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Northern Monkey
31-12-2016, 11:37 PM
Well said Joe
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Scarlett.
01-01-2017, 03:15 AM
I find it kinda funny that the 'non-PC' people get so triggered by the 'PC crowd'.

Both sides look like a bunch of angry children.

Niamh.
01-01-2017, 05:04 PM
I love Joe Rogan [emoji23]

Cherie
01-01-2017, 06:39 PM
Is triggered the worse word yet ?

Niamh.
02-01-2017, 04:23 PM
I find it kinda funny that the 'non-PC' people get so triggered by the 'PC crowd'.

Both sides look like a bunch of angry children.
I wouldnt say that Joe Rogan is "non PC" people

Vicky.
02-01-2017, 04:54 PM
I find it kinda funny that the 'non-PC' people get so triggered by the 'PC crowd'.

Both sides look like a bunch of angry children.
Indeed.
Is triggered the worse word yet ?

Its certainly up among the worst...

Tom4784
02-01-2017, 04:57 PM
A fear of change, nostalgia and ignorance are to blame for Trump taking the White House.

the truth
02-01-2017, 05:40 PM
A fear of change, nostalgia and ignorance are to blame for Trump taking the White House.

Thats wrong, its corrupt politicians deregulating corrupt corporations and condoning their tax avoidance and taking millions of jobs overseas, stagnant wages, endless wars, terrorism, over-population, insane trade deals like nafta and ttip and world record american debt

Tom4784
02-01-2017, 05:54 PM
People voted for Trump as a protest vote, hoping he'd change things up when his cabinet is full of CEOs, 1 percenters and bigots and his big 'victory' over keeping jobs in the US is mostly a lie.

Most of Donald Trump's choices and actions thus far were predicted correctly by people months ago and yet voters still voted for him because they preferred their own imaginary version of events over facts. If that's not the definition of ignorance then I don't know what is.

Northern Monkey
02-01-2017, 06:05 PM
Is triggered the worse word yet ?Yeah it's one of those crazy SJW words.They usually have to retreat to their safe space if they come into contact with anything that may trigger them:laugh:

Alf
02-01-2017, 06:08 PM
People voted for Trump as a protest vote, hoping he'd change things up when his cabinet is full of CEOs, 1 percenters and bigots and his big 'victory' over keeping jobs in the US is mostly a lie.

Most of Donald Trump's choices and actions thus far were predicted correctly by people months ago and yet voters still voted for him because they preferred their own imaginary version of events over facts. If that's not the definition of ignorance then I don't know what is.:clap1:

Northern Monkey
02-01-2017, 06:08 PM
People voted for Trump as a protest vote, hoping he'd change things up when his cabinet is full of CEOs, 1 percenters and bigots and his big 'victory' over keeping jobs in the US is mostly a lie.

Most of Donald Trump's choices and actions thus far were predicted correctly by people months ago and yet voters still voted for him because they preferred their own imaginary version of events over facts. If that's not the definition of ignorance then I don't know what is.

Yes it was a terrible choice they had to make.Still....better than Killary though.

Brillopad
02-01-2017, 06:13 PM
America has become a lot more dangerous place to live due to increased gang violence, gun crime and drugs. Much of this increase can be directly attributed to increased numbers of people from South America and Africa living in America. Not all change is good with this being a good example.

Americans have had enough and who can blame them. Fear of America becoming even more violent is an understandable fear and one Americans should not be expected to simply accept.

Then there is the influx of people from the Middle East with a culture and belief system very different from their own and allowing more terrorists/potential terrorists to get a foot-hold in the country causing further havoc. Really who the hell can blame them for not welcoming such change.

People talk of immigrants having a right to better lives but what about the lives of Americans who also want the same - to live their lives and bring up their families in s safer country. Better lives works both ways. The votes for Trump showed just how desperate ordinary Americans have become at an understandably unwelcome change.

Tom4784
02-01-2017, 06:13 PM
Yeah it's one of those crazy SJW words.They usually have to retreat to their safe space if they come into contact with anything that may trigger them:laugh:

I'm pretty sure it's something that was given prominence by the anti-PC crowd to describe SJWs which is ironic since that crowd tends to be fragile as hell.

Yes it was a terrible choice they had to make.Still....better than Killary though.

Really? An idiotic puppet for Putin with no self control, no political experience, no leadership skills and no clue of what he is doing is the better option over a political veteran who would have likely just kept on with what Obama was doing because she wouldn't likely want to rock the boat?

I don't see it.

Jack_
02-01-2017, 06:21 PM
'Triggers' are in actual fact related to PTSD and such warnings are merely for the benefit of people who may not wish to see something that may remind them of a traumatic event. The word is often used for the benefit of rape victims, anorexia patients etc etc but has been hijacked over the last year by so-called proponents of 'free speech' and used ironically in a ****ing worn out joke that was only mildly amusing in the first place. In reality they're just arseholes.

It's just a tiresome trope. That and 'snowflake' really are two of the worst things to come out of 2016.

Crimson Dynamo
02-01-2017, 06:36 PM
'Triggers' are in actual fact related to PTSD and such warnings are merely for the benefit of people who may not wish to see something that may remind them of a traumatic event. The word is often used for the benefit of rape victims, anorexia patients etc etc but has been hijacked over the last year by so-called proponents of 'free speech' and used ironically in a ****ing worn out joke that was only mildly amusing in the first place. In reality they're just arseholes.

It's just a tiresome trope. That and 'snowflake' really are two of the worst things to come out of 2016.

and using the word trope....

what would that be?

Northern Monkey
02-01-2017, 06:40 PM
Nope the 'so called proponents of free speech' got the phrase from the social justice warrior types who would put a 'trigger warning' before anything that they think might upset any of their brethren.Or would say things like 'I'm so triggered right now' if they come into contact with logic or an opposing ideology and are rightly mocked for it.
I say rightly because you are right about PTSD sufferers or some anxiety sufferers or victims of a violent crime who can have things which actually trigger their condition and that is not something to mock or find funny.What these SJW types did is turn 'triggered' into almost a dirty word by using it so casually and in the wrong context.

user104658
02-01-2017, 08:47 PM
There's a bit of irony in people complaining about the use of buzz terms like "triggering"... Whilst in the same breath using buzz terms like "SJW".

Pick a lane :nono:.

Kizzy
02-01-2017, 08:58 PM
'Triggers' are in actual fact related to PTSD and such warnings are merely for the benefit of people who may not wish to see something that may remind them of a traumatic event. The word is often used for the benefit of rape victims, anorexia patients etc etc but has been hijacked over the last year by so-called proponents of 'free speech' and used ironically in a ****ing worn out joke that was only mildly amusing in the first place. In reality they're just arseholes.

It's just a tiresome trope. That and 'snowflake' really are two of the worst things to come out of 2016.

Can we add SJW and PC brigade to that please? They are the most tiresome, frequently trotted out yet least understood umbrella terms ever.

Kizzy
02-01-2017, 09:00 PM
Nope the 'so called proponents of free speech' got the phrase from the social justice warrior types who would put a 'trigger warning' before anything that they think might upset any of their brethren.Or would say things like 'I'm so triggered right now' if they come into contact with logic or an opposing ideology and are rightly mocked for it.
I say rightly because you are right about PTSD sufferers or some anxiety sufferers or victims of a violent crime who can have things which actually trigger their condition and that is not something to mock or find funny.What these SJW types did is turn 'triggered' into almost a dirty word by using it so casually and in the wrong context.

Freudian slip?... :hehe:

the truth
02-01-2017, 10:16 PM
People voted for Trump as a protest vote, hoping he'd change things up when his cabinet is full of CEOs, 1 percenters and bigots and his big 'victory' over keeping jobs in the US is mostly a lie.

Most of Donald Trump's choices and actions thus far were predicted correctly by people months ago and yet voters still voted for him because they preferred their own imaginary version of events over facts. If that's not the definition of ignorance then I don't know what is.

How is it a lie? why did the democrats raise the tariffs on chinese steel from 20% to 550% in the last 2 years since trump started banging on about it?
The definition of ignorance is ignoring the utter ruthless corruption of killary clinton , her $250 million fortune despite not actually being in business and her monstrous cover ups which all helped embolden and arm ISIS

the truth
02-01-2017, 10:18 PM
I'm pretty sure it's something that was given prominence by the anti-PC crowd to describe SJWs which is ironic since that crowd tends to be fragile as hell.



Really? An idiotic puppet for Putin with no self control, no political experience, no leadership skills and no clue of what he is doing is the better option over a political veteran who would have likely just kept on with what Obama was doing because she wouldn't likely want to rock the boat?

I don't see it.

No leadership skills? start again

the truth
02-01-2017, 10:19 PM
America has become a lot more dangerous place to live due to increased gang violence, gun crime and drugs. Much of this increase can be directly attributed to increased numbers of people from South America and Africa living in America. Not all change is good with this being a good example.

Americans have had enough and who can blame them. Fear of America becoming even more violent is an understandable fear and one Americans should not be expected to simply accept.

Then there is the influx of people from the Middle East with a culture and belief system very different from their own and allowing more terrorists/potential terrorists to get a foot-hold in the country causing further havoc. Really who the hell can blame them for not welcoming such change.

People talk of immigrants having a right to better lives but what about the lives of Americans who also want the same - to live their lives and bring up their families in s safer country. Better lives works both ways. The votes for Trump showed just how desperate ordinary Americans have become at an understandably unwelcome change.

an estimated 14 million illegal immigrants in the usa

Brillopad
02-01-2017, 10:37 PM
an estimated 14 million illegal immigrants in the usa

That is a frightening figure and is having a significant negative effect on the country. Whilst I understand people wanting to create a fairer society, I just think some people go too far the other way.

People have to be realistic and have no right to expect that people should just accept changes in their quality of lives in order to accommodate people from other cultures - many of which have little or no appreciation for that.

Tolerance should be a two-way thing and clearly with many it isn't.

the truth
02-01-2017, 10:45 PM
That is a frightening figure and is having a significant negative effect on the country. Whilst I understand people wanting to create a fairer society, I just think some people go too far the other way.

People have to be realistic and have no right to expect that people should just accept changes in their quality of lives in order to accommodate people from other cultures - many of which have little or no appreciation for that.

Tolerance should be a two-way thing and clearly with many it isn't.

Its vital to really underline the fact there are milliuons of immigrants arriving every year, but this is 14 million illegal undocumented immigrants, goodness knows how many are criminals

Brillopad
02-01-2017, 11:03 PM
Its vital to really underline the fact there are milliuons of immigrants arriving every year, but this is 14 million illegal undocumented immigrants, goodness knows how many are criminals

I agree. How many Americans have died either directly or indirectly due to immigrants involved in criminal activity. People rightly want better control of this issue as it effects everyone.

In order to get this control you need a government who at least take the situation seriously.

the truth
03-01-2017, 01:33 AM
first rule of government is to protect its own people, the usa and the corrupt EU leaders have systematically failed in this

Scarlett.
03-01-2017, 03:16 AM
Yeah it's one of those crazy SJW words.They usually have to retreat to their safe space if they come into contact with anything that may trigger them:laugh:

You could say the same of the opposite crowd, they get just as 'triggered' that they have to retreat into their own safe spaces, they just use different words to describe them.

jennyjuniper
03-01-2017, 06:58 AM
Thats wrong, its corrupt politicians deregulating corrupt corporations and condoning their tax avoidance and taking millions of jobs overseas, stagnant wages, endless wars, terrorism, over-population, insane trade deals like nafta and ttip and world record american debt

I'll go along with this.