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Kizzy
19-01-2017, 03:54 PM
I think it's only fair :laugh:


'We’re a polite bunch, us Brits. But every now and again we need a good old sign to keep us in our place.

It's also one of the most efficient ways to remind us to keep our manners in check during the morning commute.

First, trains had the quiet carriage, now they have something much more useful: A Daily Mail Free Zone.

Signs are popping up on trains going across the country, stating:

Please allow consideration for fellow passengers by not reading or leaving copies of the Daily Mail newspaper in this coach.'



https://www.indy100.com/article/daily-mail-free-zone-signs-trains-7534841?utm_source=indy&utm_medium=top5&utm_campaign=i100

Crimson Dynamo
19-01-2017, 03:58 PM
what are you on about?

Vicky.
19-01-2017, 04:04 PM
I don't think this is too fair really...its pretty much banning right wing press stories from appearing :laugh:

Crimson Dynamo
19-01-2017, 04:05 PM
:facepalm:

Marsh.
19-01-2017, 04:19 PM
Let's make the world a DM free zone

Crimson Dynamo
19-01-2017, 04:23 PM
Let's make the world a DM free zone

and just how are we to find pics of celebs in bikinis?

T*
19-01-2017, 04:31 PM
Ban the Sun as well pls

Northern Monkey
19-01-2017, 04:41 PM
Im calling for a Metro free zone on buses

Kizzy
19-01-2017, 04:50 PM
I don't think this is too fair really...its pretty much banning right wing press stories from appearing :laugh:

I could learn to live with that ;)

Marsh.
19-01-2017, 04:50 PM
and just how are we to find pics of celebs in bikinis?
The dark Web

Kizzy
19-01-2017, 04:51 PM
The dark Web

It doesn't get much darker than the DM... :eek:

Crimson Dynamo
19-01-2017, 05:12 PM
SO Kizzy wants to ban the most popular newspaper website in the world..because she does not agree with its politics?

You have to love socialism

:laugh2:

Marsh.
19-01-2017, 05:15 PM
SO Kizzy wants to ban the most popular newspaper website in the world..because she does not agree with its politics?

You have to love socialism

:laugh2:
I don't think a website which provokes such discussion as comparing pap pics to Instagram posts is worthy of being called a newspaper. Teehee

Kizzy
19-01-2017, 05:19 PM
SO Kizzy wants to ban the most popular newspaper website in the world..because she does not agree with its politics?

You have to love socialism

:laugh2:

#ilovelablesme

DemolitionRed
19-01-2017, 05:22 PM
The Daily Mail (aka, Hate Mail, Daily Fail, Daily Heil, Daily Moan, Crazy Mail and so on) is a reactionary, neo-fascist tabloid rag masquerading as a "traditional values," middle-class newspaper that is, in many ways, the second-worst of the British gutter press.

—Russel Howard, Mock the Week
A real Daily Mail front page. Did you know that blacks have 18 more kids than middle-class white people?

The Mail is usually considered the furthest right of all UK newspapers/tabloids; it competes for this spot with the Daily Express. Although some of the red-top tabloids might throw about more extreme rhetoric, their laddish attitude often means they're not taken too seriously - the Mail, however, is entirely Serious Business. Their primary editorial stances are:

Anti-immigration
Anti-welfare and poor people in general
Health sensationalism (particularly with respect to cancer)
Anti–government
Anti-LGBT
Anti-Europe
Anti-human rights because human rights only protect the obviously guilty and/or paedophiles or darkies.
Anti-politics because the Mail's views are not politics, but just common sense.
Anti-internet and other modern technology ('Facebook kills our children')
Anti-taxes (mainly for those who can afford to pay them)
Anti-intellectualism ('what do they know?) including academics, experts (including doctors); indeed anyone with an "-ology."
Anti-lawyers, especially those who defend the enemies of the Daily Mail State.
Anti-liberal (not realising that the opposite of liberalism - (with a small 'l') is not Conservatism but totalitarianism/fascism)
Pro-objectification of women
Declinism about UK life, the economy, etc.
Pro-complaining about anything and everything they don't like
Claiming that political changes were because of their campaigns

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Daily_Mail

Crimson Dynamo
19-01-2017, 05:32 PM
I don't think a website which provokes such discussion as comparing pap pics to Instagram posts is worthy of being called a newspaper. Teehee

Second largest readership in the UK

People in the UK love it and they make healthy profits so whatever they are doing they are pleasing the readership and advertisers

:hee:

Crimson Dynamo
19-01-2017, 05:33 PM
#ilovelablesme

http://www.quotehd.com/imagequotes/authors60/tmb/aneurin-bevan-politician-no-amount-of-cajolery-and-no-attempts-at.jpg


yeah i can see

:idc:

Black Dagger
19-01-2017, 05:33 PM
Despicable, scummy outfit. I agree. Get rid

Crimson Dynamo
19-01-2017, 05:34 PM
The Daily Mail (aka, Hate Mail, Daily Fail, Daily Heil, Daily Moan, Crazy Mail and so on) is a reactionary, neo-fascist tabloid rag masquerading as a "traditional values," middle-class newspaper that is, in many ways, the second-worst of the British gutter press.

—Russel Howard, Mock the Week
A real Daily Mail front page. Did you know that blacks have 18 more kids than middle-class white people?

The Mail is usually considered the furthest right of all UK newspapers/tabloids; it competes for this spot with the Daily Express. Although some of the red-top tabloids might throw about more extreme rhetoric, their laddish attitude often means they're not taken too seriously - the Mail, however, is entirely Serious Business. Their primary editorial stances are:

Anti-immigration
Anti-welfare and poor people in general
Health sensationalism (particularly with respect to cancer)
Anti–government
Anti-LGBT
Anti-Europe
Anti-human rights because human rights only protect the obviously guilty and/or paedophiles or darkies.
Anti-politics because the Mail's views are not politics, but just common sense.
Anti-internet and other modern technology ('Facebook kills our children')
Anti-taxes (mainly for those who can afford to pay them)
Anti-intellectualism ('what do they know?) including academics, experts (including doctors); indeed anyone with an "-ology."
Anti-lawyers, especially those who defend the enemies of the Daily Mail State.
Anti-liberal (not realising that the opposite of liberalism - (with a small 'l') is not Conservatism but totalitarianism/fascism)
Pro-objectification of women
Declinism about UK life, the economy, etc.
Pro-complaining about anything and everything they don't like
Claiming that political changes were because of their campaigns

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Daily_Mail

—Russel Howard, Mock the Week

:laugh2:

Marsh.
19-01-2017, 05:34 PM
Second largest readership in the UK

People in the UK love it and they make healthy profits so whatever they are doing they are pleasing the readership and advertisers

:hee:
No wonder our kids are getting dumber with each generation :nono:

Crimson Dynamo
19-01-2017, 05:35 PM
No wonder our kids are getting dumber with each generation :nono:

they are not, they are getting smarter.

:smug:

Crimson Dynamo
19-01-2017, 05:37 PM
Print ABC Circulation Circulation 1,510,824 Daily
NRS Readership Adults 3,355,000 Daily
PC ABC Unique browsers 14,289,935 Daily
Page impressions 181,838,940 Daily
NRS PADD Readership Adults 1,335,000 Daily
15-34 373,000 Daily
35+ 963,000 Daily
comScore Total unique visitors 8,086,120 Monthly
Print & PC NRS PADD Readership Adults 4,547,000 Daily
15-34 755,000 Daily
35+ 3,792,000 Daily
Print & PC & Mobile NRS PADD Readership Adults 29,263,000 Monthly
Mobile comScore Total unique visitors 19,529,851 Monthly


:clap1:



meanwhile over at the loss making Guardian|: Average daily sale: 187,000

Kizzy
19-01-2017, 05:41 PM
http://www.quotehd.com/imagequotes/authors60/tmb/aneurin-bevan-politician-no-amount-of-cajolery-and-no-attempts-at.jpg


yeah i can see

:idc:

You do know I didn't write that?....right?...

Crimson Dynamo
19-01-2017, 05:42 PM
You do know I didn't write that?....right?...

no thankfully as its quite repulsive

Kizzy
19-01-2017, 05:44 PM
no thankfully as its quite repulsive

Aw, are you triggered snowflake?...

Cherie
19-01-2017, 05:46 PM
Will remember this thread when Kizzy quotes the DM :laugh:

Kizzy
19-01-2017, 05:48 PM
Will remember this thread when Kizzy quotes the DM :laugh:

I can actually hear people sifting through my posts now trying to find one :laugh:

Cherie
19-01-2017, 05:49 PM
I can actually hear people sifting through my posts now trying to find one :laugh:

I'm not :fist:

Alf
19-01-2017, 05:49 PM
I don't need a safe space from a newspaper, I don't fear it.

Jack_
19-01-2017, 05:59 PM
I don't think this is too fair really...its pretty much banning right wing press stories from appearing :laugh:

To be fair there are right leaning papers which can engage in quality journalism (i.e. The Telegraph & The Times) that wouldn't need banning

I think it's more about the trash that tabloids publish being unfit for serious debates, I'd be quite happy for a ban on all tabloid articles (which would include The Mirror) so that only broadsheets were permitted

Crimson Dynamo
19-01-2017, 06:02 PM
I can actually hear people sifting through my posts now trying to find one :laugh:

:omgno:

am i being hacked?

Marsh.
19-01-2017, 06:03 PM
I can actually hear people sifting through my posts now trying to find one [emoji23]
Good. Distracting you whilst I sift through your knicker drawer.

Crimson Dynamo
19-01-2017, 06:04 PM
To be fair there are right leaning papers which can engage in quality journalism (i.e. The Telegraph & The Times) that wouldn't need banning

I think it's more about the trash that tabloids publish being unfit for serious debates, I'd be quite happy for a ban on all tabloid articles (which would include The Mirror) so that only broadsheets were permitted

Most of the time the articles are in the broadsheets but the DM do better images and larger fuller articles so it really is a moot point. Plus Arista and me (for example) know that a DM link will irritate Kizzy et all so thats where we go there for the gold

:hehe:

Crimson Dynamo
19-01-2017, 06:05 PM
Good. Distracting you whilst I sift through your knicker drawer.

not Marsh going all tabloid in some kind of ironic twist

:omgno:

Marsh.
19-01-2017, 06:07 PM
Most of the time the articles are in the broadsheets but the DM do better images and larger fuller articles so it really is a moot point. Plus Arista and me (for example) know that a DM link will irritate Kizzy et all so thats where we go there for the gold

:hehe:
We don't need a fuller article with extra detail on where Theresa May had her hair blow dried.

Crimson Dynamo
19-01-2017, 06:10 PM
We don't need a fuller article with extra detail on where Theresa May had her hair blow dried.

:omgno:

Where?

Kizzy
19-01-2017, 06:14 PM
Most of the time the articles are in the broadsheets but the DM do better images and larger fuller articles so it really is a moot point. Plus Arista and me (for example) know that a DM link will irritate Kizzy et all so thats where we go there for the gold

:hehe:

You only post to troll me?....

You heard it here first folks!

Marsh.
19-01-2017, 06:14 PM
:omgno:

Where?
Toni&Guy where else?

The woman is hip and down with the kids.

Crimson Dynamo
19-01-2017, 06:22 PM
You only post to troll me?....

You heard it here first folks!

"Kizzy et all"

darling I like to troll in the plural

:hmph:

Jack_
19-01-2017, 06:23 PM
Most of the time the articles are in the broadsheets but the DM do better images and larger fuller articles so it really is a moot point. Plus Arista and me (for example) know that a DM link will irritate Kizzy et all so thats where we go there for the gold

:hehe:

Better images? It's Serious ****ing Debates, not BuzzFeed. It's for discussing the dismantling of the NHS, not which female celeb looks the fattest in a bikini :umm2:

The Mail Online is the most popular newspaper website on planet earth (a scary stat) because it's inflammatory, shouty, celebrity-obsessed, gutter journalism diluted with massive pictures so people don't have to pay attention - that appeals to the lowest common denominator. It and similar tabloids should have no place in a serious debate. But this is TiBB, so...

Jack_
19-01-2017, 06:23 PM
"Kizzy et all"

darling I like to troll in the plural

:hmph:

And it's only taken you 7 years and 3 months to admit it!

Crimson Dynamo
19-01-2017, 06:28 PM
Better images? It's Serious ****ing Debates, not BuzzFeed. It's for discussing the dismantling of the NHS, not which female celeb looks the fattest in a bikini :umm2:

The Mail Online is the most popular newspaper website on planet earth (a scary stat) because it's inflammatory, shouty, celebrity-obsessed, gutter journalism diluted with massive pictures so people don't have to pay attention - that appeals to the lowest common denominator. It and similar tabloids should have no place in a serious debate. But this is TiBB, so...

well if you would peel yourself away from the celeb section and just look at the news section it may improve for you

here is a link for future use

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/index.html

Crimson Dynamo
19-01-2017, 06:30 PM
And it's only taken you 7 years and 3 months to admit it!

that Jack would very much depend on your definition of Troll, irritating and educating the precious snowflake generation would not be mine

that is more of a calling

:hee:

Smithy
19-01-2017, 06:30 PM
Maybe SD should just be LT free instead :think:

Jack_
19-01-2017, 06:33 PM
well if you would peel yourself away from the celeb section and just look at the news section it may improve for you

here is a link for future use

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/index.html

Remove the 'celebrity-obsessed' phrase from my description, and I think you'll find the post is still relevant to the rest of the site...

that Jack would very much depend on your definition of Troll, irritating and educating the precious snowflake generation would not be mine

that is more of a calling

:hee:

You've just said you like to troll

Your words, not mine

:hee:

Kizzy
19-01-2017, 06:38 PM
"Kizzy et all"

darling I like to troll in the plural

:hmph:

Sorry LT I'll amend my comment,



You like to troll everyone!

You heard it here 2nd!

Crimson Dynamo
19-01-2017, 06:39 PM
I do my best

:hee:

Crimson Dynamo
19-01-2017, 06:42 PM
Maybe SD should just be LT free instead :think:

sorry, I dont think we have ever seen you in here..welcome

are you lost?

joeysteele
19-01-2017, 06:44 PM
Ban the Sun as well pls

Definitely for me too.

Kizzy
19-01-2017, 06:54 PM
I wouldn't even wrap my chips in the sun.

#justiceforthe96

Crimson Dynamo
19-01-2017, 06:58 PM
I think the left leaning members are still a teensy weensy bit sore from being wrong for 2 years?

tory win, brexit, trump

I know it hurts, and hurts bad to be so, so wrong over such a long time but trying to ban the media is not the way to get over this?

We live in a democracy guys, lets try and keep it that way

please

Withano
19-01-2017, 07:02 PM
I mean, if any news website gets banned, it ahould be the DM for their ****ty journalism and their comments section.

However, some people enjoy it, so I dont think it should be banned

Crimson Dynamo
19-01-2017, 07:11 PM
I mean, if any news website gets banned, it ahould be the DM for their ****ty journalism and their comments section.

However, some people enjoy it, so I dont think it should be banned

:clap1:

arista
19-01-2017, 07:33 PM
I think it's only fair :laugh:


'We’re a polite bunch, us Brits. But every now and again we need a good old sign to keep us in our place.

It's also one of the most efficient ways to remind us to keep our manners in check during the morning commute.

First, trains had the quiet carriage, now they have something much more useful: A Daily Mail Free Zone.

Signs are popping up on trains going across the country, stating:

Please allow consideration for fellow passengers by not reading or leaving copies of the Daily Mail newspaper in this coach.'



https://www.indy100.com/article/daily-mail-free-zone-signs-trains-7534841?utm_source=indy&utm_medium=top5&utm_campaign=i100


NO KIZZY


its Democracy


Admin this Stinks
it's like Free Press being
Burnt on Bonfires in the Film 1984
on BluRay now.


LT its like we Do not SAY
BAN THE GUARDIAN
DO WE??????????

arista
19-01-2017, 07:34 PM
"I think the left leaning members are still a teensy weensy bit sore from being wrong for 2 years?"


BANG ON RIGHT LT

Crimson Dynamo
19-01-2017, 07:49 PM
"I think the left leaning members are still a teensy weensy bit sore from being wrong for 2 years?"


BANG ON RIGHT LT

:clap1:

finally we have some reasonable posts

Crimson Dynamo
19-01-2017, 07:50 PM
NO KIZZY


its Democracy


Admin this Stinks
it's like Free Press being
Burnt on Bonfires in the Film 1984
on BluRay now.


LT its like we Do not SAY
BAN THE GUARDIAN
DO WE??????????


:laugh2:

arista
19-01-2017, 07:54 PM
I wouldn't even wrap my chips in the sun.

#justiceforthe96


who cares
move on

Life Is To Short

arista
19-01-2017, 07:56 PM
:clap1:

finally we have some reasonable posts



Yes this thread is Doomed
lets hope it is Locked


As DEMOCRACY
matters LT

Jack_
19-01-2017, 08:12 PM
I think the left leaning members are still a teensy weensy bit sore from being wrong for 2 years?

tory win, brexit, trump

I know it hurts, and hurts bad to be so, so wrong over such a long time but trying to ban the media is not the way to get over this?

We live in a democracy guys, lets try and keep it that way

please

I predicted Brexit two years before the referendum was called, and Trump several times on here

Your trolling fails on this count I'm afraid

Crimson Dynamo
19-01-2017, 08:18 PM
I predicted Brexit two years before the referendum was called, and Trump several times on here

Your trolling fails on this count I'm afraid

you did, as i recall, predict this epic series of CBB n your own - so kudos for that

:clap2:

Jack_
19-01-2017, 08:21 PM
Why thank you :hee: I am usually right on matters of Big Brother you see

Marsh.
19-01-2017, 08:36 PM
He predicts every series to be great :omgno:

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. :fan:

Jamie89
19-01-2017, 08:57 PM
Let's make the world a DM free zone

Ban the Sun as well pls

:clap1:

Kizzy
19-01-2017, 10:06 PM
Yes this thread is Doomed
lets hope it is Locked


As DEMOCRACY
matters LT

How democratic is you trying to silence me?.... :idc:

The DM is nothing but right wing propaganda

Pete.
19-01-2017, 10:08 PM
How will TiBB get their Lisa Appleton & Lizzie Cundy updates?

Kizzy
19-01-2017, 10:18 PM
who cares
move on

Life Is To Short

Who cares it's only the media, law enforcement and the government as in 'the establishment' colluding to pervert justice.



I care, and yes life is too short to be duped.

T*
19-01-2017, 10:21 PM
who cares
move on

Life Is To Short

:rolleyes:
You keep worrying about Arista Island my love

user104658
20-01-2017, 09:48 AM
http://i65.tinypic.com/2uqc22d.png
New sig 4 Kizzy.

arista
20-01-2017, 11:26 AM
:rolleyes:
You keep worrying about Arista Island my love


Yes T
you are in for a real Shocker
W W 3


You are Going Front Line


Right UP
there

arista
20-01-2017, 11:31 AM
Who cares it's only the media, law enforcement and the government as in 'the establishment' colluding to pervert justice.



I care, and yes life is too short to be duped.

Yes
Duped by the Guardian?
you said Please on the Title,



This needs to go to Chat And Games
Admin, please

No one has Changed

And DM photos are Essential for Live News Feed


This thread is a JOKE
kizzy - stuck in a Guardian WARP



LT
what a mess

Crimson Dynamo
20-01-2017, 11:36 AM
How democratic is you trying to silence me?.... :idc:

The DM is nothing but right wing propaganda

What its award winning sports coverage too?

:joker:

Crimson Dynamo
20-01-2017, 11:38 AM
Yes this should be in chart and games or suggestions and should be moved

Absolutely shocking that a forum member wants to ban certain media outlets just to please their socialistic tendencies

Disgraceful gerrymandering

arista
20-01-2017, 11:47 AM
I predicted Brexit two years before the referendum was called, and Trump several times on here

Your trolling fails on this count I'm afraid


How Nice

arista
20-01-2017, 11:51 AM
"Absolutely shocking that a forum member wants to ban certain media outlets just to please their socialistic tendencies

Disgraceful gerrymandering "



LT I am now going to Contact the owner of tibb
he is Top Fella
he knows all of what we post
I would be so pleased if he Spoke and Locked



Spoke and Locked
is Utter Bliss

Kizzy
20-01-2017, 12:48 PM
http://i65.tinypic.com/2uqc22d.png
New sig 4 Kizzy.

Thank you sweetie!

Kizzy
20-01-2017, 12:57 PM
Yes
Duped by the Guardian?
you said Please on the Title,



This needs to go to Chat And Games
Admin, please

No one has Changed

And DM photos are Essential for Live News Feed


This thread is a JOKE
kizzy - stuck in a Guardian WARP



LT
what a mess

It's a serious debate.... I'm seriously debating it :idc:

You are not admin, you don't get to decide

I sometimes quote the Guardian yes, along with other sources

(Other newspapers are available)

*Except the mail and the sun obv *spits* *

Kizzy
20-01-2017, 01:02 PM
Yes this should be in chart and games or suggestions and should be moved

Absolutely shocking that a forum member wants to ban certain media outlets just to please their socialistic tendencies

Disgraceful gerrymandering

Serious debates and news

This is news is it not?....

I want to debate whether it would be beneficial for the forum, some clearly agree :shrug:

Again with the lables, have I ever suggested I am a socialist? No.

Crimson Dynamo
20-01-2017, 01:06 PM
Serious debates and news

This is news is it not?....

I want to debate whether it would be beneficial for the forum, some clearly agree :shrug:

Again with the lables, have I ever suggested I am a socialist? No.

This is not news, its a silly request and should be in chat and games

Brillopad
20-01-2017, 10:29 PM
I think it's only fair :laugh:


'We’re a polite bunch, us Brits. But every now and again we need a good old sign to keep us in our place.

It's also one of the most efficient ways to remind us to keep our manners in check during the morning commute.

First, trains had the quiet carriage, now they have something much more useful: A Daily Mail Free Zone.

Signs are popping up on trains going across the country, stating:

Please allow consideration for fellow passengers by not reading or leaving copies of the Daily Mail newspaper in this coach.'



https://www.indy100.com/article/daily-mail-free-zone-signs-trains-7534841?utm_source=indy&utm_medium=top5&utm_campaign=i100

Your obsession with the Mail is unhealthy - you should get out more.

DemolitionRed
20-01-2017, 11:05 PM
"Absolutely shocking that a forum member wants to ban certain media outlets just to please their socialistic tendencies

Disgraceful gerrymandering "



LT I am now going to Contact the owner of tibb
he is Top Fella
he knows all of what we post
I would be so pleased if he Spoke and Locked



Spoke and Locked
is Utter Bliss

??? Locked what

Kizzy
20-01-2017, 11:44 PM
This is not news, its a silly request and should be in chat and games

It's a news article what's not to get? :/

Brillopad
21-01-2017, 08:46 AM
It's fear of a certain newspaper because you want to shut down views not in keeping with your own. Very un-democratic. Becoming somewhat of a habit.

Kizzy
21-01-2017, 12:06 PM
It's fear of a certain newspaper because you want to shut down views not in keeping with your own. Very un-democratic. Becoming somewhat of a habit.

ok

Amy Jade
21-01-2017, 12:24 PM
I'd say yes ban it but what about Lisa Appleton?

arista
21-01-2017, 12:31 PM
??? Locked what


VERY Sorry DR
Admin or any Mod
can LOCK a thread if it is a legal problem or fighting on it
thats Death to a thread
as no one can post on it again

I would move this to Chat and Games
as its a Silly Kizzy GAME


Sometimes
only if a mod or admin have time
a Thread is Locked for Cleaning

arista
21-01-2017, 12:33 PM
I'd say yes ban it but what about Lisa Appleton?


Amy Lady
Future SkyNewsHD 4K Reporter
this is Not a Freaking Vote thread
its a Chat and Games thread

Kizzy
21-01-2017, 12:33 PM
If you don't want to seriously debate this news item, there are other threads Arista.

user104658
21-01-2017, 12:35 PM
To be fair, it should all just be banned outright in favour of regulated, impartial, unemotive global news reporting the cold hard facts instead of pop-media sensationalism.

Imagine what such a world might look like :think:.

arista
21-01-2017, 12:35 PM
If you don't want to seriously debate this news item, there are other threads Arista.


No I do
I think you are being silly
its a Legal Newspaper
with Photos we all use

Serious Silly KIZZY

Kizzy
21-01-2017, 12:39 PM
No I do
I think you are being silly
its a Legal Newspaper
with Photos we all use

Serious Silly KIZZY

How rude :hmph:

arista
21-01-2017, 12:54 PM
How rude :hmph:

with respect
I do not mean to be Rude to you Kizzy


Its Absurd what your asking


And LT is with me on this,

arista
21-01-2017, 12:57 PM
Anyway kizzy you should send
a PM to Admin
as the change things on this Great Forum
then they can Reply Yes or No


Its Crazy to even say what you are asking

Kizzy
21-01-2017, 12:58 PM
with respect
I do not mean to be Rude to you Kizzy


Its Absurd what your asking


And LT is with me on this,

Well you are, if you have nothing else to say can you stop derailing my thread please?

arista
21-01-2017, 01:00 PM
"You are not admin, you don't get to decide"


Kizzy I can Not be Admin ever
I am a Manager in a Job

arista
21-01-2017, 01:01 PM
Well you are, if you have nothing else to say can you stop derailing my thread please?


There is Nothing to Derail
that Absurd of you

Kizzy
21-01-2017, 01:02 PM
"You are not admin, you don't get to decide"


Kizzy I can Not be Admin ever
I am a Manager in a Job

Good for you.

arista
21-01-2017, 01:06 PM
Good for you.


Yes
Can I Ask you to now PM Admin on this
as its up to them
not us

Kizzy
21-01-2017, 01:24 PM
Yes
Can I Ask you to now PM Admin on this
as its up to them
not us

No I will not, stop trolling this thread please.
I'm reporting any further attempts to derail the thread.

arista
21-01-2017, 02:08 PM
No I will not, stop trolling this thread please.
I'm reporting any further attempts to derail the thread.


Yes Kizzy please report
it

As all I ask is Staff to help you
Please

not possible to derail a Joke thread

arista
21-01-2017, 02:33 PM
The Daily Mail
is a Legal Newspaper


Just like The Guardian is
FACT

Brillopad
21-01-2017, 04:42 PM
The Daily Mail (aka, Hate Mail, Daily Fail, Daily Heil, Daily Moan, Crazy Mail and so on) is a reactionary, neo-fascist tabloid rag masquerading as a "traditional values," middle-class newspaper that is, in many ways, the second-worst of the British gutter press.

—Russel Howard, Mock the Week
A real Daily Mail front page. Did you know that blacks have 18 more kids than middle-class white people?

The Mail is usually considered the furthest right of all UK newspapers/tabloids; it competes for this spot with the Daily Express. Although some of the red-top tabloids might throw about more extreme rhetoric, their laddish attitude often means they're not taken too seriously - the Mail, however, is entirely Serious Business. Their primary editorial stances are:

Anti-immigration
Anti-welfare and poor people in general
Health sensationalism (particularly with respect to cancer)
Anti–government
Anti-LGBT
Anti-Europe
Anti-human rights because human rights only protect the obviously guilty and/or paedophiles or darkies.
Anti-politics because the Mail's views are not politics, but just common sense.
Anti-internet and other modern technology ('Facebook kills our children')
Anti-taxes (mainly for those who can afford to pay them)
Anti-intellectualism ('what do they know?) including academics, experts (including doctors); indeed anyone with an "-ology."
Anti-lawyers, especially those who defend the enemies of the Daily Mail State.
Anti-liberal (not realising that the opposite of liberalism - (with a small 'l') is not Conservatism but totalitarianism/fascism)
Pro-objectification of women
Declinism about UK life, the economy, etc.
Pro-complaining about anything and everything they don't like
Claiming that political changes were because of their campaigns

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Daily_Mail

That is just opinion and even if it were true to attempt to silence opposing opinions is for dictatorships.

Amy Jade
21-01-2017, 04:52 PM
Amy Lady
Future SkyNewsHD 4K Reporter
this is Not a Freaking Vote thread
its a Chat and Games thread

If it was a vote I'd support Kizzy :hee:

Crimson Dynamo
21-01-2017, 04:57 PM
i cant believe this is still in serious debates

Please put this in chat and games Mods


SD is getting like chat and games at the moment

jesus wept

Jack_
21-01-2017, 05:17 PM
That is just opinion and even if it were true to attempt to silence opposing opinions is for dictatorships.

It's factual, actually

Here's a list of things that - according to the Daily Mail - give you cancer:

http://www.anorak.co.uk/288298/keyposts/the-daily-mails-list-of-things-that-give-you-cancer-from-a-to-z.html/

Brillopad
21-01-2017, 05:21 PM
It's factual, actually

Here's a list of things that - according to the Daily Mail - give you cancer:

http://www.anorak.co.uk/288298/keyposts/the-daily-mails-list-of-things-that-give-you-cancer-from-a-to-z.html/

The bit that states 'their primary editorial stances' is opinion.

Jack_
21-01-2017, 05:54 PM
The bit that states 'their primary editorial stances' is opinion.

I can't see where it says that but regardless - it's a list of what must be at least one hundred linked examples of scaremongering nonsense by the Mail, it is anything but opinion.

The Daily Mail's agenda is pretty clear cut - right leaning, anti-welfare, anti-immigration, obsessed with health etc etc - with all due respect you'd have to be pretty vacuous to suggest otherwise. It'd be like me trying to make out The Guardian isn't anti Tory, anti capitalism, pro EU etc

arista
21-01-2017, 06:24 PM
"The Daily Mail's agenda is pretty clear cut - right leaning, anti-welfare, "

Sure Clever Jack
But it's a
all Legal Paper.

I am Right Wing Jack
and I like you.

I do not want the Guardian banned,

arista
21-01-2017, 06:26 PM
I do hope much later
Admin have the time to Rule on this,

Brillopad
21-01-2017, 06:35 PM
I can't see where it says that but regardless - it's a list of what must be at least one hundred linked examples of scaremongering nonsense by the Mail, it is anything but opinion.

The Daily Mail's agenda is pretty clear cut - right leaning, anti-welfare, anti-immigration, obsessed with health etc etc - with all due respect you'd have to be pretty vacuous to suggest otherwise. It'd be like me trying to make out The Guardian isn't anti Tory, anti capitalism, pro EU etc

What if it is right-leaning, there are left-leaning papers as well. You can't ban one and not the other. If posters choose to quote the Mail that is their prerogative just as it is for others to quote from other sources.

Crimson Dynamo
21-01-2017, 06:36 PM
What if it is right-leaning, their are left-leaning papers as well. You can't ban one and not the other. If posters choose to quote the Mail that is their prerogative just as it is for others to quote from other sources.

dont bother, its a joke thread and should be moved immediately

arista
21-01-2017, 06:50 PM
dont bother, its a joke thread and should be moved immediately


Bang On Right LT

Jack_
21-01-2017, 07:16 PM
What if it is right-leaning, there are left-leaning papers as well. You can't ban one and not the other. If posters choose to quote the Mail that is their prerogative just as it is for others to quote from other sources.

If you'd read my earlier posts in this thread you'd see that I remarked that I would actually be in favour of all tabloid articles being banned (which would include the left leaning Mirror) as opposed to just the Mail.

Tabloids engage in reactionary, inane, dumbed down gutter journalism and they should have no place in a serious debate.

Crimson Dynamo
21-01-2017, 07:37 PM
If you'd read my earlier posts in this thread you'd see that I remarked that I would actually be in favour of all tabloid articles being banned (which would include the left leaning Mirror) as opposed to just the Mail.

Tabloids engage in reactionary, inane, dumbed down gutter journalism and they should have no place in a serious debate.

yet you are happy to see a facebook /twitter teenage pathetic hitler comparison to the president of the USA?


wow, just wow



this place

Jack_
21-01-2017, 07:38 PM
yet you are happy to see a facebook /twitter teenage pathetic hitler comparison to the president of the USA?


wow, just wow



this place

:umm2:

Where did I say I was happy to see that? I haven't seen it, actually

Don't put words into my mouth thanks fam

Jack_
21-01-2017, 07:39 PM
also LT I know this is par for the course with you but it's a little futile complaining about things not being appropriate for Serious Debates when you literally made a thread about people going to Tesco in their pyjamas

yeah, wow

this place

Brillopad
21-01-2017, 07:46 PM
If you'd read my earlier posts in this thread you'd see that I remarked that I would actually be in favour of all tabloid articles being banned (which would include the left leaning Mirror) as opposed to just the Mail.

Tabloids engage in reactionary, inane, dumbed down gutter journalism and they should have no place in a serious debate.

I don't see that on a site like tibb quoting from tabloids should be banned. Some tabloids are more serious than others and if others want to quote from any tabloid so be it. You don't hear people whining constantly about the lefty papers, although many of those are the worst.

It's just a predictable attempt to undermine others. People should provide more reliable evidence if they can instead of just thinking crying 'it's from the Mail' is all they need to do - that is too easy and proves nothing.

Crimson Dynamo
21-01-2017, 07:57 PM
also LT I know this is par for the course with you but it's a little futile complaining about things not being appropriate for Serious Debates when you literally made a thread about people going to Tesco in their pyjamas

yeah, wow

this place

It was debated on radio, tv and online

a genuine news article

C5, LBC, 5 live, ITV1



what was this joke thread on?

Niamh.
21-01-2017, 07:59 PM
The thread is staying where it is, Back on topic please

Jack_
21-01-2017, 08:00 PM
I don't see that on a site like tibb quoting from tabloids should be banned. Some tabloids are more serious than others and if others want to quote from any tabloid so be it. You don't hear people whining constantly about the lefty papers, although many of those are the worst.

It's just a predictable attempt to undermine others. People should provide more reliable evidence if they can instead of just thinking crying 'it's from the Mail' is all they need to do - that is too easy and proves nothing.

I don't really care whether they are or not because I will continue to deride both the Mail and similar tabloids for their vapid 'journalism' regardless, I merely remarked that I wouldn't be opposed to the idea of such a ban being stretched to all tabloids as opposed to just the one. Also you say 'many' when the only national left-leaning papers in the UK are The Mirror, The Guardian (The Observer on Sunday's) and to a certain extent The Independent, the very idea that there are 'many' is quite frankly laughable.

It's the other way round, actually. People who are attempting to engage in a serious debate should source their information from reputable, quality sources (in this context broadsheet newspapers), and not rely on the inflammatory, juvenile nonsense printed in such pathetic rags. Content from a tabloid newspaper - unless used as material for media analysis - would have no place in an academic setting, so why should it in the context of a Serious Debates subforum?

Again, I don't really care either way because I'm happy to bask in the knowledge that it's all ****e - but if we're discussing banning one, we may as well propose banning them all.

Brillopad
21-01-2017, 08:22 PM
I don't really care whether they are or not because I will continue to deride both the Mail and similar tabloids for their vapid 'journalism' regardless, I merely remarked that I wouldn't be opposed to the idea of such a ban being stretched to all tabloids as opposed to just the one. Also you say 'many' when the only national left-leaning papers in the UK are The Mirror, The Guardian (The Observer on Sunday's) and to a certain extent The Independent, the very idea that there are 'many' is quite frankly laughable.

It's the other way round, actually. People who are attempting to engage in a serious debate should source their information from reputable, quality sources (in this context broadsheet newspapers), and not rely on the inflammatory, juvenile nonsense printed in such pathetic rags. Content from a tabloid newspaper - unless used as material for media analysis - would have no place in an academic setting, so why should it in the context of a Serious Debates subforum?

Again, I don't really care either way because I'm happy to bask in the knowledge that it's all ****e - but if we're discussing banning one, we may as well propose banning them all.

You make some good points but tibb is not an academic setting. Serious debates or not it simply is not that serious.

DemolitionRed
21-01-2017, 08:30 PM
You make some good points but tibb is not an academic setting. Serious debates or not it simply is not that serious.

And there can never be serious debate in here when so many of the most active posters get their politics from the DM.

Withano
21-01-2017, 08:41 PM
I think the argument derailed a bit

People are calling the daily mail right wing and presuming thats why others want it banned from serious debates

Thats not the case

If there is a reason for banning it; it would be this: It is a non-serious paper which doesnt report news, it is a mockery of right wing media and all media.
It should be banned because the journalists are incompetent, not right wing.

However, I dont think it should be banned, people are aware of how others feel about the DM. they are surely aware they will not be taken seriously by using it as a main source..

Brillopad
21-01-2017, 08:56 PM
And there can never be serious debate in here when so many of the most active posters get their politics from the DM.

I think we have seen on here that even when posters do produce evidence from good sources people will still not take it on board if it doesn't fit in with their way of thinking. They will find some way off dismissing it.

Besides it would take me back to having to reference every flipping source used in a piece of work. Done and dusted.

Kizzy
21-01-2017, 09:16 PM
I think we have seen on here that even when posters do produce evidence from good sources people will still not take it on board if it doesn't fit in with their way of thinking. They will find some way off dismissing it.

Besides it would take me back to having to reference every flipping source used in a piece of work. Done and dusted.

Name a 'good source'...

arista
22-01-2017, 10:42 AM
Kizzy the Daily Mail is Not going to be Banned
sorry to inform you,


I am Not Staff
But Respect The Owner of this Great Site

user104658
22-01-2017, 11:44 AM
I think we have seen on here that even when posters do produce evidence from good sources people will still not take it on board if it doesn't fit in with their way of thinking. They will find some way off dismissing it.

Besides it would take me back to having to reference every flipping source used in a piece of work. Done and dusted.
No one on here EVER produces good evidence from original, unbiased sources. Literally doesn't happen. I'm including myself in that, too, although I'd say I'm usually pretty upfront about my posts being based on my own opinion.

Using a newspaper article as a source - no matter WHICH newspaper - is using a second hand source already biased by the opinions of its author.

Tldr: newspapers are never good sources. You would never get away with citing one in an official or academic document as a source of fact. There's a reason for that.

Jøsh
22-01-2017, 11:44 AM
No

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4143514/CBB-s-Bianca-Gascoigne-gets-irritated-Jamie-O-Hara.html

user104658
22-01-2017, 11:55 AM
No

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4143514/CBB-s-Bianca-Gascoigne-gets-irritated-Jamie-O-Hara.html
Omg scum

DemolitionRed
22-01-2017, 12:28 PM
I think we have seen on here that even when posters do produce evidence from good sources people will still not take it on board if it doesn't fit in with their way of thinking. They will find some way off dismissing it.

Besides it would take me back to having to reference every flipping source used in a piece of work. Done and dusted.


I don't disagree with you. I have a blog post about just this.
Like Withano, I think any link is better than no link at all. There's nothing more frustrating than opening a threat to a news story only to find it has no link… its difficult to start a dialogue on hearsay.

As for using the DM as a source... when a poster perpetually posts stories from this trash tabloid, you know you can't debate with them because their political knowledge is flawed by a distorted view of how politics works.

user104658
22-01-2017, 12:38 PM
.

As for using the DM as a source... when a poster perpetually posts stories from this trash tabloid, you know you can't debate with them because their political knowledge is flawed by a distorted view of how politics works.

Which makes LT's posted stats on "news" circulation / readership stats all the more disturbing. These are the papers that the "great" British public are buying every day. I don't see how anyone can take democracy even remotely seriously when the worldview of the general public, the people voting, is so hideously and bizarrely distorted.

DemolitionRed
22-01-2017, 02:04 PM
Which makes LT's posted stats on "news" circulation / readership stats all the more disturbing. These are the papers that the "great" British public are buying every day. I don't see how anyone can take democracy even remotely seriously when the worldview of the general public, the people voting, is so hideously and bizarrely distorted.


I agree... its woman hating, Muslim bashing, NHS undermining peace of crap but its a peace of crap that is embraced by so many people in this country.

Part of the trick is to make the world seem more threatening than it is: crime is rising, migrants flooding the country, benefit scroungers swindling the taxpayer, standards of education falling, wind turbines taking over the countryside. Almost anything you eat or drink could give you cancer.
The Mail then assures readers they are not alone in their anxieties about this changing world. The Mail gives its readers a sense of belonging in an increasingly complex and unsettling world. http://www.newstatesman.com/media/2013/12/man-who-hates-liberal-britain

You can always spot a DM reader because they become alarmists about all of the above.

Jack_
22-01-2017, 03:48 PM
The best trashing of the Mail you'll ever see

a2IaNrlAqj0

arista
22-01-2017, 04:27 PM
Yes I like HIM
Wise Jack.


But it is still A Legal Paper

Brillopad
22-01-2017, 04:33 PM
The best trashing of the Mail you'll ever see

a2IaNrlAqj0

One man's opinion - a man who no doubt has his own agenda.

Tbh Just about any newspaper can be torn apart from someone.

Tom4784
22-01-2017, 04:36 PM
The best trashing of the Mail you'll ever see

a2IaNrlAqj0

DRAG IT :clap1:

Tom4784
22-01-2017, 04:38 PM
One man's opinion - a man who no doubt has his own agenda.

Tbh Just about any newspaper can be torn apart from someone.

And none of this has any relevance to the DM.

Jack_
22-01-2017, 04:39 PM
One man's opinion - a man who no doubt has his own agenda.

Tbh Just about any newspaper can be torn apart from someone.

Yes I wonder what kind of 'agenda' that is :rolleyes:

The difference being is that most newspapers don't have as much of a vile legacy as the Mail does

DemolitionRed
22-01-2017, 04:42 PM
The best trashing of the Mail you'll ever see

a2IaNrlAqj0

Oh he's good!

DemolitionRed
22-01-2017, 04:48 PM
Yes I like HIM
Wise Jack.


But it is still A Legal Paper

All you have done throughout this thread is complain about why its in SD. Even when you've been advised by a mod that its staying here you refuse to stop complaining. If you don't like it, you don't have to come here but if you are going to come here, then please try and debate the topic instead of behaving like a petulant child.

Brillopad
22-01-2017, 04:49 PM
Yes I wonder what kind of 'agenda' that is :rolleyes:

The difference being is that most newspapers don't have as much of a vile legacy as the Mail does

Again opinion.

MTVN
22-01-2017, 04:51 PM
Trust the Mail more than a site like the Canary tbh

Jack_
22-01-2017, 04:53 PM
Again opinion.

Well...it isn't, but whatever helps you sleep at night :umm2:

Tom4784
22-01-2017, 05:12 PM
Again opinion.

Not really, unless you believe that the founder of the DM being a Nazi sympathiser is acceptable? That the other atrocious scandals it's been involved in over the years are justified?

arista
22-01-2017, 05:21 PM
Trust the Mail more than a site like the Canary tbh


MTVN
can you ask James to Speak
on this thread ,Please

He does not have to Close it
Just simply Rule on it
Very EASY

YES for ban


No for no ban.



Once James Rules on it
I bugger off to many More Important threads
or you MTVN can move it
Chat and Games
and not even bother James.


So nice to see Good Staff on Duty

arista
22-01-2017, 05:26 PM
Well...it isn't, but whatever helps you sleep at night :umm2:


A Outside Fast Run
works well
Wise Jack

arista
22-01-2017, 05:31 PM
All you have done throughout this thread is complain about why its in SD. Even when you've been advised by a mod that its staying here you refuse to stop complaining. If you don't like it, you don't have to come here but if you are going to come here, then please try and debate the topic instead of behaving like a petulant child.

Sorry DR
also LT is the same


No Mods are great
they help us all.


But I am with the Law of the Land
I would NEVER say ban the Guardian , for example.


I love your input DR.
as you are able to see outside the box,
so to speak,
And you even had time to supply a Link
to one of my 4AM threads
Thank You DR

arista
22-01-2017, 05:37 PM
also LT I know this is par for the course with you but it's a little futile complaining about things not being appropriate for Serious Debates when you literally made a thread about people going to Tesco in their pyjamas

yeah, wow

this place

Yes that was Debated on ALL Radio and TV though
so LT
beat me to that thread
as I was going to post it
but I had a Meeting to go to.

Withano
22-01-2017, 06:55 PM
Maybe you can make another thread about this, Arista, where people can chat about the DM etc. A third thread in the suggestions subforum mght also be a good idea.. But for now, I think people are fine debating whether it has a place on this forum, so the serious debate subforum seems appropriate.

I voted yes initially, people can use whatever source they like, however, there are some good arguments for it being banned :think: im gonna have to read the debate progress a little longer.

Brillopad
22-01-2017, 07:48 PM
Maybe you can make another thread about this, Arista, where people can chat about the DM etc. A third thread in the suggestions subforum mght also be a good idea.. But for now, I think people are fine debating whether it has a place on this forum, so the serious debate subforum seems appropriate.

I voted yes initially, people can use whatever source they like, however, there are some good arguments for it being banned :think: im gonna have to read the debate progress a little longer.

There are no more good arguments for it to be banned than left wing rags. You can't effectively ban articles by a paper on one side of an argument whilst allowing articles by a paper on the other side. That would just be biased and completely undemocratic.

Seems that some of the left-leaners on here don't value the democratic process if it doesn't suit. What would that say about a future labour government if typical of some supporters on here - would they ignore a public vote every time it didn't go their way.

Withano
22-01-2017, 08:02 PM
There are no more good arguments for it to be banned than left wing rags. You can't effectively ban articles by a paper on one side of an argument whilst allowing articles by a paper on the other side. That would just be biased and completely undemocratic.

Seems that some of the left-leaners on here don't value the democratic process if it doesn't suit. What would that say about a future labour government if typical of some supporters on here - would they ignore a public vote every time it didn't go their way.

It shouldnt be banned because its right wing, id ignore any posts that suggest this is the reason

The strong argument for me was banning it because its terrible. Full of terrible journalists with backward mindsets, and awful nazi roots which I did not know about...
The issue is with the DM in particular, not all right wing media. Because the DM simply makes a mockery of right wing media and all media.

I dont know what youre on about democratic processes, we're discussing newspapers.. But speaking about democratic processes since you brought it up, maybe the forum should vote on it? Seems like there are arguments on both sides, and a vote might settle it. You keep going on about how much you like democracy, you must be elated with this idea of mine.

Kizzy
22-01-2017, 08:05 PM
Trust the Mail more than a site like the Canary tbh

Why would that be? Or are you having a little troll? I don't mind, everyone else has had a go :laugh:

Kizzy
22-01-2017, 08:10 PM
There are no more good arguments for it to be banned than left wing rags. You can't effectively ban articles by a paper on one side of an argument whilst allowing articles by a paper on the other side. That would just be biased and completely undemocratic.

Seems that some of the left-leaners on here don't value the democratic process if it doesn't suit. What would that say about a future labour government if typical of some supporters on here - would they ignore a public vote every time it didn't go their way.

Why would other papers be banned... Just for some tit for tat nonsensical reason, who has raised issues with other papers to such an extent as the mail has..genuinely?

Brillopad
22-01-2017, 08:19 PM
It shouldnt be banned because its right wing, id ignore any posts that suggest this is the reason

The strong argument for me was banning it because its terrible. Full of terrible journalists with backward mindsets, and awful nazi roots which I did not know about...
The issue is with the DM in particular, not all right wing media. Because the DM simply makes a mockery of right wing media and all media.

I dont know what youre on about democratic processes, we're discussing newspapers.. But speaking about democratic processes since you brought it up, maybe the forum should vote on it? Seems like there are arguments on both sides, and a vote might settle it. You keep going on about how much you like democracy, you must be elated with this idea of mine.

No I wouldn't because to ban it would not only be appallingly arrogant it would demonstrate bias and favouritism for one side over another. This is also a predominantly left-wing forum. It does not require a vote because some people don't like the paper. Childish nonsence.

Where is all the evidence to prove all these journalists have nazi roots? Have you looked at the background of the journalists of left-wing papers and does having 'nazi roots' make someone a nazi - sounds more like a witchhunt to me.

Stuff and nonsence coming from people with an agenda in my opinion.

Kizzy
22-01-2017, 08:36 PM
No I wouldn't because to ban it would not only be appallingly arrogant it would demonstrate bias and favouritism for one side over another. This is also a predominantly left-wing forum. It does not require a vote because some people don't like the paper. Childish nonsence.

Where is all the evidence to prove all these journalists have nazi roots? Have you looked at the background of the journalists of left-wing papers and does having 'nazi roots' make someone a nazi - sounds more like a witchhunt to me.

Stuff and nonsence coming from people with an agenda in my opinion.

Feel free to do your own research, but I provided a snapshot.
Personally I don't feel the alliances have shifted that significantly.


'Lord Rothermere disposed of his shares in the Daily Mirror in 1931. He now concentrated on the Daily Mail and the Evening News. In the 1930s Rothermere moved further to the right. When Hitler became Chancellor on 30th January 1933, Rothermere produced a series of articles acclaiming the new regime. The most famous of these was on the 10th July when he told readers that he "confidently expected" great things of the Nazi regime. He also criticised other newspapers for "its obsession with Nazi violence and racialism", and assured his readers that any such deeds would be "submerged by the immense benefits that the new regime is already bestowing on Germany."

Rothermere now began a campaign in favour of the Nazi Party. The Daily Mail criticized "the old women of both sexes" who filled British newspapers with rabid reports of Nazi "excesses." Instead, the newspaper claimed, Hitler had saved Germany from "Israelites of international attachments" and the "minor misdeeds of individual Nazis will be submerged by the immense benefits that the new regime is already bestowing upon Germany."

George Ward Price, the Daily Mail's foreign correspondent developed a very close relationship with Adolf Hitler. According to the German historian, Hans-Adolf Jacobsen: "The famous special correspondent of the London Daily Mail, Ward Price, was welcomed to interviews in the Reich Chancellery in a more privileged way than all other foreign journalists, particularly when foreign countries had once more been brusqued by a decision of German foreign policy. His paper supported Hitler more strongly and more constantly than any other newspaper outside Germany." Franklin Reid Gannon, the author of The British Press and Germany (1971), has claimed that Hitler regarded him as "the only foreign journalist who reported him without prejudice". In his autobiography, Extra-Special Correspondent (1957), Ward Price defended himself against the charge he was a fascist by claiming: "I reported Hitler's statements accurately, leaving British newspaper readers to form their own opinions of their worth."

http://spartacus-educational.com/Jmail.htm

Withano
22-01-2017, 08:38 PM
No I wouldn't because to ban it would not only be appallingly arrogant it would demonstrate bias and favouritism for one side over another. This is also a predominantly left-wing forum. It does not require a vote because some people don't like the paper. Childish nonsence.

Where is all the evidence to prove all these journalists have nazi roots? Have you looked at the background of the journalists of left-wing papers and does having 'nazi roots' make someone a nazi - sounds more like a witchhunt to me.

Stuff and nonsence coming from people with an agenda in my opinion.

In my opinion, people should be free to post whatever source they like.. And others should be free to ridicule that source, and the first person should be aware which sources this is most likely to happen with. But as with every thread I come in to, my mind can be changed by good arguments. And lets both be honest, the opposing side have made a hell of a better argument than our side has.

Read through the thread, the nazi roots was discussed a couple pages back. I cant imagine your mind would be changed on the topic with or without me fetching the posts for you, so I'll skip doing you this favour. This was something I assumed you would have already seen yourself considering your active involvement in the thread..

Brillopad
22-01-2017, 08:51 PM
In my opinion, people should be free to post whatever source they like.. And others should be free to ridicule that source, and the first person should be aware which sources this is most likely to happen with. But as with every thread I come in to, my mind can be changed by good arguments. And lets both be honest, the opposing side have made a hell of a better argument than our side has.

Read through the thread, the nazi roots was discussed a couple pages back. I cant imagine your mind would be changed on the topic with or without me fetching the posts for you, so I'll skip doing you this favour. This was something I assumed you would have already seen yourself considering your active involvement in the thread..

I briefly read something posted by Kizzy but that was from decades ago. What does that have to do with today's journalists for the paper - are we labelling every DM journalist a nazi sympathiser because of the actions of some journalists years ago - are we tarring all DM journalists with the same brush because of their political views. Having so-called right-wing views does not a nazi make.

MTVN
22-01-2017, 08:59 PM
Why would that be? Or are you having a little troll? I don't mind, everyone else has had a go :laugh:

Maybe a little one but seriously it does pain me to see the Canary posted anywhere, its so clickbait

Withano
22-01-2017, 09:01 PM
I briefly read something posted by Kizzy but that was from decades ago. What does that have to do with today's journalists for the paper - are we labelling every DM journalist a nazi sympathiser because of the actions of some journalists years ago - are we tarring all DM journalists with the same brush because of their political views. Having so-called right-wing views does not a nazi make.

But the argument of how influential the nazi beginnings is to the DM today is very much open.

Mystic Mock
22-01-2017, 09:01 PM
I hate The Sun more than the Daily Mail because at least with the Daily Mail what you see is what you get.

With The Sun they'll be much more sneaky about who's side they're on but will still plant seeds for whoever they want to win an Election or bringing a law forward.

Jake.
22-01-2017, 09:02 PM
if anything, people shouldn't post stuff from the daily mail because it's childish, repetitive bile

"khloe kardashian flaunts her ample assets in a racy bikini"

"chloe khan braces the cold whilst showing off her assets in a racy instagram selfie"

"these brain teasing puzzles are taking the internet by STORM: can YOU solve them?"

Jake.
22-01-2017, 09:04 PM
I hate The Sun more than the Daily Mail because at least with the Daily Mail what you see is what you get.

With The Sun they'll be much more sneaky about who's side they're on but will still plant seeds for whoever they want to win an Election or bringing a law forward.

the mail is just as sneaky and even worse for planting seeds imo

they'll post articles about celebrities who they know the majority of their readers will dislike expressing left wing views, all in the aim of getting their readers venting in the comments section

Mystic Mock
22-01-2017, 09:12 PM
that Jack would very much depend on your definition of Troll, irritating and educating the precious snowflake generation would not be mine

that is more of a calling

:hee:

The only one I see behaving like a snowflake here is you.:laugh:

Kizzy
22-01-2017, 09:30 PM
Maybe a little one but seriously it does pain me to see the Canary posted anywhere, its so clickbait

Hmmm... How is any rational news source supposed to become established these days, especially a 'nu media' one?
If you had some rationale for this, then I might be able to see your issue... But I don't see one.

Kizzy
22-01-2017, 09:33 PM
But the argument of how influential the nazi beginnings is to the DM today is very much open.

Yes, there is a debate there, are their views that far removed from where they were?
The evidence would suggest not to me :/

user104658
22-01-2017, 09:47 PM
I think we should also ban Sky News in 1080i HD and also 720p.

Livia
23-01-2017, 12:04 PM
Yeah, let's ban the DM. Why not? It's the way SD is going.

arista
23-01-2017, 12:29 PM
I think we should also ban Sky News in 1080i HD and also 720p.


OK
SkyNewsHD 4K soon anyway TS

Plus a robot sitting next to the Fit lady presenter
a First in the WORLD TS


not Max Headroom

More Speaking and able to UPDATE
Fit Lady Human next to him
faster that a Ear bit


TS
Feel The Force

arista
23-01-2017, 12:32 PM
if anything, people shouldn't post stuff from the daily mail because it's childish, repetitive bile

"khloe kardashian flaunts her ample assets in a racy bikini"

"chloe khan braces the cold whilst showing off her assets in a racy instagram selfie"

"these brain teasing puzzles are taking the internet by STORM: can YOU solve them?"


UTTER BOLLOCKS

the DM gives me the Best Shocking CBB photos
and Riot Photos


DM is the best for FREE Photos

FECKiNG Guardian say NO Photo Copy image
so DEATH TO YOU


Die away you NASTY paper Guardian not allowing photo jpgs to be used
I used to get Fantastic images from Guardian online
those days have gone, sadly
they are to Die

Crimson Dynamo
23-01-2017, 12:49 PM
if anything, people shouldn't post stuff from the daily mail because it's childish, repetitive bile

"khloe kardashian flaunts her ample assets in a racy bikini"

"chloe khan braces the cold whilst showing off her assets in a racy instagram selfie"

"these brain teasing puzzles are taking the internet by STORM: can YOU solve them?"

Why would anyone post showbiz news in SD?:shrug:

Maybe you should look at the top of the page on the site and use the NEWS section and steer clear of showbusiness

Crimson Dynamo
23-01-2017, 12:52 PM
Yeah, let's ban the DM. Why not? It's the way SD is going.

yes lets ban the DM and have more facebook stuff like "hey hun did you see that Donald Trump is effectively Hitler"


lol at all those who HATE the DM clapping and agreeing with that :joker:

you

could

not

make

it

up


:rolleyes:

arista
23-01-2017, 02:13 PM
I hate The Sun more than the Daily Mail because at least with the Daily Mail what you see is what you get.

With The Sun they'll be much more sneaky about who's side they're on but will still plant seeds for whoever they want to win an Election or bringing a law forward.


How Nice

DemolitionRed
23-01-2017, 03:33 PM
UTTER BOLLOCKS

the DM gives me the Best Shocking CBB photos
and Riot Photos


DM is the best for FREE Photos

FECKiNG Guardian say NO Photo Copy image
so DEATH TO YOU


Die away you NASTY paper Guardian not allowing photo jpgs to be used
I used to get Fantastic images from Guardian online
those days have gone, sadly
they are to Die

Imagines Arista dancing round his kitchen in Cuban heels. :dog:

arista
23-01-2017, 03:35 PM
Imagines Arista dancing round his kitchen in Cuban heels. :dog:


No Heels
Working 24/7 Shifts

Keep Fit as well


Feel The Force

DemolitionRed
23-01-2017, 03:37 PM
No Heels
Working 24/7 Shifts

Keep Fit as well


Feel The Force

I hope you're not on here in working hours then.

Just saying

arista
23-01-2017, 03:44 PM
I hope you're not on here in working hours then.

Just saying


I am a Manager
I cover all my work


The CEO above me
is happy
with my HARD WORK

That Matters

MTVN
23-01-2017, 04:09 PM
Hmmm... How is any rational news source supposed to become established these days, especially a 'nu media' one?
If you had some rationale for this, then I might be able to see your issue... But I don't see one.

The Canary's habit of clickbait titles, misleading stories and fake news is well known. One example from Private Eye:

http://i.imgur.com/UFcqSKa.jpg

Crimson Dynamo
23-01-2017, 04:45 PM
Oh dear not Kizzy calling to ban a legit and popular newspaper whilst promoting fake news and cickbait

This thread has rather bitten her in the ass

:fan:

DemolitionRed
23-01-2017, 08:16 PM
I am a Manager
I cover all my work


The CEO above me
is happy
with my HARD WORK

That Matters

I believe you, thousands wouldn't

Kizzy
23-01-2017, 09:23 PM
The Canary's habit of clickbait titles, misleading stories and fake news is well known. One example from Private Eye:

http://i.imgur.com/UFcqSKa.jpg

:idc:


09:14, 16 February 2016

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3449031/Hopes-fade-missing-junior-doctor-walked-hospital.html


( Irony innit? )

arista
23-01-2017, 09:40 PM
I believe you, thousands wouldn't




thank you DR.

arista
02-02-2017, 01:26 PM
"How democratic is you trying to silence me?.... "


No KIZZY
I want you posting.
sadly Admin
and The Owner of tibb
are not even bothering to comment
on this Wrong Thread

If you ban DM
then ban the Guardian

Crazy
Ying Yang
Kizzy

Kizzy
03-02-2017, 07:09 AM
"How democratic is you trying to silence me?.... "


No KIZZY
I want you posting.
sadly Admin
and The Owner of tibb
are not even bothering to comment
on this Wrong Thread

If you ban DM
then ban the Guardian

Crazy
Ying Yang
Kizzy


Don't be ridiculous :idc:

arista
03-02-2017, 07:38 AM
Don't be ridiculous :idc:


Kizzy thats what you are doing
with respect

No Forum / Site
would Ever Ban
a National Selling Newspaper.

Its against Common sense

Even if a Paper upsets 20% of the nation


I mean BBC News upsets me daily
but its still on a feed
of one my 5 HD TV's

Kizzy
03-02-2017, 07:54 AM
Why is everyone obsessed with the DM ?.... :/

Brillopad
03-02-2017, 06:10 PM
Why is everyone obsessed with the DM ?.... :/

It's just a paper. I find it a bit weird how some obsess about this.

Kizzy
03-02-2017, 09:01 PM
It's just a paper. I find it a bit weird how some obsess about this.

ok

arista
04-02-2017, 10:37 AM
Why is everyone obsessed with the DM ?.... :/


The Best free JPG's

Fecking Guardian - Now blocks photos to be copied
Utter Fools
ensuring their death soon.

Livia
04-02-2017, 01:02 PM
Why is everyone obsessed with the DM ?.... :/

Why don't you ask the person who started this thread?

Oh... hang on...

Northern Monkey
04-02-2017, 01:56 PM
Why don't you ask the person who started this thread?

Oh... hang on...

You beat me


Great minds

Kizzy
03-04-2017, 11:14 AM
I'm saying nowt me....


People who read the news are more likely to feel angry towards Muslims, a new study has found.

Whether liberal or conservative, researchers found more avid news consumers showed both increased anger and reduced warmth towards members of the Islamic faith.

The findings, based on responses from 16,584 New Zealanders from the New Zealand Attitudes and Values Study (NZAVS), were published in leading international science journal PLOS ONE.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/islamophobic-read-news-more-racist-study-muslim-terrorism-radical-isis-plos-one-new-zealanders-a7663861.html

user104658
03-04-2017, 11:22 AM
InB4 someone claims they're just "better informed"

Kizzy
03-04-2017, 11:33 AM
If they knew better they would do better.


Quote of the day.

smudgie
03-04-2017, 01:26 PM
Rather than banning something you don't like, ignoring it is the easy way.
Stress free.

Kizzy
03-04-2017, 01:33 PM
Rather than banning something you don't like, ignoring it is the easy way.
Stress free.

PC gone mad that is....

Kizzy
03-04-2017, 01:47 PM
It's a news item that we're debating :idc:

ebandit
03-04-2017, 02:55 PM
...mother reads the DM...............no wonder we have never got on

..but no reason for any ban.......

Mark L

arista
03-04-2017, 03:05 PM
...mother reads the DM...............no wonder we have never got on

..but no reason for any ban.......

Mark L


how nice