Stacy Francis is a cult member

[kingston]

She's a Scientologist/follower of the Nation of Islam... Just remember that a vote for Stacy is a vote for Xenu and a vote for the abuses that go on in these organizations...

Scientology 'Mean Girls' Kirstie Alley & 'The X-Factor' Star Stacy Francis Team Up Against Leah Remini, Her Sister Claims



Kirstie Alley isn’t the only Scientologist posting cryptic tweets in the wake of Leah Remini’s departure from the church.

Leah’s sister, Nicole Remini-Wiskow tells RadarOnline.com that The X Factor star Stacy Francis, who once performed at Scientology functions, is standing alongside Kirstie in making Leah’s life miserable.

On Sunday night, Kirstie tweeted a mysterious message to Stacy: “Oy!!! are you coming Tuesday night?? M has the details!”

As RadarOnline.com reported, Scientology critic Tony Ortega claimed that Kirstie hosted a Scientology crisis meeting at the home of Melinda Brownstone.

From Thetans to Xenu! Seven Things You Didn’t Know About Scientology

On Tuesday, Stacy then retweeted Kirstie’s post insisting her tweets about being betrayed by a friend were not about Leah.

Leah’s sister responded on Twitter, writing: “We know this girl who will have a show about being a Christian in Hollywood. Yet, she is siding with people who acting [sic] in evil. Interesting.” (Stacy has said she is in the “beginning stages” of filming a reality show.)

Stacy then responded with “nasty things on Twitter” in a Mean Girls like barrage, Nicole says.

Stacy deleted the tweets, but in messages recovered by RadarOnline.com, she writes, “People are so shady!! Say it if you got the nerve! Say it! don’t be cryptic!! Get the balls to say it to me! AND!ONLY IF YOU KNOW THE TRUTH!…DON’T BE A **** STARTER @nicoleremini YOU BETTER NOT BE TWEETIN ABOUT ME! Oh and nice you are friends again with your OWN SISTER Don’t do it…DEAR SELF>>>>>>GO TO BED! Dealing with bulimic crazy people won’t help you tonight.”

“Like, really?” Nicole says…”Wait a minute Stacy. We were the only ones that stood by you when your family and friends all abandoned you when you got pregnant by that mysterious man whose name we’re not supposed to mention.” Stacy’s baby daddy is Bishop Noel Jones, as RadarOnline.com has reported.

“Leah gave her money,” Nicole claims. “When Stacy wanted to be on The X Factor Leah set that up for her. My sister let her back into her life and all of a sudden she goes and writes this nasty tweet.”

“Leah is not the type of person to cause trouble like that,” Nicole says, and she’s shocked to see former friends go by the wayside. “We had no idea it was going to be like this.”

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/07/scientologists-kirstie-alley-and-x-factor-star-stacy-francis-team-up-to-slam-leah-remini-her-sister-nicole-claims/


Stacy Francis Reaches Out

I wonder if Stacy Francis considers herself a scientologist or a member of the NOI? Or are they one and the same? Or is she neither?

The scientology poster girl and Tom Cruise serenader is delivering messages from Louis Farrakhan?

Which way does this woman roll?

Based on her public statements and actions, it seems to depend on where the perceived advantage for Stacy Francis is…

But regardless of the answer to that puzzle: Taking advantage of the Lamar Odom tragedy to try to get a foot in the door…. with a tweet.

That’s just crass no matter who you are.

http://i1.wp.com/www.mikerindersblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/FullSizeRender.jpg?w=640

http://www.mikerindersblog.org/stacy-francis-reaches-out/

Here she is preforming at Tom Cruise's birthday party which was organized and staffed by cult staff...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ5qXs-d6Rk

[Jack_]

lol this gives me Glory Dave and that fake disabled video teas from BB11 #throwback

[Tom4784]

Queen of being in cults.

[Shaun]

oh if she's against Leah Remini then yeah she can be evicted first

Queen of King of Queens (even though that's a terrible show) (she was just on Drag Race once and a lot of fun)

[Wizard.]

Omg I watch that Leah Remini show. Scientology is evil, not miss Stacey being the devil reincarnate?

[kingston]

lol this gives me Glory Dave and that fake disabled video teas from BB11 #throwback

Only Stacy is a member of two abusive and destructive cults... Not just a bunch of drunken idiots who believe getting hammered brings them closer to God...

A Scientologist's Horrifying Memories of Child Abuse and Exploitation

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The world has become increasingly aware in the last decade or so that Scientology isn't just part of a punchline about closeted homosexual celebrities, but an actual cult that believes that humans are reincarnated aliens and uses mind control, physical abuse, and indentured servitude to not only keep its members in line, but keep the entire operation running. This week, Jenna Miscavige Hill—a third-generation Scientologist and the niece of David Miscavige, the church's leader—has released her tell-all memoir, Beyond Belief: My Secret Life Inside Scientology and My Harrowing Escape, of growing up inside the organization that isolated her from her family, robbed her of an education, and put her to work, full time, at hard labor when she was just seven years old.

It's one thing to think that Scientology is weird, gawk at its bizarre relationships with celebrities, and be horrified by stories from ex-members. But it's another to be confronted with the abuse of little children who were brought into the religion by their parents and forced into a life of oppression, severe punishments, and psychological control that borders on torture, as Miscavige Hill describes in her book. As far as brainwashing, miseducating, financially defrauding cults go, Scientology is right up there with the FLDS in its treatment of children. (Interestingly, Miscavige Hill's coauthor was Lisa Pulitzer, who also cowrote Stolen Innocence with Elissa Wall, who escaped the FLDS and became the star witness against polygamous sect leader Warren Jeffs at his trial for accomplice to rape.)

There's an excerpt from Miscavige Hill's book on Salon about Scientology's infamous Celebrity Center. It's really the only time in her memoir that she drops any famous people's names, so of course that particular chapter would attract attention. There isn't anything there that we hadn't read about before, but did establish the stark contrast in treatment that the celebrities experience compared to the members of Sea Org.

The accommodations were gorgeous, and the beautiful grounds made the experience enjoyable. Everything was tightly controlled and orchestrated, and if the celebrities themselves took things at face value, they'd simply see the act and never witness what went on behind the curtain. There was never a risk that they would get exposed to child labor or something similar that the Church didn't want them to see. Sea Org members at the Celebrity Centre appeared happy because it was their job to do that, so celebrities wouldn't know from talking to them or watching them whether they'd been paid their forty-five dollars that week, or if they missed their families.

The reason why there aren't celebrities scattered throughout Miscavige Hill's book is because, despite their public association with the religion, they weren't part of the day-to-day operations of the organization at its different bases.

When she was just five, the members of Miscavige Hill's family—her parents and her brother—were separated. She was raised by other people, while her parents worked for the church. (She wasn't allowed to speak on the phone privately with her mother, and there was a period of time when she went for two years without even seeing her.) When she was six or seven she moved to where her older brother was residing, a place called the Ranch, owned by the church, and where the members of Sea Org's children were to be raised and educated. She's not specific about its location, but it was in some remote desert area in California, that had once been a motel.

The children—nearly 100 of them—did not receive a traditional education, like math and science and history, but instead, took Scientology courses. They were completely isolated from not only their families, but also non-Scientologists. This included doctors and medical care. Children were not allowed to be given fever-reducing drugs, even if their temperature was over 103 degrees.

The kids were put to work, six days a week, on construction jobs renovating the old motel. This involved landscaping and digging and using pickaxes, even in the pouring rain.

Rock hauling to build stone walls was another arduous deck project. We would pick up rocks from a creek that ran nearby and put them into a pile, where another group of children would load them into a wheelbarrow and carry them tot he site of the newest rock wall. once the rocks were in place, yet another set of kids would lug around cement bags, and the older, more skilled kids would use the cement to secure the rocks in the wall.

She was seven! The kids were told that the hard labor was an exchange for them being allowed to live on the ranch.

We got calluses and blisters. We had cuts and bruises. Our hands lost feeling when we plunged them into the frigid water of the creek bed for rocks. When we pulled weeds from the scorched summer earth, our hands burned from the friction and stung from the nettle. The conditions we worked under would have been tough for a grown man, and yet any complaints, backflashing, any kind of questioning was instantly met with disciplinary action.

http://jezebel.com/5982520/how-scientology-abuses--exploits-children

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yep a vile piece of work and yet again the fan boys have gone too early

:joker:

Will they ever learn?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Pauline 2.0

[MB.]

Why can't we have Leah Remini

[Jamie89]

The Scientology thing is a bit worrying considering the extensive abuses and bullying that's existed within it... the thing is though there have been a lot of people who've been part of Scientology for many years and have come out of it and described the brainwashing and general mental stuff that happens that kept them in, even people who were directly responsible for abuses and have left have described it as 'escaping' mentally from it (and Leah herself was a member) so there's nothing to say that she won't at some point get out of it herself just like others have, and there's also nothing to say how involved she is in it, I do think that some people just like some of the ideas and concepts of it but aren't necessarily involved in any of the scary stuff, so I'll reserve judgement for now I think.

[T*]

wait what she's an xfactor reject how can she afford to be a scientologist :omgno:

[Headie]

Queen of Scientology

[kingston]

I do think that some people just like some of the ideas and concepts of it but aren't necessarily involved in any of the scary stuff, so I'll reserve judgement for now I think.

Please do some research and find out more on the subject... She's 100% brainwashed and fully supports all of the abuses that go on within the organization...

[kingston]

Queen of Scientology

Sorry but that title belongs to Tom Cruise...

[kingston]

.Scientology Connections: Is X-Factor Contestant Stacy Francis Telling The Truth?

Does X-Factor contestant Stacy Francis have a secret she wants to keep?

On last week's X-Factor, Simon Cowell's new reality talent show, there was a singer showcased named Stacy Francis.

The story she told was a sad one: single mom, two kids, abusive relationship in her past, struggling artist, too old (she's 42) to make it in the industry. It had all the elements of a great "triumph over tragedy" story, the kind America just eats up. However, there's more to Stacy Francis than meets the eye.

I first saw Stacy in an infamous video featuring none other than Scientology's crown jewel, actor Tom Cruise.

On the asbestos-laden Freewinds, a sea-faring vessel owned by the Church of Scientology, church leader David Miscavige threw an extravagant 40th birthday party for his best friend Tom Cruise. The video, which I actually was given a hard copy of from a former member of Scientology, was an embarrassment, especially when you realize the outlandishness of a supposed "church" leader throwing a big, fully-catered extravaganza for one of its members.

Back to Stacy, one of the highlights of the video is Tom Cruise being serenaded by an attractive black woman, singing directly to Cruise, the man of honor. Tom seems both embarrassed and elated by the attention, and some awkward dancing ensues. At the time, there was some speculation about Stacy, her involvement in the church and eventually all interest died down.

Fast forward to 2011, and there's Stacy again on the stage, but no mention of her auspicious beginnings in Hollywood, her rubbing elbows with Hollywood's rich and famous, or what if any, benefit she may have had in her career through her Scientology connections.

Even more disturbing is her sad tale of woe and how it might conflict with very recent past. A forum on WhyWeProtest.com is investigating inconsistencies in her story, including whether or not she's even divorced (it seems that's a recent development) and how hard has she really struggled in her career.

According to her IMDB page, she's certainly had moderate success and has a number of television appearances to her credit. She also starred in the role made famous by former American Idol contestant and Academy-Award winner Jennifer Hudson in Dream Girls at the San Diego Musical Theatre in 2008.

While Stacy says she's a single mom, but it seems disingenuous for her to imply she's raised her kids on her own, as her ex-husband runs a lucrative dental practice. Also of note is questions over a recent FB page deletion. Stacy claims on her current FB that another page was taken down that wasn't her. But sources are stating that's a lie and that page, which was personal in nature and contained a number of family photos, including her with her now "ex" husband Dr. Darwin Hayes, was taken down.

It certainly seems like Stacy did some revision on her history before her big close-up, perhaps in an effort to appeal to the judges and her future audience, unfortunately for her, the internet is not a great secret keeper.

Stacy may be a bona fide talent, but a down on her luck, rags-to-riches story she is NOT.

http://www.themortonreport.com/entertainment/television/scientology-connections-is-x-factor-contestant-stacy-francis-telling-the-truth/

[Headie]

Ok hun I think we've got the point now :thumbs:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Queen of Scientology

Time to change your avvie:joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Well done Kingston.

You have exposed her for the fake she is

:clap1:

[Beso]

Im over her..shade her dragging teas..whatever the **** that means.

[Marsh.]

Queen of finding God in a crisp packet

[Headie]

Time to change your avvie:joker:

I'll change it to her stood outside a Scientology building, queen of cults <3

Well done Kingston.

You have exposed her for the fake she is

:clap1:

Hardly fake when she's never claimed to not be a Scientologist? :joker:

[Cherie]

Sorry but that title belongs to Tom Cruise...

Oh!

[kingston]

Hardly fake when she's never claimed to not be a Scientologist? :joker:

Her wiki page states she is...

She is a Scientologist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stacy_Francis#Personal_life

I also have several other sources such as a list of courses she's taken...

http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/s/stacy-francis.html

[Cherie]

Im over her..shade her dragging teas..whatever the **** that means.

:laugh:

[Jamie89]

Please do some research and find out more on the subject... She's 100% brainwashed and fully supports all of the abuses that go on within the organization...

Do we know that though? I've only done a quick google search but there doesn't seem to be much information on her involvement apart from a few tabloid stories, like what OT level she's at for example, or their involvement in her career would be interesting to know (they're so secretive though). I don't believe that everyone involved is part of the abuses and tbh there have been people who have been heavily involved but have still come out of it so it's not as if everyone involved is beyond redemption.

[Headie]

Her wiki page states she is...



I also have several other sources such as a list of courses she's taken...

http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/s/stacy-francis.html

Exactly? That's what I'm saying it's hardly an expose when she's never denied it

[Crimson Dynamo]

She needs bb to evict her asap

[kingston]

I don't believe that everyone involved is part of the abuses and tbh there have been people who have been heavily involved but have still come out of it so it's not as if everyone involved is beyond redemption.

Here are a list of some courses she's taken...

Stacy Francis PERSONAL VALUES & INTEGRITY COURSE Celebrity 351 2003-09-01
Stacy Francis HUBBARD DIANETICS SEMINAR Celebrity 351 2003-09-01
Stacy Francis PURIFICATION RUNDOWN Celebrity 353 2003-12-01
Stacy Francis OBJECTIVES Celebrity 357 2004-04-01
Stacy Francis OVERCOMING UPS AND DOWNS IN LIFE COURSE Celebrity 357 2004-04-01
Stacy Francis TRS & OBJECTIVES CO-AUDIT COURSE Celebrity 359 2004-07-01
Stacy Francis HOW TO IMPROVE CONDITIONS IN LIFE COURSE Celebrity 359 2004-07-01
Stacy Francis BASIC STUDY MANUAL Celebrity 359 2004-07-01
Stacy Francis SPECIAL COURSE IN HUMAN EVALUATION Celebrity 361 2004-10-01
Stacy Francis ROUTE TO INFINITY COURSE Freewinds 54 2004-10-01
Stacy Francis KEY TO LIFE COURSE Freewinds 59 2005-09-01
Stacy Francis KEY TO LIFE COURSE Freewinds 60 2005-11-01
Stacy Francis HAVINGNESS RUNDOWN AUDITING Source 187 2007-01-01
Stacy Francis SUCCESS CONGRESS COURSE Freewinds 67 2007-03-01
Stacy Francis STATE OF MAN CONGRESS COURSE Freewinds 68 2007-06-01
Stacy Francis SCIENTOLOGY 8-80 COURSE Freewinds 76 2010-02-01
Stacy Francis SCIENTOLOGY 8-8008 COURSE Freewinds 76 2010-02-01

http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/s/stacy-francis.html

They give money to the organization... They are 100% involved in any abuses that go on within the cult...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3GF3W1poPs

[Oaker]

Queen

[kingston]

Exactly? That's what I'm saying it's hardly an expose when she's never denied it

Who said I was treating this as an "expose"? I'm merely informing the masses and encouraging people to think about what they are supporting...

[Jamie89]

Here are a list of some courses she's taken...



They give money to the organization... They are 100% involved in any abuses that go on within the cult...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3GF3W1poPs

That's not really 100% involvement though :laugh: It makes her partly responsible but I do think that some people in Scientology are just ignorant to a lot of what goes on. (The YouTube links aren't working btw, you need to just copy the bit after the "=" into the YT tags)

[Headie]

Who said I was treating this as an "expose"? I'm merely informing the masses and encouraging people to think about what they are supporting...

LT was under that impression

[kingston]

LT was under that impression

He was right... I've exposed her on the forums for what she is...

[Cherie]

Who said I was treating this as an "expose"? I'm merely informing the masses and encouraging people to think about what they are supporting...


:clap1:

[kingston]

That's not really 100% involvement though :laugh: It makes her partly responsible but I do think that some people in Scientology are just ignorant to a lot of what goes on. (The YouTube links aren't working btw, you need to just copy the bit after the "=" into the YT tags)

It does actually... Ignorance is not an excuse...

[Headie]

He was right... I've exposed her on the forums for what she is...

It's not an expose if its public information?

[kingston]

It's not an expose if its public information?

Public information that members here might not have otherwise been aware of...

[Headie]

Public information that members here might not have otherwise been aware of...

So, like I said, not an expose

[kingston]

So, like I said, not an expose

You're being petty... Clearly upset that we are not willing to basque in the glory that is Stacy Francis: Scientologist...

[kingston]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pks9lEwfNB8

[Tom4784]

I think we get the picture.

[Withano]

I've exposed her on the forums for what she is...

Who said I was treating this as an "expose"? I'm merely informing the masses and encouraging people to think about what they are supporting...

Oh right

[kingston]

For anyone who wants to question whether or not as an everyday Scientologist Stacy would be involved in the abuses of the cult need to look at some of the cults policies...

The first being "Keeping Scientology Working" (KSW)... Tom Cruise makes references to this in his famous tribute to cult video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVXGAUMK7UM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyLS7fakmRo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keeping_Scientology_Working

The next being the policy of "Disconnection" which is probably the most common of this cults abuses, the most widely practiced abuses, and the most destructive... Nearly all members would have participated in this abuse in one way or another... As a member Stacy is fully aware of this policy and would have participated in it if anyone in her life was critical in any way of the cult...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd_2XxCay-Q

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disconnection

[MB.]

I reckon there's a Scientologist conspiracy stopping all your YouTube links from working :think:

[kingston]

I reckon there's a Scientologist conspiracy stopping all your YouTube links from working :think:

:fist: Scientology

[Kazanne]

Yep a vile piece of work and yet again the fan boys have gone too early

:joker:

Will they ever learn?

:joker::joker::joker:

[Headie]

:joker::joker::joker:

:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:

[azi]

Oh wow.

https://68.media.tumblr.com/0f51247500e9d9eef84f29949b62094a/tumblr_oif52kjukn1sq7sjjo1_250.gif

[andybigbro]

I have no idea what Scientology is, can someone explain ? I cannot be arsed reading lots into it because I hate reading.

[Lstan]

She's a Scientologist/follower of the Nation of Islam... Just remember that a vote for Stacy is a vote for Xenu and a vote for the abuses that go on in these organizations...

Scientology and Nation of Islam are two different organisations.

[nonstop]

Shame she never joined the Illuminati, her music career could've took off.

[kingston]

Scientology and Nation of Islam are two different organisations.

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[kingston]

I have no idea what Scientology is, can someone explain ? I cannot be arsed reading lots into it because I hate reading.

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[Lstan]

PLbODhCP3GA

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Not sure how this proves the organisations are the same. Louis has advocated a practise of scientology but according to sources is not a scientologist. Just in the way scientology apparently borrows teachings from kabbalah doesnt mean they are the same thing.

Also dont know how this proves Stacy is a member of NOI which was the thread header.

[kingston]

Not sure how this proves the organisations are the same. Louis has advocated a practise of scientology but according to sources is not a scientologist. Just in the way scientology apparently borrows teachings from kabbalah doesnt mean they are the same thing.

Also dont know how this proves Stacy is a member of NOI which was the thread header.

http://i1.wp.com/www.mikerindersblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/FullSizeRender.jpg?w=640

[kingston]

Not sure how this proves the organisations are the same, also i would have appreciated an actual response given i had to look up the vids as yt vids dont play for me on here. Louis has advocated a practise of scientology but according to sources is not a scientologist. Just in the way scientology apparently borrows teachings from kabbalah doesnt mean they are the same thing.

Also dont know how this proves Stacy is a member of NOI which was the thread header.

Her wiki page states she's a Scientologist...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stacy_Francis#Personal_life

[Lstan]

I edited my previous message but put it back as you didnt see because i cant view images on here atm so could you give me a written description of the image you have posted or just give me a written response.

Her wiki page states she's a Scientologist...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stacy_Francis#Personal_life


I didnt ask if she was a scientologist tho, I asked how this means she NOI.

Tbh I have never heard of her but am curious to his hubbub around her.

But I appreciate a written reply at last :laugh:

Also **** my comp for playing up.

[kingston]

I edited my previous message but put it back as you didnt see because i cant view vids/images on here atm so could you give me a written description of the image you have posted or just give me a written response pls.

I didnt ask i she was a scientology tho, I asked about NOI.

Tbh I have never heard of her but am curious to his hubbub around her.

But I appreciate a written reply at last :laugh:

It's a screenshot of a tweet sent by Stacy to Kim Kardashian stating she had a message from Minister Farrakhan for her. She had reached out to Kris Jenner but was unsure if the message had been received...

As for whether she's a member of NOI or Scientology is really irrelevant as the two organizations are basically one in the same now... NOI is basically the African American arm of the Cult of Scientology... Louis Farrakahn has pushed members of NOI to undergo auditing and attain the state of "clear"... This isn't just a matter of borrowing ideals from Scientology... The Cult of Scientology is delivering Scientology services directly to members of NOI...

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[Lstan]

It's a screenshot of a tweet sent by Stacy to Kim Kardashian stating she had a message from Minister Farrakhan for her. She had reached out to Kris Jenner but was unsure if the message had been received...

As for whether she's a member of NOI or Scientology is really irrelevant as the two organizations are basically one in the same now... NOI is basically the African American arm of the Cult of Scientology... Louis Farrakahn has pushed members of NOI to undergo auditing attain the state of "clear"... This isn't just a matter of borrowing ideals from Scientology... The Cult of Scientology is delivering Scientology services directly to members of NOI...


Ok, but, one moment you are saying shes a member of NOI but now saying thats irrelevant? So which is it?
I know a little about scientology and about NOI history. NOI came before scientology and was more a political movement then a religious one, but it appears to have very significantly changed now. But am just curious as to how they are one and the same as from little I know scientology are pretty secretive and strict about its members especially about its members being part of other organisations. You have spoken at great length about Scientology but not NOI which was why I asked. Also its probably no coincidence so many american celebs are scientology members, I dont know if anyone outside USA is a member tho? Also now cannot watch the vids at all (bloody comp keeps playing up)

Also just wanted to compact my posts as to not clog up the thread :hee:

[kingston]

Ok, but, one moment you are saying shes a member of NOI but now saying thats irrelevant? So which is it?
I know a little about scientology and about NOI history. NOI came before scientology and was more a political movement then a religious one, but it appears to have very significantly changed now. But am just curious as to how they are one and the same as from little I know scientology are pretty secretive and strict about its members especially about its members being part of other organisations. You have spoken at great length about Scientology but not NOI which was why I asked. Also its probably no coincidence so many american celebs are scientology members, I dont know if anyone outside USA is a member tho? Also cannot watch the vids atm (bloody comp keeps playing up)

Also just wanted to compact my posts as to not clog up the thread :hee:

I've shared several videos that explain the connections between the two... But if those aren't sufficient enough for you type NOI + Scientology or Louis Farrakhan + Scientology in to Google... Read any of the articles there if you want to know more about how interconnected the two are...

[ebandit]

....stacy francis is great..............at whining..............

Mark L

[Nightraider]

Great posts Kingston, everything you've said is spot on.

In answer to the person saying Stacy doesn't hide her involvement with Scientology, she actually did and claimed she was a Christian until she got outed when she appeared on X-Factor. She was recognised by an ex-Scientologist who knew her from her appearance at a birthday part the cult hosted for Tom Cruise.

It was only last year she admitted publicly to being a Scientologist.

[kingston]

Great posts Kingston, everything you've said is spot on.

In answer to the person saying Stacy doesn't hide her involvement with Scientology, she actually did and claimed she was a Christian until she got outed when she appeared on X-Factor. She was recognised by an ex-Scientologist who knew her from her appearance at a birthday part the cult hosted for Tom Cruise.

It was only last year she admitted publicly to being a Scientologist.

I've done some further research and it appears she's both... It looks like she's only taken low level courses and hasn't reached the part (OTlll) where Hubbard tells you that these things were implanted when Xenu brainwashed our souls (thetan) millions of years ago... This might also have to do with her involvement in NOI as well... Which as I said earlier is now the African American arm of the cult...

Here's a quote from her FB that talks about meeting cult head David Miscavige...

This man is responsible for helping to change the lives of millions of people. He is the Chairman of The Board of the Church of Scientology. And I had the great fortune of talking to him on last Sunday. The Church and its members are incredible. We help millions of people around the world with various social betterment programs and a technology that will blow you away.

You can apply Scientology to your life no matter what religion that you are.

Now you are probably so confused if you have had the misfortune of reading the Internet or listening to others and not going into the Church for yourself. You are wondering how I am believer of Jesus Christ and I know about Scientology.

Well simply.. I worship Jesus Christ as the Lord of my life. And my IQ is higher because I have studied about basic tools in my life to help me communicate better, study better, manage my finances, be more ethical and have integrity, keep my word once given. All of these are courses you can study to apply what my Christian church mandates for me to do. I get the tools at the Church of Scientology. When my friends are on drugs or need help there is a detox program better than anything on the planet that gets that drug out of their system. We can pray all day but at the end of the day we have to also take responsibility and do a physical action to help God help us!!

I love this man. And I have met the most amazing people in my life in this Church.

I am a praise and worship leader and a minister of music in my own right. And I am a scientologist. For the past year especially I have taken my relationship with God to a whole other level. And I am grateful for the change within myself. Change is possible. No matter your age. No matter your sin.

If you need help
Inbox me

[kingston]

There will hopefully be an article coming out in one of the papers tomorrow about this...

[Bailey2Be]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_status_by_country


The Church of Scientology was not classified as a religious institution by the UK government until December 2013.[69][70] The Church's application for charity status in England and Wales was rejected in 1999,[71] and the Church has not exercised its right of appeal.[70] However, in 2000, the Church of Scientology was exempted from UK value added tax on the basis that it is a not-for-profit body.[72] The Ministry of Defence has confirmed that Scientology is "an officially recognised religion in the Royal Navy".[71] The UK Prison Service does not recognize Scientology as a religion, but prisoners who are registered as Scientologists may practice their religion and are given access to a representative of the Church of Scientology if they wish to receive its ministry.[70] In a December 2013 decision, the UK Supreme Court ruled unanimously that a London Church of Scientology chapel was a "place of meeting for religious worship" and should be registered as a place for marriage. This judgement endorsed the Australian High Court decision of 1983 "Of the various attempts made to describe the characteristics of religion, I find most helpful that of Wilson and Deane" [73] Under Scots law, Scientology ministers had been authorised to perform marriages in Scotland even prior to the December 2013 Supreme Court decision.[74]








Ok, but, one moment you are saying shes a member of NOI but now saying thats irrelevant? So which is it?
I know a little about scientology and about NOI history. NOI came before scientology and was more a political movement then a religious one, but it appears to have very significantly changed now. But am just curious as to how they are one and the same as from little I know scientology are pretty secretive and strict about its members especially about its members being part of other organisations. You have spoken at great length about Scientology but not NOI which was why I asked. Also its probably no coincidence so many american celebs are scientology members, I dont know if anyone outside USA is a member tho? Also now cannot watch the vids at all (bloody comp keeps playing up)

Also just wanted to compact my posts as to not clog up the thread :hee:

[Withano]

I don't presume every Christian on bb hates gays and stone women on the weekend. Because people pick and choose the aspects of the religion that they like and agree with. I'm gonna treat Stacy similarly. Innocent until proven guilty etc.

[MTVN]

I don't presume every Christian on bb hates gays and stone women on the weekend. Because people pick and choose the aspects of the religion that they like and agree with. I'm gonna treat Stacy similarly. Innocent until proven guilty etc.

Scientology is different though tbf. You either accept it all or reject it all - you don't get numerous different forms and interpretations of Scientology like you do with Christianity, Islam etc.

[Saph]

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[kingston]

I don't presume every Christian on bb hates gays and stone women on the weekend. Because people pick and choose the aspects of the religion that they like and agree with. I'm gonna treat Stacy similarly. Innocent until proven guilty etc.

Scientology is different though tbf. You either accept it all or reject it all - you don't get numerous different forms and interpretations of Scientology like you do with Christianity, Islam etc.

As MTVN stated and I posted earlier a specific Scientology docerine called "Keeping Scientology Working" means that you must blindly accept that Hubbard and Scientology have all the answers...

Here are two videos that will describe this doctrine in greater detail...

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[kingston]

More info on Scientology and why a vote for Stacy is a vote for Xenu and the abuses that go on in this organization...

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[arista]

lol this gives me Glory Dave and that fake disabled video teas from BB11 #throwback


Live on LBC

Gay OLD Steve Allen DJ
is attacking Stacey for being ANTI GAY


Please Note: There is nothing wrong with being Gay

[arista]

Scientology is different though tbf. You either accept it all or reject it all - you don't get numerous different forms and interpretations of Scientology like you do with Christianity, Islam etc.


You mean Pay the Feckers CASH
or NOT Pay The FECKERS CASH

[kingston]

Live on LBC

Gay OLD Steve Allen DJ
is attacking Stacey for being ANTI GAY


Please Note: There is nothing wrong with being Gay

Nice! I think she'd be a much more level headed person if she wasn't attached to these insane groups...

[kingston]

You mean Pay the Feckers CASH
or NOT Pay The FECKERS CASH

This is something that all Scientologists believe and practice...

ENEMY – SP Order. Fair game. May be deprived of property or injured by any means by any Scientologist without any discipline of the Scientologist. May be tricked, sued or lied to or destroyed.

http://suppressiveperson.org/2010/05/11/scientologys-suppressive-person-doctrine/

If you don't believe me here it is right from the mouth of their most high profile member... Remember that this isn't just Tom and Tom's opinion on the organization... This is 100% what EVERY single Scientologist believes...

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[arista]

Nice! I think she'd be a much more level headed person if she wasn't attached to these insane groups...

Yes I am Glad she was the First
Picked as Edited Out
she can sing
and be Anti Gay.


Perfect for Viacom/ Ch5HD / Endemol

[kingston]

she can sing
and be Anti Gay.


Not sure what you're getting at... Of course anyone can do anything and be anti-gay but that doesn't mean we should consider it acceptable...

[arista]

Not sure what you're getting at... Of course anyone can do anything and be anti-gay but that doesn't mean we should consider it acceptable...


I mean thats Her Own Atittude,
If you are gay - she does not like you.


Its in Todays UK papers
but Needs a Sun newspaper Front Page
as that sells more.


Yes if you are a Public Performer
and Anti Gay
then Everyone must hear that.
It needs to be brought up by Austin
talking to Stacey

[kingston]

I mean thats Her Own Atittude,
If you are gay - she does not like you.


Its in Todays UK papers
but Needs a Sun newspaper Front Page
as that sells more.


Yes if you are a Public Performer
and Anti Gay
then Everyone must hear that.
It needs to be brought up by Austin
talking to Stacey

I don't believe she should be given a platform to share her homophobic opinions and that she should be condemned every time they come out of her mouth...

[arista]

I don't believe she should be given a platform to share her homophobic opinions and that she should be condemned every time they come out of her mouth...


But hang on
On the UK Ch5HD show
she has not - so far.

[Lstan]

I've shared several videos that explain the connections between the two... But if those aren't sufficient enough for you type NOI + Scientology or Louis Farrakhan + Scientology in to Google... Read any of the articles there if you want to know more about how interconnected the two are...

I didnt say they were not sifficient i said i couldnt view them at the time twice because of my comp (for some reason this notebook doesnt like youtube, go figure) so unfortunately could not view your non-text posts and when i looked it up on google all i got were conspiracy sites (which, to be fair are also really interesting!!!) but am gonna try find some text posts on this topic because its all very interesting...well to me at least! :hee:


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_status_by_country


The Church of Scientology was not classified as a religious institution by the UK government until December 2013.[69][70] The Church's application for charity status in England and Wales was rejected in 1999,[71] and the Church has not exercised its right of appeal.[70] However, in 2000, the Church of Scientology was exempted from UK value added tax on the basis that it is a not-for-profit body.[72] The Ministry of Defence has confirmed that Scientology is "an officially recognised religion in the Royal Navy".[71] The UK Prison Service does not recognize Scientology as a religion, but prisoners who are registered as Scientologists may practice their religion and are given access to a representative of the Church of Scientology if they wish to receive its ministry.[70] In a December 2013 decision, the UK Supreme Court ruled unanimously that a London Church of Scientology chapel was a "place of meeting for religious worship" and should be registered as a place for marriage. This judgement endorsed the Australian High Court decision of 1983 "Of the various attempts made to describe the characteristics of religion, I find most helpful that of Wilson and Deane" [73] Under Scots law, Scientology ministers had been authorised to perform marriages in Scotland even prior to the December 2013 Supreme Court decision.[74]

Thank you for this info, thats very interesting, and a lil freaky.
I guess all the info i got about scientology were from those tv docs where its seems like a crackpot cult which is hiding some wierd secret...made me think of aliens for some reason lol. This stuff runs deeper than i realised now i see why people think they are illuminati.:o

[arista]

"all the info i got about scientology "


They ARE GANGSTERS
stay well away from any of them PUNKS

[kingston]

Here's a pic of Stacy and Louis Farrakhan at the Scientology Celebrity Centre in Hollywood... The guy behind them is a Scientologist named Alfreddie Johnson...

http://tonyortega.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/stacyfrancislouisfarrakhan.jpg

[MB.]

I think we get the message

[kingston]

I didnt say they were not sifficient i said i couldnt view them at the time twice because of my comp (for some reason this notebook doesnt like youtube, go figure) so unfortunately could not view your non-text posts and when i looked it up on google all i got were conspiracy sites (which, to be fair are also really interesting!!!) but am gonna try find some text posts on this topic because its all very interesting...well to me at least! :hee:




Thank you for this info, thats very interesting, and a lil freaky.
I guess all the info i got about scientology were from those tv docs where its seems like a crackpot cult which is hiding some wierd secret...made me think of aliens for some reason lol. This stuff runs deeper than i realised now i see why people think they are illuminati.:o

Here are a few articles from VERY reputable sources... With the NOI and Scientology you have to remember that everything in Scientology is heavily copyrighted and they adamantly defend these copyrights. This isn't just a matter of Louis Farrakhan waking up one day and deciding to adopt Scientology or Dianetic ideals in to his system of beliefs. That and the doctrine of KSW would not allow Scientology "tech" to be mismanaged. In fact Scientology calls anyone practicing Scientology outside of the organized church a "squirrel" and these people are often harassed and/or sued in to submission. So before NOI could even think about adopting Scientology teachings EVERYTHING would have had to be heavily negotiated and prices set and from what I understand is that Louis Farrakhan essentially sold NOI to Scientology.

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/scientology-and-the-nation-of-islam-a-heartwarming-independence-weekend-parable-6662224

Scientology and the Nation of Islam: A Heartwarming Independence Weekend Parable

There's nothing like the Fourth of July weekend to amp up our pursuit of happiness and help us reflect on what this country stands for: freedom, baby!

Of course, having our great freedoms of conscience and speech means that some folks are going to do some pretty freaky things with their time, money, and independence!

For example, we've been watching warily as members of the Nation of Islam are spending their spare time with e-meters, engrams, and the writings of L. Ron Hubbard.

Holy Doctrinal Mashup, Batman!

Over the last few years, Nation of Islam leader Minister Louis Farrakhan has been encouraging his members to read Hubbard's book Dianetics, and even to get enough training in Scientology to become auditors.

As quite a few have noted, Farrakhan and the so-white-he-glows Hubbard seem an extremely unlikely pairing. But then, both ascribe to pretty outlandish theories of where people come from (look it up, I'm not getting bogged down in that here), and both also are loonier than fruitcakes.

To take an example, we stumbled across this first-person testimonial by a man who calls himself Brother Jesse Muhammad, a member of Houston's Mosque No. 45.

In April, Brother Jesse described his introduction to, and training in Scientology at the website of Houston's major daily paper, the Houston Chronicle. (Um, really? Yes, really. Hard to imagine something similar at the website of the New York Times, I have to say.)

In "My First Experience with Scientology," Brother Jesse writes that just hearing that Farrakhan was encouraging members to look into Hubbard's writing was enough for him.

I have been a student under the leadership of Minister Farrakhan for sixteen years now, and he has yet to lead me astray. Whenever he has brought something to us it has always been of great benefit to us as individuals, our families, our entire NOI membership, our people and humanity. I had no doubt he had seen something valuable in Dianetics and I was eager to find out what it was!

Brother Jesse got himself a copy of Dianetics and devoured it eagerly. He couldn't help but notice that there was a lot of negative stuff about Scientology on the Internet but he didn't let it bother him. "As a member of the Nation of Islam, I'm used to that," he writes.

Also, he wasn't about to leave one faith for another:

I wasn't planning to leave the Nation of Islam and become a follower or worshipper of L. Ron Hubbard nor was I trying to become a "deep" scientologist. Rather, I was eager to learn something of value that may assist me in my development as a student in the classroom of Allah (God). I have read many books written by people with a mental "filtering system" in place that I may extract that which is of value.

Brother Jesse then learned how Scientology's auditing process works. It's a talking cure, and remarkably like the psychotherapy that Scientology demonizes, but hey, folks get stuff off their chests and tend to feel better. Hallelujah!

Brother Jesse writes that he was determined to qualify as an auditor and he did. It earned him a handshake from Farrakhan.

Janet Reitman, in her new book, Inside Scientology, writes that the late Isaac Hayes, a longtime Scientologist, had encouraged Scientology leader David Miscavige to lower the church's notoriously high prices in order to attract more African-American members. But was an influx of Nation of Islam members what Hayes had in mind?

Anyway, enjoy your beer and barbecue this weekend, and pursue your happiness in all the freaky ways you want. Some members of NOI certainly are!

tortega@villagevoice.com | @VoiceTonyO

http://tonyortega.org/2012/10/27/the-scientology-nation-of-islam-alliance-sideshow-or-armageddon/

The Scientology-Nation of Islam Alliance: Sideshow or Armageddon?

For several years now some of us in the press have been bringing up the strange relationship that has grown up between Scientology and the Nation of Islam. Most recently, Eliza Gray did a wonderful job looking at Louis Farrakhan’s embrace of L. Ron Hubbard in The New Republic.

It’s been fascinating to watch Farrakhan explain in videotaped lectures how he’s managed to fall under the spell of the whitest man who ever lived. And it’s true that he’s asked many of his followers to get trained in Dianetics and to get training as auditors. But on this Saturday, we’d like to open up the blog for discussion of a question we have about this strange relationship between such unusual groups.

For whatever reason, Farrakhan has decided to embrace the ideas in Hubbard’s books, and to make sure a large number of his followers get trained in order to benefit the Nation of Islam. But we wonder, is there really all that much cross-pollination going on in the other direction? What we mean is, are these NOI members actually becoming active members of the Church of Scientology and gaining positions of authority in it under David Miscavige?

Tell us what you think: is the Nation of Islam embrace of L. Ron Hubbard just a weird sideshow, or is Miscavige really allowing Scientology to tie its destiny to Farrakhan?

Also if you want to know more about Illuminati style tactics of Scientology read up on The Office of Special Affairs (OSA) which is basically the cults spying and espionage agency.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Special_Affairs

Garry Scarff has said that he used to be an OSA operative. He has made a number of statements about the inner workings of OSA, many of which are disputed by the Church. In a sworn deposition taken between July and August 1993 and submitted in Church of Scientology International vs. Steven Fishman and Uwe Geertz, Scarff testified, "...I was directed, one, to go to Chicago, Illinois and to murder Cynthia Kisser, Cynthia Kisser being the Executive Director of the Cult Awareness Network, by a staged car accident." Kisser was not killed, and Scarff said: "I could not bring myself to harm or kill anybody."

Tory Christman, a former volunteer for OSA has stated that the organization hired private investigators, fabricated criminal charges and harassed their targets, including at their place of employment, as well as their family members.

Bonnie Woods, a former member who began counselling people involved with Scientology and their families, became a target along with her husband in 1993 when the Church of Scientology started a leaflet operation denouncing her as a "hate campaigner" with demonstrators outside their home and around East Grinstead. She and her family were followed by a private investigator, and a creditor of theirs was located and provided free legal assistance to sue them into bankruptcy. After a long battle of libel suits, in 1999 the church agreed to issue an apology and pay £55,000 damages and £100,000 costs to the Woods.

Nancy Many was a high-level GO operative during Operation Freakout, and in a 2013 television interview for Dangerous Persuasions on the Discovery Channel, described intimate details of the operation to harass Paulette Cooper, including her own personal involvement. In the documentary she also explicitly confirmed the existence of "The Messianic Program", a GO interrogation program designed specifically to test the subjects reaction to the teaching that L. Ron Hubbard was "on level with Jesus and Buddha". This program was only ever administered to trusted GO agents by their superiors, and never to outside Scientologists, indicating its extremely classified nature.

Among the targets of OSA operations are Free Zone groups.

[kingston]

I think we get the message

Clearly not...

[Marsh.]

Fgs, GET A GRIP

[kingston]

Fgs, GET A GRIP

???

[Amy Jade]

kingston carry on. Im finding your posts very informative :clap1:

[Crimson Dynamo]

she comes across as a very uneducated woman so cults/religion will be attractive to her

[kingston]

kingston carry on. Im finding your posts very informative :clap1:

Thank you ;) Any questions don't hesitate to ask and I will do my best to find an answer...

[Crimson Dynamo]

kingston carry on. Im finding your posts very informative :clap1:

:clap1:

[kingston]

she comes across as a very uneducated woman so cults/religion will be attractive to her

Being involved in a destructive cult does not denote a lack of intelligence or education...

http://www.apologeticsindex.org/265-who-joins-cults-and-why

While we are at it, let’s shatter another myth: people who join cults are not stupid, weird, crazy, weak-willed, or neurotic. Most cult members are of above-average intelligence, well adjusted, adaptable, and perhaps a bit idealistic. In relatively few cases is there a history of a pre-existing mental disorder.

[kingston]

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[arista]

kingston carry on. Im finding your posts very informative :clap1:


Yes Wise Amy
Kingston speaks the Truth

[kingston]

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[sampvt]

Im loving all this shade from back storylines after most of those that complain continually say we should only judge people from what they do in the house. I haven't seen her being homophobic, has anyone or is this a bad case of sour grapes and double standards.