"Really British" shop London under attack from local LEFT WINGERS

[arista]

Feck Sake

was just on the first 30mins LBC Radio
Ian Dale

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/muswell-hill-novelty-gift-shop-owner-accused-of-racism-for-selling-britishthemed-wares-a3415201.html


Hog - This Shop is selling gear made in the UK
its not a Political Shop,
tell your silly mates....

[arista]

https://static.standard.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/story_medium/public/thumbnails/image/2016/12/08/10/reallybritish3.jpg

Cheers mate - I will Buy 2

[Shaun]

"under attack" = "someone asked a question on Facebook", apparently

[Firewire]

"under attack" = "someone asked a question on Facebook", apparently

me when I get backlash on twitter

[arista]

"under attack" = "someone asked a question on Facebook", apparently


NO
#
Locals (Left Wingers)went in and had a go at HIM

FACT


just Live on the radio


Bollocks to Facebook

[Shaun]

and now he's got more publicity for his tacky nonsense for free

well done him

[arista]

me when I get backlash on twitter


Online Does Not matter

This is a Real Shop you walk in and Buy
British Products
Unless you are DUMB Left Wing

[arista]

and now he's got more publicity for his tacky nonsense for free

well done him

He may even have Beatles stock in there?

And he should get Publicity
as local Left Wingers will not buy from him.
They Demand he removes the Word "British"

Now Shaun
who's side are you on?

[Cherie]

He may even have Beatles stock in there?

And he should get Publicity
as local Left Wingers will not buy from him.
They Demand he removes the Word "British"

Now Shaunb
who's side are you on?



:facepalm:

[arista]

Madame his name is Shaun
Not Shaunb?

[user104658]

Madame his name is Shaun
Not Shaunb?
:joker: post of the day tbh

[Jake.]

This is Mail Online fodder

Faux-outrage made in the hope people target others of a different skin colour

[Jake.]

This has literally got nothing to do with being "left wing" either btw

[arista]

This has literally got nothing to do with being "left wing" either btw


fecking Is
it was on LBC RADIO LIVE

[arista]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/nintchdbpict000287562421.jpg?w=791&strip=all
Shaun Hang your head down


He Sells Beatles Mugs

[arista]

This is Mail Online fodder

Faux-outrage made in the hope people target others of a different skin colour


RUBBISH.

Info came from LBC RADIO LIVE


Owner talking live to Ian dale

FACT

[Jake.]

fecking Is
it was on LBC RADIO LIVE

I couldn't give a **** :umm2:

It's another article made to spread faux outrage & hate and get people moaning about immigrants

[arista]

:joker: post of the day tbh


Yes TS some of these Women!

[Jake.]

RUBBISH.

Info came from LBC RADIO LIVE


Owner talking live to Ian dale

FACT

It was also a Mail Online article

FACT

[Withano]

Its a stupid racist ukip brexit shop anyway so doesnt matter

[Cherie]

:joker: post of the day tbh

When did you get to be so easily amused, I will typo more often and improve your quality of life

[Shaun]

https://static.standard.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/story_medium/public/thumbnails/image/2016/12/08/10/reallybritish2.jpg

i mean really

[Cherie]

Yes TS some of these Women!

There is only one of me :hee:

[arista]

I couldn't give a **** :umm2:

It's another article made to spread faux outrage & hate and get people moaning about immigrants


So What
Feck all to do with Live Radio


Its Not a Political shop - You do know that

[Jake.]

So What
Feck all to do with Live Radio


Its Not a Political shop - You do know that


You literally make no sense

[arista]

There is only one of me :hee:


Have You Edited Your Error
Madame.

[Cherie]

Next time I go to Spain I will insist they remove Spanish from all their home made brands, bet that goes down well with the locals..only in Britain :joker:

[arista]

It was also a Mail Online article

FACT


Yes which I never USED


FACT

[Cherie]

Have You Edited Your Error
Madame.

No, it was my iPads mistake not mine Sir

[Jake.]

Yes which I never USED


FACT

Right, that doesn't not-make it a Mail article

[arista]

Next time I go to Spain I will insist they remove Spanish from all their home made brands, bet that goes down well with the locals..only in Britain :joker:


Madame
Gibraltar is better
its owned by us, no less

great monkeys live there.

[arista]

No, it was my iPads mistake not mine Sir


No its you doing the "bold"
error

Madame.

[armand.kay]

Not understanding what are people actually offended about?

[arista]

Its a stupid racist ukip brexit shop anyway so doesnt matter


Wrong
its a Non political Shop
named "Really British"

[arista]

Not understanding what are people actually offended about?


In that ZONE
its Full of dumb Left Wingers
who walk in and give the owner Abuse
and told him to Remove the word "British"


Ref: LBC Radio 5PM today Ian Dale Show

[arista]

https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/ad_228510084.jpg?w=620&h=412&crop=1

[Cherie]

Its a stupid racist ukip brexit shop anyway so doesnt matter

So you can have an Irish shop in England or a Polski but not a British :laugh: this country is just awful now, it never used to be like this, people had common sense

[arista]

Was Just on ITV1 London News.

2 of his Staff had to leave

Poxy Local Left Wingers

[arista]

Bloody Hell
a Lady went into his store Chucking Products around.

Its a Non Political Shop

[arista]

M&S Food Hall Over the Road
I must pop up there


Hog - Do you have a View???????

[arista]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/nintchdbpict000287562749.jpg?w=638&strip=all
2 of those please

I will put them in the Womens Bog


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/really-british-shop-owner-racism-accusations-london-muswell-hill-a7463756.html

[Shaun]

do you own a stake in this shop or something arista

idg the big deal. there's dozens of these types of store up and down the country selling anything with a Union Jack on it.

[Marsh.]

me when I get backlash on twitter

:joker:

[arista]

do you own a stake in this shop or something arista

idg the big deal. there's dozens of these types of store up and down the country selling anything with a Union Jack on it.


No I Do Not


He sells "Beatles " gear Shaun

[jaxie]

Its a stupid racist ukip brexit shop anyway so doesnt matter

And this is the problem. :fist:

I'm starting to think this attitude comes from people with not enough to do with their time.

[Brillopad]

This is Mail Online fodder

Faux-outrage made in the hope people target others of a different skin colour

And your evidence for such an inflammatory statement is....

[the truth]

loony left hate their own country, bunch of violent sanctimonious dishonest idiotic intolerant hypocrites

[Brillopad]

Not understanding what are people actually offended about?

I don't think they even know themselves, just an excuse to attack 'anyone who doesn't support their left-wing ideals'.

[jaxie]

This is Mail Online fodder

Faux-outrage made in the hope people target others of a different skin colour

:shrug: wtf.

This has to be the most bizarre out there post of the thread. How on earth do you make that connection with a shop selling British branded goods to targeting people with a different skin colour?

[Northern Monkey]

WTF?:joker:
How can anyone object to a British souvenir shop in the capital city of Britain?Lol.
Foreigners love stuff like that.
Just some PC liberal leftists with nowt better to pass their time.

[Northern Monkey]

Alot of the Corbynite communists hate their own country and the west in general.They hold the Union Jack in as much contempt as the Swastika.Corbyns fav club the 'Stop the war coalition' has been run by various ant western communists who support regimes such as North Korea and love the idea of the USSR and blame us after terrorist attacks happen.This is all part of this backward self hating thinking.Imo.

[Withano]

Wrong
its a Non political Shop
named "Really British"

Really British.. Hm.. Sounds really political.. And racist. And ukippy

[Withano]

So you can have an Irish shop in England or a Polski but not a British :laugh: this country is just awful now, it never used to be like this, people had common sense

I was mocking the article haha..

[Brillopad]

Really British.. Hm.. Sounds really political.. And racist. And ukippy

What's wrong with being proud of being British? British is not a 'dirty' word however hard some try to convince people otherwise. Some people see 'racism' at every turn. Their problem!!!

[Niamh.]

There's already millions of those British touristy shops in London and I've never heard anyone complain about them before, is there more to this story?

[Jordan.]

My heart bleeds for the sensitive souls offended by this </3

[Tom4784]

There's already millions of those British touristy shops in London and I've never heard anyone complain about them before, is there more to this story?

There's either more to this story or the owner is overly sensitive or both.

[DemolitionRed]

In that ZONE
its Full of dumb Left Wingers
who walk in and give the owner Abuse
and told him to Remove the word "British"


Ref: LBC Radio 5PM today Ian Dale Show

You clearly don't know this leafy conservative zone :smug:

[Cherie]

This is the GC's area he is probably in there throwing tins of English corned beef around

[Cherie]

We’ve had Greek shoppers and Pakistanis in and they love it. They seem to be more proud of Britain than we are.

Sums it up really

[empire]

these middle and upper class lefties, need to stop dictating there liberal bigotry to others who just want to have a business for a living, I am sick and tried of these gold spoon children who try and dismantle britain's culture and way of life, and they should stop acting like spoilt brats, they should find a job and earn there way of life without bashing hard working people.

[Withano]

This is literally an article about a guy who asked whether the shop is brexit related. Why are people taking it seriously.

[arista]

There's already millions of those British touristy shops in London and I've never heard anyone complain about them before, is there more to this story?


Yes 2 staff members left
as the Left Wing Locals
kept having a go at them.

They demand his "British" is removed
from his Sign.

Ref: ITV1 London Local News

[Kizzy]

Hey! We have little industry as it is, now don't take away our shops of British tat! ( most of which is made in China) :/

[DemolitionRed]

Yes 2 staff members left
as the Left Wing Locals
kept having a go at them.

They demand his "British" is removed
from his Sign.

Ref: ITV1 London Local News

What part of this article mentions 'left wing'? There are profound differences between left wing and liberal. Try looking it up.

...sighs...How can this forum group even start to have a realistic intelligent conversation when all we want to do is express distain towards certain members based on their political affiliation. How can we even begin to put things in perspective if we dislike and disregard anything another forum member has to say?

Once we stop trying to politicize and polarize every discussion into left or right wing banter, we might actually open the door for some real discourse.

[Niamh.]

This is the GC's area he is probably in there throwing tins of English corned beef around

:laugh:

[Niamh.]

What part of this article mentions 'left wing'? There are profound differences between left wing and liberal. Try looking it up.

...sighs...How can this forum group even start to have a realistic intelligent conversation when all we want to do is express distain towards certain members based on their political affiliation. How can we even begin to put things in perspective if we dislike and disregard anything another forum member has to say?

Once we stop trying to politicize and polarize every discussion into left or right wing banter, we might actually open the door for some real discourse.

:clap2: Seems like some sort of a competition

[Northern Monkey]

This poor fella was on Daily Politics.He's not been affiliated with any political parties or groups apart from being asked to be a Lib Dem councillor once and he's had people in his shop getting irate and throwing stuff about.Wtf is wrong with these people from this part of London?They seem very anti British.

[Withano]

he's had people in his shop getting irate and throwing stuff about.

Source?

[Northern Monkey]

Source?

Daily Politics around 43 - 44 minutes in.

[Tom4784]

Daily Politics around 43 - 44 minutes in.

I watched the clip in question and I'm fairly certain he's lying.

If someone did trash his shop, as he said, then why did he not call the police? That alone would have been enough to validate his story but he didn't and he lost the composure he had previously when the host asked him about it which is often a liar's tell. The fact that he was swift to get back on message is telling itself.

He's a chancer that's targetting the gullible demographic who are likely to see this story and believe it without a second thought because it suits their agenda.

Nothing else to be said on the topic really.

[Kizzy]

:clap2: Seems like some sort of a competition

Baiting :hee:

[Kizzy]

I watched the clip in question and I'm fairly certain he's lying.

If someone did trash his shop, as he said, then why did he not call the police? That alone would have been enough to validate his story but he didn't and he lost the composure he had previously when the host asked him about it which is often a liar's tell. The fact that he was swift to get back on message is telling itself.

He's a chancer that's targetting the gullible demographic who are likely to see this story and believe it without a second thought because it suits their agenda.

Nothing else to be said on the topic really.

Agreed, it is a story to galvanise those who are positively rabid in their quest to find anything that suggests an affront to 'British' culture or values.
These media outlets are playing a very dangerous game ramping up the pressure as when it explodes it will not be pretty, but these instigators will throw their hands up and claim they predicted any clashes.

[Jamie89]

What part of this article mentions 'left wing'? There are profound differences between left wing and liberal. Try looking it up.

...sighs...How can this forum group even start to have a realistic intelligent conversation when all we want to do is express distain towards certain members based on their political affiliation. How can we even begin to put things in perspective if we dislike and disregard anything another forum member has to say?

Once we stop trying to politicize and polarize every discussion into left or right wing banter, we might actually open the door for some real discourse.

:worship:

[Niamh.]

Baiting :hee:

How so?

[Withano]

He's a chancer that's targetting the gullible demographic who are likely to see this story and believe it without a second thought because it suits their agenda.

Nothing else to be said on the topic really.

Agreed. Clever guy. Lots of shops gets lots of criticism, hes just using it to his advantage.

[user104658]

What part of this article mentions 'left wing'? There are profound differences between left wing and liberal. Try looking it up.

...sighs...How can this forum group even start to have a realistic intelligent conversation when all we want to do is express distain towards certain members based on their political affiliation. How can we even begin to put things in perspective if we dislike and disregard anything another forum member has to say?

Once we stop trying to politicize and polarize every discussion into left or right wing banter, we might actually open the door for some real discourse.
Sounds like more looney left hoozawotsitt gobbledygibber to me :suspect:

[Northern Monkey]

Yep everyone just excuse the bigots and thugs and call the hard working shop owner a liar.Seems about right.

[Withano]

Yep everyone just excuse the bigots and thugs and call the hard working shop owner a liar.Seems about right.

Its just a nothing story. Its a story about people disliking a shop and and the owner getting a little upset. Maybe when theres something to react to.. CCTV (which presumably exists and hasnt been released.. Suspicious to most?) a police report, a witness to any of this.. Maybe then there would be more outrage, at the moment its just a story with so little substance that I'm shocked anybody cares.

[arista]

Its just a nothing story. Its a story about people disliking a shop and and the owner getting a little upset. Maybe when theres something to react to.. CCTV (which presumably exists and hasnt been released.. Suspicious to most?) a police report, a witness to any of this.. Maybe then there would be more outrage, at the moment its just a story with so little substance that I'm shocked anybody cares.


You Do not know WHAT
you are talking about.


FACT
2 workers left
A lady messed up his shop
Locals demand he remove the word "British"
from his Sign on the Shop.



feck sake its in todays FREE METRO

[arista]

What part of this article mentions 'left wing'? There are profound differences between left wing and liberal. Try looking it up.

...sighs...How can this forum group even start to have a realistic intelligent conversation when all we want to do is express distain towards certain members based on their political affiliation. How can we even begin to put things in perspective if we dislike and disregard anything another forum member has to say?

Once we stop trying to politicize and polarize every discussion into left or right wing banter, we might actually open the door for some real discourse.


DR "Left Wing" came from LBC Live radio
and ITV1 London Local News

Whats wrong with stating left wingers?
They are the FECKING trouble makers
to his store
FACT

[Alf]

I would remove the word British and re-name the shop Rule Britannia.

[arista]

I note Hog has avoided this thread???????

[arista]

I would remove the word British and re-name the shop Rule Britannia.


No then the Left Wing Nutters
would Smash his windows
ALF

[Shaun]

I would remove the word British and re-name the shop Rule Britannia.

Would be a better name tbh.

"Really British" sounds like a TV channel owned by UK Gold

[arista]

Would be a better name tbh.

"Really British" sounds like a TV channel owned by UK Gold


Shaun
he has sold out of Beatles Mugs
thats your fault

[Withano]

You Do not know WHAT
you are talking about.


FACT
2 workers left
A lady messed up his shop
Locals demand he remove the word "British"
from his Sign on the Shop.



feck sake its in todays FREE METRO

Find me any proof other than words falling out of his mouth, otherwise I have just as much proof that I saw a pig flying today.

He must have CCTV in his shop, there must have been some witnesses, why are we relying so heavily on his words? Reasonable explanation is that they are fabricated fibs, or all out lies and hes just smart enough to promote himself in this way.

You can choose to believe everythig this stranger with a new business has to say about his business, and carry on acting as if national promotion is harmful or something.. I'll wait for actual evidence which should be easy for him to provide

[Shaun]

Shaun
he has sold out of Beatles Mugs
thats your fault

I don't have ANY Beatles mugs arista :nono: just the one Bowie one

[_Tom_]

Totally unsurprising that it's only been British people complaining and getting offended on behalf of other nationalities (who aren't even offended) :facepalm:

[DemolitionRed]

[B]
feck sake its in todays FREE METRO

Just looked and its nowhere to be found http://metro.co.uk/

[arista]

Just looked and its nowhere to be found http://metro.co.uk/


Page 5 of todays free Metro

[Crimson Dynamo]

I watched the clip in question and I'm fairly certain he's lying.

If someone did trash his shop, as he said, then why did he not call the police? That alone would have been enough to validate his story but he didn't and he lost the composure he had previously when the host asked him about it which is often a liar's tell. The fact that he was swift to get back on message is telling itself.

He's a chancer that's targetting the gullible demographic who are likely to see this story and believe it without a second thought because it suits their agenda.

Nothing else to be said on the topic really.

:laugh:

Unbelievable

Tibb never ceases to amaze me

[Withano]

:laugh:

Unbelievable

Tibb never ceases to amaze me

One mans words is enough evidence for it all, but any doubts about the words from the business man with a ****ty business being anything but entirely truthful are unbelievable and amazing? Ok.

[Crimson Dynamo]

One mans words is enough evidence for it all, but any doubts about the words from the business man with a ****ty business being anything but entirely truthful are unbelievable and amazing? Ok.

Yeah he is going on live TV to lie to get sales of tat. Brilliant

You

Could

Not

Make

It

Up

:laugh2:

[Withano]

Yeah he is going on live TV to lie to get sales of tat. Brilliant

You

Could

Not

Make

It

Up

:laugh2:

Why the **** would he not? Nearly everything in everyones house is there because they were promoted in some way.. I bet his sales have gone through the roof!
If the story was real, evidence would be incredibly easy to provide. But there is genuinely zero evidence and youre not even a tiny bit suspicious. Just trusting of the guy with the anti-left story
- That - is the real funny part of it all. Think you missed it though.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'd give up, seriously. :)

[Withano]

I'd give up, seriously. :)

Alright, you carry on believing everything that anyone has ever said on TV, and I'll carry on waiting until they provide an ounce of evidence. Sorry that my way is shocking for you..

[Tom4784]

:laugh:

Unbelievable

Tibb never ceases to amaze me

If this was a story aimed at demonising the Right Wing you would be screeching for proof.

The man has provided no proof despite the fact that he'd easily have plenty of it if what he said was true. He's just trying to make a quick bit of cash from a very gullible demographic.

[Cherie]

If this was a story aimed at demonising the Right Wing you would be screeching for proof.

The man has provided no proof despite the fact that he'd easily have plenty of it if what he said was true. He's just trying to make a quick bit of cash from a very gullible demographic.


British people ?

[Kizzy]

Alot of the Corbynite communists hate their own country and the west in general.They hold the Union Jack in as much contempt as the Swastika.Corbyns fav club the 'Stop the war coalition' has been run by various ant western communists who support regimes such as North Korea and love the idea of the USSR and blame us after terrorist attacks happen.This is all part of this backward self hating thinking.Imo.

Was wondering when he'd get a mention, really offensive to Corbyn supporters but used to being lumped in with any old thing these days :/

[Brillopad]

Was wondering when he'd get a mention, really offensive to Corbyn supporters but used to being lumped in with any old thing these days :/

What like anyone who defends being British gets lumped in with the far right - really offensive to people who value the British way of life.

[Livia]

What's the problem with a shop selling British products.... IN BRITAIN?

I have a brilliant Polish shop in my nearest town, lots of the indigenous locals use it, they have the finest collection of vodkas I've ever seen. I've never heard anyone make a negative comment about it. If you've got a problem with a shop selling British stuff, you have to have a problem with a Polish shop selling Polish stuff. You racist...

[Crimson Dynamo]

I hope the guy gets lots of business for his excellent shop on the back of this.

[James]

I've deleted some posts. :hee:

Personally, I can't see someone like that going on The Daily Politics and lying about something like that, but maybe that's just me.

[Withano]

If you've got a problem with a shop selling British stuff, you have to have a problem with a Polish shop selling Polish stuff. You racist...

So far the thread has compiled a grand total of zero evidence of any one person having a problem with the Really British shop.

[Brillopad]

If this was a story aimed at demonising the Right Wing you would be screeching for proof.

The man has provided no proof despite the fact that he'd easily have plenty of it if what he said was true. He's just trying to make a quick bit of cash from a very gullible demographic.

This is Mail Online fodder

Faux-outrage made in the hope people target others of a different skin colour

What has skin colour got to do with it? It is about people valuing the British way of life, you read into it what you will.

[DemolitionRed]

What has skin colour got to do with it? It is about people valuing the British way of life, you read into it what you will.

And what would that be? I mean the British way of life.

Apart from never leaving your house without an umbrella, I’m genuinely interested in hearing what the ‘British way of life” is

[arista]

I hope the guy gets lots of business for his excellent shop on the back of this.


Yes I was going to pop up
but the Beatles mugs have sold out
lots of China Tourists

[Withano]

And what would that be? I mean the British way of life.

Apart from never leaving your house without an umbrella, I’m genuinely interested in hearing what the ‘British way of life” is

You have to pretend to not live in a multi-cultural society and protest mosques whilst not going to church. And then call yourself patriotic and all others traitors. Then down a stella and read through the Daily Mail titles.

[Brillopad]

And what would that be? I mean the British way of life.

Apart from never leaving your house without an umbrella, I’m genuinely interested in hearing what the ‘British way of life” is

Being cynical and proud if it works both ways. Pretty sick of the predictable questioning of whether the Brits have as much right to value their way of life as anyone else quite frankly.

Being British mean many things from the big to the small. I repeat what does skin colour have to do being proud of British. A question should be answered before another is asked.

[Livia]

This has turned out to be such a ridiculous thread. Being British means never leaving your house without an umbrella? WTF...?

Being British means taking pride in what this country has given to the world... art, literature, government, technology. It means being proud of being inclusive and multicultural (although it's okay to speak about immigration and Britishness without being a racist... some people on this thread are missing that), having taken in refugees for years... My own family for instance, was accepted here after the war and given a home. We've given more to aid Syrian refugees in Jordan than any other country in the world. Our troops were the first in to Africa to help with the ebola crisis and Brits are always first into areas after natural disasters.

There's nothing wrong with being proud of Britain, and if you hate it so much, if you disagree with the majority that you can being a proud Brit without being a racist... you can always try to find your Utopia somewhere else.

[Northern Monkey]

Was wondering when he'd get a mention, really offensive to Corbyn supporters but used to being lumped in with any old thing these days :/

Noticed you didn't embolden the first three words of my post that you quoted to try and imply that i was stating 'All Corbyn supporters'

Very clever :clap1:

[Withano]

This has turned out to be such a ridiculous thread. Being British means never leaving your house without an umbrella? WTF...?

Being British means taking pride in what this country has given to the world... art, literature, government, technology. It means being proud of being inclusive and multicultural (although it's okay to speak about immigration and Britishness without being a racist... some people on this thread are missing that), having taken in refugees for years... My own family for instance, was accepted here after the war and given a home. We've given more to aid Syrian refugees in Jordan than any other country in the world. Our troops were the first in to Africa to help with the ebola crisis and Brits are always first into areas after natural disasters.

There's nothing wrong with being proud of Britain, and if you hate it so much, if you disagree with the majority that you can being a proud Brit without being a racist... you can always try to find your Utopia somewhere else.

Yeh.. You see so many threads here (anywhere) from patriotic brits discussing literature and art haha. What world are you living in really? If thats what being British is, then I see next to no Brits on this forum. Have a look through the Britain First facebook page and have a look see what self-described "patriots" actually care about. You're in for a shock m8.

This post roughly equates to 'being British is pretending the bad stuff doesn't happen, and if you dislike the bad stuff then move country'

[Niamh.]

Deleted some posts in here can you all stop insulting eachother

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yeh.. You see so many threads here (anywhere) from patriotic brits discussing literature and art haha. What world are you living in really? If thats what being British is, then I see next to no Brits on this forum. Have a look through the Britain First facebook page and have a look see what self-described "patriots" actually care about. You're in for a shock m8.

This post roughly equates to 'being British is pretending the bad stuff doesn't happen, and if you dislike the bad stuff then move country'

what nationality are you?

[Kizzy]

So far the thread has compiled a grand total of zero evidence of any one person having a problem with the Really British shop.

There was a complaint made by a local resident who asked them to remove golliwogs from their window display, they refused.

[Tom4784]

Are you kidding, anyone who speaks in defence of the British way of life, who voted to leave the EU, who believes we need to control Britain's borders etc are constantly accused of being racist and compared to the far-right. Are you seriously denying ever having made any such insinuations?

Yet this thread has proved that anyone that doesn't share a right leaning opinion is branded part of the 'Loony Left'. Hypocritical.

[Brillopad]

Yet this thread has proved that anyone that doesn't share a right leaning opinion is branded part of the 'Loony Left'. Hypocritical.

Only in response. Those shouting racist and far-right to shut people down started it provoking an understandable response.

[Withano]

what nationality are you?

I don't see the relevance. Would my answer dictate how important my opinion is?

[DemolitionRed]

This has turned out to be such a ridiculous thread. Being British means never leaving your house without an umbrella? WTF...?

Being British means taking pride in what this country has given to the world... art, literature, government, technology. It means being proud of being inclusive and multicultural (although it's okay to speak about immigration and Britishness without being a racist... some people on this thread are missing that), having taken in refugees for years... My own family for instance, was accepted here after the war and given a home. We've given more to aid Syrian refugees in Jordan than any other country in the world. Our troops were the first in to Africa to help with the ebola crisis and Brits are always first into areas after natural disasters.

There's nothing wrong with being proud of Britain, and if you hate it so much, if you disagree with the majority that you can being a proud Brit without being a racist... you can always try to find your Utopia somewhere else.


Wow, you sound so cutting :hehe:

I’d agree with your sentiments if you were talking about the same Britain that I know and love but then I don’t hang out with neoliberals because their imaginary version of Britain is very different to mine.

I don’t want to live amongst the sort of Brits who want to lock down their drawbridges, privatize their medicine, their prisons and their schools and who’s government encourages its minions to be mean spirited and selfish towards their neighbours. I don’t want to live in a hostile Britain where philanthropy is a thing of the past.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Wow, you sound so cutting :hehe:

I’d agree with your sentiments if you were talking about the same Britain that I know and love but then I don’t hang out with neoliberals because their imaginary version of Britain is very different to mine.

I don’t want to live amongst the sort of Brits who want to lock down their drawbridges, privatize their medicine, their prisons and their schools and who’s government encourages its minions to be mean spirited and selfish towards their neighbours. I don’t want to live in a hostile Britain where philanthropy is a thing of the past.

then dont

[Brillopad]

I don't see the relevance. Would my answer dictate how important my opinion is?

I would imagine poster is trying to ascertain how much you are likely to value the British way of life. Therefore your nationality is relevant.

[Withano]

I would imagine poster is trying to ascertain how much you are likely to value the British way of life. Therefore your nationality is relevant.

Define the British way of life for me, I'll give that a direct answer instead.

[Crimson Dynamo]

hey withano have you condemned the idiots who have been attacking the owner yet?

[Withano]

hey withano have you condemned the idiots who have been attacking the owner yet?

Have you found any evidence that they exist yet? Genuinely asking, I havent kept up with the story or the thread really.

[Brillopad]

Define the British way of life for me, I'll give that a direct answer instead.

I shouldn't need to do so to anyone who values it. No direct answer required.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Have you found any evidence that they exist yet? Genuinely asking, I havent kept up with the story or the thread really.

:joker:

exactly

[Withano]

I shouldn't need to do so to anyone who values it. No direct answer required.

I value the life I lead in Britain, yes.. Was that the question?

[Withano]

:joker:

exactly

Well last I heard there was zero evidence that they existed so the story was porbably a lie and not worth my time. Have there been any further developments?

[Brillopad]

I value the life I lead in Britain, yes.. Was that the question?

You know it wasn't. Think I got the gist though.

[Withano]

You know it wasn't. Think I got the gist though.

Well how the **** am I supposed to know if I value the (your?) British way of life without a definition?

[Tom4784]

Only in response. Those shouting racist and far-right to shut people down started it provoking an understandable response.

In response to what? Look at the thread title, the majority of posts. This thread is basically an excuse to attack anyone who thinks differently and it's all based on the blatant lies of someone looking to promote their business.

IF the thing about the Golliwogs is true then people have a right to complain from both sides. It's a racist symbol and plus, do you really want the 'British way of life' that this shop supposedly represents to include Black Face?

[DemolitionRed]

then dont

I don't.

[DemolitionRed]

In response to what? Look at the thread title, the majority of posts. This thread is basically an excuse to attack anyone who thinks differently and it's all based on the blatant lies of someone looking to promote their business.

IF the thing about the Golliwogs is true then people have a right to complain from both sides. It's a racist symbol and plus, do you really want the 'British way of life' that this shop supposedly represents to include Black Face?

Absofekinglutely

Thanks for waking me up Dezzy. This is just another bait and switch thread. :facepalm:

[Brillopad]

In response to what? Look at the thread title, the majority of posts. This thread is basically an excuse to attack anyone who thinks differently and it's all based on the blatant lies of someone looking to promote their business.

IF the thing about the Golliwogs is true then people have a right to complain from both sides. It's a racist symbol and plus, do you really want the 'British way of life' that this shop supposedly represents to include Black Face?

I'm not talking about just this thread, as you well know, but the many others when you and other posters have thrown around the 'racist', 'bigot', etc allegations in an attempt to shut down opposing views, then have the nerve to complain about 'loony left' comments. If you dish it out, then suck it up. :nono:

[Brillopad]

In response to what? Look at the thread title, the majority of posts. This thread is basically an excuse to attack anyone who thinks differently and it's all based on the blatant lies of someone looking to promote their business.

IF the thing about the Golliwogs is true then people have a right to complain from both sides. It's a racist symbol and plus, do you really want the 'British way of life' that this shop supposedly represents to include Black Face?

Really, a golliwog doll, a child' toy, which has not been around for years, is more offensive than the female subjugation flag ncreasingly being waved around on our streets everyday. Only from a man!

[Brillopad]

In response to what? Look at the thread title, the majority of posts. This thread is basically an excuse to attack anyone who thinks differently and it's all based on the blatant lies of someone looking to promote their business.

IF the thing about the Golliwogs is true then people have a right to complain from both sides. It's a racist symbol and plus, do you really want the 'British way of life' that this shop supposedly represents to include Black Face?

What, in one breath you imply the guy is lying, but in the other are keen to find offence regarding a defunct doll, suggesting that bit could be true. Can't have it both ways. :shrug:

What I don't want is for The British way of life' representing increasing misogyny on our streets.

I think your priorities are scewered.

[Tom4784]

I'm not talking about just this thread, as you well know, but the many others when you and other posters have thrown around the 'racist', 'bigot', etc allegations in an attempt to shut down opposing views, then have the nerve to complain about 'loony left' comments. If you dish it out, then suck it up. :nono:

Go find me examples then, if you make claims you have to back them up. I'm waiting.

Really, a golliwog doll, a child' toy, which has not been around for years, is more offensive than the female subjugation flag ncreasingly being waved around on our streets everyday. Only from a man!

It's not a competition of what's more offensive. what relevance does this 'flag' have to a discussion about a shop that apparently 'celebrates the British way of life?' Very little, I'm guessing unlike the Golliwog.

What, in one breath you imply the guy is lying, but in the other are keen to find offence regarding a defunct doll, suggesting that bit could be true. Can't have it both ways. :shrug:

You should perhaps read posts more carefully, also try to read the original article so you understand the story better.

The only 'complaint' listed in the article is a very mild and reasonably presented point. Hardly the 'attacks' the shop owner is making them out to be.

I said that the bit about his shop being trashed was a blatant lie. The article offers proof of people 'complaining' (if you can call the example that). If the Golliwog thing is true then people would have reason to complain. I never doubted that he didn't have 'complaints,' It was the OTT comments he made about people trashing his shop and threatening to protest it that I didn't believe (unlike the example in the article, there's no proof whatsoever of his claims).

[Brillopad]

Go find me examples then, if you make claims you have to back them up. I'm waiting.



It's not a competition of what's more offensive. what relevance does this 'flag' have to a discussion about a shop that apparently 'celebrates the British way of life?' Very little, I'm guessing unlike the Golliwog.



You should perhaps read posts more carefully, also try to read the original article so you understand the story better.

The only 'complaint' listed in the article is a very mild and reasonably presented point. Hardly the 'attacks' the shop owner is making them out to be.

I said that the bit about his shop being trashed was a blatant lie. The article offers proof of people 'complaining' (if you can call the example that). If the Golliwog thing is true then people would have reason to complain. I never doubted that he didn't have 'complaints,' It was the OTT comments he made about people trashing his shop and threatening to protest it that I didn't believe (unlike the example in the article, there's no proof whatsoever of his claims).

I don't need to back up anything plenty of others have criticised you for this, again as you well know. Rather silly to try and deny it.

The doll is no longer made as was deemed racist. Misogyny, the subjugation of women and sexism is rife on our streets today with the increase in migration. But you get all worked up about a stupid defunct doll. It is simply deflecting attention away from the real problems in Britain today.

[Tom4784]

I don't need to back up anything plenty of others have criticised you for this, again as you well know. Rather silly to try and deny it.

The doll is no longer made as was deemed racist. Misogyny, the subjugation of women and sexism is rife on our streets today with the increase in migration. But you get all worked up about a stupid defunct doll. It is simply deflecting attention away from the real problems in Britain today.

So you can't back it up, it didn't happen then.

Again, This shop apparently selling Golliwogs has nothing to do with immigration so that's a void point unless you can link it to the discussion at hand.

[arista]

Yes there was another Shop trying to sell Golli.....
but after so many Death Threats - They removed them.

No more news on there shop
it was outside London........

[arista]

"Misogyny, the subjugation of women and sexism is rife on our streets today "

whats wrong that?
Brillo

[Jack_]

"Misogyny, the subjugation of women and sexism is rife on our streets today "

whats wrong that?
Brillo

:joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker::joker:

FFS

[Brillopad]

So you can't back it up, it didn't happen then.

Again, This shop apparently selling Golliwogs has nothing to do with immigration so that's a void point unless you can link it to the discussion at hand.

A discussion on any 'ism' can link together with another especially when one is defended and another is not. It is called hypocrisy.

[Brillopad]

"Misogyny, the subjugation of women and sexism is rife on our streets today "

whats wrong that?
Brillo

I hope you are joking, if not I don't know how you get away with it as sexism is every bit as bad as racism and shouldn't be tolerated anywhere.

[Brillopad]

Yes there was another Shop trying to sell Golli.....
but after so many Death Threats - They removed them.

No more news on there shop
it was outside London........

Death threats for selling gollies, makes them every bit as bad as the racists and some.

[arista]

Death threats for selling gollies, makes them every bit as bad as the racists and some.

You do not know
if the angry person
was attacked years ago?

Its just not worth the trouble

[Kizzy]

You do not know
if the angry person
was attacked years ago?

Its just not worth the trouble


Good point, the ignorant 'it's a doll' argument doesn't take into account what those dolls represent. It may be generations of subjugation or a childhood of cruel taunts.

They are in that respect as British as colonialism, and for me that is one aspect of being British I am NOT proud of.
For it to be inferred I should be is as insulting as it is repugnant.

[Brillopad]

Good point, the ignorant 'it's a doll' argument doesn't take into account what those dolls represent. It may be generations of subjugation or a childhood of cruel taunts.

They are in that respect as British as colonialism, and for me that is one aspect of being British I am NOT proud of.
For it to be inferred I should be is as insulting as it is repugnant.

You of course you miss the crucial bit - it is a defunct doll whose manufacture was stopped. The message was got and acted upon. Death threats are not justification for some small shop allegedly selling some. Death threats come from bullies and cowards any any justification for such behaviour makes for pretty uncomfortable reading.

As for subjugation - the subjugation of women is current and being dismissed by those who clearly set different values for racism and sexism. Both are illegal and both are wrong.

[Kizzy]

You of course you miss the crucial bit - it is a defunct doll whose manufacture was stopped. The message was got and acted upon. Death threats are not justification for some small shop allegedly selling some. Death threats come from bullies and cowards any any justification for such behaviour makes for pretty uncomfortable reading.

As for subjugation - the subjugation of women is current and being dismissed by those who clearly set different values for racism and sexism. Both are illegal and both are wrong.

They were outlawed yes, so why is it surprising there is a backlash to them being found back on sale? And to add insult to injury in a place that is supposed to be testament to all things British!
As a Brit I'm massively offended that the owner would dare suggest that is an item that defines my heritage.

Do not twist my words.... There was no justification of death threats, my view of what the item may represent could never in any rational scenario be mistaken for that.

Whatever you feel regarding other examples of subjugation they are for another thread.