Housing Crisis Solved - UK MADE New Prefabs

[arista]

From yestedays
Ch4HD News.

A UK Factory , North England
making Prefab homes fast.
Infact Two Big homes put up
and connected in a Day.

Prefab 3 bed House and Garden £150K

A Young Lady on a
Ch4HD News interview (14/1/17)
was renting one.
She was so happy to have a Garden
and her kid has a own bedroom.

They are Built in Bits
assembled in under a day
then connected.

Conservatives, Labour , UKIP
SNP and LibDem all want this

Sign Of The Times

[UserSince2005]

Doubt it, we need space to put the house, thats the problem.

I believe the solution is a new wave of garden cities encroaching in on green belt.

[DemolitionRed]

I do believe the prefabs are the way forward but they don't come without problems.

The disadvantage of not owning the land your house resides on means it is not deemed to be your property in the full sense of the law therefore only has a right of tenure under the 1983 Mobile Homes Act. If you come to sell the property you could find the site owner vetoing over who the home is sold on to and can they afford the often expensive pitch fee. The site owner is also allowed by law to charge the seller 10% of the house sale.

There are a lot of disputes going on between site owners and park home owners. At the moment, it seems that the land owner has all the clout. Laws need implementing to give the home owner more protection.

[arista]

"I do believe the prefabs are the way forward but they don't come without problems. "

Sure DR,
but these are New 2017 Built Prefabs.


Old Prefabs are Still going
Long after they were meant to be GONE


So any Problems like "you" claim
are Feck All.
Once Massive Production
As for old Laws
they can be CHANGED
FAST - as Everyone says
Housing is needed.

[user104658]

£150k for a 3 bed prefab is still ****ing obscene.

[arista]

Doubt it, we need space to put the house, thats the problem.

I believe the solution is a new wave of garden cities encroaching in on green belt.


Yes we are Doing that NOW,
It was announced a few months back,
and Many Garden Cities
are being BUILT right now


Feck sake thats been on all news for months now



This thread is about getting
Everyone into homes
CAN YOU NOT SEE THAT?

[arista]

£150k for a 3 bed prefab is still ****ing obscene.



TS

3 story high Prefab and Garden
to be Factual.
Nothing like 50 years ago



I would buy 10 of them
if I was allowed to
but its for the HOMELESS
so I can not.

[UserSince2005]

Yes we are Doing that NOW,
It was announced a few months back,
and Many Garden Cities
are being BUILT right now


Feck sake thats been on all news for months now



This thread is about getting
Everyone into homes
CAN YOU NOT SEE THAT?

Yes I understand, but it is whether the developers will actually deliver the vision or do a half arsed attempt and create a new set of ghettos

Section 106 and all that.

[DemolitionRed]

"I do believe the prefabs are the way forward but they don't come without problems. "

Sure DR,
but these are New 2017 Built Prefabs.


Old Prefabs are Still going
Long after they were meant to be GONE


So any Problems like "you" claim
are Feck All.
Once Massive Production
As for old Laws
they can be CHANGED
FAST - as Everyone says
Housing is needed.

For goodness sake Arista, do you actually want a debate about the pros and cons or do you just want us all to say, "yes great idea" without looking at the drawbacks of owning a new or a used site home?

Parc homes tend to loose value and so the sort of people who buy parc homes are the retired who need to release some equity. I would always advise bricks and mortar if this is 1) your first home or 2) you want an investment.

[DemolitionRed]

TS

3 story high Prefab and Garden
to be Factual.
Nothing like 50 years ago



I would buy 10 of them
if I was allowed to
but its for the HOMELESS
so I can not.

Where is this link with these 3 storey prehab properties? and why are they only for the homeless?

You would buy ten of them. So you're now telling us your a millionaire :conf:

How the hell can we debate a topic when we have nothing to go on?

[arista]

[For goodness sake Arista, do you actually want a debate about the pros and cons or do you just want us all to say, "yes great idea" ]

Of Course DR
thank you for your comments

[arista]

"You would buy ten of them. So you're now telling us your a millionaire"

No DR
I would buy Ten of them
if it was Legal.
Using Other Money
Not my own.

[DemolitionRed]

Here is a link http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/property/726961/Fighting-housing-crisis-prefabricated-housing-plans but nowhere does it say these are for the homeless.

[DemolitionRed]

and here is another link called, "Tiny Homes for the Homeless"
https://www.charterforcompassion.org/problem-solving/tiny-houses-for-the-homeless-an-affordable-solution-catches-on

[arista]

"would always advise bricks and mortar"

Yes DR - So would I.

But we are in a housing Crisis,
3 Storey High New 2017 Prefabs
are our Answer,

Ref: Ch4HD news yesterday

[arista]

Here is a link http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/property/726961/Fighting-housing-crisis-prefabricated-housing-plans but nowhere does it say these are for the homeless.


They are fast as well
shown on ITV1London News
a few moths back



That that type of Prefab
is not the Black Style , 3 story High,
two of them assembled fast up in a day,
that was shown yesterday.

[Kizzy]

£150k for a 3 bed prefab is still ****ing obscene.

It's really not and these are great, look into it, it would be ideal for you.

I work in Sherburn in Elmet and have spoken with lots of people who work there it sounds fantastic.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/thousands-of-flat-pack-homes-to-be-constructed-at-huge-yorkshire-factory-and-distributed-nationwide-a6892011.html

[user104658]

It's really not and these are great, look into it, it would be ideal for you.

I work in Sherburn in Elmet and have spoken with lots of people who work there it sounds fantastic.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/thousands-of-flat-pack-homes-to-be-constructed-at-huge-yorkshire-factory-and-distributed-nationwide-a6892011.html

Except that I could buy an actual 3-bed house made out of real life bricks for £40k less...

[Kizzy]

Except that I could buy an actual 3-bed house made out of real life bricks for £40k less...

Well if you can where you live that's fine but no way could you in Leeds, and you have to factor in the reduced energy costs of eco homes ... They are the future :)

[user104658]

Well if you can where you live that's fine but no way could you in Leeds, and you have to factor in the reduced energy costs of eco homes ... They are the future :)

Until they blow away in a light breeze...

[Kizzy]

Until they blow away in a light breeze...

:umm2: only if you live next door to a big bad wolf

[Cherie]

It's really not and these are great, look into it, it would be ideal for you.

I work in Sherburn in Elmet and have spoken with lots of people who work there it sounds fantastic.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/thousands-of-flat-pack-homes-to-be-constructed-at-huge-yorkshire-factory-and-distributed-nationwide-a6892011.html

Except that I could buy an actual 3-bed house made out of real life bricks for £40k less...

Well if you can where you live that's fine but no way could you in Leeds, and you have to factor in the reduced energy costs of eco homes ... They are the future :)

Until they blow away in a light breeze...

:umm2: only if you live next door to a big bad wolf


:laugh2:

[Kizzy]

What do you think Cherie? Do you like them?

https://www.baufritz.com/uk/

[arista]

Except that I could buy an actual 3-bed house made out of real life bricks for £40k less...

Sure TS
but this has a Garden and its a New Home Fully Fitted
READY

[Vicky.]

TS

3 story high Prefab and Garden
to be Factual.
Nothing like 50 years ago



I would buy 10 of them
if I was allowed to
but its for the HOMELESS
so I can not.

Arista you can buy me a 150k property if it makes you feel better. Not fussy on the area but I need at least 2 bedrooms.

[arista]

What do you think Cherie? Do you like them?

https://www.baufritz.com/uk/


This is not what was on Ch4HD News (14/1/17)
Wood Homes are Expensive, Over Priced infact
Quality of Course

The New 3 Storey Black PreFabs
are Good value

[DemolitionRed]

What you are not considering is the land where these homes are to be built is what pushes pricec up considerably (especially in London) You either have to buy land with planning permission or you have to pitch your house on someone else’s land and pay a monthly pitch fee.

Have you got a link with a ready built three storey prefab for £150k ?

[Kizzy]

Well I was thinking about that, you're right it's not really the cost of building or labour these days it't the land. when you see programmes where people buy a home with acres and acres attached I think what a greedy bast, someone else could have had a lovely home there!
It concentrates housing to smaller areas and restricts business being encouraged in those areas.

[user104658]

Well I was thinking about that, you're right it's not really the cost of building or labour these days it't the land. when you see programmes where people buy a home with acres and acres attached I think what a greedy bast, someone else could have had a lovely home there!
It concentrates housing to smaller areas and restricts business being encouraged in those areas.

Friends of ours recently bought a house for just under £360k (and again this is in Scotland where land is quite a bit cheaper) and I swear they must simply be paying for the land. It's a nice enough house... unique, detatched, etc. BUT it's not that big. 3 large bedrooms, 4 if you converted the dining room, decent lounge and kitchen but that's it :shrug:. I'd say the house itself is worth about £200k. But the garden is HUGE... it has its own little forested area, all designed so it "feels rural" (you can't see any other buildings, even though there are other houses quite close to it). But it's a hell of a lot to pay for that. Especially as the land isn't really suitable for building on without extensive work (it's on a fairly steep slope). There's easily room for another house + garden there, maybe even two :umm2:.

[DemolitionRed]

Building plots are normally sold on at half the eventual value of the finished house, so if your house is going to be worth 500k the plot you are building it on will cost around 250k

This doesn't include your electricity connection, your gas, water, mains drains and telecoms.

If the plot isn't on a road all the above will cost you a lot more and you will have the extra expense of putting down a connection between the road and your home.

[arista]

Well I was thinking about that, you're right it's not really the cost of building or labour these days it't the land. when you see programmes where people buy a home with acres and acres attached I think what a greedy bast, someone else could have had a lovely home there!
It concentrates housing to smaller areas and restricts business being encouraged in those areas.


There is massive Land
on Old Army Bases
so they have all Electricity/Gas/Water mains
that get expanded

[arista]

DR those 3 story
Black Prefabs shown Ch4HD News
Were Total Cost 150K
that was with and garden AS WELL

[jennyjuniper]

Doubt it, we need space to put the house, thats the problem.

I believe the solution is a new wave of garden cities encroaching in on green belt.

How about knocking down some of the slums and eyesores to make way for these prefabs instead of encroaching on an already dwindling greenbelt.

[Kizzy]

How about knocking down some of the slums and eyesores to make way for these prefabs instead of encroaching on an already dwindling greenbelt.

What slums and eyesores do you mean where people already currently live?

[DemolitionRed]

DR those 3 story
Black Prefabs shown Ch4HD News
Were Total Cost 150K
that was with and garden AS WELL


Sorry mate but I've searched the internet for these homes and can't find them. If you quote off CH4HD, but can't back that quote up with any readable source, then I for one won't debate with you.

[Cherie]

What do you think Cherie? Do you like them?

https://www.baufritz.com/uk/

These are lovely, they are timber framed houses like you see on Grand Designs very popular in some parts of Europe I don't think the prefabs will look anything like this unfortunately or we would all want one

[arista]

Sorry mate but I've searched the internet for these homes and can't find them. If you quote off CH4HD, but can't back that quote up with any readable source, then I for one won't debate with you.



OK DR when I get a min
I will Photograph the Home for you
and post it
If to big I will use Spoiler

[Kizzy]

These are lovely, they are timber framed houses like you see on Grand Designs very popular in some parts of Europe I don't think the prefabs will look anything like this unfortunately or we would all want one

They will have a frame Cherie, otherwise they'd fall down ;)

[arista]

For DR - sorry for delay
a Still pause from Ch4HD news
two 150K homes
both 3 bedrooms and both back gardens,
One Young lady was renting one prefab
she was so happy that her
child has her own room.

Large image
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[DemolitionRed]

For DR - sorry for delay
a Still pause from Ch4HD news
two 150K homes
both 3 bedrooms and both back gardens,
One Young lady was renting one prefab
she was so happy that her
child has her own room.

Large image
https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/16113199_10208500937981986_6068842387063587268_o.j pg?oh=bde571245f08ce40010e932a5cda6280&oe=591B36BB

Where is the information?

Actually don't worry about it. I've lost interest. :bored:

[arista]

Where is the information?

Actually don't worry about it. I've lost interest. :bored:


Very sorry for long delay DR
for no link
this link has those prefabs in Manchester
https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2017/jan/26/prefab-homes-uk-housing-crisis-modular-offsite-construction-manchester-liverpool-energy-efficiency

[Kizzy]

Brilliant idea as long as they are affordable and there are a percentage as social housing then I can't see what the hold up is..Housing has come a long way from the post war steel framed concrete prefabs, these are fantastic!

[arista]

Arista you can buy me a 150k property if it makes you feel better. Not fussy on the area but I need at least 2 bedrooms.


Vicky (Long Standing Mod tibb)
you are now in a special book.

At this very time I can not fund that.

But you are now in the Special Black Book
if funds come in
you are in there.

Never Say Never.

Man of my word
FACT

[arista]

"Brilliant idea as long as they are affordable"

Kizzy on that Ch4HD news report
the best part of it,
was a Mother and child
renting one.
And her child
for the First Time Ever
had her own bedroom.......

[Kizzy]

Vicky (Long Standing Mod tibb)
you are now in a special book.

At this very time I can not fund that.

But you are now in the Special Black Book
if funds come in
you are in there.

Never Say Never.

Man of my word
FACT

Am I in the book?.... :D

[DemolitionRed]

Very sorry for long delay DR
for no link
this link has those prefabs in Manchester
https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2017/jan/26/prefab-homes-uk-housing-crisis-modular-offsite-construction-manchester-liverpool-energy-efficiency

Thanks for the link arista, I think though, that you will find those houses are on the market for £335,000

[arista]

Thanks for the link arista, I think though, that you will find those houses are on the market for £335,000


Of Course DR
by the Water the Land cost's more.


The Same Modern Hi Tech Pre Fab
and fast build
and UK Jobs
ALL involved

The £150K
same homes
at another location
are still there to Buy
or if you are in a worse state of affairs
to Rent.

Which means so much more to a Mother,
who has a child who before that,
never had her own bedroom.....

[arista]

BBC1 AM before 7AM
Business Reporter was
at the Derbyshire factory
showing how the Kitchen is built into
that Base part 1st floor
High Quality New Prefabs are faster than
building - thats the point of this.


DR. this report will be on BBCnewsHD
all day.
And a link will be made