Similarities between Hitler and Trump

[Denver]

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[Kizzy]

Fair point, can't argue with those similarities.

[the truth]

https://cdn1.ijr.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Screen-Shot-2015-12-08-at-10.52.32-PM.png

he doesn't just blame immigrants for Americas problems. that's a lie

[jaxie]

I think it's probably time to stop the hysterical fear mongering over the new President, dubious as he may seem, and give the man a chance to see whether he can do a good job or not. Stranger things have happened.

[Liberty4eva]

https://cdn1.ijr.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Screen-Shot-2015-12-08-at-10.52.32-PM.png

How can he be blaming immigrants for America's problems when he is married to one? If the day ever comes when Trump rounds up millions of Muslim Americans or drops a nuke on Iran, then I think the comparison will be fair. Until then this comparison is silly.

[the truth]

I dont think all Mexicans should die
that's offensive

[Kizzy]

that's offensive

To who?!!

[Greg!]

Wouldn't say he's as bad as Hitler, but I find it disturbing that anyone would vote/support someone who is racist, a liar, makes up conspiracy theories, doesn't belive in climate change, and admitted sexual assault. Each to their own tho I suppose

[joeysteele]

Actually Adam,.you have raised fair points there.
The rhetoric of both is in some ways alarmingly similar.

[Ashley.]

he doesn't just blame immigrants for Americas problems. that's a lie

So what are you saying then? That there are other factors he's placing blame on as well as immigrants, or that he's not placing blame on immigrants at all?

[Withano]

Trump is more similar to Hitler than most modern world leaders, I'm sure nobody in the thread would suggest otherwise.. The picture implies that they're on similar levels though.. When Hitler has done all those things listed to a much higher (almost incomparable) degree

[Tom4784]

The similarities are definitely there but thankfully Trump is neither as intelligent or as capable of charming the masses to his way of thinking as Hitler was.

[Lostie!]

Hitler: Had a stupid moustache
Trump: Has a stupid hairdo

[Ashley.]

Hitler: Had a stupid moustache
Trump: Has a stupid hairdo

:laugh2:

[Crimson Dynamo]

whilst I am sure this is great for teenagers and their twitter its not really suitable for SD



MODS can this be moved to Chat and Games

[Crimson Dynamo]

Hitler: Had a stupid moustache
Trump: Has a stupid hairdo

and this illustrates why ^^^^^(apart from the childish content of the OP)

[Withano]

^ you are also free to add something serious to this debate

[Denver]

whilst I am sure this is great for teenagers and their twitter its not really suitable for SD



MODS can this be moved to Chat and Games

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Not everyone thinks the same as you and you do not own SD so either make a valid contribution or stop posting childish replies

[Tom4784]

We obviously need to spend more time discussing appropriate attire to wear to Tesco or how men need to be men and recoil at the thought of bath bombs or personal hygiene instead of talking about similarities between two world leaders.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Mods please move this, its childish facebook twitter drivel and not in anyway serious

[Withano]

Mods please move this, its childish facebook twitter drivel and not in anyway serious

Was pretty serious until you came along with these petty posts tbf

[Black Dagger]

Mods please move this, its childish facebook twitter drivel and not in anyway serious

Was a fine discussion until you came in to patronise and belittle people, thanks.

[Niamh.]

Back on topic now please

[Brillopad]

We obviously need to spend more time discussing appropriate attire to wear to Tesco or how men need to be men and recoil at the thought of bath bombs or personal hygiene instead of talking about similarities between two world leaders.

Imagined and grossly exaggerated 'similarities' based on personal dislike of the man. Nonsence.

[Northern Monkey]

:joker:

Let's give him time to prove he's not Hitler before jumping to hysterics.If by the end of his presidency he's killed six million muslims in concentration camps then i'll come back to this thread and agree that Trump is infact the reincarnation of Hitler.

[Jordan.]

Shook this comparison has never been brought up before

[joeysteele]

I don't think there is anything childish at all in the OP.

Adam has presented a comparison that shows 2 leaders who won power and who are united in what appears to be divisive and confrontational rhetoric.

It alarms me that the USA could elect this apparent loose cannon,I hope parts of the World and some nationalities of the World don't suffer as a result..
However I have strong doubts as to that.

[joeysteele]

I don't think there is anything childish at all in the OP.

Adam has presented a comparison that shows 2 leaders who won power and who are united in what appears to be divisive and confrontational rhetoric.

It alarms me that the USA could elect this apparent loose cannon,I hope parts of the World and some nationalities of the World don't suffer as a result..
However I have strong doubts as to that.

[Brillopad]

:joker:

Let's give him time to prove he's not Hitler before jumping to hysterics.If by the end of his presidency he's killed six million muslims in concentration camps then i'll come back to this thread and agree that Trump is infact the reincarnation of Hitler.

:dance:

[Mystic Mock]

There's one major difference between them though, and that's Hitler was loved by the majority of his people at the time who was for alot of those radical thoughts from Hitler, where as Trump didn't even get the vote of the people but instead a rigged system in their favour as small rural States in America always go for Republican.

My point being that the people will not accept those ideas from Trump.

[joeysteele]

There's one major difference between them though, and that's Hitler was loved by the majority of his people at the time who was for alot of those radical thoughts from Hitler, where as Trump didn't even get the vote of the people but instead a rigged system in their favour as small rural States in America always go for Republican.

My point being that the people will not accept those ideas from Trump.


Another set of valid points and welcome back Mock,great to see you here again.

[Mystic Mock]

Another set of valid points and welcome back Mock,great to see you here again.

Thanks Joey.:wavey:

I nearly forgot for a second just how crazy SD is on here.:joker:

[Livia]

They have the same number of eyes, don't forget. That comparison is just about as valid as the rest of the "comparisons".

There was an explosion of indignation on here when I used the term "red Nazis" to describe some old school Labourites, a term that had been used widely in the press. Those same people think this is a fair comparison though.

[joeysteele]

They have the same number of eyes, don't forget. That comparison is just about as valid as the rest of the "comparisons".

There was an explosion of indignation on here when I used the term "red Nazis" to describe some old school Labourites, a term that had been used widely in the press. Those same people think this is a fair comparison though.


Adam made this thread only pointing out similarities of style and rhetoric.
Which a fair few have overall agreed with,myself included and I do think raised a valid issue as to these 2 men coming to near absolute power.

Since you raise it, your red nazi comment was directed at a whole body of people on a particular side of politics you have no time for.

This is merely a thread highlighting the similarities of divisiveness and confrontational style of just these 2 men as seen by threadmaker and his OP.
He is not saying all Republicans or those who vote for him are tarred with the same brush.
As you did when you termed 'those on the left', not a few,not some but 'those on the left',as being red Nazis.

[the truth]

she didn't say all red nazis

[Livia]

she didn't say all red nazis

Thank you... The term I used has been skewed completely and used to create a massive furore over nothing.

[joeysteele]

she didn't say all red nazis

I am not getting into this as the mods deemed the post bad enough to be removed from the forum
So be careful.

I am sure the mods still have it and as I recall,with deliberate omission of the words few or some.
The charge was 'those on the left who are Jewish hating,terrorist supporting red nazis'.

Offensive in any event whether even just meant as to a few or some anyway.

[joeysteele]

Thank you... The term I used has been skewed completely and used to create a massive furore over nothing.

Your view as to that,not mine.
Then again you are the one who voluntarily chose to use such terms in that post.
None of which were used by Adam in his OP on this thread.

[Livia]

I am not getting into this as the mods deemed the post bad enough to be removed from the forum
So be careful.

I am sure the mods still have it and as I recall,with deliberate omission of the words few or some.
The charge was 'those on the left who are Jewish hating,terrorist supporting red nazis'.

Offensive in any event whether even just meant as to a few or some anyway.

That's a lot of words for someone not getting into it. And the mods tend to delete posts that have been reported.

Anyway, time you got over a comment made by someone and NOT aimed at you.

Adam's my friend... I'm sure he'll be okay with my comments on this thread.

[joeysteele]

That's a lot of words for someone not getting into it. And the mods tend to delete posts that have been reported.

Anyway, time you got over a comment made by someone and NOT aimed at you.

Adam's my friend... I'm sure he'll be okay with my comments on this thread.


I never reported that post but it was removed.

You could have in your wording.made it clear you meant no one on.here,if you really did not.

Good for you that Adam is your friend, he is a good friend to have as indeed you can be too.
That does not alter the offensiveness of the comments you.raised again as to that post.

However last year taught me to keep peace as best as can be.
I accept now you did not mean me or others on here directly,which you have made clear in the above post.
I wish you well Livia.

[joeysteele]

Shook this comparison has never been brought up before

Good point too.
It's the rhetoric that seems to have some alarming similarities.
The Nationalistic divisive uncompromising tone of same.

The World is always a fragile place but I fear Trump's antagonistic style is likely to bring things down even more.
I'd love to be proven wrong however and see his power curbed strongly from the USA governing bodies.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Shook this comparison has never been brought up before

thats because the world is a teensy wee bit more than your recollections

“Barry Goldwater’s Rise is Compared to Rise of Hitler,” announced Jet magazine on July 30, 1964.
Richard Nixon was often compared to Hitler by his Democratic rival George McGovern. And then it’s been passed down to Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush. It’s become a trend among Republican presidents, to have the Democratic challengers compare them to the fascist leader.

“This happens every time a major Republican comes on the scene,” said Joe Scarborough, co-host of MSNBC’s Morning Joe, when discussing the NYT piece.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-19/comparing-donald-trump-hitler-slippery-slope

Its insulting to every Jew on the planet and frankly demeans this section of the site, its sad and childish. :sad:

[Livia]

I never reported that post but it was removed.

You could have in your wording.made it clear you meant no one on.here,if you really did not.

Good for you that Adam is your friend, he is a good friend to have as indeed you can be too.
That does not alter the offensiveness of the comments you.raised again as to that post.

However last year taught me to keep peace as best as can be.
I accept now you did not mean me or others on here directly,which you have made clear in the above post.
I wish you well Livia.

I wish you well also. To be honest, I was upset to acknowledge that a five year friendship with what I thought was respect both ways, ended, and I never really knew what I had done. Water under the bridge.

[joeysteele]

:I wish you well also. To be honest, I was upset to acknowledge that a five year friendship with what I thought was respect both ways, ended, and I never really knew what I had done. Water under the bridge.

I still hold respect for you, I learned so much from you while at Uni and afterwards too.
I never forget things like that.

Ironically you guided me to be careful how I said things on here and not to appear to generalise.

Life is too short to hold grudges and really argue, time really does matter.

[Brillopad]

Adam made this thread only pointing out similarities of style and rhetoric.
Which a fair few have overall agreed with,myself included and I do think raised a valid issue as to these 2 men coming to near absolute power.

Since you raise it, your red nazi comment was directed at a whole body of people on a particular side of politics you have no time for.

This is merely a thread highlighting the similarities of divisiveness and confrontational style of just these 2 men as seen by threadmaker and his OP.
He is not saying all Republicans or those who vote for him are tarred with the same brush.
As you did when you termed 'those on the left', not a few,not some but 'those on the left',as being red Nazis.


Lol at the total hypocrisy on this thread. With regard to your last sentence what is the difference between those on the right being called bigots and racists by many on here but if someone makes a passing comment about those on the left that they find offensive there is an apparent meltdown.

Talk about dishing it out but not being able to take it.. Not you personally but I don' see you being so shocked or complaining about that.

[joeysteele]

Lol at the total hypocrisy on this thread. With regard to your last sentence what is the difference between those on the right being called bigots and racists by many on here but if someone makes a passing comment about those on the left that they find offensive there is an apparent meltdown.

Talk about dishing it out but not being able to take it.. Not you personally but I don' see you being so shocked or complaining about that.

Actually I do complain about it.
I have never ever supported any calling of the right racists.

Also too particularly when Nigel Farage and indeed others in UKIP are called racist I dispute that too and always have during my over 6 years on here.
Which I think most on here know that too.

So perhaps try to make sure if possible your facts are right before you nitpick at people.

Livia did not mean her statement the way it seemed and she is also someone who guided me not to jump in and generalise on here when I joined at 18.
I have endeavoured to follow that good advice ever since.

[Kizzy]

They have the same number of eyes, don't forget. That comparison is just about as valid as the rest of the "comparisons".

There was an explosion of indignation on here when I used the term "red Nazis" to describe some old school Labourites, a term that had been used widely in the press. Those same people think this is a fair comparison though.

I had a sig that was the ex PM waving...it looked a bit like a nazi salute..you asked for it to be removed, indignation? :/

[longstar]

trump has more similarities with Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan, than Hitler, Corbyn has more similarities with Fidel Castro and Mikhail Gorbachev than Pol Pot and Joseph Stalin,

[Brillopad]

trump has more similarities with Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan, than Hitler, Corbyn has more similarities with Fidel Castro and Mikhail Gorbachev than Pol Pot and Joseph Stalin,

Some people on here get some strange ideas. A thread created for effect I think - total rubbish of course.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Forget an outsider murdering him-Melania will probably do it. I've seen people evaluate their icy body language. He belittles her and she just looks sad and angry and confused. Plus Barron disrespects her. Insert the failed high five gif here

[user104658]

demeans this section of the site, its sad and childish. :sad:

:joker: ... ... from you, LT? Really? I mean ... ... Really?

[Livia]

I had a sig that was the ex PM waving...it looked a bit like a nazi salute..you asked for it to be removed, indignation? :/

It "looked a bit like a nazi salute"? You only posted it because it looked like a nazi salute! I did ask for it to be removed and when it was it was over for me. You're the one who has brought it up all this time later. Provocative.

[Kizzy]

It "looked a bit like a nazi salute"? You only posted it because it looked like a nazi salute! I did ask for it to be removed and when it was it was over for me. You're the one who has brought it up all this time later. Provocative.

I did yes, however it was just an innocent wave and my sig innocent satire, you chose to take offence to it...ergo I'm raising it to highlight your double standard here.

[Livia]

I did yes, however it was just an innocent wave and my sig innocent satire, you chose to take offence to it...ergo I'm raising it to highlight your double standard here.

Well, you are the expert when it comes to double standards, I'll give you that.


The fact is that Trump is nothing like Hitler. Cameron was nothing like Hitler. Only Hitler was like Hitler.

[Niamh.]

This house was like Hitler though tbf

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/03/29/article-1371091-0B62B82400000578-120_468x412.jpg

[Livia]

LOL... They should turn that house into a synagogue.

[Kizzy]

Well, you are the expert when it comes to double standards, I'll give you that.


The fact is that Trump is nothing like Hitler. Cameron was nothing like Hitler. Only Hitler was like Hitler.

I won't ask for an example to that knee jerk reaction.

You forgot that socialists are nothing like nazis.... you could edit and add it?
Actually don't bother, I'll just take it as red that's what you meant.

[y.winter]

As much as I dislike Trump, I think it's somewhat populist and OTT comparison. Leave it alone and be more matter of fact - blame him for the things he does, not for the things you would like to scare others. Sometimes it's pure demonising for nothing, getting carried away way too far.

[Kizzy]

I think an ideological comparison is apt, lets start listing the things he's done thus far in his presidency if you really want scary...

[Niamh.]

I think it's important to keep Hitler and his reign in our minds so we don't end up going down a similar path again ever.

[y.winter]

Abortions and genocide... Apples and oranges.

[Kizzy]

Abortions and genocide... Apples and oranges.

Did hitler, begin small? planting seeds, propaganda... everything has a beginning, does what trump has done thus far look to be the start of something good?

[Withano]

So many snowflakes in this thread. PC gone mad when comparisons to two world leaders cant be made.

[Ronald.]

Trump isn't that bad. He's quite funny. R.

[y.winter]

Yes, it doesn't look good. Still, I find it being facebook-like populism. There's no genocide in sight, America is far from that and won't let itself get to that point.

[Denver]

^^^

-Acts like Trump didnt blow up a city of 14,000 on his 1st day in charge-

[Kizzy]

So many snowflakes in this thread. PC gone mad when comparisons to two world leaders cant be made.

Well, this has been my argument all along... as on the thread regarding the lecturer, anyone particularly young people who voice a concern these days are immediately slapped down with these labels.

Any query made by anyone questioning anything from anyone in a position of 'authority' is mocked, regardless of how valid or fact based it may be.
The replies are becoming less and less explanatory (people are sick of experts) and more and more aggressive (attacks on whistleblowers)

These derogatory labels are nothing but a smokescreen.

[user104658]

Any query made by anyone questioning anything from anyone in a position of 'authority' is mocked, regardless of how valid or fact based it may be.
The replies are becoming less and less explanatory (people are sick of experts) and more and more aggressive (attacks on whistleblowers)

These derogatory labels are nothing but a smokescreen.

:joker: Shut up Kizzy, maybe once YOU'VE been elected president of the most powerful country in the world, then you will be able to have an opinion on Trump.

[Livia]

So many snowflakes in this thread. PC gone mad when comparisons to two world leaders cant be made.

Several times I've seen people cry Godwin's Law when Hitler is brought into a discussion. Not this time though?

[Withano]

Several times I've seen people cry Godwin's Law when Hitler is brought into a discussion. Not this time though?

I cant talk for everybody, my opinions on the original post are on the first page somewhere. this post that you quoted was paraphrasing one of the members who appear the most upset by the OP as an attempt to highlight that members hypocrisy.

[Livia]

I cant talk for everybody, my opinions on the original post are on the first page somewhere. this post that you quoted was paraphrasing one of the members who appear the most upset by the OP as an attempt to highlight that members hypocrisy.

We're getting further and further away from the point. Can't we just debate? You know... in the real sense of the word? It's not about showing people to be hypocrites or scoring points... no one gets the last word because everyone's opinion differs.

[Withano]

We're getting further and further away from the point. Can't we just debate? You know... in the real sense of the word? It's not about showing people to be hypocrites or scoring points... no one gets the last word because everyone's opinion differs.

How many points for sitting on the highest horse. Thats a good score you have there. Im jelly. Also brilliantly on point and very relevant to the debate. :clap1:

[Livia]

How many points for sitting on the highest horse. Thats a good score you have there. Im jelly. Also brilliantly on point and very relevant to the debate. :clap1:

Once again, I wasn't rude to you. What is your problem?

[Withano]

Once again, I wasn't rude to you. What is your problem?

I was going to cut and paste small parts of the post and explain why I found it rude.., but actually all of it seems rude to me. Maybe I read it in a different tone of voice than you intended.. But I'm leaning more towards the liklihood of you intending on being rude tbh.

[Livia]

I was going to cut and paste small parts of the post and explain why I found it rude.., but actually all of it seems rude to me. Maybe I read it in a different tone of voice than you intended.. But I'm leaning more towards the liklihood of you intending on being rude tbh.

Then you are mistaken. Maybe you don't know me well enough to know. My mistake I suppose. You are so defensive. There is no need. Anyhoo... I'm going to leave it for now. You're not on ignore, and I was not intentionally rude to you. Not at all.

[Kizzy]

We're getting further and further away from the point. Can't we just debate? You know... in the real sense of the word? It's not about showing people to be hypocrites or scoring points... no one gets the last word because everyone's opinion differs.

It is, it is exactly that... if you or indeed anyone contradicts themselves on any given topic, know I am coming for you.
How can you debate with someone exhibiting double standards? Is this an example of this Orwellian 'post truth era' 'alternative facts' 'newspeak' shenanigans I've been hearing about?

[Brillopad]

It is, it is exactly that... if you or indeed anyone contradicts themselves on any given topic, know I am coming for you.
How can you debate with someone exhibiting double standards? Is this an example of this Orwellian 'post truth era' 'alternative facts' 'newspeak' shenanigans I've been hearing about?

Like you've never contradicted yourself!

And You're setting yourself up as judge and jury. Your post is one big double standard!

[Livia]

It is, it is exactly that... if you or indeed anyone contradicts themselves on any given topic, know I am coming for you.
How can you debate with someone exhibiting double standards? Is this an example of this Orwellian 'post truth era' 'alternative facts' 'newspeak' shenanigans I've been hearing about?

What do you mean, you know I am coming for you? You're prone to a double standard or two yourself, you know. You and I do not get on, we both know that, so it's cynical of you once again to jump in when I wasn't even talking to you. Withano is more than capable of replying if he feels it necessary. I don't want an argument with you, I don't even really want to talk to you so please stop trying to drag me into a discourse.

[Kizzy]

What do you mean, you know I am coming for you? You're prone to a double standard or two yourself, you know. You and I do not get on, we both know that, so it's cynical of you once again to jump in when I wasn't even talking to you. Withano is more than capable of replying if he feels it necessary. I don't want an argument with you, I don't even really want to talk to you so please stop trying to drag me into a discourse.

Not you personally, or in the literal sense ... obv, just that I will be highlighting it as I have in this thread for instance.
I'm not aware of any double standard from myself, you will be sure to remind me if I have I'll be happy to clarify.
My response to you though not directed to me personally was pertinent to the discussion, I felt it warranted.

This is the debates section, unless you use the ignore function you cannot control who responds to your comments.
I don't want an argument either I want a fair and reasoned debate, If yourself or anyone appear to be establishing a benchmark for others that they themselves can't meet then I'm in my rights to voice that as a concern.