting

just a mistake easily made and not sure what evidence you have for "political gain"?

seems that is what you are intent on doing, from the deaths of others


shocking

[Kizzy]

Nuttall also repeated the claim in a second blog post where he attacks the Conservative government for reportedly seeking to block the release of information about the tragedy.=


liar.

The MEP said local people would be "disgusted by these cowardly moves to hide the truth," about the tragedy where "96 Liverpool fans including close personal friends of mine lost their lives."


http://uk.businessinsider.com/paul-nuttall-ukip-deletes-blog-claiming-he-lost-a-close-personal-friend-in-hillsborough-tragedy-2017-2

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nuttall also repeated the claim in a second blog post where he attacks the Conservative government for reportedly seeking to block the release of information about the tragedy.=


liar.

The MEP said local people would be "disgusted by these cowardly moves to hide the truth," about the tragedy where "96 Liverpool fans including close personal friends of mine lost their lives."


http://uk.businessinsider.com/paul-nuttall-ukip-deletes-blog-claiming-he-lost-a-close-personal-friend-in-hillsborough-tragedy-2017-2

they were friends but perhaps in the heat of debate he said they were close, death can have that effect. Poor guy was there that day, you were not, leave him alone with his grief

[Withano]

This man has accepted he was wrong, theres really no need for Team UKIP to defend him after he admits his mistake. He used it as a deliberate attempt to further his argument, that is sad, and Nuttall knows this.

(Did he apologise or only admit?)

[Kizzy]

This just in....Labour win Stoke! :hehe:


Maybe that's why the suicide rate is so high, and there is no money for mental health.... because not enough people recognise it as important?

[MTVN]

they were friends but perhaps in the heat of debate he said they were close, death can have that effect. Poor guy was there that day, you were not, leave him alone with his grief

Well he's forced the resignation of a Ukip press officer for misrepresenting it so he's trying to wriggle free from any accountability

Similar to how he claimed he knew nothing about the false claims on his website that he had completed a PhD or played professional football

This is a guy who used to write a column for the Sunday Sport so not surprising he has employed some fabrication in his time

[arista]

Well he's forced the resignation of a Ukip press officer for misrepresenting it so he's trying to wriggle free from any accountability

Similar to how he claimed he knew nothing about the false claims on his website that he had completed a PhD or played professional football

This is a guy who used to write a column for the Sunday Sport so not surprising he has employed some fabrication in his time


MTVN
be more fair , he was
on the "Liverpool Radio Video"
said he was not aware of it. And said sorry.
That is the End of it.
The Labour Party are rushing to find anything on him
because of the local election next week.

All Out Politics (mon - fri) 10AM Adam Boulton
SkyNewsHD - worth recording
getting more viewers this week
as DP on BBC2HD are on Holiday with the Lazy MP's

[Crimson Dynamo]

Well he's forced the resignation of a Ukip press officer for misrepresenting it so he's trying to wriggle free from any accountability

Similar to how he claimed he knew nothing about the false claims on his website that he had completed a PhD or played professional football

This is a guy who used to write a column for the Sunday Sport so not surprising he has employed some fabrication in his time

It was his PR embellishing (its her job) and probably not understanding the gravity of the distinction. She offered her resignation. End of story

[arista]

"She offered her resignation. End of story "


Bang On Right LT

[Kizzy]

It was his PR embellishing (its her job) and probably not understanding the gravity of the distinction. She offered her resignation. End of story

It's not the end of the story though, the nutty saga continues...

http://www.thecanary.co/2017/02/15/ukips-leader-thinks-hes-woods-walks-straight-another-fiasco/

[Black Dagger]

Lmao @ him actually being defended.

[Kizzy]

Oh dear....

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/paul-nuttall-ukip-hustings-stoke-patrick-flynn-hillsborough-controversy-by-election-a7583386.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/paul-nuttall-hillsborough-claim-ukip-leader-website-offline-stoke-on-trent-by-election-candidate-a7583261.html

[arista]

Yes Kizzy
he is not there.

I am sure we will find out why later.


Nothing but Labour whispers

[Crimson Dynamo]

heaven forbid he is not feeling well

[MTVN]

MTVN
be more fair , he was
on the "Liverpool Radio Video"
said he was not aware of it. And said sorry.
That is the End of it.
The Labour Party are rushing to find anything on him
because of the local election next week.

All Out Politics (mon - fri) 10AM Adam Boulton
SkyNewsHD - worth recording
getting more viewers this week
as DP on BBC2HD are on Holiday with the Lazy MP's

It was his PR embellishing (its her job) and probably not understanding the gravity of the distinction. She offered her resignation. End of story

So he was also not aware of a BBC article quoting him saying the same a year earlier back in 2011?

Paul Nuttall’s press officer offered her resignation over the “close personal friends” claim she is said to have written on his website in 2012. Yet that was not the only time Nuttall’s name was associated with those words. In August 2011 the BBC quoted him making the same claim – apparently taken from his press release:

https://i0.wp.com/order-order.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Screen-Shot-2017-02-15-at-09.01.33.png?resize=540%2C272&ssl=1

So twice Nuttall’s team wrote statements claiming he had “close personal friends” at Hillsborough, and one of them was published by the BBC. And Nuttall says he knew nothing about it…

https://order-order.com/2017/02/15/nuttall-made-close-personal-friends-claim-2011-well/

[Crimson Dynamo]

So he was also not aware of a BBC article quoting him saying the same a year earlier back in 2011?

who is to say that article quoted him correctly, its just someone hearing something and then typing it up later?

[Kizzy]

Maybe it's just an alternative fact?

[arista]

Kizzy He is Live now in Bolton


All your 2 links - trash.

[Kizzy]

Kizzy He is Live now in Bolton


All your 2 links - trash.

At least I have links... :idc:

[Kizzy]

Come on Stoke... You deserve better than this :/

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/ukip-paul-nuttall-conference-speech-vat-fish-and-chips-announcement-a7585031.html

[user104658]

And Ukip will also fight to take fish and chips out of VAT, he will say. Under current rules the traditional British dinner carries a 20% VAT charge.

Is this not just UKIP in a nutshell? :joker:. Fish and chips, a pint of warm beer and a ****ing flat-cap. Basically a bunch of sad, bitter old lads reminiscing about "the good old days" and trying to preserve the most banal, outdated aspects of British life. Yawn. "I have a vision for the future! And it is 1962."

[Crimson Dynamo]

Is this not just UKIP in a nutshell? :joker:. Fish and chips, a pint of warm beer and a ****ing flat-cap. Basically a bunch of sad, bitter old lads reminiscing about "the good old days" and trying to preserve the most banal, outdated aspects of British life. Yawn. "I have a vision for the future! And it is 1962."

just keep insulting millions of people in Britain TS

keep stereotyping

[Kizzy]

Aging yuppies... aw, you have to feel sorry for them, give them a brick phone, a pinstripe suit (with braces) and a filofax and they'll be in Thatchers heaven.

[user104658]

just keep insulting millions of people in Britain TS

keep stereotyping

It wasn't me, it was UKIP :shrug:.

"Give them a cheaper chippy tea! They'll like that and vote for us! And no tobacco tax but ONLY on cigars and pipe tobacco!"

[user104658]

Aging yuppies... aw, you have to feel sorry for them, give them a brick phone, a pinstripe suit (with braces) and a filofax and they'll be in Thatchers heaven.

A brick... a brick what is that you say? "Telly-phone"? Is that like a telegram?

[Jack_]

Is this not just UKIP in a nutshell? :joker:. Fish and chips, a pint of warm beer and a ****ing flat-cap. Basically a bunch of sad, bitter old lads reminiscing about "the good old days" and trying to preserve the most banal, outdated aspects of British life. Yawn. "I have a vision for the future! And it is 1962."

-OcQHeypIMg

[user104658]

-OcQHeypIMg

:joker: I love Frankie's most recent stand-ups. He gets so angry, awesomely uncomfortable viewing.

[Alf]

Is this not just UKIP in a nutshell? :joker:. Fish and chips, a pint of warm beer and a ****ing flat-cap. Basically a bunch of sad, bitter old lads reminiscing about "the good old days" and trying to preserve the most banal, outdated aspects of British life. Yawn. "I have a vision for the future! And it is 1962."I'll have a bit of that. A fantastic period in music just about to happen, Alf Garnett will shortly be in our lives and England will win the World cup in four year's time.

Rather that, then this year 1984 we're currently living in.

[user104658]

I'll have a bit of that. A fantastic period in music just about to happen, Alf Garnett will shortly be in our lives and England will win the World cup in four year's time.

Rather that, then this year 1984 we're currently living in.
I'll give you the music part.

But the general sentiment... That's the inherent flaw in wanting to wind the clock back. "Now is bad, let's go back to before it was bad". If you go back to before it was bad, bad is still coming.

The ONLY hope is always forward. Never look back. Hope that what comes next is better.

[arista]

"Hope that what comes next is better. "

Thats the Spirit
TS.

[Brillopad]

I'll give you the music part.

But the general sentiment... That's the inherent flaw in wanting to wind the clock back. "Now is bad, let's go back to before it was bad". If you go back to before it was bad, bad is still coming.

The ONLY hope is always forward. Never look back. Hope that what comes next is better.

The grass is always greener kind of thinking. It rarely is. Seems much more likely there is a lot of bad to look forward to. You think the world will become a better place - I would say the opposite. Progressive, forward-thinking - they are just words, pretty empty words really. Forward to what exactly?

[Withano]

Forward to what exactly?

In general :suspect: as opposed to backward?..

[Withano]

I hope they get zero seats instead of the 1 in the next election so they can fade back into irrelevance.

[user104658]

The grass is always greener kind of thinking. It rarely is. Seems much more likely there is a lot of bad to look forward to. You think the world will become a better place - I would say the opposite. Progressive, forward-thinking - they are just words, pretty empty words really. Forward to what exactly?
"The grass is always greener" perfectly describes the idea that things "used to be so much better so we should go back to that". In fact it's the very origin of the phrase :shrug:

[Brillopad]

In general :suspect: as opposed to backward?..

That comes down to opinion, not fact. We can learn a lot from the past. Advanced technology for example does not mean a better world. It can have the opposite effect. Where we gain in some areas we lose in others.

Young people don't understand that and never will coz you can't put an old head on young shoulders ! People have to learn that for themselves, often to their cost.

[Withano]

That comes down to opinion, not fact. We can learn a lot from the past. Advanced technology for example does not mean a better world. It can have the opposite effect. Where we gain in some areas we lose in others.

Young people don't understand that and never will coz you can't put an old head on young shoulders ! People have to learn that for themselves, often to their cost.

Are you saying you would like to go backwards? Is that why you support UKIP? (Thats how your post came across, correct me if I'm wrong).

[Alf]

I once read that there was a time during the Roman empire, that people only used to go to work for two days a year. Can we go back to those times please?

[user104658]

That comes down to opinion, not fact. We can learn a lot from the past. Advanced technology for example does not mean a better world. It can have the opposite effect. Where we gain in some areas we lose in others.

Young people don't understand that and never will coz you can't put an old head on young shoulders ! People have to learn that for themselves, often to their cost.
I'm not saying you have to look forward and move forward because things always improve, I'm saying you can't keep trying to move backwards because you literally CAN'T, cannot, whether it was better or not.

[Robertocarlo]

http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2016/11/28/the-extreme-right-wing-views-of-new-ukip-leader-paul-nuttall

Yes, he seems like the perfect leader for such a loathsome party x

Seems like a vile man to me and there do now seem to be some 'honesty issues' following recent revelations concerning Hillborough and his association with a charity?! Loath UKIP and all they stand for. The BNP in posh suits that's all.

[arista]

I once read that there was a time during the Roman empire, that people only used to go to work for two days a year. Can we go back to those times please?


No as that system Failed
Alf

We can not Nail a MP to a Cross
like they did.

[arista]

Aging yuppies... aw, you have to feel sorry for them, give them a brick phone, a pinstripe suit (with braces) and a filofax and they'll be in Thatchers heaven.


Its OK Kizzy
they are going on the Front Line
with the Young Tibbers and Young Public
in WW3

[MTVN]

Will you be on the front line arista?

[Kizzy]

No he'll be sat in a bunker like the tory/new labour warmongers, they just send everyone else out to die.