Size Zero

[lily.]

It creeps it's way into most threads, and yet doesn't have a thread of it's own.

Discuss Size Zero...

[Sunny_01]

Very disturbing Linda, I feel that the whole size 0 thing is very worrying. I hate the thought that my child would look at these people and think that she would like to look like them, or that in fact that is how she "should" look.

[lily.]

I agree with you Sunny. As a mother, I think the trend is very worrying indeed. My daughter is naturally quite slim at the moment. She's almost 10. She has a huge appetite and eats a good variety of stuff. I'm hoping she will always have the desire for food, and I wont ever have to worry about her starving herself!

Funnily enough she was talking about diets the other day and she said: "I wouldn't like to be on a diet because then I wouldn't be able to get cake and that would be harsh!" and a look of sheer horror came over her face. I had to laugh. The stuff she comes out with is priceless sometimes.

[Ella]

Those pictures are actually making me feel Physically ill..That's not right!

I mean someone very close to me in Annorexic..But thats tptally different from models! The person I know hates the way she looks, Hence why she is the way she is,But it seems these so called models aim to be that horrible looking..Its really really disturbing :bored:

[Mrluvaluva]

Does anybody find this sexy? I don't. It is a real turn off.

[Ella]

Originally posted by BAZG
Does anybody find this sexy? I don't. It is a real turn off.

Its disgusting! I mean you can clearly see her ribs..and her arms are all boney and she has no boobs. It makes me mad how these women can be classed as models :mad:

[lily.]

I found that one on my travels too Baz, and I found it extremely disturbing.

There's one going around of Keira Knightly which looks like that too.. Here it is..

[Ella]

Originally posted by Linda
I found that one on my travels too Baz, and I found it extremely disturbing.

There's one going around of Keira Knightly which looks like that too.. Here it is..

She used to be soooo good looking! Now she looks like a skeleton..Literally. Her cheeks are all sunken in and she looks ill.

[Mrluvaluva]

The first pic you posted Linda makes me feel sick just to look at.

Ewwwwwwwwwwww

[lily.]

Yeah, I know. I mean, there's nothing wrong with being thin, but ffs.. that takes the biscuit.. (or maybe she ought to take a biscuit, and a sammich while she's there, and not follow it up with the obligatory 2-finger dessert...:rolleyes:)

Here's a good one I found though.. Nicole Richie is actually doing the right thing and putting a wee bit of weight back on...She looks nice on the left, even though she's still thin,, she isn't sick looking.

[Dr43%er]

Those pics are so wrong. They look like they have just been freed
from a concentration camp.

I don't know anybody who would aspire to look like that, so how does it help to sell clothes? My mind is literally boggerling.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Dr43%er
Those pics are so wrong. They look like they have just been freed
from a concentration camp.

I don't know anybody who would aspire to look like that, so how does it help to sell clothes? My mind is literally boggerling.


Fashion houses have the belief that garments look better the smaller they are, and they like their models to be thin to accomodate this. Models at the bottom rung of the ladder therefore aspire to be stick thin to get contracts. It's a stupid trend really, but models know a career in fashion can be quite lucrative.

[Ella]

Its pathetic! I mean how can they think that seeing thier ribs, having no boobs, Having sunken cheeks, Looking ill is good for them! Or looks good for that matter! Makes me so so so so so mad!!!! :mad::mad::mad:

[tinkerbell]

Originally posted by Linda
It creeps it's way into most threads, and yet doesn't have a thread of it's own.

Discuss Size Zero...


The very 1st photo is disturbing! do they actually think its attractive?
We are pressered to look like that by magazines , celebrities and all of them idiots that think bein a size 0 is ok!

:nono:

[Ella]

Basically the model in the 1st picture is clearly Anorexic..I mean how can she not be. So the agency that hired her think that its ok for a Mentally ill women to show off their clothes. Pathetic!

[xGemmax]

God ANOTHER thread about this? It's getting very boring, but it seems you lot don't tire of moaning about it.. :sleep:

Anyway this is ridiculous. The first picture is disguisting, but it is PHOTOSHOPPED to make her look like a skeleton. I don't have the original, but have seen it and she is just a normal thin girl. The second girl is skinny, but she is a particularly thin model, and I'm sure she's naturally like that. All models are skinny thats why they are models.

BAZG the picture you posted i don't know whether you are trying to prove a point or anything but that is so obviously altered that i don't know how anyone didnt notice. That's Gisele Bundchen i think - and she is skinny but healthy model who does Victoria's Secret, watch some of their shows.

This girl is one of my favourite models, not all models are size 0 as the mdeia wants you all to believe she is a uk 6 and shes beautiful

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r49/gemm16/freda10.jpg



Anyway I'm honestly getting sick of debating about it I'm not going to again. Models have always been skinny and if you don't like it tough

[Mrluvaluva]

Well if you are sick of debating about it Gemma. DON'T. Simple really.

[tinkerbell]

Models have always been skinny because they have to be!! No one will hire not a ksinny model.... and dont tell me every single model is naturally thin!!

[Dr43%er]

Sophie Dahl?

[Sunny_01]

I think that as parents we have a right to worry and debate this till we are blue in the face. Every day I worry about my very image consicous 13 nearly 14 year old. She is naturally slim at 5'6 and a size 8ish. She does look for role models in the entertainment industry as do most girls her age. I like to think that she is self aware enough to not think that women that look as repulsive as that are actually how she should aspire to look.

[~Kizwiz~]

I think it good that this sort of issue is being debated...... it is a forum and therefore we can discuss whatever we feel like.

The size zero issue make me very made. I know not all models are skeleton thin but there are a few, having looked through model agency's websites (surely they wouldn't have been altered!!!!!) who look shocking thin!

Now what sort of an example are we setting to young girls????

[Lauren]

Originally posted by xGemmax
All models are skinny thats why they are models.

Cause or effect? Your point is confused.

Were they skinny first, or skinny because of being a model? Why SHOULD they be skinny? - it's because people like you are in the mindset that if you're bigger than a size 0 (99% of the population) - you're too big to show off clothes.
Are you saying all of these women are naturally like this?
Do you think it's right their alter their diet and manipulate their metabolism JUST to please the business?

Also, I'm confused as to why designers prefer anorexic models. Not many people seem to like it, they look rank, and they make the clothes look drab.... ?

Originally posted by xGemmax
God ANOTHER thread about this? It's getting very boring, but it seems you lot don't tire of moaning about it.. :sleep:

Where is the other thread about it? There was a post about whether boys prefer skinny or curvy girls, except there's a difference between skinny, and anorexic.
And many of us are concerned about the impression it's making on young girls, it's a very real and serious issue that NEEDS to be discussed.

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by xGemmax

This girl is one of my favourite models, not all models are size 0 as the mdeia wants you all to believe she is a uk 6 and shes beautiful


A size 6????? You do realise that the average size of a UK woman is 14 dont you? It makes me mad that people consider a size 6 to be a perfect weight.

I was a size 6 when I was 17, I felt pressurised to be thin so I starved myself! I went through years and years of obsessing about my weight and trying to go back to that size, when I realised that it just not healthy. I'm happy and healthy the weight that I am now..... and it aint a size 6!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lauren]

Gemma, since your predominant argument is that many of these pictures have been altered. I introduce you to:

http://english.pravda.ru/img/idb/photo/6-264.jpg

Eliana Ramos.... Same girl as this:

http://english.pravda.ru/img/idb/photo/5-332.jpg

The pictures were not altered. She's now dead, because of anorexia nervosa.

[~Kizwiz~]

Oh my god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am in shock! Thats just not right, I am sorry to say Gemma, I know you think that models are beautiful but skinny doesn't equate to beauty!

[Lauren]

And I'm sorry Gemma, if this seems like I'm on a vendetta against you, but I really disagree with you on this issue.

Originally posted by xGemmax
Anyway this is ridiculous. The first picture is disguisting, but it is PHOTOSHOPPED to make her look like a skeleton. I don't have the original, but have seen it and she is just a normal thin girl.

It's not photoshopped... at all :bored: If you have the "original" I'd be pleased to see... it may be one of the only remaining photo's of this girl since she's now dead because of the business. :sad:

[Sophii3x]

OMFG! That first picture is just disturbing!
These girls should be in hospital (recovering) rather than on the catwalk.

[Red Moon]

I have daughters and I worry what this instance by the fashion industry to use such unrealistically skinny models will do to them when they reach their teens.

How could any modeling agency think these models are attractive? Why would a clothing designer want her in their clothes. People at the fashion show aren't going to remember what she was wearing, they will only remember there appearance.

These girls look pathetic. There's no excuse for that kind of skinny. Any fashion industry idiot who thinks this girl is 'the look' is crazy. . And surely when a woman buys clothes she wants to know what they will look like on her not some underfed stick insect.

When a man takes a woman in his arms, he does not want to feel her skeleton. He wants to feel smooth skin and graceful curves.

Personally I think the fashion industry should start acting responsibly and stop using these models and the designers should start to produce clothes for real people.

Some of these girls look like they have just stepped out of Dachau, Terblinka or Auschwitz. In fact some of them had more meat on their bones and the ones that didn't were dead!

[xGemmax]

Originally posted by Lauren
Gemma, since your predominant argument is that many of these pictures have been altered. I introduce you to:

http://english.pravda.ru/img/idb/photo/6-264.jpg

Eliana Ramos.... Same girl as this:

http://english.pravda.ru/img/idb/photo/5-332.jpg

The pictures were not altered. She's now dead, because of anorexia nervosa.

You may be happy to kid yourself but there is no way someone could still be standing being that skinny, these pictures are FAKES and were proven to be along with a bunch of other photos. These pictures are disguisting, the girls in them look like walking skeletons and i find it offensive people would photoshop pictures like that.

[xGemmax]

Were they skinny first, or skinny because of being a model? Why SHOULD they be skinny? - it's because people like you are in the mindset that if you're bigger than a size 0 (99% of the population) - you're too big to show off clothes.
Are you saying all of these women are naturally like this?
Do you think it's right their alter their diet and manipulate their metabolism JUST to please the business?

Designers prefer skinny girls to show off their clothes thats just the way it is. And no you don't have to be a size 0 where did you get that from? All the runway and photoshoot standard sample sizes are made in a size 8 to fit most models but there are smaller ones and larger ones as well. Some models that were 'accused' of being a size 0 have actually quoted themselves that they are no way near a size 0.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by xGemmax
there is no way someone could still be standing being that skinny

She's dead.... I did say in my post.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliana_Ramos

Please could you quote the source where it said they were fake, please?

[GlitterEyes]

I don't know how anyone can like seeing people so thin to show off their clothes. The pictures of ultra skinny models look awful and not "sexy" or "beautiful" at all. Ok it may cost less in fabric but I cannot see any other plus side. Whether the photos have been photoshopped or not doesn't take away the fact that she died aswell as her sister. The size 0 designers who have size 0 models are killing people. People look up to models sadly and think size 0 is a good thing when infact size 0 is being ill.

[GiRTh]

Gemma's comments are very disturning. In particular the matter of fact way she simply dimisses the whole debate. I wonder does she think that everybody is making it up ?

[Lauren]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Gemma's comments are very disturning. In particular the matter of fact way she simply dimisses the whole debate. I wonder does she think that everybody is making it up ?

I've posted various facts to show that the girl in the first picture is now dead due to malnutrition caused by anorexia nervosa. She's not a "normal thin girl" as Gemma described her... she's now a normal dead girl.
She was a US size 4 (UK size 6)!
This is worrying....

Edit: And just to quote my source that she was US size 4: http://www.fashionmodeldirectory.com/models/eliana_ramos
:thumbs:

[James]

There's a theory that the fashion industry favours skinny models because it is dominated by gay male-designers and that is their idea of feminine beauty. What do people think?

I agree that pictures of the skeletal models in this thread are very disturbing.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by James
There's a theory that the fashion industry favours skinny models because it is dominated by gay male-designers and that is their idea of feminine beauty. What do people think?

Wow James, thats an interesting theory... I hadn't thought of it that way. Although I do know that many of the gay people I know see feminine beauty in curvy women - moreso than straight men!
Although I have to allow for cultural differences, because most of the fashion designers are also from Italy and America and values are completely different.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by James
There's a theory that the fashion industry favours skinny models because it is dominated by gay male-designers and that is their idea of feminine beauty. What do people think?

Wow James, thats an interesting theory... I hadn't thought of it that way. Although I do know that many of the gay people I know see feminine beauty in curvy women - moreso than straight men!
Although I have to allow for cultural differences, because most of the fashion designers are also from Italy and America and values are completely different.

I think Baz's theory on this is the most accurate. The designers make the clothes as tiny as possible.

[James]

It might be also that designers don't want the models to actually be attractive because it would take the attention away from the clothes.

[sol]

OMG, are those 2 pics of that model real? If they are then that is just sick. I can't believe people let them get that thin.

[Lauren]

The skinny women modelling the clothes are different, contemporary, and controversial. Having these women in the designers clothes shows the clothes as being new, and contemporary - even slightly controversial.
It provides a label and an identity for the fashion industry. Thats my theory on why they use skinny models.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by James
There's a theory that the fashion industry favours skinny models because it is dominated by gay male-designers and that is their idea of feminine beauty. What do people think?

It is a very interesting idea. My cousin is a clothes designer, she is female, and designs real sized clothes for George. She would be disgusted by the idea of using models that are so skinny they are on the edge of death.

I think you might be right. They are designing womens clothes for boys.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by sol
OMG, are those 2 pics of that model real? If they are then that is just sick. I can't believe people let them get that thin.

Well the first woman is dead now. Gemma says they're fake but after numerous requests she hasn't presented the source to say they're fake. They could well be, but until I see they are - I'll believe they're real.
The bottom line is that she's dead for being that skinny now - bearing in mind she was a UK size 6 - which is bigger than the now desired size 0. :shocked:

[sol]

I dont think anyone should get that thin. I think the thinest anyone should be allowed to go is like Nikki off BB7 and even she looked awfully skinny at times.

[Ella]

Originally posted by Lauren
Gemma, since your predominant argument is that many of these pictures have been altered. I introduce you to:

http://english.pravda.ru/img/idb/photo/6-264.jpg

Eliana Ramos.... Same girl as this:

http://english.pravda.ru/img/idb/photo/5-332.jpg

The pictures were not altered. She's now dead, because of anorexia nervosa.

Oh my goodness, Thats just palin wrong! Gemma you can't think that being that skinny is attractive.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by James
It might be also that designers don't want the models to actually be attractive because it would take the attention away from the clothes.


But it's like someone mentioned earlier James. If you were at a catwalk show, and the girl in that photo came out onto the runway, you would be so shocked by her body, you would not be looking at what she was wearing, unless you were a pretentious prick, like a lot of people in the fashion industry are.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by BAZG

But it's like someone mentioned earlier James. If you were at a catwalk show, and the girl in that photo came out onto the runway, you would be so shocked by her body, you would not be looking at what she was wearing, unless you were a pretentious *****, like a lot of people in the fashion industry are. Not you, of course.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by BAZG

But it's like someone mentioned earlier James. If you were at a catwalk show, and the girl in that photo came out onto the runway, you would be so shocked by her body, you would not be looking at what she was wearing, unless you were a pretentious *****, like a lot of people in the fashion industry are. Not you, of course.

I would never use a model like that!

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by James
There's a theory that the fashion industry favours skinny models because it is dominated by gay male-designers and that is their idea of feminine beauty. What do people think?

I agree that pictures of the skeletal models in this thread are very disturbing.

That's a very interesting theory James, I hadn't even thought about that!

I also find it shocking that in the case of Sophie Dahl she burst onto the scenes and was a size 16 and 38DD bra-size, she defied the stick-thin modelling.

Everyone was amazed and thought that times were changing.... sadly she has now gone to the size of any model you see.

[Bells]

I am deeply disturbed by these pictures, and the concept as a whole. It's one thing wanting to shed bad habits and become healthy, quite another to resort to this and that too purely for the fashion industry!

[Ella]

[i]Eliana Ramos, 18, was found dead in her bedroom by her grandmother, with whom she was staying in Montevideo, the Uruguayan capital. She is believed to have suffered a heart attack. A full postmortem examination report has yet to be released but local reports suggested that Ms Ramos, who was taking part in Montevideo fashion week, suffered from “alimentary deficiency”. Her parents, who were on holiday at the time of her death, were said to be devastated.[i/]

Luisel Ramos, 22, collapsed and died on the catwalk during a fashion show in Montevideo last year. Eliana had just embraced her sister and wished her good luck in what was their first fashion show together.

Her father said afterwards that his daughter had been on a regime of lettuce and diet cola in an attempt to lose weight.



At 18 aswell.Its shocking and very very disturbing.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Ella
Her father said afterwards that his daughter had been on a regime of lettuce and diet cola in an attempt to lose weight.

:bored: The fact she was a UK size 6 when this happened speaks volumes about the modelling industry. Clearly size 6 wasn't meant for her frame, it was fatal - yet she STILL felt she needed to lose weight. I sympathise for any girl that feels that way.

[Ella]

What makes it even more sad is that her sister was just 22 when she died.

Her father lost two daughters at the hands of the modelling industry :sad:

[Ella]

Her body mass index (BMI) was found to be below the level considered by the World Health Organisation to be starvation.

Despite what happened to her sister, Ms Ramos, nicknamed Elle by family and friends, had decided to continue her modelling career.

She had signed with one of Argentina’s top agencies and the blonde, blue-eyed teenager was considered to have a promising career in Europe and the United States in front of her.

The younger Ms Ramos had recently been signed up by Dotto Models, the agency that represented her sister.

Yesterday Pancho Dotto, the agency’s owner, dismissed claims that an eating disorder was responsible for Eliana’s death. “She was very healthy, she ate well and played sports,” he said. “She was never extremely thin. It is absurd to talk of alimentary deficiency, anorexia, bulimia and all that.

“It is clear that the deaths of the Ramos sisters are due to a genetic problem and not an eating disorder.”

Luisel’s death, one of several among young South American models in recent months, prompted an intense debate in the fashion industry about the use of so-called “size-zero” models. In Madrid and Milan, fashion week organisers imposed a BMI minimum for all models taking part in shows.

London’s refusal to ban “zero-size” models caused a furore about whether organisers were doing enough to protect young girls desperate for success in an industry that demands that its models should be thin.

In São Paulo organisers of the city’s fashion week banned models under 16 and demanded a health certificate from girls taking part in runway shows, partly in response to the death last November of Ana Carolina Reston, 21, who died of complications arising from anorexia. At the time of her death she weighed 6st (40kg).

[Lauren]

How can Panco Dotto (Clearly a stage name) say that she was healthy when she was below the levels of starvation?! She couldn't do sports if all she lived on was lettuce and diet coke - it's impossible.
Denying anything is wrong seems to be a big trend amongst models and aspiring models?

[Sunny_01]

I think that anyone who dismisses all of this as nonsense is very niave about the whole issue.

The hard fact is this girl died from anorexia and in her latter stages of life was considered a top model! how can that be right!

Designers really need to be more socially responsible about they way they portray women in fashion.

[Red Moon]

One of Mr Dotto latest victims straight from his website. She clearly too thin for her own good and the picture isn't a fake!

[Sunny_01]

I just think that this issue will never go away sadly - more and more designers are now refusing to use models with an usafe BMI though which shows some level of responsibility

[~Kizwiz~]

Size zero models 'made' me 4st

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/kizzywizzy/0200702119800-1.jpg
Fighting back ... brave Emma today, right, and at the height of her illness, weighing less than 5st

By DULCIE PEARCE
January 17, 2007

EMMA WHEATLEY sighed with despair as she flicked through her fashion mags.

Turning the pages and gazing at the models with their protruding collarbones and rib cages, she wished she could one day look like them.

Staring at her reflection in the mirror, the 15-year-old felt disgusted by what she saw. She vowed not to eat another mouthful for at least two days.
Yet at the time she was envying the stick-thin girls in the glossies, 5ft 5in Emma weighed only 4st 10lb.

Furthermore, she had just been told she was so thin she was two weeks from death.
The date was March 2001 and Emma’s heart was close to shutting down.
She was also nearly blind and had to admire those models with the magazine pages pressed right up against her face.

She had not had a period for a year and was too weak to dress herself.

Like an increasing number of young, impressionable girls, she was dying from the eating disorder anorexia nervosa.

Thankfully, Emma went on to make an amazing recovery — and now, aged 20, she is a healthy size 10.

But she remains angry about the fashion industry’s championing of size zero figures and is telling her story today as part of Sun Woman’s campaign to promote healthy body images.

Her eyesight did not recover and she can barely see without contact lenses.

She also has fertility problems which she has been warned could make it difficult to conceive in the future.

Emma remembers feeling immense pressure to look like the skeletal celebrities and models that fill magazines.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/kizzywizzy/0200702120000.jpg

And she is horrified there are now websites ENCOURAGING anorexia (so-called “Pro Ana” sites) devoted to extolling the looks of ultra-skinny stars.

The bank cashier, from Stone, Staffs, says: “In my opinion these sites breed insecurities which creates the illness. People on them talk about celebrities they idolise, like Nicole Richie and Kate Bosworth.

“These stars have never admitted to having eating disorders, but they are terrible role models, and shouldn’t be allowed on the covers of magazines — they simply promote the illness.

“Celebs like Charlotte Church and Beyonce have the kind of bodies women should want. They look healthy and comfortable with themselves, rather than thin and miserable. The Pro Ana websites are an absolute disgrace. They fuel people’s addictions to not eating, making some sort of sick competition out of it.

“I have been on sites where girls are egging each other on to fast for days and giving tips on how to get rid of food without their parents finding out.”

Emma’s illness began at the age of 14 when she was bullied by schoolmates.
She says: “Most of my friends were boys and a group of girls at school didn’t like it.

They would call me names and shout abuse at me every day, which always included the word ‘fat’.

“I was only a size 12 and had never thought of myself as overweight. But I started to think they were right. They made my life a misery and I thought the only way to stop them was to lose weight.

“I desperately wanted to look like the skinny girls on catwalks and in magazines.”
Thankfully Emma’s parents, Karen, 42 and Peter, 48, became concerned by her weight loss and took her to see their GP.

In September 2000, the teenager was diagnosed with anorexia.

Karen and Peter desperately tried to help their daughter but were forced to watch her die slowly.

Emma recalls: “I was losing half a stone a week and I only drank water. I was doing 1,000 sit-ups before I went to bed and going to the gym every day.

“I had no idea how bad I looked. All I could see was a big, fat blob in the mirror. I’d mistake protruding bones for rolls of fat, and was convinced I was huge.”

As Emma’s weight loss increased, her body started to break down.
“I couldn’t do anything for myself and my parents had to bathe and dress me,” she says.
“I didn’t even have the strength to sit up on my own.
“My periods stopped and my eyesight was so bad I had to press a book to my nose to read it. These are the side-effects of anorexia most people don’t know about.”

Her parents were advised to place her in an eating disorder rehabilitation unit.
“I desperately didn’t want to go there, and begged to stay at home. Mum eventually agreed, but everything had to change.”

With the threat of being hospitalised and her parents’ support, Emma slowly started eating again. She gradually gained enough weight to get her out of danger.
She remembers: “It sounds strange, but eating was the hardest thing I have ever had to do. I still have to plan everything I eat, even now, and I don’t know if my obsession with food will ever stop.”

“It has done terrible damage. I can’t see a thing without my contact lenses, when I used to have perfect eyesight. I will always have trouble with my menstrual cycle and may have problems with my fertility.”

Survivors of eating disorders can also face long-term problems including tooth decay, osteoporosis and ovarian cysts.

Emma is now married to Ian, 37. She says: “I’m a healthy 9st and size 10 but sometimes think I’m overweight.

“I still have days when I can’t stand the way I look and hate feeling so fat,” she says. “But looking at some of the ‘thinspiration’ celebrities on the Pro Ana sites, I can see they look awful and don’t find that appealing any more.
“People who visit these sites should realise anorexia isn’t fun. It’s not glamorous but a disorder that will affect you for life.”

Source: The Sun (http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,11000-2007020589,00.html)

[Lauren]

Oh my god! Kiz, thats such a terrible story - but it's brilliant she's fought back.
She looks gorgeous as she is now, such a recovery.

It's disturbing people turn to that :sad:

[Crystal-Rose]

:shocked:
omg!
that frist photo is horrific!
she must be way in the minus sizes
let alone size zero!
How could the modeling industry have let her got like that
surley she should have had support as it was clear she had an eating disorder :bored::bored:

[Red Moon]

Tomato diet model dies of anorexia A fashion model who lived on a diet of apples and tomatoes has died from kidney failure on the eve of a photographic shoot.

Ana Carolina Reston, 21, who had been modelling since she was 13, weighed six stone.

The 5ft 7in Brazilian was due to travel to France to work but instead spent the last three weeks of her life in hospital. Her death comes amid fears that designers are still using size zero models suffering from anorexia despite calls that they should be banned because they encourage eating disorders in young women.

The trend for size zero models – equivalent to a British size four – began as a fad in Los Angeles. Miss Reston died in San Paolo on Tuesday. She is the second anorexic model to die this year. Luisel Ramos, 22, suffered a heart attack in August after living on lettuce leaves and Diet Coke for three months.

Relatives said Miss Reston had resisted admitting she was ill. Geise Strauss, 30, her cousin, said: "When she did eat, she ate very little and she'd go to the bathroom and make herself sick as soon as she left the table. She liked apples and she adored tomatoes but that was about it."

Viviane Setti, the mother of Miss Reston's boyfriend, said: "Ana's death should serve as a wake-up call to all modelling agencies about anorexia. There's nothing glamorous about an ending like hers."

Last month, specialists at the eating disorders service and research unit at King's College, London, wrote to the British Fashion Council criticising the use of super-thin models who are "clearly anorexic".

Source:The Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/11/17/nmodel17.xml)

Picture Credit:FMD - database (http://www.fashionmodeldirectory.com/models/Ana+Carolina_Reston)

[Red Moon]

And one of the people partly to blame Nicole Miller.


In the Unites States, Banana Republic and Nicole Miller will introduce "sub-zero" sized fashions for women this fall, taking skinny sizes to a new low.

Source: NBC 11 (November 17, 2006) (http://www.nbc11.com/health/10345797/detail.html)

[MarkWaldorf]

^^That just shows how dangerous 'size zero' really is.

[Lauren]

Sub-zero? Dear God.

[Red Moon]

That is this thin........ (Victoria Beckham)..... UK size 4

[lily.]

I'm utterly appalled at the comments posted here by Gemma. They are very pro-ana and I find it worrying that a young girl (I'm not sure what her age is) has been influenced so much by the fashion industry that she thinks this is all ok.

I'm just wondering how long it will be before a comment is posted directed at myself or someone like me (in the "over size 12" category) saying that we are only criticizing these models because we are jealous.

[lily.]

This is disturbing:

CLICKY-CLICKY (http://community.livejournal.com/proanorexia/)

This part especially:

6 weeks ago, I had a baby... she is beautiful! I did really well while I was pregnant... was pretty healthy for the most part. When I got pregnant, I weighed 117 (at 5' 7"). When I had her 6 weeks ago, I weighed 157 (pregnant). I am now 134. I have gone back to not eating this week and I feel SO MUCH BETTER! But let me tell you what was said to me: My husband's friend told me that I look beautiful as a new mother and of course, my response to him was "don't you remember what I looked like as a size 2?" Then he said, "You are a new kind of beautiful... like a Beyonce beautiful." He meant it as a compliment... but I personally think that Beyonce looks fat. I have 17 pounds to go. I have lost 7 just this week... so I am off to a good start... no more Beyonce curves!

I hate curves!!

How would she feel if this were her daughter's words?

[James]

In another thread I mentioned the documentary I saw a while ago which suggested that eating disorders might not totally be the result of media pressure to be slim. I have found an article about it and the transcript of the programme. It is quite interesting to read.

Excerpt of article...


Doctors studying the causes of the eating disorders anorexia and bulimia believe it has less to do with media images of slim-figured models and more to do with biological and genetic factors.

Anorexia nervosa is a form of intentional self-starvation. It affects about 5% of young girls in Britain. It is the psychological illness with the highest death rate.

Bulimia nervosa involves a cycle of starving and eating binges and is also highly dangerous.

Some campaigners blame the incidence of such eating disorders on the prevalence of slim role models in modern society.

But research indicates that the disorders are a problem even in a society where fat is considered beautiful and has produced evidence that some people could be genetically more likely to develop them.....


Full article - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/259226.stm

Transcript of programme - http://web.archive.org/web/20010316013736/www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/fat3trans.shtml

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Linda
This is disturbing:

CLICKY-CLICKY (http://community.livejournal.com/proanorexia/)

This part especially:

6 weeks ago, I had a baby... she is beautiful! I did really well while I was pregnant... was pretty healthy for the most part. When I got pregnant, I weighed 117 (at 5' 7"). When I had her 6 weeks ago, I weighed 157 (pregnant). I am now 134. I have gone back to not eating this week and I feel SO MUCH BETTER! But let me tell you what was said to me: My husband's friend told me that I look beautiful as a new mother and of course, my response to him was "don't you remember what I looked like as a size 2?" Then he said, "You are a new kind of beautiful... like a Beyonce beautiful." He meant it as a compliment... but I personally think that Beyonce looks fat. I have 17 pounds to go. I have lost 7 just this week... so I am off to a good start... no more Beyonce curves!

I hate curves!!

How would she feel if this were her daughter's words?

If anyones thinking "Lauren's just like Beyonce" - just go ahead and say it, I won't be offended. :wink:

Right anyway, this is serious - I shouldn't make jokes. That extract is sad Linda, especially when she see's the pregnancy as a burden - what makes her motivated to go back to being anorexic again? Is it the media?

[Lauren]

And James, there's been Psychological studies done on Anorexia Nervosa and the influence of the media. It was found that Egyptian women who moved to Britain had a higher chance of getting Anorexia as opposed to if they stayed in Egypt... the concordance rate was VERY high.
I can't remember exact details of the study, but it basically showed that media has a big influence on it.

[Sunny_01]

Originally posted by Linda
I'm utterly appalled at the comments posted here by Gemma. They are very pro-ana and I find it worrying that a young girl (I'm not sure what her age is) has been influenced so much by the fashion industry that she thinks this is all ok.

I'm just wondering how long it will be before a comment is posted directed at myself or someone like me (in the "over size 12" category) saying that we are only criticizing these models because we are jealous.

I agree with what you say here Linda, the words do sound pro-ana which is very disturbing. I am in the over size 12 gang as well so I must just be jealous of how thin these girls are NOT!

[James]

Originally posted by Lauren
And James, there's been Psychological studies done on Anorexia Nervosa and the influence of the media. It was found that Egyptian women who moved to Britain had a higher chance of getting Anorexia as opposed to if they stayed in Egypt... the concordance rate was VERY high.
I can't remember exact details of the study, but it basically showed that media has a big influence on it.

Here is a journal article that refers to it - http://www.emro.who.int/Publications/EMHJ/0502/20.htm

Google Scholar brings up a load of papers that cites it, if you are interested... http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&cites=15321593837462233554

[lily.]

Originally posted by Sunny_01
I agree with what you say here Linda, the words do sound pro-ana which is very disturbing. I am in the over size 12 gang as well so I must just be jealous of how thin these girls are NOT!

This is bringing a whole new meaning to "drop dead gorgeous" isn't it? Apparently it's fashionable to be ill.

[Sunny_01]

Well I would rather my family remained unfashionable if thats how you have to look to be called "fashionable" :cheer2:

[xGemmax]

I can't remember exactly where those photos were proven to be fake, but i still thought it would have been obvious anyway.

http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/skinny.html < please visit this website which shows these photos are not real! If i can find more examples i will show them too.

[Red Moon]

Okay..... even that being the case the in the orginal picture the girl is still far to thin to be heathy.

[Emilee]

OMG! That story is horrible...
Size Zero is scary........

[Sunny_01]

Originally posted by xGemmax
I can't remember exactly where those photos were proven to be fake, but i still thought it would have been obvious anyway.

http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/skinny.html < please visit this website which shows these photos are not real! If i can find more examples i will show them too.

Ok we can all trawl through the net to find examples of thin women and sites that refute the images. The hard fact is many women who are in the public eye are worryingly underweight. Victoria Beckham, Nicole Ritchie to name but 2 it wouldnt be hard to throw out a long list though. These women have worked hard to make sure they are in the public eye, if they do that then we have a right to debate them and worry about the impact they have on our children.

[Mrluvaluva]

For instance, in that pic of Sienna Miller on the 1st page of this thread, she is looking way too thin. Has that been pgotoshopped?

[lily.]

Originally posted by BAZG
For instance, in that pic of Sienna Miller on the 1st page of this thread, she is looking way too thin. Has that been pgotoshopped?

I can't find it. Who posted it?

[Mrluvaluva]

What am I talking about!! I meant Keira Knightley. Oops! lol

[Emilee]

This thread is really disturbing... most of the pictures are like live skeletons.... Anyone who thinks being that skinny is actracive are way out of their minds.. Its sick.

[lily.]

The Keira one isn't photoshopped. It's a red carpet pic and she was on the telly lookin like that.

[lily.]

Go to this page (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=393860&in_page_id=1773) and click on gallery.

[tinkerbell]

All the gay desighners are making girls like that, gay people are really bitchy and for them skinny is much sexier than curves, they even tell models they r arms are too fat...stupid!

Why do desighners use really skinny models if 60% of population is nowhere near that size, what are they trying to say??

[Lauren]

The one thats been "photoshopped" doens't really matter, cos she was thin enough to die... thats all that matters.

[GiRTh]

This is causing some very lively debate.

I'm glad Gemma found proof that the photo's were photo shopped. Bearing that in mind these girls are clearly too thin and will suffer in later life.

[James]

Snopes says the pictures have been altered...

http://www.snopes.com/photos/people/models.asp

The models in some of the real pictures still look quite thin though.

[Lauren]

The pictures were exaggerated but the models are still too thin, one of them still died for being at that weight - and still felt that she needed to lose more weight.

[Z]

A few years ago now, I think it was a Miss Switzerland competitor had liposuction so she could take part, and the day of the contest was quite cold and she ended up dying of pneumonia because she wasn't accustomed to cold weather as a thinner woman. I don't think she was even particularly fat, which is the sad thing. I think her name was Gabriella Grosman, but I'll check that later.

[lily.]

Did you just delete that and repost it? Cuz, I'm sure I saw that about an hour ago.

Edit to add: I see you are banned now.. so that might explain some things.

[xGemmax]

Originally posted by The_Messenger


Edited by Sunny_01 - removed post by banned member

I totally agree. I honestly think people should stop interfering.:rolleyes:

[xGemmax]

More photoshopped pictures >http://skinnypics2.blogspot.com/2006/06/hall-of-shame.html

[Emilee]

Thanks for posting those - That was completely disgusting.... anyone who looks up to that and thinks it is good or attrictive are completely mad!

[Lauren]

Originally posted by xGemmax
I totally agree. I honestly think people should stop interfering.:rolleyes:

People should stand back and watch young girls killing themselves? :rolleyes:

Yeah... thats moral.

[Emilee]

LOL - Good Point Lauren.... People cant just stand by and watch, you have to do something if you dont beleive it is right..

[Sunny_01]

So worrying about the whole size zero issue and for my daughter and how it impacts on her is now interfering :cloud:

[lily.]

Gemma, you are obviously pro-ana which is your choice. I suggest you keep your warped ideals to yourself here though, because there are impressionable young girls on here who might actually be influenced by them.

[Ella]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Linda
This is disturbing:

CLICKY-CLICKY (http://community.livejournal.com/proanorexia/)

This part especially:

6 weeks ago, I had a baby... she is beautiful! I did really well while I was pregnant... was pretty healthy for the most part. When I got pregnant, I weighed 117 (at 5' 7"). When I had her 6 weeks ago, I weighed 157 (pregnant). I am now 134. I have gone back to not eating this week and I feel SO MUCH BETTER! But let me tell you what was said to me: My husband's friend told me that I look beautiful as a new mother and of course, my response to him was "don't you remember what I looked like as a size 2?" Then he said, "You are a new kind of beautiful... like a Beyonce beautiful." He meant it as a compliment... but I personally think that Beyonce looks fat. I have 17 pounds to go. I have lost 7 just this week... so I am off to a good start... no more Beyonce curves!

I hate curves!!

How would she feel if this were her daughter's words?

If anyones thinking "Lauren's just like Beyonce" - just go ahead and say it, I won't be offended. :wink:

Right anyway, this is serious - I shouldn't make jokes. That extract is sad Linda, especially when she see's the pregnancy as a burden - what makes her motivated to go back to being anorexic again? Is it the media?

WHAT THE!!!!??? How on earth is Beyonce fat! I think she has a stunning figure! I love the way she looks. That's worrying :nono:

[lily.]

I know Ella.. the way she shakes that boo-tay is legendary. I've tried it but muh ass is too flat.. LoL

[Ella]

http://www.celebritygalleriesfree.com/az_pics/thumbs/Beyonce%20Knowles_nude_picture_13.jpg
She looks amazing here...airbrushed but her figure is amaaazing!

LOL Yeah same here Linda! Grrrr...I wanna be bootylicious!

[lily.]

She shakes it like it's on a hinge. No matter how much you practise, you've either got the shake or you haven't. LoL

[Ella]

Lol yeah..Beyonce has the shake.

God imagine her and her butt doin the shake and vac! That would be awesome! She'd have it perfected!

[lily.]

Lmao.. I remember that!! Shake n Vac ads.. are they still on?

I also remember this kid who used a sherbet fountain to Shake n Vac her mum's new living room carpet.. that went down well.. LoL .. mind you, I think she was only about 5 or 6 years old.. :laugh:

[GiRTh]

Beyonce has been airbrushed down in that image,

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by xGemmax
More photoshopped pictures >http://skinnypics2.blogspot.com/2006/06/hall-of-shame.html


Whilst some of those pics are quite evidently photoshopped in some cases (some to the extreme), not all of them are comparing the same photo. Models can look slightly thinner or fatter (is that the correct word - I don't think so but it is the opposite of thinner), depending on the angle they are photographed on. And you know what, some of the girls in the real photos are way too thin in them, never mind the fake ones! I personally value my life more than this and would rather be large and healthy than thin and malnourished and destroying my health & body.

[lily.]

Ahh.. the elusive Baz.. we have just been discussing your whereabouts.

Anyway, well said!

[xGemmax]

Originally posted by Linda
Gemma, you are obviously pro-ana which is your choice. I suggest you keep your warped ideals to yourself here though, because there are impressionable young girls on here who might actually be influenced by them.

WTF? I am obviously pro ana? And you OBVIOUSLY don't know what you are talking about. It's like if anyone disagrees with the majority they are accused of all sorts. I see the only person who had some fair opinions on the subject, their post was removed for some reason.:mad: All i have done is prove those nasty pictures were fake. Sorry if you all would have liked to have carried on believing in youre own deluded world's that they are real, you all seem to be rather angry that i have proved you wrong.

[xGemmax]

Originally posted by Ella
http://www.celebritygalleriesfree.com/az_pics/thumbs/Beyonce%20Knowles_nude_picture_13.jpg
She looks amazing here...airbrushed but her figure is amaaazing!

LOL Yeah same here Linda! Grrrr...I want to be bootylicious!

That picture has been heavily airbrushed.

[lily.]

Originally posted by xGemmax
WTF? I am obviously pro ana? And you OBVIOUSLY don't know what you are talking about. It's like if anyone disagrees with the majority they are accused of all sorts. I see the only person who had some fair opinions on the subject, their post was removed for some reason.:mad: All i have done is prove those nasty pictures were fake. Sorry if you all would have liked to have carried on believing in youre own deluded world's that they are real, you all seem to be rather angry that i have proved you wrong.

The fake pictures aren't the issue. I don't care whether the pics are real or fake. If you had read through my posts you would find that the pictures posted are neither here nor there. The issue I have is with women who starve themself to become a size they clearly aren't naturally meant to be.

I also have an issue with the fashion industry encouraging this behaviour, and turning a blind eye to those who suffer and sometimes die because of it.

I am not angry at being proved wrong, because I never stated that I was certain the pics were real. So, if that's your argument, then it's pretty flimsy.

You openly state that you find models who are rake thin with protruding bones to be attractive, when clearly they are ill. This is why I suggest you are pro-ana. You also imply that it's ok for women to get to size zero with no regard for the impact they have on their health. If I have misconstrued your remarks, then I apologise, but I have to say that is how you have come across in many posts.

As for the mob mentality accusations, again, I think you will find if you read through any of my posts, that I don't go with the flow and agree with everyone else in the thread. I have my own opinions and whether the majority agree or disagree doesn't influence me at all.

[Sunny_01]

Gemma - just so you know - the post that was removed because it was written by a banned user. We are having real issues with this user so sadly the only person you thought was an advocate of what you say has no posting rights!

I am trying hard to understand why you are so rude in the way you address other members when discussing this issue, you give the impression that you are sitting there going "there stamps feet" when writing your reponses.

I really couldnt give a monkey's chuff whether the photos are fake, like Linda I worry about the whole size zero culture and the impact it may have on "my" children! As a parent I wouldnt be normal not to worry. I dont want my children to look like skeletons, or like they need to be on a drip.

I have a very athletic teenager who always takes into consideration what she eats which makes me hyper alert! I make sure she always eats a balanced diet to give her the energy she needs to allow her to carry on with the sports that she so loves.

[Lauren]

Gemma, I worry you're the deluded one here. You've ignored ALL of our points about many of the models not being a natural size zero and using... lets say 'unconventional' methods to become said size. This then leads to other impressionable young girls doing a similar thing, and this is where the danger occurs and people take up fatal rituals whereby they make themselves sick or starve themselves (and you cannot deny this is the case).

[Sunny_01]

I really feel that we need to step away from saying things about each other here and focus on the topic.

[Chrizzle]

I know some pictures are disturbing, but I am certainly not one to judge, because we do not know the story.
Some people cannot help it, people forget it can be an illness.

Ive been a fan of Nicole Richie for years, when she was definately NOT the thinnest girl in the world.
Magazines were calling her fat and ugly, and I remember an E4 advert for Simple Life described her as 'Paris' un attractive friend'
"Starring the attractive Paris Hilton and Paris' un attractive friend!"
She lost all that weight, and hit a perfect size, but carried on losing the weight!
But at the moment Nicole is still thin, but I think she is beautiful. Saying that, the pictures of her in the blue bikini were disturbing!

The good thing about all of this, is, size 0 models have been banned and its no longer seen as a good thing. Young girls think its sick and dont want to be like it.

[Bells]

I've always thought Nicole was prettier than Paris as well, because Paris to me has strange features. Not that she's ugly, just IMO Nicole's prettier and I'm probably one of the few to think that. I never knew she used to be referred to as Paris' unattractive friend - that's gotta hurt, especially when I don't even think she is or was unattractive.

[Chrizzle]

Yeah it was in the advert for either Road trip or Interns by that 'funny' E4 voiceover guy. Im sure it was meant for a joke, but its just another thing the media do to mess up people.

The amount of 'thin stars' 'chubby celebrities' magazine covers I see in the shop is so annoying!

[Sophii3x]

I was looking through my old magazines the other day and there was an article about Nicole. They branded her 'The Chubby One'. How wonder she lost all of that weight, with the media picking on her!

[SiMoN!]

Beyonce dont do nothing for me

[Bells]

Beyonce's really beautiful IMO. Her body's great yeah, but she's just so lucky to have such a pretty face as well. :hugesmile:

[Chrizzle]

I agree, Beyonce has a great body, and face.
Her lips are nice.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by ice_maiden02
I've always thought Nicole was prettier than Paris as well, because Paris to me has strange features. Not that she's ugly, just IMO Nicole's prettier and I'm probably one of the few to think that. Nicole has a very pretty face where as Paris has a big nose and a slightly horse face. Ash, I agree with you.

[tinkerbell]

lol that pic of Beyonce is so airbrushed that i didnt recognise her face! most of the photos in mamagazines are airbrushed

What i hate the most is when magazines 1 weeks put very skinny celebrities on their cover and say omg ur so skinny bla bla bla and then the next 'celebs with chubby belly'...even tho they r not chubby....no1 is perfect

[Ella]

Originally posted by xGemmax
Originally posted by Ella
http://www.celebritygalleriesfree.com/az_pics/thumbs/Beyonce%20Knowles_nude_picture_13.jpg
She looks amazing here...airbrushed but her figure is amaaazing!

LOL Yeah same here Linda! Grrrr...I want to be bootylicious!

That picture has been heavily airbrushed.

Yeah and if you look, I said that! Doesn't mean they changed her figure though does it..I was showing what a great figure she had..not how many spots and blemishes she has :xyxwave:

[Ella]

http://www.donnecelebri.com/popstar/beyonce/beyonce_knowles_02.jpg

Now all the people that were moaning about the airbrushed one...This one shows her figure off better and isn't airbrushed!

AND LORD ABOVE YOU CANT SEE HER BONES!!!!

[GiRTh]

Fat cow:whistle:

[Ella]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Fat cow:whistle:

God I know! I mean...she has shape to her legs and she doesnt represent a human lampost, she needs to go on a diet tut tut

[GiRTh]

She looks great in that pic. Curvy and healthy.

[Ella]

Yeah she does..She has a God damn amazing figure. Perfect even!

[GiRTh]

I wouldn't go as far as that. A bit of a lard ass but plenty to get hold of.

[Ella]

Lard arse! lmao! :nono: I think she's gorgeous! I'd rather look like her then Nicole Richie and day!

[GiRTh]

I'd rather grab hold of a Beyonce than try to grab hold of a Nicole.

[Ella]

Lol you could grab Nicoles head! Thats bigger then her body!

[GiRTh]

Her ego's bigger than everything

[Ella]

Lol haha!!!

We're goin' to get shouted at! There's lots of Nicole fans on this Forum!

[Sunny_01]

Can I remind everyone that this thread is in the serious debates section. Enough people asked for this section so that they could talk without one liners all the time :angel:

[tinkerbell]

How long does it take to lose a stone? tho without starvin

[Emilee]

Why?? you thinking of dieting???

Coz i did the special K challenge for 2 weeks breakfast and dinner with a healthy tea.... and i lost 5 pounds in 2 weeks! i was well amazed!

[Bells]

^^^ Really? I might try something like that!

[Emilee]

It was good.... Everyone was laughing at me for bringing cereal to school for dinner. I did it last summer and had to buy milk from the cafeteria every break.. coz if i brought it from home it would go off..... haha.. the good times.:wink:

[Bells]

LOL... who cares what they think anyway eh?
It worked in the end.

[Emilee]

Yup not like it made a difference in the long run though....... Im never gonna be able to lose any weight coz im always gonna stay the same as i am now..... I always just go back to 8.2 whatever (omg! i'VE JUST POSTED MY WEIGHT ON THE INTERNET! :laugh3:)

I dont bother doing diets... eating healthy and excersiing regulary is the best thing to do. :bigsmile:

[Bells]

LOL that's ok.
And yeah you're right, except I don't do it as much! I should do really... I'll try harder, haha.

[Sophii3x]

I have a few magazine articles on size zero and eating disorders. I'll scan and then post them tomorrow.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by Sophii3x
I have a few magazine articles on size zero and eating disorders. I'll scan and then post them tomorrow.

Thank you Sophiii3x, it might just get this on topic before it is closed. I look forward to reading them.

Red

[Sophii3x]

Grrr.. I'm having problems with the stupid scanner! I'l have to ask my dad to fix it tonight.

Red, I don't have much stuff. Just a real life story about someone to went size zero, a page about size sero celebrities and then factfiles about anorexia and bulimia. I'll try to look for more though!

[Mrluvaluva]

From The Independent. It ain't just girls you know!

Size zero: The boys

Waif-like young men are also starving themselves to get the work they crave, report Ian Griggs and Lauren Veevers

As they sashay along the catwalks for the beginning of London Fashion Week today, stick-thin models will be the centre of attention. Yet not all will be women: boys are now under pressure to achieve "size zero" figures, too.

As fashion experts yesterday added to the row over skinny models, male stars of the shows revealed they are coming under enormous pressure to slim down to dangerously low weights. They say designers no longer want a buffed, toned male body to show off their clothes. Instead, they want waifs who can rival women in slenderness and androgynous looks.

One model, Ron Saxen, has written a book about his ordeal. It details how the pressure to be slim led to a battle with anorexia which, he says, almost killed him as he desperately tried to keep himself in work.

"My routine would be to get up, have a cup of coffee, run five miles, have another cup of coffee, cycle 20 miles, have a break and then swim 20 lengths of the pool," said Mr Saxen. "I put a lot of pressure on my heart. I had come down to 205lb, but I needed to get down to around 175lb to be a model. So I did it, and at 6ft 1in I was mostly skin and bones. But I got a contract."

Dior is one of the fashion houses leading the demand for stick-thin young men. Chris Ulyatt, 19, modelled for Dior last year. At 6ft 2in, he weighs only 10 stone.

"I was approached in the street by the head of Dior Homme," said Mr Ulyatt. "He was on what's called a boy safari. All the lads on the catwalk were tall and skinny and androgynous-looking. It's what they go for."

Health experts are warning of more men developing eating disorders. Janet Treasure, director of the eating disorders unit and professor of psychiatry at Guy's, King's and St Thomas' medical school in London, said that images of male models had an effect on men that was comparable with the size-zero fad among women.

The London Development Agency, which sponsors London Fashion Week, is to look at the pressure put on models to be thin and will examine whether the promotion of size-zero models leads to eating disorders.

Additional reporting by Marie Woolf

'The Good Eater: the true story of one man's struggle with binge eating disorder' by Ron Saxen is published next month

The Slim Line

Increasingly, designers want wafer-thin male counterparts to the female size zero. The hot look is tall and gaunt. Health experts say this sends a bad message to men prone to eating disorders.

David Lindwall

Modelled for: Dior Homme, Moschino, Paul Smith

Height: 6ft 2in

Waist: 29in

Body Mass Index (BMI): around 19

Nicolas Bemberg

Modelled for: Gucci, Lanvin

Height: 6ft 2in

Waist: 32in

BMI: 19.3

Chris Ulyatt

Modelled for: Dior Homme's campaign last year, designed by Hedi Slimane

Height: 6ft 2in

Waist: 29in

BMI: 18

[Sophii3x]

Right. I managed to get it working. Scanned loadss of things (got a bit carried away- so sorry if you think iv'e scanned a load of rubbish).

The only thing i didn't manage to scan was the real life story (lost the blinking Sugar magazine!!) But I managed to find another one in Love It magazine. I have to post it later though.

Most of these are celebrity related and I added something on anorexia and bulimia.
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(CLICK ON PICS TO ENLARGE- if the come up small on the other window just click on the image) Sorry, I had to cut each page in half becuse the files were too big for upload.

Celebrities
Some skinny celebrities (last year)
http://img158.imagevenue.com/loc388/th_63152_celeb1_122_388lo.jpg (http://img158.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=63152_celeb1_122_388lo.jpg)
http://img125.imagevenue.com/loc420/th_63160_celeb2_122_420lo.jpg (http://img125.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=63160_celeb2_122_420lo.jpg)


Ashlee Simpson (last year)
http://img174.imagevenue.com/loc447/th_62379_Ashlee1_122_447lo.jpg (http://img174.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=62379_Ashlee1_122_447lo.jpg)
http://img141.imagevenue.com/loc359/th_62387_Ashlee2_122_359lo.jpg (http://img141.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=62387_Ashlee2_122_359lo.jpg)

Nicole Richie (last year)
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Illnesses
Anorexia
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Bulimia
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More to come soon. :tongue:

[Emilee]

Thanks for them Soph... They were interesting.

[spacebandit]

I find nothing at all attractive about a stick in a dress.

[Emilee]

Me either..... I dont understand why clothes look good on size zero modelas either... They just hang off them. Not a good look.

[Sophii3x]

Ok, I have magazine articles which are size 0 related. Give me an hour to scan them and then I'll post them.:thumbs:

[Emilee]

Cool, Soph - Ill look forward to reading them.

[Red Moon]

Size Zero can cripple
YOUNG women and girls who starve in a bid to fit the "size zero" celebrity trend are in danger of ending up in a wheelchair by middle age.

Doctors at Sydney's Garvan Institute of Medical Research fear malnourished young dieters are stunting bone development, making them vulnerable to early osteoporosis.
Those who do not build up sufficiently dense bones by the time they are in their mid-20s are at much-higher risk of the brittle bone disease.

Nearly 80 per cent of girls aged 14-18 do not consume enough bone-building calcium, according to a report published by the Australian Institute of Health and Welfare last week.

The warnings come amid international debate on whether skeletal fashion models should be banned from the catwalk, and concern over the gaunt appearance of celebrities such as Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie.

Dr Jackie Center, clinician and senior research officer at the Garvan Institute, said thinness could come at a heavy price.

"You can do yourself a lot of harm later on by dieting and getting your body weight lower than it should be, particularly if you start missing periods," she said. "It puts you at high risk of having fractures – and each fracture has an adverse affect on your quality of life."

People with risk factors such as low body weight or a family history of osteoporosis could have bone density tests and be put on medication to prevent further bone loss, she said.

The Garvan Institute and the MBF Foundation are developing an osteoporosis "tool kit" to help GPs spot at-risk patients and start preventative action as early as possible.

Most sufferers are diagnosed when they break or fracture a bone, and the disease has caused major damage.

Smokers, heavy drinkers, people treated with steroids and the elderly are also more prone to the disease, which affects more than 2 million Australians and costs $7 billion a year.

"(Risk) depends on what your bone mass gets up to by the time you are in your mid-20s, which is generally when we have reached maximum bone density, and then how rapidly you start losing bone after 45," Dr Center said.

It is estimated that a third of men and two-thirds of women over 60 have osteoporosis.

Former AFL star David Polkinghorne, 51, was diagnosed after three rib fractures from the age of 41. Last year he broke his back coaching indigenous children in WA.

The active teetotaller with no family history of the disease said it was "very frustrating not to be able to do the things I was used to doing, and (not) doing activities with my children".
source:courier mail (http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,21760033-953,00.html)