View Full Version : Are you gay because you are different or different because you are gay?
UserSince2005
09-12-2016, 09:14 AM
So ive been wondering.
I remember thinking I was fundamentally different from my peers way before I ever thought I was gay.
I think a lot of gays felt this way from a young age.
Whether it be not liking football.
Not having the same voice.
Not being able to make friends.
Being fat.
Being socially Awkward.
....
So do you think not ever feeling like a normal child led you to feel homoeroctic thoughts, or do you were always different because you were always gay.
caprimint
09-12-2016, 09:26 AM
Cus this thread is gonna go down really well
UserSince2005
09-12-2016, 09:27 AM
Cus this thread is gonna go down really well
Why wouldnt it?
Northern Monkey
09-12-2016, 09:57 AM
I'm straight and need to mind my own business but the voice thing you bring up is quite interesting.I made a thread about that a while back on whether it is like a genetic characteristic of many gays or something that is adopted later on.
UserSince2005
09-12-2016, 09:59 AM
I'm straight and need to mind my own business but the voice thing you bring up is quite interesting.I made a thread about that a while back on whether it is like a genetic characteristic of many gays or something that is adopted later on.
I think if you have a feminine voice and get teased throughout your childhood about being gay. there only a certain amount of time you can hear it before you believe it. especially at such an impressionable age.
Northern Monkey
09-12-2016, 10:04 AM
I think if you have a feminine voice and get teased throughout your childhood about being gay. there only a certain amount of time you can hear it before you believe it. especially at such an impressionable age.
So that would fit into the 'Gay because i'm different' category then?
UserSince2005
09-12-2016, 10:23 AM
So that would fit into the 'Gay because i'm different' category then?
I guess,but then they could have always been gay just a coincidence
like you find straight guys with girly voices.
Withano
09-12-2016, 11:17 AM
I think you're trying too hard to simplify it
Smithy
09-12-2016, 11:20 AM
I think if you have a feminine voice and get teased throughout your childhood about being gay. there only a certain amount of time you can hear it before you believe it. especially at such an impressionable age.
I don't think you can be convinced you're gay, you're either born gay or not :shrug:
arista
09-12-2016, 11:29 AM
Are you Getting Professional help
USER of many names 2005
Jamie89
09-12-2016, 11:29 AM
I don't think you can be convinced you're gay, you're either born gay or not :shrug:
Exactly, if you could be convinced into taking on a sexuality then something like conversion therapy wouldn't be so ridiculous and dangerous
arista
09-12-2016, 11:30 AM
I don't think you can be convinced you're gay, you're either born gay or not :shrug:
Yes Smithy
like another fella near you may get you a Hard On
So very Easy to find out
Life In The Fast Lane
Smithy
09-12-2016, 11:42 AM
Yes Smithy
like another fella near you may get you a Hard On
So very Easy to find out
Life In The Fast Lane
what
I wasn't born a straight woman so I had to become a gay manhttp://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar91218_172.gif
arista
09-12-2016, 12:04 PM
what
Like "you said" you are Born Gay
Feel The Force
UserSince2005
09-12-2016, 12:24 PM
When the gay gene is found i will believe its as simple as we are born gay.
arista
09-12-2016, 12:46 PM
When the gay gene is found i will believe its as simple as we are born gay.
Are you getting professional Help?
UserSince2005
09-12-2016, 12:51 PM
Are you getting professional Help?
For what purpose?
arista
09-12-2016, 07:58 PM
For what purpose?
To sort out your life
UserSince2005
09-12-2016, 08:10 PM
To sort out your life
babe why dont you just tell me if you have all this wisdom you portray.
Pete.
09-12-2016, 08:16 PM
I'm confused a bit with the OP so I'm going to say I'm straight and move on
Firewire
09-12-2016, 08:20 PM
I knew I was different before I knew I was gay
I'm not sure if they are connected
UserSince2005
09-12-2016, 08:53 PM
I knew I was different before I knew I was gay
I'm not sure if they are connected
Exactly, I think all gay epople had a sense that they were different before they even considered that they were gay.
jaxie
09-12-2016, 09:34 PM
Is being gay really different? People have been gay and straight all through history. Isn't it time we just accepted that as the norm?
Jordan.
09-12-2016, 09:42 PM
I never felt different growing up
BBUKAUSFAN
09-12-2016, 10:48 PM
stereotyping being "Gay" as your different is really outdated.
Jamie89
10-12-2016, 06:15 AM
Exactly, I think all gay epople had a sense that they were different before they even considered that they were gay.
Isn't that true of most people though? Feeling different in some way is something most people feel at some point, it's just part of growing up and discovering yourself etc. And sure, discovering your sexuality fits into that, but I don't think that it's something that's exclusive to sexuality.
Livia
10-12-2016, 10:58 AM
I'm straight. The poll says I need to mind my own business... but standing on the outside looking in...
My best friends are a gay couple. They got married this year in a wonderful, quite normal and traditional ceremony. They have good jobs and lots of friends from a variety of backgrounds. They pay their bills, put their bins out, have little domestic arguments just like a hetero couple. They are not defined by the fact that they're gay, that's only one thing that defines them. I don't know many people more achingly "normal" than them and it's been the same with all my gay and lesbian friends. I don't see them as any different and I don't think they really see themselves as different.
arista
10-12-2016, 12:52 PM
I never felt different growing up
How Nice
Crimson Dynamo
10-12-2016, 12:55 PM
there is no evidence you are born gay as far as I am aware?
UserSince2005
10-12-2016, 12:55 PM
I never felt different growing up
That is nice, but you must have a lack of awareness for the world around you.
Gays are only around 2% of the world.
We get discriminated against on a daily basis.
We are different to our straight counterparts.
We need to stand up and be proud.
UserSince2005
10-12-2016, 12:57 PM
there is no evidence you are born gay as far as I am aware?
I havent seen any either.
For me I didnt like football growing up.
That was a sign to my peers that I was gay.
That shaped my impressionable mind, and I was more open to exploring my sexuality.
I dont know whether I was born gay. But I do know that I have always been different from the norm.
UserSince2005
10-12-2016, 01:18 PM
I'm straight. The poll says I need to mind my own business... but standing on the outside looking in...
My best friends are a gay couple. They got married this year in a wonderful, quite normal and traditional ceremony. They have good jobs and lots of friends from a variety of backgrounds. They pay their bills, put their bins out, have little domestic arguments just like a hetero couple. They are not defined by the fact that they're gay, that's only one thing that defines them. I don't know many people more achingly "normal" than them and it's been the same with all my gay and lesbian friends. I don't see them as any different and I don't think they really see themselves as different.
As a straight person it very hard for you to be able to understand what its like to be gay.
To grow up with the deep shame that you are different from you peers and then to realise that the difference is that you are attracted to the same sex and how that is looked down upon. It is quite the traumatic experience for a young child's mind.
The fact that they seem so normal is maybe them compensating for the fact they feel so different?
A lot of gay people long to be seen as normal people in their adulthood because they were subject to so much shame in their childhood.
Crimson Dynamo
10-12-2016, 01:32 PM
I havent seen any either.
For me I didnt like football growing up.
That was a sign to my peers that I was gay.
That shaped my impressionable mind, and I was more open to exploring my sexuality.
I dont know whether I was born gay. But I do know that I have always been different from the norm.
Didnt like football :suspect:
what kind of fresh hell is this?
Livia
10-12-2016, 03:19 PM
As a straight person it very hard for you to be able to understand what its like to be gay.
To grow up with the deep shame that you are different from you peers and then to realise that the difference is that you are attracted to the same sex and how that is looked down upon. It is quite the traumatic experience for a young child's mind.
The fact that they seem so normal is maybe them compensating for the fact they feel so different?
A lot of gay people long to be seen as normal people in their adulthood because they were subject to so much shame in their childhood.
My friends don't suffer from being gay, it's who they are.
This isn't going to be popular but... some gay people enjoy the drama of being "different" when really, you're not. If family and friends weren't supportive of you as a child that's really sad, but you don't have to carry that with you forever. I was a skinny Jew at school, bookish and quiet and bullied mercilessly. Being different made me who I am. I'm sure it's the same for everyone, whoever you love, whoever you are.
Jamie89
10-12-2016, 03:39 PM
My friends don't suffer from being gay, it's who they are.
This isn't going to be popular but... some gay people enjoy the drama of being "different" when really, you're not. If family and friends weren't supportive of you as a child that's really sad, but you don't have to carry that with you forever. I was a skinny Jew at school, bookish and quiet and bullied mercilessly. Being different made me who I am. I'm sure it's the same for everyone, whoever you love, whoever you are.
No I kind of agree with this, for me personally I went through a hard-ish time when I realised I was gay but it was brief and any 'shame' I felt I'd put on myself, it didn't come from other people. I think I pretended to myself that my parents would be ashamed but again it was brief and once I accepted it myself I actually really started to like that I was gay, and when I came out there was no problems with anyone (my parents included which shows that any negative feelings I might have had were down to me) so I don't feel any ongoing need to 'compensate' for anything, or that anyone has made me feel like I'm different for being gay. I realise I'm lucky and it's not the same experience for everyone but I do think that for most people, it's just a case that you go through something, deal with it, and then you get on with life. Maybe if people have had bad experiences then it can lead to ongoing problems in future life and become something they can't properly deal with, but that's just an individual thing, not something that's simply down to whether someone's gay or not and could be true of any issue a person goes through.
Jamie89
10-12-2016, 03:41 PM
In all honesty some of the comments are bordering on classifying homosexuality as a disability :/
ArgyESC
10-12-2016, 03:57 PM
I had already had a feeling I was different before I realised I was gay, but as far as I'm concerned, the poll is not about this.
Crimson Dynamo
10-12-2016, 04:01 PM
people with addictions often say they always felt different to other people
Marsh.
10-12-2016, 04:26 PM
Are you Getting Professional help
USER of many names 2005
:joker: :joker: :joker:
thesheriff443
10-12-2016, 04:43 PM
Life is what you make it, gay or straight, suck it up and do the best you can with what you have been given.
ArgyESC
10-12-2016, 04:55 PM
people with addictions often say they always felt different to other people
:suspect:
UserSince2005
10-12-2016, 04:58 PM
I guess ive just struggled with being gay a lot because im so masculine and i have to tell everyone about the fact im gay and they dont believe me :sad:
empire
10-12-2016, 10:37 PM
alot of women especially seem to throw alot of really silly, and I mean really silly stereotypes in what a straight guy should be like or what a gay guy should be like, the most funny thing is that there are a large number of gay footballers in the country, and most of them are not open in public about it, and yes even in the F1 races there are a few gay men who drive racing cars, but both sports don't fit there stereotypes, todays straight men are alot more less masculine and seem a bit more feminine in 2016, I took the pi'' out of my mate for wearing a fragrance that had a smell of women's purfume, and I said to him, you paid 50 pound to smell like ariana grande's knickers, its a funny world these days.
UserSince2005
10-12-2016, 10:42 PM
alot of women especially seem to throw alot of really silly, and I mean really silly stereotypes in what a straight guy should be like or what a gay guy should be like, the most funny thing is that there are a large number of gay footballers in the country, and most of them are not open in public about it, and yes even in the F1 races there are a few gay men who drive racing cars, but both sports don't fit there stereotypes, todays straight men are alot more less masculine and seem a bit more feminine in 2016, I took the pi'' out of my mate for wearing a fragrance that had a smell of women's purfume, and I said to him, you paid 50 pound to smell like ariana grande's knickers, its a funny world these days.
yeah no wonder all these new gays on here never felt any different from their peers with how men act nowadays.
Marsh.
10-12-2016, 11:04 PM
people with addictions often say they always felt different to other people
People with addictions are often insanely selfish and narcissistic so it doesn't surprise me that they would want to feel like they're different. They're the centre of their own universe.
Marsh.
10-12-2016, 11:06 PM
there is no evidence you are born gay as far as I am aware?
There's no evidence it's something you develop later either?
Crimson Dynamo
10-12-2016, 11:06 PM
People with addictions are often insanely selfish and narcissistic so it doesn't surprise me that they would want to feel like they're different. They're the centre of their own universe.
Ex-Mrs LT spilt tea
Marsh.
10-12-2016, 11:08 PM
Ex-Mrs LT spilt tea
Ex-Marsh dad split bag of coke tea too.
Kizzy
11-12-2016, 07:10 AM
Define 'different'.
Gstar
11-12-2016, 08:16 AM
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