'One of the most over-rated actresses in Hollywood' TRUMP Monsters Streep

[Crimson Dynamo]

Trump fires back at Meryl Streep and calls her 'one of the most over-rated actresses in Hollywood' after she labels him a 'disrespectful bully' in searing Golden Globes speech

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Donald Trump is firing back at Meryl Streep after she very publicly criticized him in front of millions of people around the world at the Golden Globe Awards.

In an explosive six-minute speech on Sunday night, Streep did not hold back as she went after Trump for mocking disabled reporter Serge Kovaleski in November of 2015 during a campaign rally.

'That instinct to humiliate, when it's modeled by someone in a public platform, it filters down into everyone's life because it gives permission for others to do the same,' said Streep in front of a audience packed full of Hollywood A-listers.

'Disrespect invites disrespect, violence incites violence. When the powerful use their position to bully others we all lose.'

Trump responded to Streep's comments on Monday by taking aim at the actress on Twitter, writing: 'Meryl Streep, one of the most over-rated actresses in Hollywood, doesn't know me but attacked last night at the Golden Globes.'

He then added: 'She is a Hillary flunky who lost big.'

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King of battering the Hollywood snowflake elite who are STILL butthurt that their team did not win

[Nicky91]

okay, the Donald strikes again :clap1: :clap1:

[Niamh.]

I would certainly not call her over rated. She's a fantastic actress, I did think it was slightly hypocritical for her to in one breathe big up "immigrants" in Hollywood films by mentioning Ruth Negga an Ethiopian/Irish actress but then in the next dissing MMA who's biggest star is Irish :idc:

[Brother Leon]

I would certainly not call her over rated. She's a fantastic actress, I did think it was slightly hypocritical for her to in one breathe big up "immigrants" in Hollywood films by mentioning Ruth Negga an Ethiopian/Irish actress but then in the next dissing MMA who's biggest star is Irish :idc:

Yeah. The "you would be stuck with Football and MMA" like those are any less than acting or like they aren't full of amazing foreign talents. I like her a lot, but the whole night got boring with the Trump digs from everyone tbh. Instead of trying to insult the guy, look at the establishment and see why people were driven to vote for the guy in the first place.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I would certainly not call her over rated. She's a fantastic actress, I did think it was slightly hypocritical for her to in one breathe big up "immigrants" in Hollywood films by mentioning Ruth Negga an Ethiopian/Irish actress but then in the next dissing MMA who's biggest star is Irish :idc:

I know, its like saying MMA was trash

I lolled at her saying Hollywood was "crawling with immigrants"

nice use of words Meryll..

[Tom4784]

The President-Elect of the USA going on a twitter rant because an actress was critical about him....He's not going to last a year, he can't handle criticism and he'll have a meltdown. I like how he denies mocking that reporter when there's a video of him mocking his mannerisms, delusional as well as petty. Both AMAZING traits for a world leader to have...

[Niamh.]

The President-Elect of the USA going on a twitter rant because an actress was critical about him....He's not going to last a year, he can't handle criticism and he'll have a meltdown. I like how he denies mocking that reporter when there's a video of him mocking his mannerisms, delusional as well as petty. Both AMAZING traits for a world leader to have...

Yes that is a point, the new president is a key board warrior Oy Vey

[arista]

Yes LT
that Actress is using
Trump for everything.

And she BACKED Dumb Corrupt Clinton Women

[Tom4784]

Yes that is a point, the new president is a key board warrior Oy Vey

Worst thing about it is that, even if he does go (which he will) the US will be stuck with a bigoted VP as president who, unlike Trump, will likely be competent when it comes to putting his bigotry into action.

It's a rock and a hard place type situation.

[MB.]

What a ****ing baby the next President of the United States is

[Nicky91]

What a ****ing baby the next President of the United States is

no he isn't, he's just telling the truth :D

[MB.]

no he isn't, he's just telling the truth :D

He's truthful in that he can't even handle what some actress thinks of him without getting into a rage on Twitter, let alone run a country, yes

I'm beginning to miss your lighter days, Nicky, when all you'd do was imply somebody was faking a heart attack for airtime

[MB.]

Ah, it'll be a fun four years when nobody in the public eye can criticise or say anything remotely negative about their leader without him calling them 'overrated' on Twitter (see also: the cast of Hamilton, a musical he had previously professed to enjoying. Funny that)

It's almost as if he has bigger problems and responsibilities he should be getting on with instead :think:

[Rob!]

Yes what he did when imitating that reporter wasn't mocking st all. All the handshaking and stupid voice was just a twitch he happened to have at the time.

I will never understand why that wasn't the end of it there and then.

[Withano]

Keyword being after

After she called him names

Trump is literally the living embodiment of 'I know you are but what am I'

[Rob!]

Keyword being after

After she called him names

Trump is literally the living embodiment of 'I know you are but what am I'

He's a ****ing child. Responding to any criticism he gets on Twitter like it actually means anything. His supporters must be absolutely blind

[DemolitionRed]

Unlike the Bellend Trump, Meryl Streep is using her platform and wealth to try and do some good.

Spooky how predictable it is for a person with NPD to react to criticism :hehe:

[Tom4784]

He's a ****ing child. Responding to any criticism he gets on Twitter like it actually means anything. His supporters must be absolutely blind

They only care about his stance against Immigration and Islam, they'll forgive everything else as long as he makes a comment about mexicans every once in a while.

[Lostie!]

no he isn't, he's just telling the truth :D

If he was telling the truth he'd start by admitting he did indeed mock a disabled man. The proof is there and denied by only fantasists and morons.

[Suze]

Regardless of whatever else tit for tat was said, she is an 'overrated actress', she is just an average actress who was lucky in a lot of her film choices and co-stars imho.

[the truth]

What a ****ing baby the next President of the United States is

streep is the baby and all the sexist man hating killary fans who cant accept the democratic election result, she is is a very boring over rated actress

[Mitchell]

He's truthful in that he can't even handle what some actress thinks of him without getting into a rage on Twitter, let alone run a country, yes

I'm beginning to miss your lighter days, Nicky, when all you'd do was imply somebody was faking a heart attack for airtime

:joker:

[user104658]

The President-Elect of the USA going on a twitter rant because an actress was critical about him....He's not going to last a year, he can't handle criticism and he'll have a meltdown. I like how he denies mocking that reporter when there's a video of him mocking his mannerisms, delusional as well as petty. Both AMAZING traits for a world leader to have...

Yes that is a point, the new president is a key board warrior Oy Vey

What a ****ing baby the next President of the United States is

Exactly. It's actually pretty scary. He was also trolling Schwarzenegger about the ratings for the latest series of The Apprentice compared to when he fronted it. He's been elected president of the most powerful country in the world. It's utterly ****ed.

[Marsh.]

The President of the United States of America everybody. :umm2:

Well done America. :umm2:

[Marsh.]

streep is the baby and all the sexist man hating killary fans who cant accept the democratic election result, she is is a very boring over rated actress

Yet you would think he'd have more important things to be getting on with right now.

If anything, his little childish tantrum only proved Streep right.

[DemolitionRed]

streep is the baby and all the sexist man hating killary fans who cant accept the democratic election result, she is is a very boring over rated actress


So if we don't like Trump we are sexist man haters? How does that work if you're a guy who doesn't like Trump? :smug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Whenever that jumped up luvvie Ellen degenerate tweets support about something you know it's bollocks

And... Yes she did...

Lol

[Tom4784]

So if we don't like Trump we are sexist man haters? How does that work if you're a guy who doesn't like Trump? :smug:

EVIL MISANDRIST SCUM :fist:

[jaxie]

Well to be fair everyone has actors and actresses they like and dislike. :shrug:

I think Meryl is a little overrated myself.

[Niamh.]

Well to be fair everyone has actors and actresses they like and dislike. :shrug:

I think Meryl is a little overrated myself.

I wonder did his dislike occur before or after she was a Hilary supporter though :p

[Black Dagger]

It's absolutely hysterical how ****ing thin skinned he is. Grow up Donald.

[Marsh.]

Well to be fair everyone has actors and actresses they like and dislike. :shrug:

I think Meryl is a little overrated myself.

Yeah, nothing to do with what she said on national television. :nono:

I suppose he was just watching Sophie's Choice and felt the need to let rip on twitter. :fan:

[Tom4784]

Yeah, nothing to do with what she said on national television. :nono:

I suppose he was just watching Sophie's Choice and felt the need to let rip on twitter. :fan:

He's probably an Eva stan.

[Pete.]

I question the nerve of Trump and his fans who are trying to antagonise Meryl when she is perfectly entitled to criticise him for his foul behaviour. By the reaction of some (not least the President himself) makes it out to be like she slagged off MLK or something (she didn't even use Trump's name yet the person in the most diplomatic position in the world is slagging her off left right and centre). Classy Meryl wins this one

[arista]

I question the nerve of Trump and his fans who are trying to antagonise Meryl when she is perfectly entitled to criticise him for his foul behaviour. By the reaction of some (not least the President himself) makes it out to be like she slagged off MLK or something (she didn't even use Trump'a name yet the person in the most diplomatic position in the world is slagging her off left right and centre). Classy Meryl wins this one


BOLLOCKS


That Bitch Actress Started all this

Loads watching her did not like what she DID


She Backed LOSER CLINTON WOMAN




LT
Some on this thread
Just Do Not Get It!

[DemolitionRed]

I question the nerve of Trump and his fans who are trying to antagonise Meryl when she is perfectly entitled to criticise him for his foul behaviour. By the reaction of some (not least the President himself) makes it out to be like she slagged off MLK or something (she didn't even use Trump'a name yet the person in the most diplomatic position in the world is slagging her off left right and centre). Classy Meryl wins this one

Yay
Meryl 1
Trump 0

[Pete.]

She Backed LOSER CLINTON WOMAN

Backing the popular vote winner?

[Brooklyn]

Bet all those Reagan worshipers on the right absolutely hate it when a celebrity talks politics, yeah?

The worst part about this is that it wasn't an if, but when, he'd tweet this garbage out.

[DemolitionRed]

BOLLOCKS


That Bitch Actress Started all this

Loads watching her did not like what she DID


She Backed LOSER CLINTON WOMAN




LT
Some on this thread
Just Do Not Get It!

Oh we get it okay. At least we get what it is you love about Trump.

[Jamie89]

He's obviously never seen 'Death Becomes Her', surely that's grounds for impeachment?

He's probably an Eva stan.

:laugh2:

That Bitch Actress Started all this

I think it was him mocking the disabled that started it (along with everything else he's said and done)... but even if she did 'start it', what kind of playground mentality is that for the soon to be President?

[jaxie]

Yeah, nothing to do with what she said on national television. :nono:

I suppose he was just watching Sophie's Choice and felt the need to let rip on twitter. :fan:

Well look at all of us in the CBB forum. :shrug:

[Amy Jade]

BOLLOCKS


That Bitch Actress Started all this

Loads watching her did not like what she DID


She Backed LOSER CLINTON WOMAN




LT
Some on this thread
Just Do Not Get It!

His mocking of a disabled person started this.

[Brother Leon]

Spot the Trump supporters :laugh:

https://cdn.ampproject.org/ii/w680/www.thewrap.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Gibson-Vaughn-618x400.png

[Crimson Dynamo]

In one corner we have a woman who reads lines written by someone else

In the other a man serving his country taking on the hardest job in the world


Go figure

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Is he actually going to run the country or spend his time behind a computer twittering if anyone says anything bad about him until he is assassinated/4 years up and he loses (You decide)?

[Patricia4]

okay, the Donald strikes again :clap1: :clap1:

:banana::clap1:

[Crimson Dynamo]

He can do what he likes. Good too see him across the media unlike Corbn

[DrunkerThanMoses]

He can do what he likes. Good too see him across the media unlike Corbn

He was elected to run a country, not sit on his arse trolling twitter every second of the day.

[Black Dagger]

In one corner we have a woman who reads lines written by someone else

In the other a man serving his country taking on the hardest job in the world


Go figure

If he's going to take on the hardest job in the world, he should stop getting pissy over every little comment said against him and get off Twitter and do something worthwhile.

But lol yes, carry on attacking another profession to suit your agenda.

[Marsh.]

Well look at all of us in the CBB forum. :shrug:

What's that got to do with anything? None of us are running a whole country and CBB holds no importance to anything. :joker:

The PRESIDENT OF THE US, one of the most powerful leaders in the world throwing his toys out of the pram when a celebrity doesn't like him? You don't see the problem with that?

[Marsh.]

He's probably an Eva stan.

:joker:

[arista]

His mocking of a disabled person started this.


Trump says he was showing the crowd
what he was like, At that time.



Its History now
Trust the OLD actress who ONLY Supports Loser Clinton


To cry.


SHE CAN FECK OFF

[Crimson Dynamo]

He was elected to run a country, not sit on his arse trolling twitter every second of the day.

He isn't. It's 3 tweets and the pathetic movie luvvie elite needed a smack down

And by God they got it

POW

[Amy Jade]

In one corner we have a woman who reads lines written by someone else

In the other a man serving his country taking on the hardest job in the world


Go figure

The big defference is the woman who just reads lines as you put it does it incredibly well and is critically acclaimed.

The man who is set to serve his country is a sexist mess of a man eho thinks making fun of disabled people and grabbing women wether they like it or not is acceptable.

[Amy Jade]

Trump says he was showing the crowd
what he was like, At that time.



Its History now
Trust the OLD actress who ONLY Supports Loser Clinton


To cry.


SHE CAN FECK OFF

Donald Trump is older than Meryl :laugh:

[Jack_]

'luvvie', 'snowflake', 'triggered', 'SJW'

LT just so you know, this isn't the Mail Online comments section or the dark depths of Twitter. Petition to have them added to the filter? We're nine days into 2017 and I'm already bored of hearing them

[Marsh.]

He isn't. It's 3 tweets and the pathetic movie luvvie elite needed a smack down

And by God they got it

POW

Yes the movie makers are the elite. Hmm, sure jan.

[Marsh.]

Trump says he was showing the crowd
what he was like, At that time.



Its History now
Trust the OLD actress who ONLY Supports Loser Clinton


To cry.


SHE CAN FECK OFF

Old?

No mention of Trump's age and the fact he's older than her?

Same old sexism. Shame on you arista.

[y.winter]

He's a joke. Good luck to the Americans for making it to the apprentice, you're all fired.

[Northern Monkey]

Well if she's gonna run her mouth about people on telly she should be ready for the consequences.He should get the FBI onto her:laugh:

[Marsh.]

Well if she's gonna run her mouth about people telly she should be ready for the consequences.He should get the FBI onto her:laugh:

The President "dragging" her on twitter. She's quaking in her boots.

[arista]

Old?

No mention of Trump's age and the fact he's older than her?

Same old sexism. Shame on you arista.



Trump is a Fella



Its So much HARDER for women


Not My Fault.

[arista]

Donald Trump is older than Meryl :laugh:


That Does Not matter Amy
he is a Fella.

[Kazanne]

I do think these 'stars ' should stick to acting and leave politics alone,especially at award ceremonies,it's like they are craving attention,I do think people will be surprised at him when he is President,I like that he not arse licking every celeb who he comes across,i do think he will tell the US the truth whether it's good or bad , unlike all the lying that has taken place in previous years,I don't know too much about him, but I do know he seems to love America and hope that he sets out to make it great again.

[Amy Jade]

That Does Not matter Amy
he is a Fella.

Yet she's still in high demand and a highly succesful actress :laugh:

[Marsh.]

Trump is a Fella



Its So much HARDER for women


Not My Fault.

It's not your fault that you just put her down for her age but didn't do the same for Trump?

Your comments and your attitude is most certainly your fault.

It's harder because people like you unnecessarily make it harder for no reason.

[Marsh.]

That Does Not matter Amy
he is a Fella.

:facepalm:

[Niamh.]

I do think these 'stars ' should stick to acting and leave politics alone,especially at award ceremonies,it's like they are craving attention,I do think people will be surprised at him when he is President,I like that he not arse licking every celeb who he comes across,i do think he will tell the US the truth whether it's good or bad , unlike all the lying that has taken place in previous years,I don't know too much about him, but I do know he seems to love America and hope that he sets out to make it great again.
Tell that to Arnie and Ronald, hey isnt old Donald a TV star himself?

[arista]

Yet she's still in high demand and a highly succesful actress :laugh:


For Sure Amy




But she is Still
a 100% Clinton Women BACKER

[Brooklyn]

Art is inherently political. Artists are political.

Trump is just pissed that the only actor who likes him is a Happy Days reject.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

I would certainly not call her over rated. She's a fantastic actress, I did think it was slightly hypocritical for her to in one breathe big up "immigrants" in Hollywood films by mentioning Ruth Negga an Ethiopian/Irish actress but then in the next dissing MMA who's biggest star is Irish :idc:

Yeah and there's the whole ''we're all Africans, really'' and ''i'd rather be a rebel than a slave'' and she clapped from Roman Polanski so yeah but still, Trump did mock a disabled man.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

I do think these 'stars ' should stick to acting and leave politics alone,especially at award ceremonies,it's like they are craving attention,I do think people will be surprised at him when he is President,I like that he not arse licking every celeb who he comes across,i do think he will tell the US the truth whether it's good or bad , unlike all the lying that has taken place in previous years,I don't know too much about him, but I do know he seems to love America and hope that he sets out to make it great again.

That's unfair though it's like saying those shop workers, and every day civilians should stickto their jobs and leave politics alone. Their jobs aside, politics affect them too. They're allowed their say. We do it on social media/internet.

Is it true Rebecca Ferguson agreed to sing at Donald Trump's inauguration only if she can sing a song that's about black struggle? How random :joker:

[Niamh.]

Yeah and there's the whole ''we're all Africans, really'' and ''i'd rather be a rebel than a slave'' and she clapped from Roman Polanski so yeah but still, Trump did mock a disabled man.
Makes me sick how that paedophile is still highly regarded and respected in Hollywood

[Tom4784]

I do think these 'stars ' should stick to acting and leave politics alone,especially at award ceremonies,it's like they are craving attention,I do think people will be surprised at him when he is President,I like that he not arse licking every celeb who he comes across,i do think he will tell the US the truth whether it's good or bad , unlike all the lying that has taken place in previous years,I don't know too much about him, but I do know he seems to love America and hope that he sets out to make it great again.

Why shouldn't they talk about politics? They are as entitled to do so as you or I.

The problem here is that the PRESIDENT-ELECT of the US is a Twitter Troll, raging like a teenager on the internet because he isn't universally loved. Do you not see how Trump, with his overwhelming pettiness and out of control temper, is a problem? This is a man who will soon have access to the biggest supply of Nukes in the world....

He wants to make America great again by scapegoating anyone who isn't white, male or straight. It's not something to be happy about.

[Amy Jade]

For Sure Amy




But she is Still
a 100% Clinton Women BACKER

So? that doesnt change the fact shes one of the most celebrated and succesful actresses ever. She may be in her 60's but she's still earning high praise and awards year in year out.

[DemolitionRed]

He can do what he likes. Good too see him across the media unlike Corbn

Wow, that bitter tone sounds suspiciously like Trump.

[Jake.]

Soon to be President uses Twitter as a platform to mock a celebrity he doesn't like? Erm, yeah, he really is winning isn't he

[Shaun]

Someone's pressed his cameo in Home Alone 2 was largely ignored

[Marsh.]

Someone's pressed his cameo in Home Alone 2 was largely ignored

:joker: :joker: :joker:

[the truth]

I do think these 'stars ' should stick to acting and leave politics alone,especially at award ceremonies,it's like they are craving attention,I do think people will be surprised at him when he is President,I like that he not arse licking every celeb who he comes across,i do think he will tell the US the truth whether it's good or bad , unlike all the lying that has taken place in previous years,I don't know too much about him, but I do know he seems to love America and hope that he sets out to make it great again.

exactly:wavey:

[Rob!]

In one corner we have a woman who reads lines written by someone else

In the other a man serving his country taking on the hardest job in the world


Go figure

There's many things wrong with this argument but I'll start with whether you genuinely believe that's Trump writes a single word of any speech he'll ever make as president?

[Jamie89]

There's many things wrong with this argument but I'll start with whether you genuinely believe that's Trump writes a single word of any speech he'll ever make as president?

Here for his presidential speeches being 140 characters or less

[Marsh.]

Here for his presidential speeches being 140 characters or less

:joker:

[Rob!]

Here for his presidential speeches being 140 characters or less

:joker:

[Brooklyn]

818586160523943936

:hehe:

[Tom4784]

Here for his presidential speeches being 140 characters or less

And consists entirely of slating female celebrities that don't like him.

[Lostie!]

818586160523943936

:hehe:

:laugh2:

[Tom4784]

818586160523943936

:hehe:

Drag IT.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I do think these 'stars ' should stick to acting and leave politics alone,especially at award ceremonies,it's like they are craving attention,I do think people will be surprised at him when he is President,I like that he not arse licking every celeb who he comes across,i do think he will tell the US the truth whether it's good or bad , unlike all the lying that has taken place in previous years,I don't know too much about him, but I do know he seems to love America and hope that he sets out to make it great again.

Classic common sense :clap1:

[Rob!]

I do think these 'stars ' should stick to acting and leave politics alone,especially at award ceremonies,it's like they are craving attention,I do think people will be surprised at him when he is President,I like that he not arse licking every celeb who he comes across,i do think he will tell the US the truth whether it's good or bad , unlike all the lying that has taken place in previous years,I don't know too much about him, but I do know he seems to love America and hope that he sets out to make it great again.

Except when America is about to be led by a homophobic, racist and sexist man who openly mocks people with disabilities, do you not think that people who are categorised in the increasingly and worryingly long list that he encourages discrimination against deserve to hear that not everybody hates them by someone else who's in the public eye?

[arista]

"Except when America is about to be led by a homophobic, racist and sexist man"

No Rob
he is now President Elect
What let up to that
is for Comedy Shows in USA.

[Rob!]

"Except when America is about to be led by a homophobic, racist and sexist man"

No Rob
he is now President Elect
What let up to that
is for Comedy Shows in USA.

Huh?

[the truth]

Except when America is about to be led by a homophobic, racist and sexist man who openly mocks people with disabilities, do you not think that people who are categorised in the increasingly and worryingly long list that he encourages discrimination against deserve to hear that not everybody hates them by someone else who's in the public eye?

hes none of those things, what you need to worry about is hollywood and western society is truth phobic and the truth ultimately is something you can never run away from

[arista]

Huh?

For Example if you say he is Racist


http://ilovemyfreedom.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/carsonposing.jpg
What the Feck is Black Man Ben Carson
doing in his team.
Under your Crap, Rob - he is racist????

Rob - Get Up To date
or Get out of Trumps Way

[Rob!]

If you think the only definition of racist is being predjudiced against black people then we really don't have a lot of leeway for this discussion

[Rob!]

hes none of those things, what you need to worry about is hollywood and western society is truth phobic and the truth ultimately is something you can never run away from

He's none of these things? Did you watch the same election campaign as everybody else?

[arista]

If you think the only definition of racist is being predjudiced against black people then we really don't have a lot of leeway for this discussion

So Answer
WHY is
Dr. Ben Carson a BLACK MAN
in his team
FACT.



Rob - Get updated
Do not hang on to YOUR past



Sign Of The Times

[Rob!]

So Answer
WHY is
Dr. Ben Carson a BLACK MAN
in his team
FACT.



Rob - Get updated
Do not hang on to YOUR past



Sign Of The Times


What are you on about you Dalek?

Try rereading what I said

[Niamh.]

818586160523943936

:hehe:

:laugh2:

[DemolitionRed]

I just worry about what this narcissist will do in a full blown ego hissy fit… Narcissists can’t stop themselves when their actual self image as opposed to the image that only exists in their mind is presented to them full force by another.

[arista]

What are you on about you Dalek?

Try rereading what I said


You are at fault

You Ignore the FACTS

[arista]

For Example if you say he is Racist


http://ilovemyfreedom.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/carsonposing.jpg
What the Feck is Black Man Ben Carson
doing in his team.
Under your Crap, Rob - he is racist????

Rob - Get Up To date
or Get out of Trumps Way


Re Posted - JUST FOR ROB

[Niamh.]

UFCs response to Meryls comments :

FYI: We're proud to say our champs represent 5 different countries
and all are from very diverse backgrounds https://www.facebook.com/images/emoji.php/v6/f55/1.5/16/1f44d.png
http://i.imgur.com/Ob2qvVb.jpg?1

[DemolitionRed]

For Example if you say he is Racist

What the Feck is Black Man Ben Carson
doing in his team.
Under your Crap, Rob - he is racist????

Rob - Get Up To date
or Get out of Trumps Way

This is about as ridiculous as it gets :shrug:

Trumps prejudices aren’t about skin colour. He’s a cultural racist which has nothing to do with skin colour and all to do with customs and culture. People who are islamophobic for example are cultural racists because they believe Western culture is superior to Islamic culture. If you listen to people on here ranting tediously on about the civilized versus the uncivilized, then its clear to those of us who are not culturally racist that such people support those who represent oppression.

Racism, which is a highly confusing word, is, thanks to people like Trump, very much alive and well. It is much more than the black-white dichotomy.

[arista]

"He’s a cultural racist"


Bollocks DR
he is against Extreme Muslims killers
and Illegals



He is President in a week or so
Get over it.



Sorry to say this to you DR
but please get Updated on President Trump

[the truth]

This is about as ridiculous as it gets :shrug:

Trumps prejudices aren’t about skin colour. He’s a cultural racist which has nothing to do with skin colour and all to do with customs and culture. People who are islamophobic for example are cultural racists because they believe Western culture is superior to Islamic culture. If you listen to people on here ranting tediously on about the civilized versus the uncivilized, then its clear to those of us who are not culturally racist that such people support those who represent oppression.

Racism, which is a highly confusing word, is, thanks to people like Trump, very much alive and well. It is much more than the black-white dichotomy.

Well thats the most ridiculous comment Ive ever heard. Its now racist to believe Christian values or western values and laws are superior to some islamic / sharia law? Absolutely unbelievable. So we are not allowed to make moral choices or decisions anymore? not allowed to have our own values and beliefs because if they contradict radical islam we are racist? am I racist because I think stoning people is barbaric? Thats the kind of absolute nonsense that got us into this liberal mess. If you stand for nothing youll fall for anything

[Black Dagger]

"That's the most ridiculous comment I've ever heard"

Says the one that thinks straight white males are the most ostracized demographic in society.

[DemolitionRed]

Well thats the most ridiculous comment Ive ever heard. Its now racist to believe Christian values or western values and laws are superior to some islamic / sharia law? Absolutely unbelievable. So we are not allowed to make moral choices or decisions anymore? not allowed to have our own values and beliefs because if they contradict radical islam we are racist? am I racist because I think stoning people is barbaric? Thats the kind of absolute nonsense that got us into this liberal mess. If you stand for nothing youll fall for anything

You forgot to add such people support those who represent oppression and obviously that bit is very important. You can dislike the way Muslim women are treated and you can even believe you are from a more superior culture but the moment you start supporting those who want to oppress an entire culture, you cross the line and become a cultural racist.

I see cultural racists on here all the time. They are the first to get offended if you use the word 'Islamophobic' and the first to accuse others of being anti Semite if they dare to speak out against Zionism :facepalm:

[DemolitionRed]

"He’s a cultural racist"


Bollocks DR
he is against Extreme Muslims killers
and Illegals



He is President in a week or so
Get over it.



Sorry to say this to you DR
but please get Updated on President Trump

First of all, get over what exactly? He's not my president because I'm not American. Is he your president? are you American? if not, whats this big deal with Trump all about?

[the truth]

You forgot to add such people support those who represent oppression and obviously that bit is very important. You can dislike the way Muslim women are treated and you can even believe you are from a more superior culture but the moment you start supporting those who want to oppress an entire culture, you cross the line and become a cultural racist.

I see cultural racists on here all the time. They are the first to get offended if you use the word 'Islamophobic' and the first to accuse others of being anti Semite if they dare to speak out against Zionism :facepalm:

Thats not what was said in the message I responded too

[Crimson Dynamo]

UFCs response to Meryls comments :

FYI: We're proud to say our champs represent 5 different countries
and all are from very diverse backgrounds https://www.facebook.com/images/emoji.php/v6/f55/1.5/16/1f44d.png
http://i.imgur.com/Ob2qvVb.jpg?1

:clap1:

[Crimson Dynamo]

There's many things wrong with this argument but I'll start with whether you genuinely believe that's Trump writes a single word of any speech he'll ever make as president?

how can he write with his tiny hands

:oh:

[Niamh.]

how can he write with his tiny hands

:oh:

:laugh2:

Coach Kavanagh (Conor McGregors coach) has also weighed in :

“A lot has been made of Meryl Streep’s ‘calling out’ of Mixed Martial Arts as not being ‘the arts’. She’s 100% right, it’s sport. I was just impressed she said mixed martial arts and not ‘cage fighting’. People probably got a little defensive with the way she was clearly saying ‘the arts’ were so much superior to ‘sport’. What would we ever do without Hollywood!!? The great American writer Joseph Campbell said the closest he ever came to a truly spiritual experience was through athletics. I wouldn’t like to think of one activity better than the other – sport or art. Just do whatever you enjoy.

“I think people’s main issue with her teary well acted speech was that she tried to pass herself, and the rest of her ultra rich and ultra entitled liberal friends, off as ‘an outsider’. Yes Meryl, you’re just like an illegal immigrant or starving refugee. ***** off. Just carry on adding to your 100s of millions you’ve earned from playing pretend. You’ve known nothing but extreme wealth and privilege your whole life, so don’t look down your nose at sport which has probably helped a lot more people than the expensive drama schools you attended.

“Happy Tuesday haha!”

[Crimson Dynamo]

:laugh2:

Coach Kavanagh (Conor McGregors coach) has also weighed in :

“A lot has been made of Meryl Streep’s ‘calling out’ of Mixed Martial Arts as not being ‘the arts’. She’s 100% right, it’s sport. I was just impressed she said mixed martial arts and not ‘cage fighting’. People probably got a little defensive with the way she was clearly saying ‘the arts’ were so much superior to ‘sport’. What would we ever do without Hollywood!!? The great American writer Joseph Campbell said the closest he ever came to a truly spiritual experience was through athletics. I wouldn’t like to think of one activity better than the other – sport or art. Just do whatever you enjoy.

“I think people’s main issue with her teary well acted speech was that she tried to pass herself, and the rest of her ultra rich and ultra entitled liberal friends, off as ‘an outsider’. Yes Meryl, you’re just like an illegal immigrant or starving refugee. ***** off. Just carry on adding to your 100s of millions you’ve earned from playing pretend. You’ve known nothing but extreme wealth and privilege your whole life, so don’t look down your nose at sport which has probably helped a lot more people than the expensive drama schools you attended.

“Happy Tuesday haha!”

BOOM

[Lostie!]

For Example if you say he is Racist


http://ilovemyfreedom.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/carsonposing.jpg
What the Feck is Black Man Ben Carson
doing in his team.
Under your Crap, Rob - he is racist????

Rob - Get Up To date
or Get out of Trumps Way

:facepalm:

[arista]

First of all, get over what exactly? He's not my president because I'm not American. Is he your president? are you American? if not, whats this big deal with Trump all about?


As I have worked in America
and have Family there
The New American President is good news
for many.


I have told you before I am British

[Northern Monkey]

:laugh2:

Coach Kavanagh (Conor McGregors coach) has also weighed in :

“A lot has been made of Meryl Streep’s ‘calling out’ of Mixed Martial Arts as not being ‘the arts’. She’s 100% right, it’s sport. I was just impressed she said mixed martial arts and not ‘cage fighting’. People probably got a little defensive with the way she was clearly saying ‘the arts’ were so much superior to ‘sport’. What would we ever do without Hollywood!!? The great American writer Joseph Campbell said the closest he ever came to a truly spiritual experience was through athletics. I wouldn’t like to think of one activity better than the other – sport or art. Just do whatever you enjoy.

“I think people’s main issue with her teary well acted speech was that she tried to pass herself, and the rest of her ultra rich and ultra entitled liberal friends, off as ‘an outsider’. Yes Meryl, you’re just like an illegal immigrant or starving refugee. ***** off. Just carry on adding to your 100s of millions you’ve earned from playing pretend. You’ve known nothing but extreme wealth and privilege your whole life, so don’t look down your nose at sport which has probably helped a lot more people than the expensive drama schools you attended.

“Happy Tuesday haha!”He f'ked that bitch up:clap1:

[the truth]

He f'ked that bitch up:clap1:

he did , shes a sexist elitist smug man hater

[Amy Jade]

He said Meryl Streep and Julia Roberts were his favourite actresses according to twitter. Not Trump being proved a liar yer again!

[Crimson Dynamo]

He said Meryl Streep and Julia Roberts were his favourite actresses according to twitter. Not Trump being proved a liar yer again!

bold

[Niamh.]

bold

Suddenly she's overrated and not a good actress since she didn't support his campaign :hehe:

[Jamie89]

bold

Yes, he had a sudden critical epiphany right about the same time she criticized him for mocking a disabled man :think:

[Livia]

Nothing surprises me now. Since he ridiculed his own security services with their Putin warning, and there's old Trump, thinking he has some kind of "special relationship" with Putin.... apparently trusts Putin more than his own security services.... nothing surprises me anymore.

At least Trump's election has settled the question of where we'll live after we get married... and it won't be Texas, not while Trump's in charge.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes, he had a sudden critical epiphany right about the same time she criticized him for mocking a disabled man :think:

well she was acting badly during that acceptance speech

:think:

[Gusto Brunt]

I always find any attempt by a celeb/actor to make a 'witty' dig at a politician or government policy is doomed to fail.

Ms Streep and the other guy, the actor bloke from the UK who was in House. His name escapes me. Him. Embarrassed themselves.

In my opinion.

[Tom4784]

You can always tell when someone hits the target right on the mark because of the lengths the opposition will go to discredit it.

Donald Trump DID make fun of a disabled person on a Rally stage surrounded by cameras, he has mocked families of dead soldiers and has spoken ill about prisoners of War. He lead a campaign to rile up the bigots and the easily led against a vulnerable demographic that isn't to blame for America's woes and in the process he's only consolidated those issues by gathering a cabinet of 1%ers and bigots.

His actions SINCE becoming President-Elect is worrisome, he's already lied about the mount of jobs that he has brought back to America and he's shown a dangerous disregard for Freedom of the Press and his chief concern seems to be crying on Twitter over the fact that not everyone likes him.

Obama once described Sarah Palin as a pig in a wig and it makes me sad that America has decided to elect one as it's president.

[Amy Jade]

What makes me laugh most is people who support Trump seem to think an actress should not make any comments in reguards to politics...yet Trump is a reality star. :laugh:

[Marsh.]

What makes me laugh most is people who support Trump seem to think an actress should not make any comments in reguards to politics...yet Trump is a reality star. [emoji23]
This.
Streep is giving her opinion as every person on the planet us permitted.

She's not put herself forward for one of, if not the most powerful, positions in the world and couldn't run a bath. It's so laughable it couldn't be made up.

[Crimson Dynamo]

This.
Streep is giving her opinion as every person on the planet us permitted.

She's not put herself forward for one of, if not the most powerful, positions in the world and couldn't run a bath. It's so laughable it couldn't be made up.

anyone can point out problems

its the brave and the good that solve them

[Tom4784]

anyone can point out problems

its the brave and the good that solve them

And Donald Trump is neither given how he mocks the disabled and uses minorities as scapegoats instead of confronting issues head on,

[Marsh.]

anyone can point out problems

its the brave and the good that solve them
Yeah we'll see how many he solves.

"Build a wall" ok lad.

[Adamw92]

Can't believe this is a man about to run one of the biggest countries in the world. I've seen children acting more mature than him. Once again, well done America. :clap1: :laugh2:

[Crimson Dynamo]

And Donald Trump is neither given how he mocks the disabled and uses minorities as scapegoats instead of confronting issues head on,

so far he has brought thousands of jobs in

all this was said about Reagan, you are too young to remember

turned out he was pretty good

[Tom4784]

so far he has brought thousands of jobs in

all this was said about Reagan, you are too young to remember

turned out he was pretty good

He said he brought a thousand jobs back to the US through a deal with Carrier but most of those jobs he 'saved' were never going to be moved to Mexico in the first place, at best he saved a few hundred jobs and that miniscule achievement has been overridden by the fact he lied about the numbers.

As for your point about Reagan....

Classic common sense :clap1:

This is a post you made agreeing with what Kazanne was saying about actors staying out of political issues...You are aware that Reagan was a Hollywood actor, are you not? Perhaps you should do some reading up on him before you patronise people.

The difference between Reagan and Trump is that Reagan was actually a competent politician that earned his stripes. Donald Trump is a manchild that mocks disabled people and won because he appealed to the ignorant and bigoted.

[Alf]

There's a time and a place to rant about your political views, an awards ceremony to celebrate entertainment isn't the time.

Meryl Streep, who's lived her life staying in the best hotels in the World, dines at the finest restaurants in the World, all for free mind. Has people working for her, doing her cooking and cleaning and sorting her taxes for her.

Why does she think her political opinion should be shared with the people who just tuned in to watch an awards show?

She and other Hollywood monsters are so far away from the real World.

[Tom4784]

There's a time and a place to rant about your political views, an awards ceremony to celebrate entertainment isn't the time.

Meryl Streep, who's lived her life staying in the best hotels in the World, dines at the finest restaurants in the World, all for free mind. Has people working for her, doing her cooking and cleaning and sorting her taxes for her.

Why does she think her political opinion should be shared with the people who just tuned in to watch an awards show?

She and other Hollywood monsters are so far away from the real World.

There's a time and a place for jokes but that didn't stop one being elected President.

Award shows often become political, it's always the people who are opposed to what is being said that object and they object by acting like it isn''t the time or place for politics.

Again, Trump considered £1million dollars to be a 'small loan' so why should he pretend to speak for the people when he has no idea what life is like for anybody without an inheritance? Seems a bit off to be down with Trump but take exception to Meryl Streep.

[MB.]

Meryl Streep, who's lived her life staying in the best hotels in the World, dines at the finest restaurants in the World, all for free mind. Has people working for her, doing her cooking and cleaning and sorting her taxes for her.

I would mention that you could say exactly the same thing about Trump (who's just been elected as the "anti-establishment voice of the people" which, don't make me laugh) but I can't, because he doesn't pay his taxes in the first place :)

[Kizzy]

I'm not a celeb luvvie and I thought exactly the same about his performance.

[Livia]

You can always tell when someone hits the target right on the mark because of the lengths the opposition will go to discredit it.



Quote of the week for me.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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:rolleyes:

Brilliant article on the Streep speech by Piers Morgan

-----

Last night, Streep received a Lifetime Achievement award at the Golden Globes, and chose the moment to launch a very personal attack on Donald Trump.

She began by saying that Hollywood, foreigners and the press are ‘the most vilified segments of American society right now’.

At which point the cameras panned out to hundreds of the richest, most privileged people in American society sitting in the audience in their $10,000 tuxedos and $20,000 dresses, loudly cheering this acknowledgement of their dreadful victimhood.

She then said that if all the ‘outsiders and foreigners’ were kicked out of Hollywood, ‘you’ll have nothing to watch but football and mixed martial arts, which are not the arts.’

Wow.

I haven’t heard such elitist snobbery since Hillary Clinton branded Trump supporters ‘a basket of deplorables’.

For your information, Ms Streep, tens of millions of ordinary Americans love football and the MMA and would be quite happy watching their favourite sports at the expense of the next Woody Allen film.

Her real target, though, was Trump. She’d come to take him down, and that is exactly what she proceeded to do.

‘There were many powerful performances this year that did breathtaking, compassionate work,’ she said. ‘But there was one performance that stunned me. It sank it hooks in my heart, not because it was good – there’s nothing good about it. But it was effective and it did its job. It was that moment when the person asking to sit in the most respected seat in our country imitated a disabled reporter. Someone he outranked in privilege and power and the capacity to fight back.’

Meryl’s bottom lip began to tremble.

‘It kind of broke my heart when I saw it,’ she cried, ‘and I still can’t get it out of my head. This instinct to humiliate when it’s modelled by someone in the public platform, by someone powerful, filters down into everybody’s life because it kind of gives permission for other people to do the same thing.’

Hmmm.

Really, Meryl?

For starters, the incident to which she referred didn’t happen last year, it happened in 2015. There’s even been another Golden Globes in between then and now, at which it was never mentioned.

Second, Trump has always furiously denied – and has again today on Twitter - he was mocking the reporter’s disability and a Conservative website produced video evidence of numerous other instances where he made the exact same gesture to fully able-bodied people when attacking them. (See here and decide for yourself)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/01/09/13/3BF93B4C00000578-4102026-The_2016_event_Streep_referred_to_happened_in_2015 _and_Trump_has-m-22_1483969443185.jpghttp://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/01/09/13/3BF93B2F00000578-4102026-image-m-21_1483969426032.jpg

Third, the reporter is hardly a powerless individual with ‘no capacity to fight back’; he’s a long-time Pulitzer-prize winning investigative journalist at the New York Times, a paper that’s trashed Trump for decades.

But putting all that to one side for a moment – and if Trump WAS mocking a man’s disability then I agree it was disgraceful - let’s move to what Streep said next: ‘Disrespect invites disrespect. Violence incites violence. When the powerful use their position to bully others, we all lose.’

At this point, I laughed out loud with incredulity.

Not at the words themselves, which are laudable.

No, it was at the hypocrisy.

You’d be hard-pushed to find an industry that encourages more disrespect and violence than Hollywood.

A place where rich powerful people make billions of dollars by regularly pandering to the lowest common denominators of sexism, racism, homophobia and misogyny.

And happily exploit ever more hideous, graphic violence to make a fast, easy buck.

And seethe from every tinsel-encrusted pore with the very kind of nasty, power-based bullying that Meryl Streep claims to be so incensed by in Trump.

So great though her censorious words indisputably are, they would be perhaps better directed at her own back yard.

To highlight just one example of Streep’s shocking hypocrisy, what about the 2003 Oscars when she leaped to her feet and gave child rapist Roman Polanski a standing ovation after he was announced as winner of Best Director for The Pianist?

She was joined by numerous superstars in the room, many of whom were also seen on camera last night applauding and cheering as Streep attacked Trump’s supposed immorality.

Clearly, their collective high moral values are a movable feast.

At the end of her speech, Streep launched a passionate defense of the press. ‘They’ll need us to safeguard the truth,’ she said.

Now, I’ve been a journalist for over 30 years. I love my industry, warts and all, and I welcome any support.

But when it comes to the truth, many parts of America’s media were found severely wanting in this election campaign.

Frankly, a lot of the coverage was a fact-starved partisan disgrace as they fought to see who could sink deeper into the tank for Hillary Clinton.

The mainstream US media, having gleefully fuelled Trump’s candidacy for months to suit their own self-serving commercial interests, then turned on him like spitting cobras when he looked like he might actually win.

It’s also a fact that no president in modern times has been so anti-press, or so intent on attacking press freedom, as Barack Obama, one of Streep’s heroes.

Under his administration, the US government has set a new record for withholding Freedom of Information Act requests. Obama’s also used the Espionage Act to prosecute whistleblowers who leak to journalists more times than all previous administrations COMBINED.

So yes, the stench of hypocrisy throughout Streep’s speech was putridly pungent.

My overriding disappointment though is that she missed a massive opportunity to do something really constructive.

How much more effective would it have been had the most powerful woman in Hollywood called for unity not division, demanded a stop to all the teeth-gnashing and wailing over the election result, and urged Donald Trump in his inauguration speech to preach tolerance, fairness and equality?

That would have been a truly courageous and admirable thing to do.

nstead, Meryl Streep poured another 100 gallons of oil onto an already inflamed toxic fire.

She will get exactly what she wanted: today, she’s the toast of Hollywood, the darling of social media and a heroine to every Millennial in the world.

I’ve seen people on my Twitter feed say they actually wept with joy at her words.

But the reality is that she’s also enraged tens of millions of Americans who voted for and like Donald Trump, not to mention those who love their football and MMA.

And she’s simply re-confirmed to them what Mark Wahlberg said a few weeks ago when he urged actors not to talk about politics:

‘A lot of Hollywood is living in a bubble. They’re pretty out of touch with the common person, with the everyday guy out there providing for their family.’

Quite.

Meryl, I still love you dearly, but you had a chance to bring your country together last night and you blew it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4102026/PIERS-MORGAN-Sorry-Meryl-hypocritical-anti-Trump-rant-easily-worst-performance-career-apart-time-gave-child-rapist-standing-ovation.html


views?

[Kizzy]

#dailymail #nuffsaid

[Niamh.]

Outside of this incident that's mentioned about Roman Polanski winning that award, I just cannot believe that Hollywood allow him feature in any of their awards ceremonies or that actors agree to work with him still, it's disgusting, I mean the guy ran from the US to avoid prison for paedophilia

[y.winter]

It's getting boring.

[Crimson Dynamo]

#dailymail #nuffsaid

Its Piers Morgan

[Scarlett.]

Outside of this incident that's mentioned about Roman Polanski winning that award, I just cannot believe that Hollywood allow him feature in any of their awards ceremonies or that actors agree to work with him still, it's disgusting, I mean the guy ran from the US to avoid prison for paedophilia

Same for the director of Jeepers Creepers. To be honest though, there's a lot of rumors of that sort of thing being common in Hollywood (and it being common since the old days of Hollywood too) its creepy.

[Scarlett.]

Its Piers Morgan

:shrug:

[Niamh.]

Same for the director of Jeepers Creepers. To be honest though, there's a lot of rumors of that sort of thing being common in Hollywood (and it being common since the old days of Hollywood too) its creepy.

Oh I never heard anything about him, I'll look it up

[arista]

Outside of this incident that's mentioned about Roman Polanski winning that award, I just cannot believe that Hollywood allow him feature in any of their awards ceremonies or that actors agree to work with him still, it's disgusting, I mean the guy ran from the US to avoid prison for paedophilia


Very true

[arista]

Same for the director of Jeepers Creepers. To be honest though, there's a lot of rumors of that sort of thing being common in Hollywood (and it being common since the old days of Hollywood too) its creepy.


Great Film
Chewy

[Scarlett.]

Great Film
Chewy

I liked the film, but I refuse to watch it again after learning about what the director did.

[Niamh.]

I liked the film, but I refuse to watch it again after learning about what the director did.

Oh wow, just did some reading up on it, that's shocking. I wouldn't watch a Roman Polanski film either on principle

[arista]

I liked the film, but I refuse to watch it again after learning about what the director did.

Raped a boy
yes - not good

[Rob!]

His mate can try and defend him all he likes, it doesn't alter any of the facts :idc:

[Niamh.]

His mate can try and defend him all he likes, it doesn't alter any of the facts :idc:

Discrediting Meryl Streep or Hollywood doesn't make Donald Trump a good president or person for sure

[Crimson Dynamo]

His mate can try and defend him all he likes, it doesn't alter any of the facts :idc:

what facts?

[arista]

Oh wow, just did some reading up on it, that's shocking. I wouldn't watch a Roman Polanski film either on principle


I will as its before that event

Top Film
1974 on BluRay
Chinatown

Jack Nicholson

[Livia]

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:rolleyes:

Brilliant article on the Streep speech by Piers Morgan

-----

Last night, Streep received a Lifetime Achievement award at the Golden Globes, and chose the moment to launch a very personal attack on Donald Trump.

She began by saying that Hollywood, foreigners and the press are ‘the most vilified segments of American society right now’.

At which point the cameras panned out to hundreds of the richest, most privileged people in American society sitting in the audience in their $10,000 tuxedos and $20,000 dresses, loudly cheering this acknowledgement of their dreadful victimhood.

She then said that if all the ‘outsiders and foreigners’ were kicked out of Hollywood, ‘you’ll have nothing to watch but football and mixed martial arts, which are not the arts.’

Wow.

I haven’t heard such elitist snobbery since Hillary Clinton branded Trump supporters ‘a basket of deplorables’.

For your information, Ms Streep, tens of millions of ordinary Americans love football and the MMA and would be quite happy watching their favourite sports at the expense of the next Woody Allen film.

Her real target, though, was Trump. She’d come to take him down, and that is exactly what she proceeded to do.

‘There were many powerful performances this year that did breathtaking, compassionate work,’ she said. ‘But there was one performance that stunned me. It sank it hooks in my heart, not because it was good – there’s nothing good about it. But it was effective and it did its job. It was that moment when the person asking to sit in the most respected seat in our country imitated a disabled reporter. Someone he outranked in privilege and power and the capacity to fight back.’

Meryl’s bottom lip began to tremble.

‘It kind of broke my heart when I saw it,’ she cried, ‘and I still can’t get it out of my head. This instinct to humiliate when it’s modelled by someone in the public platform, by someone powerful, filters down into everybody’s life because it kind of gives permission for other people to do the same thing.’

Hmmm.

Really, Meryl?

For starters, the incident to which she referred didn’t happen last year, it happened in 2015. There’s even been another Golden Globes in between then and now, at which it was never mentioned.

Second, Trump has always furiously denied – and has again today on Twitter - he was mocking the reporter’s disability and a Conservative website produced video evidence of numerous other instances where he made the exact same gesture to fully able-bodied people when attacking them. (See here and decide for yourself)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/01/09/13/3BF93B4C00000578-4102026-The_2016_event_Streep_referred_to_happened_in_2015 _and_Trump_has-m-22_1483969443185.jpghttp://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/01/09/13/3BF93B2F00000578-4102026-image-m-21_1483969426032.jpg

Third, the reporter is hardly a powerless individual with ‘no capacity to fight back’; he’s a long-time Pulitzer-prize winning investigative journalist at the New York Times, a paper that’s trashed Trump for decades.

But putting all that to one side for a moment – and if Trump WAS mocking a man’s disability then I agree it was disgraceful - let’s move to what Streep said next: ‘Disrespect invites disrespect. Violence incites violence. When the powerful use their position to bully others, we all lose.’

At this point, I laughed out loud with incredulity.

Not at the words themselves, which are laudable.

No, it was at the hypocrisy.

You’d be hard-pushed to find an industry that encourages more disrespect and violence than Hollywood.

A place where rich powerful people make billions of dollars by regularly pandering to the lowest common denominators of sexism, racism, homophobia and misogyny.

And happily exploit ever more hideous, graphic violence to make a fast, easy buck.

And seethe from every tinsel-encrusted pore with the very kind of nasty, power-based bullying that Meryl Streep claims to be so incensed by in Trump.

So great though her censorious words indisputably are, they would be perhaps better directed at her own back yard.

To highlight just one example of Streep’s shocking hypocrisy, what about the 2003 Oscars when she leaped to her feet and gave child rapist Roman Polanski a standing ovation after he was announced as winner of Best Director for The Pianist?

She was joined by numerous superstars in the room, many of whom were also seen on camera last night applauding and cheering as Streep attacked Trump’s supposed immorality.

Clearly, their collective high moral values are a movable feast.

At the end of her speech, Streep launched a passionate defense of the press. ‘They’ll need us to safeguard the truth,’ she said.

Now, I’ve been a journalist for over 30 years. I love my industry, warts and all, and I welcome any support.

But when it comes to the truth, many parts of America’s media were found severely wanting in this election campaign.

Frankly, a lot of the coverage was a fact-starved partisan disgrace as they fought to see who could sink deeper into the tank for Hillary Clinton.

The mainstream US media, having gleefully fuelled Trump’s candidacy for months to suit their own self-serving commercial interests, then turned on him like spitting cobras when he looked like he might actually win.

It’s also a fact that no president in modern times has been so anti-press, or so intent on attacking press freedom, as Barack Obama, one of Streep’s heroes.

Under his administration, the US government has set a new record for withholding Freedom of Information Act requests. Obama’s also used the Espionage Act to prosecute whistleblowers who leak to journalists more times than all previous administrations COMBINED.

So yes, the stench of hypocrisy throughout Streep’s speech was putridly pungent.

My overriding disappointment though is that she missed a massive opportunity to do something really constructive.

How much more effective would it have been had the most powerful woman in Hollywood called for unity not division, demanded a stop to all the teeth-gnashing and wailing over the election result, and urged Donald Trump in his inauguration speech to preach tolerance, fairness and equality?

That would have been a truly courageous and admirable thing to do.

nstead, Meryl Streep poured another 100 gallons of oil onto an already inflamed toxic fire.

She will get exactly what she wanted: today, she’s the toast of Hollywood, the darling of social media and a heroine to every Millennial in the world.

I’ve seen people on my Twitter feed say they actually wept with joy at her words.

But the reality is that she’s also enraged tens of millions of Americans who voted for and like Donald Trump, not to mention those who love their football and MMA.

And she’s simply re-confirmed to them what Mark Wahlberg said a few weeks ago when he urged actors not to talk about politics:

‘A lot of Hollywood is living in a bubble. They’re pretty out of touch with the common person, with the everyday guy out there providing for their family.’

Quite.

Meryl, I still love you dearly, but you had a chance to bring your country together last night and you blew it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4102026/PIERS-MORGAN-Sorry-Meryl-hypocritical-anti-Trump-rant-easily-worst-performance-career-apart-time-gave-child-rapist-standing-ovation.html


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Firstly, I'm pretty sure Roman Polanski never stood for the presidency. And secondly, the word "brilliant" does not ever belong in the same sentence as the words "Piers" and "Morgan".

[Crimson Dynamo]

Firstly, I'm pretty sure Roman Polanski never stood for the presidency. And secondly, the word "brilliant" does not ever belong in the same sentence as the words "Piers" and "Morgan".

so as long as paedos dont run for office its ok to applaud them in public?



wow:shocked:

[Crimson Dynamo]

and piers is a leg end

:nono:

[Kizzy]

Its Piers Morgan

Is that supposed to make it better?... :joker: Your link was from the mail

[Glenn-C]

If this is how the President-Elect of the USA is going to react to any kind of criticism, then good look for the next 4 years Americans!

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o85xq9zz0fBWQsZBS/giphy.gif

[Crimson Dynamo]

If this is how the President-Elect of the USA is going to react to any kind of criticism, then good look for the next 4 years Americans!

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o85xq9zz0fBWQsZBS/giphy.gif

do you mean when a prominent actress drags him on worldwide tv to an audience of millions?


:rolleyes:

[Niamh.]

If this is how the President-Elect of the USA is going to react to any kind of criticism, then good look for the next 4 years Americans!

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o85xq9zz0fBWQsZBS/giphy.gif

I don't think he's going to get that far tbh, this latest Russia stuff isn't looking good for him. Can you imagine all his "Make America great Again" supporters in the states finding out he's actually been in bed with Russia the whole time? :worry:

[Kizzy]

do you mean when a prominent actress drags him on worldwide tv to an audience of millions?


:rolleyes:

If he makes criticisms in a public arena such a TV and social media then don't be surprise if that's how others choose to criticise him.

[the truth]

piers destroyed streep there

[Tom4784]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/01/09/13/3BFD56D500000578-4102026-image-m-17_1483969262056.jpghttp://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/01/09/13/005F1B7D00000258-4102026-At_the_2003_Oscars_Streep_leaped_to_her_feet_and_g ave_child_rapi-a-18_1483969270848.jpg


:rolleyes:

Brilliant article on the Streep speech by Piers Morgan

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Last night, Streep received a Lifetime Achievement award at the Golden Globes, and chose the moment to launch a very personal attack on Donald Trump.

She began by saying that Hollywood, foreigners and the press are ‘the most vilified segments of American society right now’.

At which point the cameras panned out to hundreds of the richest, most privileged people in American society sitting in the audience in their $10,000 tuxedos and $20,000 dresses, loudly cheering this acknowledgement of their dreadful victimhood.

She then said that if all the ‘outsiders and foreigners’ were kicked out of Hollywood, ‘you’ll have nothing to watch but football and mixed martial arts, which are not the arts.’

Wow.

I haven’t heard such elitist snobbery since Hillary Clinton branded Trump supporters ‘a basket of deplorables’.

For your information, Ms Streep, tens of millions of ordinary Americans love football and the MMA and would be quite happy watching their favourite sports at the expense of the next Woody Allen film.

Her real target, though, was Trump. She’d come to take him down, and that is exactly what she proceeded to do.

‘There were many powerful performances this year that did breathtaking, compassionate work,’ she said. ‘But there was one performance that stunned me. It sank it hooks in my heart, not because it was good – there’s nothing good about it. But it was effective and it did its job. It was that moment when the person asking to sit in the most respected seat in our country imitated a disabled reporter. Someone he outranked in privilege and power and the capacity to fight back.’

Meryl’s bottom lip began to tremble.

‘It kind of broke my heart when I saw it,’ she cried, ‘and I still can’t get it out of my head. This instinct to humiliate when it’s modelled by someone in the public platform, by someone powerful, filters down into everybody’s life because it kind of gives permission for other people to do the same thing.’

Hmmm.

Really, Meryl?

For starters, the incident to which she referred didn’t happen last year, it happened in 2015. There’s even been another Golden Globes in between then and now, at which it was never mentioned.

Second, Trump has always furiously denied – and has again today on Twitter - he was mocking the reporter’s disability and a Conservative website produced video evidence of numerous other instances where he made the exact same gesture to fully able-bodied people when attacking them. (See here and decide for yourself)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/01/09/13/3BF93B4C00000578-4102026-The_2016_event_Streep_referred_to_happened_in_2015 _and_Trump_has-m-22_1483969443185.jpghttp://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/01/09/13/3BF93B2F00000578-4102026-image-m-21_1483969426032.jpg

Third, the reporter is hardly a powerless individual with ‘no capacity to fight back’; he’s a long-time Pulitzer-prize winning investigative journalist at the New York Times, a paper that’s trashed Trump for decades.

But putting all that to one side for a moment – and if Trump WAS mocking a man’s disability then I agree it was disgraceful - let’s move to what Streep said next: ‘Disrespect invites disrespect. Violence incites violence. When the powerful use their position to bully others, we all lose.’

At this point, I laughed out loud with incredulity.

Not at the words themselves, which are laudable.

No, it was at the hypocrisy.

You’d be hard-pushed to find an industry that encourages more disrespect and violence than Hollywood.

A place where rich powerful people make billions of dollars by regularly pandering to the lowest common denominators of sexism, racism, homophobia and misogyny.

And happily exploit ever more hideous, graphic violence to make a fast, easy buck.

And seethe from every tinsel-encrusted pore with the very kind of nasty, power-based bullying that Meryl Streep claims to be so incensed by in Trump.

So great though her censorious words indisputably are, they would be perhaps better directed at her own back yard.

To highlight just one example of Streep’s shocking hypocrisy, what about the 2003 Oscars when she leaped to her feet and gave child rapist Roman Polanski a standing ovation after he was announced as winner of Best Director for The Pianist?

She was joined by numerous superstars in the room, many of whom were also seen on camera last night applauding and cheering as Streep attacked Trump’s supposed immorality.

Clearly, their collective high moral values are a movable feast.

At the end of her speech, Streep launched a passionate defense of the press. ‘They’ll need us to safeguard the truth,’ she said.

Now, I’ve been a journalist for over 30 years. I love my industry, warts and all, and I welcome any support.

But when it comes to the truth, many parts of America’s media were found severely wanting in this election campaign.

Frankly, a lot of the coverage was a fact-starved partisan disgrace as they fought to see who could sink deeper into the tank for Hillary Clinton.

The mainstream US media, having gleefully fuelled Trump’s candidacy for months to suit their own self-serving commercial interests, then turned on him like spitting cobras when he looked like he might actually win.

It’s also a fact that no president in modern times has been so anti-press, or so intent on attacking press freedom, as Barack Obama, one of Streep’s heroes.

Under his administration, the US government has set a new record for withholding Freedom of Information Act requests. Obama’s also used the Espionage Act to prosecute whistleblowers who leak to journalists more times than all previous administrations COMBINED.

So yes, the stench of hypocrisy throughout Streep’s speech was putridly pungent.

My overriding disappointment though is that she missed a massive opportunity to do something really constructive.

How much more effective would it have been had the most powerful woman in Hollywood called for unity not division, demanded a stop to all the teeth-gnashing and wailing over the election result, and urged Donald Trump in his inauguration speech to preach tolerance, fairness and equality?

That would have been a truly courageous and admirable thing to do.

nstead, Meryl Streep poured another 100 gallons of oil onto an already inflamed toxic fire.

She will get exactly what she wanted: today, she’s the toast of Hollywood, the darling of social media and a heroine to every Millennial in the world.

I’ve seen people on my Twitter feed say they actually wept with joy at her words.

But the reality is that she’s also enraged tens of millions of Americans who voted for and like Donald Trump, not to mention those who love their football and MMA.

And she’s simply re-confirmed to them what Mark Wahlberg said a few weeks ago when he urged actors not to talk about politics:

‘A lot of Hollywood is living in a bubble. They’re pretty out of touch with the common person, with the everyday guy out there providing for their family.’

Quite.

Meryl, I still love you dearly, but you had a chance to bring your country together last night and you blew it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4102026/PIERS-MORGAN-Sorry-Meryl-hypocritical-anti-Trump-rant-easily-worst-performance-career-apart-time-gave-child-rapist-standing-ovation.html


views?

LT, Piers and the Daily Mail proving me correct once again.

[DemolitionRed]

I'm sure Trump is just trying to take our eye away from what's happening on Twitter. Twitter is very entertaining atm. https://twitter.com/hashtag/GoldenShowers

https://twitter.com/HotinNY3/status/818999732559343616
Bwahahahahaaaaa!!

[Crimson Dynamo]

LT, Piers and the Daily Mail proving me correct once again.

its not about you

its about Meryll Streep

:rolleyes:

[Rob!]

what facts?

The fact that he mocked a disabled reporter on national television. He can deny it all he likes and so can any of his supporters - it happened.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The fact that he mocked a disabled reporter on national television. He can deny it all he likes and so can any of his supporters - it happened.

If you read Piers Morgan's article he deals with that quite well.

[user104658]

If you read Piers Morgan's article he deals with that quite well.

The fact that he feigns "disabled gestures" to mock non-disabled people as well as actual disabled people doesn't make it better. It makes it worse :think:.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The fact that he feigns "disabled gestures" to mock non-disabled people as well as actual disabled people doesn't make it better. It makes it worse :think:.

at least he isnt fawning over paedos

:think:

[Rob!]

If you read Piers Morgan's article he deals with that quite well.

No he doesn't. There is no way to deal with behaviour like that, especially someone who is supposed to become president

[user104658]

at least he isnt fawning over paedos

:think:

I couldn't give a **** about Streep, I find her irritating, *all* I am concerned about is the elected president of the most powerful country in the free world getting his pants in a twist every time he feels even slightly insulted, and getting into petty playground twitter scraps with celebrities. It's horrifying. There is no upside to this. He is a petty, angry, smarmy and unprofessional man-child who is simply not competent to do the job, and demonstrates so in new ways every day it seems.

[Shaun]

Since when was 'monster' a verb?

[Tom4784]

As for Piers Morgan trying to defend Trump by making out that he didn't mock a disabled person because he did the same thing while imitating an able bodied person, that only holds water IF Trump imitated the able bodied person BEFORE the rally in which he mocked the reporter.

If it occurred after the incident with the journalist then it's likely an attempt by his political analysts and advisers advising him to use the same mannerisms against someone else to downplay accusations that he was mocking the disabled person.

[Kizzy]

Didn't piers mock up a whole torture scene for his newspaper?...or was that real?... oh, no it wasn't real..or was it?

[DemolitionRed]

As for Piers Morgan trying to defend Trump by making out that he didn't mock a disabled person because he did the same thing while imitating an able bodied person, that only holds water IF Trump imitated the able bodied person BEFORE the rally in which he mocked the reporter.

If it occurred after the incident with the journalist then it's likely an attempt by his political analysts and advisers advising him to use the same mannerisms against someone else to downplay accusations that he was mocking the disabled person.

Clever :pipe2:

[the truth]

trump was out of order but he shoots from the lip , unlike other politicians , he speaks his mind and does speak off the cuff so hes bound to put his foot in it more...but he doesnt discriminate against disabled , in fact hes far less patronising he just had a go at a top reporter as hewould any reporter , he definitely didnt mean to attack him for his disability