New Garden City to be built in Kent :Locals marched against it

[arista]

Was just on ITV1 South East News
The old folks said in Folkstone


Otterpool Park Gov. has been given £750,000
to get it stated
A old fella said "the people moving in
would not be from around here!"



Get It Built
Whats the problem.

[Kizzy]

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/alex-bowell/britains-island-mentality_b_1080008.html

This is an excellent article, it sums up perfectly how insular we as a nation are, why are we so hateful?...

[arista]

Its not hate
the 300 locals claim their Countryside
is so important to them.

I say Build it Now
Fence it off Get the Diggers in

More homes are needed.........

[Kizzy]

Its not hate
the 300 locals claim their Countryside
is so important to them.

I say Build it Now
Fence it off Get the Diggers in

More homes are needed.........

That's not what was stated in the OP is it?
"the people moving in
would not be from around here!"

[MTVN]

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/alex-bowell/britains-island-mentality_b_1080008.html

This is an excellent article, it sums up perfectly how insular we as a nation are, why are we so hateful?...

One of the most horrendously smug and condescending articles I've ever read based on nothing but the writers own prejudices. Holds all his neighbours in contempt because he has spent a couple of weeks in other countries and thinks that has given him a complete grasp of their more enlightened culture

Bloody idiot

[Kizzy]

One of the most horrendously smug and condescending articles I've ever read based on nothing but the writers own prejudices. Holds all his neighbours in contempt because he has spent a couple of weeks in other countries and thinks that has given him a complete grasp of their more enlightened culture

Bloody idiot

He's not the first to explore island mentality as a theory is he?
If you look at it objectively and apply it to the current climate here, you can't deny he has a point.

[Cherie]

On countless occasions in Berlin I saw people of all ages protesting together for a common cause. This was not like back home, where far too often protesting is a thing young people do, but the expectation is that one day they will ‘get it out of their systems’.


:joker: Who made Brexit happen. :umm2: it was the young let us down :idc:

[Cherie]

One of the most horrendously smug and condescending articles I've ever read based on nothing but the writers own prejudices. Holds all his neighbours in contempt because he has spent a couple of weeks in other countries and thinks that has given him a complete grasp of their more enlightened culture

Bloody idiot

:clap1:

[Kizzy]

On countless occasions in Berlin I saw people of all ages protesting together for a common cause. This was not like back home, where far too often protesting is a thing young people do, but the expectation is that one day they will ‘get it out of their systems’.


:joker: Who made Brexit happen. :umm2: it was the young let us down :idc:

The young let us down..... Where did you hear this?

[Brillopad]

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/alex-bowell/britains-island-mentality_b_1080008.html

This is an excellent article, it sums up perfectly how insular we as a nation are, why are we so hateful?...

Excellent to you as it fits with your way of thinking. As for referring to us all as hateful - speak for yourself.

It might be worth remembering that Most of the 'hate' dominating the news for some time now is not coming from us.

[Brillopad]

He's not the first to explore island mentality as a theory is he?
If you look at it objectively and apply it to the current climate here, you can't deny he has a point.

I would hardly say you are looking at it objectively. :joker:

[Cherie]

The young let us down..... Where did you hear this?

I thought it was common knowledge a lot of young people didn't vote in the ref??

[Crimson Dynamo]

18-24 shocking turnout

[Kizzy]

I thought it was common knowledge a lot of young people didn't vote in the ref??


The turnout among young people aged 18 to 24 in the EU referendum was almost double the level that has been widely reported since polling day, according to evidence compiled at the London School of Economics.

The new findings – based on detailed polling conducted since the referendum by Opinium, and analysed by Michael Bruter, professor of political science and European politics at the LSE, and his colleague, Dr Sarah Harrison – suggests the turnout was 64% among this age group.

It has been widely assumed since the referendum that the turnout among young people was around 36% – a figure that has allowed Brexit campaigners to say young people cannot claim that they were betrayed by older pro-Brexit voters, as almost two-thirds did not bother to vote.


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/09/young-people-referendum-turnout-brexit-twice-as-high

[Cherie]

The turnout among young people aged 18 to 24 in the EU referendum was almost double the level that has been widely reported since polling day, according to evidence compiled at the London School of Economics.

The new findings – based on detailed polling conducted since the referendum by Opinium, and analysed by Michael Bruter, professor of political science and European politics at the LSE, and his colleague, Dr Sarah Harrison – suggests the turnout was 64% among this age group.

It has been widely assumed since the referendum that the turnout among young people was around 36% – a figure that has allowed Brexit campaigners to say young people cannot claim that they were betrayed by older pro-Brexit voters, as almost two-thirds did not bother to vote.


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/09/young-people-referendum-turnout-brexit-twice-as-high

Either way the claim by your first article that only young people protest is null and void and 64 per cent is still pretty low since it will affect the younger generation in the main

[Kizzy]

Either way the claim by your first article that only young people protest is null and void and 64 per cent is still pretty low since it will affect the younger generation in the main

'This was not like back home, where far too often protesting is a thing young people do,'

Didn't exactly say that....

'The results found that 64% of those young people who were registered did vote, rising to 65% among 25-to-39-year-olds and 66% among those aged between 40 and 54'

The difference is 1% or 2% between 3 age ranges.

[Cherie]

'This was not like back home, where far too often protesting is a thing young people do,'

Didn't exactly say that....

'The results found that 64% of those young people who were registered did vote, rising to 65% among 25-to-39-year-olds and 66% among those aged between 40 and 54'

The difference is 1% or 2% between 3 age ranges.

It is saying that..look at most protests there is usually a wide age range unless it is a student protest l...it's not just the young as this eejit is suggesting...biased much

[DemolitionRed]

We have to remind ourselves that its only a small percentage of people opposed (those who will be directly affected to this new city)… and an equally small percentage in favor. (people who are likely to gain). Everyone else will either show no interest or weigh things up on their own merit.

Whilst I can and do feel sorry for the well reasoned opposes, I, from a distance, see this new city as a sustainable solution and major economic opportunity. Then again, perhaps I don’t mind change so long as its not in my backyard… I’m sure I’d be well pissed off if the country lane to the front of my property was going to become the gateway road to this new city.

I liked that blog Kizzy and although he made some good points, I disagree with him about only Brits having this ‘small island mentality’. The French who have much more space than we do, are well known for having NIMBY syndrome. My aunty was refused a small and fitting extension to her house because her house was close to the village church and its entire congregation protested that this isn’t something they wanted to pass on their route to and from church. Populations the world over don’t like change

[arista]

Yes DR
a few hundred angry old folks

[Kizzy]

It is saying that..look at most protests there is usually a wide age range unless it is a student protest l...it's not just the young as this eejit is suggesting...biased much

It does not say that and I'd say he was more astute than idiotic.

[Kizzy]

We have to remind ourselves that its only a small percentage of people opposed (those who will be directly affected to this new city)… and an equally small percentage in favor. (people who are likely to gain). Everyone else will either show no interest or weigh things up on their own merit.

Whilst I can and do feel sorry for the well reasoned opposes, I, from a distance, see this new city as a sustainable solution and major economic opportunity. Then again, perhaps I don’t mind change so long as its not in my backyard… I’m sure I’d be well pissed off if the country lane to the front of my property was going to become the gateway road to this new city.

I liked that blog Kizzy and although he made some good points, I disagree with him about only Brits having this ‘small island mentality’. The French who have much more space than we do, are well known for having NIMBY syndrome. My aunty was refused a small and fitting extension to her house because her house was close to the village church and its entire congregation protested that this isn’t something they wanted to pass on their route to and from church. Populations the world over don’t like change

Although other areas my display the same affectation, for me it doesn't therefore mean we don't.