Lily Allen Schooled by Tommy Robinson

[Crimson Dynamo]

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Singer made comment as she responded to questions from the Robinson, 34
Ex EDL chief asked her if she had ever met victims of Muslim grooming gangs
Lily replied she was 'biased' because she'd only been attacked by 'white men'
Last year, she 'apologised on behalf' of Britain during trip to Calais Jungle Camp


Lily Allen has claimed she has 'only even been sexually assaulted by white males' during a heated debate with ex-English Defence League leader Tommy Robinson.

The singer - who caused controversy last year when she 'apologised on behalf' of Britain during a trip to the migrant camp in Calais - claimed on Twitter that the only attacks she had experienced were by white men.

The 31-year-old made the remark during an exchange with Robinson on migration and Asian grooming gangs.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4083474/Lily-Allen-sparks-outrage-claims-ve-sexually-assaulted-white-men-heated-Twitter-row-ex-EDL-leader-Tommy-Robinson.html


Top Comment: She is a complete embarrassment this country.

[Cherie]

The point about educating about whole races not being at fault is hard to argue against. White males are the new target

[Niamh.]

Yeah tbf it is kind of stupid to ask people not to generalise a whole group of people while doing that to another group of people

[Black Dagger]

Please do not bring that scumbag onto this forum, he's a piece of ****.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Please do not bring that scumbag onto this forum, he's a piece of ****.

why?

[arista]

Yes Tommy is not Illegal

[the truth]

lily being sexist and racist but of course getting away with it because her target is white men. what a coward she is.

[MB.]

Top Comment: She is a complete embarrassment this country.

And the EDL aren't? :umm2:

God this forum's become a dark place recently

[Black Dagger]

why?

Anti Muslim and former EDL leader who has been to prison.

Hardly screams 'nice guy, invite him round for Sunday dinner'.

[MB.]

Also says a lot that a woman saying she's been sexually assaulted is responded to with "she's only been sexually assaulted by white people, what a racist!"

[Crimson Dynamo]

And the EDL aren't? :umm2:

God this forum's become a dark place recently

That was the top comment from the DM comments section not Tibb

and I am not sure what the EDL has to do with the story?

[Tom4784]

A racist thug talking about not generalising an entire race of people is hilariously ironic.

As a white male, I can easily say that I'm apart of the most privileged demographic and the only time I've ever faced any kind of bigotry has been on the grounds of my sexuality, never because of my race or gender. While Lily's point is flawed by her generalisations, I can't help but agree with the core element of what she's saying.

A vocal part of any majority will always fight back against progress because it makes them insecure and under attack.

[MB.]

That was the top comment from the DM comments section not Tibb

and I am not sure what the EDL has to do with the story?

The name Tommy Robinson might give the story a slight link to the EDL, given he used to lead it an' all - and you clearly agree with that comment, so I don't see why you're trying to disassociate yourself from it

iirc wasn't the idea that migrants would come over and sexually assault our women a big part of the referendum? And yet when a woman talks about she's been sexually assaulted she's called a liar and an embarrassment to the country because it wasn't done by a brown forrin person? :think:

[the truth]

A racist thug talking about not generalising an entire race of people is hilariously ironic.

As a white male, I can easily say that I'm apart of the most privileged demographic and the only time I've ever faced any kind of bigotry has been on the grounds of my sexuality, never because of my race or gender. While Lily's point is flawed by her generalisations, I can't help but agree with the core element of what she's saying.

A vocal part of any majority will always fight back against progress because it makes them insecure and under attack.


White men are now more discriminated against than any other demographic

[Tom4784]

White men are now more discriminated against than any other demographic

_n5E7feJHw0

[Black Dagger]

And then you woke up hun.

[Northern Monkey]

lily being sexist and racist but of course getting away with it because her target is white men. what a coward she is.

Exactly:clap1:

[Jack_]

Only on this forum would Tommy Robinson be lauded :umm2: I don't actually agree with the point Lily's making here but the man is a ****ing dolt, and since we're talking of people being 'schooled', here's him being taken apart by Akala a few years back

opEM4I_g_Sc

[Crimson Dynamo]

The name Tommy Robinson might give the story a slight link to the EDL, given he used to lead it an' all - and you clearly agree with that comment, so I don't see why you're trying to disassociate yourself from it

iirc wasn't the idea that migrants would come over and sexually assault our women a big part of the referendum? And yet when a woman talks about she's been sexually assaulted she's called a liar and an embarrassment to the country because it wasn't done by a brown forrin person? :think:

I am not I am pointing out your error.


"wasn't the idea that migrants would come over and sexually assault our women a big part of the referendum? "


no

[Crimson Dynamo]

White men are now more discriminated against than any other demographic

Yep it seems to be the case now

[Crimson Dynamo]

Only on this forum would Tommy Robinson be lauded :umm2: I don't actually agree with the point Lily's making here but the man is a ****ing dolt, and since we're talking of people being 'schooled', here's him being taken apart by Akala a few years back

opEM4I_g_Sc

we are not here to judge his life but the thread was about a specific comment he made about Lilly Allen

[Jack_]

His shtick isn't new, the things he's arguing in his tweet to Lily are exactly the same as they are in the video I posted - meaning it's entirely relevant. You said he 'schooled' her, so I thought I'd take the opportunity to point out an occasion where he was tore a new arsehole.

[Scarlett.]

I think the point of Lily's original post was to take a statement that you hear people using a lot

"_____ need to take a look at how they threaten our laws and customs"

But replacing the race with white males, I imagine she probably did this so others would realise how it feels to be generalised, but of course people missed the point.

[Denver]

Lily should have suffered the 2016 curse the nasty vile stuck up her own ass talentless bitch

[Crimson Dynamo]

I wonder why she did not report her attacks to the police?

[Crimson Dynamo]

"The row comes three months after Allen was criticised for apologising on behalf of the UK during her visit to the Jungle, where she volunteered in a warehouse where donations came in before being distributed to the thousands of migrants and refugees living there.

In scenes that aired on the BBC's Victoria Derbyshire programme, she broke down in tears while meeting a 13-year-old boy from Afghanistan who said his father lives in Birmingham but who himself had camped at the Jungle for two months.

In late October Allen also said she and her daughters were turned away from a black cab by the driver after being told to "find an immigrant" to give her a ride instead.

She said at the time she felt like she had a "glimpse of what it feels like to be discriminated against".

A representative for Allen declined to comment.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/03/lilyallen-iveonly-ever-sexually-assaulted-white-males/

[DemolitionRed]

I wonder why she did not report her attacks to the police?

Perhaps she did or are you victim blaming?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Perhaps she did or are you victim blaming?

maybe i am virtue signalling

:think:

[DemolitionRed]

maybe i am virtue signalling

:think:

Nah… that’s just a meaningless political buzzword. I would of called it conjecture: an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information.
synonyms: guess, speculation, surmise, fancy, notion, belief, suspicion, presumption, assumption, theory, hypothesis, postulation, supposition;

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nah… that’s just a meaningless political buzzword. I would of called it conjecture: an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information.
synonyms: guess, speculation, surmise, fancy, notion, belief, suspicion, presumption, assumption, theory, hypothesis, postulation, supposition;


well all she is doing is SJW trolling to keep relevant

[Smithy]

White men are now more discriminated against than any other demographic

:joker::joker::joker:

[Livia]

I wonder why she did not report her attacks to the police?

I was just wondering the same thing. Too traumatised to talk to the police? But not traumatised enough not use the information as a weapon when she's been called out.

[Livia]

:joker::joker::joker:

When you've finished laughing - this is serious debates, you know that... right? You might like to remember that the white working class have been ignored for decades, hence the rise of UKIP and Trump. So a rich girl with a famous Dad adding petrol to the fire is the last thing needed.

[Kizzy]

Tries to be surprised the Mail is coming down on the side of the EDL.......fails.

[Livia]

Regardless of the fact that the person who pulled up the odious Lily Allen over her disgraceful comment, is a dispicable bigot... that doesn't stop him being right occasionally. As he is here.

[Kizzy]

When you've finished laughing - this is serious debates, you know that... right? You might like to remember that the white working class have been ignored for decades, hence the rise of UKIP and Trump. So a rich girl with a famous Dad adding petrol to the fire is the last thing needed.

Could you expand on this please? What exact sequence of events that involved the white working class specifically led to the rise of UKIP?
Does that mean that UKIP was formed specifically to serve the white working class then? How very odd.

[Livia]

Could you expand on this please? What exact sequence of events that involved the white working class specifically led to the rise of UKIP?
Does that mean that UKIP was formed specifically to serve the white working class then? How very odd.

Re-read the old threads. This isn't something I made up this morning. If you read a newspaper or watch the news you will have heard this before. You're only thinking it's "very odd" because I said it.

[Kizzy]

Regardless of the fact that the person who pulled up the odious Lily Allen over her disgraceful comment, is a dispicable bigot... that doesn't stop him being right occasionally. As he is here.

Why is Lily 'odious'? she made a comment on social media is all....She is entitled to an opinion isn't she?
It is not shared by the convicted criminal who the daily mail have martyred in their article, but that's no surprise.

[Livia]

Why is Lily 'odious'? she made a comment on social media is all....She is entitled to an opinion isn't she?
It is not shared by the convicted criminal who the daily mail have martyred in their article, but that's no surprise.

So you think she's right?

[Kizzy]

Re-read the old threads. This isn't something I made up this morning. If you read a newspaper or watch the news you will have heard this before. You're only thinking it's "very odd" because I said it.

If there's an old thread that admits that UKIP specifically serves the white working class then I must have missed it sorry, it is no more or less odd that you have reiterated it than anyone else.

[Kizzy]

So you think she's right?

I think she has the right... To say how she feels yes, don't you?

[DemolitionRed]

I think she's right but then I've read the entire conversation including the part where she explains why she said what she said.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Tries to be surprised the Mail is coming down on the side of the EDL.......fails.

He has nothing to do with the EDL now so why people keep trying that incorrect attack I have no idea?

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think she has the right... To say how she feels yes, don't you?

no one is arguing about her right to say stupid things

where is that coming from?

[Livia]

no one is arguing about her right to say stupid things

where is that coming from?

Quite, LT. She has the right to make herself look like a fool. As do those people who think white men are savages and non-white men are misunderstood victims.

[Livia]

I think she's right but then I've read the entire conversation including the part where she explains why she said what she said.

She would be encouraged that you were giving her views such attention.

[DemolitionRed]

He has nothing to do with the EDL now so why people keep trying that incorrect attack I have no idea?


This man makes no bones about hating Muslims. He's got a huge following from the far right. Just about everything he puts up on his Twitter feed is bait to the Islamophobics.

As for you two going on about her not reporting her assaults to the police. How do you know she didn't? presumption never solved anything but then a lawyer knows that.

[DemolitionRed]

She would be encouraged that you were giving her views such attention.

Why don't you try debate for a change Livia.

[Crimson Dynamo]

This man makes no bones about hating Muslims. He's got a huge following from the far right. Just about everything he puts up on his Twitter feed is bait to the Islamophobics.

As for you two going on about her not reporting her assaults to the police. How do you know she didn't? presumption never solved anything but then a lawyer knows that.

where does he say he hates muslims?

I think he has issues with the superstitious religion they follow


( and how do you know she isnt lying?)

[Livia]

Why don't you try debate for a change Livia.

If you have a problem with me, hit the report button.

You know where it is.

[Kizzy]

no one is arguing about her right to say stupid things

where is that coming from?

It's only stupid if you take it out of context, as it has been clearly.

[Livia]

It's hard to take a tweet out of context.

[Niamh.]

Stop getting personal with eachother etc etc

[Kizzy]

She would be encouraged that you were giving her views such attention.

The mail did that liv :/

[Livia]

The mail did that liv :/

Only my friends call me 'Liv'. Kiz.

Lily Allen didn't make that comment about white then? I thought she had.

[Tom4784]

I wonder why she did not report her attacks to the police?

I was just wondering the same thing. Too traumatised to talk to the police? But not traumatised enough not use the information as a weapon when she's been called out.

Probably because she felt like she couldn't get justice because of responses like this that are basically victim blaming.

[Livia]

Probably because she felt like she couldn't get justice because of responses like this that are basically victim blaming.


No one is victim blaming, Dezzy. Don't try to shut down the conversation by making it about that.

Tommy Robinson is a racist thug, but he has JUST the same right to speak as a pop singer with a famous Dad, and being a racist thug doesn't make him wrong about everything.

[Crimson Dynamo]

She called Tommy a racist for saying that the Turkish murderer was a migrant

turns out he was a migrant....

oh

[Kizzy]

It's hard to take a tweet out of context.

It's not, I'd say it refers to the rise of fascistic ideology in the UK,it's rather worrying.

[Livia]

She called Tommy a racist for saying that the Turkish murderer was a migrant

turns out he was a migrant....

oh

Shhhhhhhhhhhh...

[Livia]

It's not, I'd say it refers to the rise of fascistic ideology in the UK,it's rather worrying.

You have a rather light grasp on what a fascist is. Being on the Right doesn't make you any more fascist that being on the Left makes you a communist.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Tommy Robinson Verified account
‏@TRobinsonNewEra

Lily Allen: I've only been sexually assaulted by white males. Which she didn't report & police have no knowledge

[Marsh.]

I'm a white man. :)

[Kizzy]

You have a rather light grasp on what a fascist is. Being on the Right doesn't make you any more fascist that being on the Left makes you a communist.

What's that to do with anything? ...

who mentioned left and right?

[DemolitionRed]

Tommy Robinson Verified account
‏@TRobinsonNewEra

Lily Allen: I've only been sexually assaulted by white males. Which she didn't report & police have no knowledge


Who told Tommy Robinson that there was no police reporting? I call baloney on that one. Regardless of reporting an incident/incidents, many women who are sexually assaulted don't report it to the police. That doesn't mean it didn't happen, it just means they chose not to report it.

I've been sexually harassed within the work place and although I made a complaint to my boss, I didn't deem it serious enough to go to the police. Sexual assault can and does include sexual harassment.

[Livia]

What's that to do with anything? ...

who mentioned left and right?

YOU DID!

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'm a white man. :)
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RAPIST

[reece(:]

Lily should have suffered the 2016 curse the nasty vile stuck up her own ass talentless bitch

Wow well done elevating yourself to new lows :clap1:

The way Lily has been spoken about here is disgusting but this forum doesn't shock me at all anymore, I'd go on to say it's more like a self-parody nowadays

[Crimson Dynamo]

Who told Tommy Robinson that there was no police reporting? I call baloney on that one. Regardless of reporting an incident/incidents, many women who are sexually assaulted don't report it to the police. That doesn't mean it didn't happen, it just means they chose not to report it.

I've been sexually harassed within the work place and although I made a complaint to my boss, I didn't deem it serious enough to go to the police. Sexual assault can and does include sexual harassment.

do you mean like he called baloney on allens fake claim?

[Kizzy]

YOU DID!

Where?..

[Crimson Dynamo]

Wow well done elevating yourself to new lows :clap1:

The way Lily has been spoken about here is disgusting but this forum doesn't shock me at all anymore, I'd go on to say it's more like a self-parody nowadays

do you have specific examples where for some reason you think that your opinion of her is correct and others wrong?

[Marsh.]

It's hard out here for a bitch.

[Niamh.]

Closing this as people are just insulting eachother. Why is it so hard to just stick to the topic of the thread?