"you're not a mum, and that's your problem"

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

was this about the miscarriage :umm2:

nicola is scum

[Glenn-C]

Bye that's disgusting

[Shaun]

If she's unaware of that then it's still a pretty callous comment. As if being a mother has made Nicola any more wise.

[Cal.]

If she knew about the stillbirth she wouldn't have said that for sure.

[Cherie]

Pretty low

[Rob!]

There's no defence there, the expression on her face and the tone of her voice shows that she meant to be as hurtful as possible then

[UserSince2005]

Scummy bitch, nicola showing her true colours

[Kazanne]

Nicola would have said it,she does not care what she says to hurt people,I go back again to the year aaron won and the vile stuff that came from her mouth, and i am sure she knows the whole of the UK seem to know.

[Denver]

She is low life pond scum

[Jase.]

The fact she has fans here is rancid. A truly revolting woman :umm2:

[Jake.]

she's disgusting

[Marsh.]

She is despicable revolting human being.

[LaLaLand]

Abolutely vile. The real Nicola we all know now coming out. Horrible cow

[Saph]

who did she say that too

[Niamh.]

who did she say that too
Kim

[Rob!]

Plus, seeing as that argument between Stacy and Jessica had stemmed from what Kim had been through, presumably Kim has spoken about it in there so Nicola must know.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

who did she say that too

kim on the preview bit at the start of the show

and after it she said "if you wanna go low, i'll go lower" or something

so i think she was defs talking about the stillbirth :worry:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

nicola and her fans are cancelled

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's the worst blow a woman can make to another human woman

I'm speechless

[Samm]

she didn't know, I didn't even know, stop lying fat

[Marsh.]

she didn't know, I didn't even know, stop lying fat

Kim has spoken about it in the house, so yes she did know.


Perma-ban for Samm please.

[Denver]

she didn't know, I didn't even know, stop lying fat

Jessica and Stacy argued over the fact last week

[Pete.]

Let's wait to watch in context

[Kazanne]

Let's wait to watch in context

We've seen it Nicolas nasty sneer said it all but watch it in a minute

[Samm]

http://images.dailystar.co.uk/dynamic/140/photos/419000/91419.jpg

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

scum

[Samm]

clonk clonk

http://images.dailystar.co.uk/dynamic/140/photos/419000/91419.jpg

[Jamie89]

She could have been implying that Kim is bitter/jealous about not being a mum which is still pretty vile, but if she was referring to the miscarriage then she's absolutely disgusting

[Babayaro.]

I've never liked her, she has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. Vile, nasty piece of work.

[Gusto Brunt]

If she's unaware of that then it's still a pretty callous comment. As if being a mother has made Nicola any more wise.

She has to be aware of it, because she knew Kim doesn't have children.

[Denver]

She can hardly talk when she didnt want her kids anyway

[joeysteele]

Nicola would have said it,she does not care what she says to hurt people,I go back again to the year aaron won and the vile stuff that came from her mouth, and i am sure she knows the whole of the UK seem to know.

She would know and she did say if Kim went low,she could go lower and duly did so.

Horrible,horrible truly.nasty in all ways.
Really hope she is out.

[Jamie89]

She has to be aware of it, because she knew Kim doesn't have children.

That's a good point.

It's interesting as well that straight after saying it, she started saying 'don't talk to me I don't want to talk anymore' or something, even though she'd been hounding Kim to talk about it right up until that point, and the look on her face after she said it too, it's like she knew she'd crossed a line with it.

[rusticgal]

If she knew about the stillbirth she wouldn't have said that for sure.


Well know it or not...it was a cruel and callous thing to say... I don't know anything about Kim...but to say they to another woman and not know her past is wicked beyond belief. What a ****ing bitch...

[sampvt]

the biggest brain fart any woman could muster, that was bad, especially to someone who lost her baby.

[rusticgal]

That's a good point.

It's interesting as well that straight after saying it, she started saying 'don't talk to me I don't want to talk anymore' or something, even though she'd been hounding Kim to talk about it right up until that point, and the look on her face after she said it too, it's like she knew she'd crossed a line with it.


She knew she had crossed the line..but to say "if you hit below the belt I will hit lower" showed no remorse in what she had said...but then that's Nicola for you..pure evil.

[Niamh.]

Nicolas true colours showing again, and her poor me act earlier claiming she's never nasty to anyone lol and then the ones who made her feel bad she's all over

[Gusto Brunt]

That's a good point.

It's interesting as well that straight after saying it, she started saying 'don't talk to me I don't want to talk anymore' or something, even though she'd been hounding Kim to talk about it right up until that point, and the look on her face after she said it too, it's like she knew she'd crossed a line with it.

Kim took that very low blow well. Imagine if Kim had said it. I think Nicola would have ran at Kim with a bread knife.:shocked:

[power2thepeople]

We know it won't happen but it would be just if Emma dragged her in her eviction interview for it. Every word is rancid. Maybe she needs food for thought...the last few episodes of Corrie aired into the house. But why put Kim through it. She knew. Her contorted twisted face as she spat the words out. Vicious bitch.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Kim buried her own baby due to social pressure. Take a minute to contemplate that

[Jamie89]

Kim took that very low blow well. Imagine if Kim had said it. I think Nicola would have ran at Kim with a bread knife.:shocked:

She took it really well, it must be such a painful thing to think about never mind have it thrown at you in an argument. I actually think it's one of the worst things that's ever been said to someone on Big Brother.

[Niamh.]

She took it really well, it must be such a painful thing to think about never mind have it thrown at you in an argument. I actually think it's one of the worst things that's ever been said to someone on Big Brother.

Yeah I agree

[Gusto Brunt]

She took it really well, it must be such a painful thing to think about never mind have it thrown at you in an argument. I actually think it's one of the worst things that's ever been said to someone on Big Brother.

Yes. Very nasty. :(

[Niamh.]

Kim buried her own baby due to social pressure. Take a minute to contemplate that

It's horrific

[Denver]

Kim buried her own baby due to social pressure. Take a minute to contemplate that

it was 50 to 60 years ago you better then anyone should know times were different then

[Niamh.]

it was 50 to 60 years ago you better then anyone should know times were different then

I think LT was sympathising with her situation? or else I picked him up wrong but I don't think so?

[T*]

vile

[Denver]

I think LT was sympathising with her situation? or else I picked him up wrong but I don't think so?

Another thread made me think he was on Nicola's side

[Crimson Dynamo]

it was 50 to 60 years ago you better then anyone should know times were different then

She still remembers it like it was yesterday

[Crimson Dynamo]

I can't Imagine the pain she went through I really can't

[Denver]

She still remembers it like it was yesterday

Well of course she would

[The Penguin]

I don't see how being a mother is some type of achievement. Roaches have kids. Kim actually became famous for a skill.

[Jake.]

it's a very sad thing Kim went through & I wouldn't wish it upon anybody

[Denver]

As i said Nicola cant act like the worlds greatest mother when she never wanted kids they were just to trap a man for his money

[erinp5]

Nicola McLean ‏@NicolaMcLean 19m19 minutes ago

She'll be devastated when she gets out of the house and finds out about what Kim went through.

[Epic.]

I love Nicola as a TV character, but what a vile bitch.

[Niamh.]

Another thread made me think he was on Nicola's side

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=9174577

[Firewire]

Never knew about Kim's miscarriage and it's very that she's gone through it, must've been totally devastating for her and can't imagine what she went through at the time

It's a low blow from Nicola if she did know about the miscarriage and I hope she redeems herself from it. It's a shame as she was my favourite.

[Niamh.]

Nicola McLean ‏@NicolaMcLean 19m19 minutes ago

She'll be devastated when she gets out of the house and finds out about what Kim went through.

When she's told by her PR to pretend she never knew*

[Jake.]

Never knew about Kim's miscarriage and it's very that she's gone through it, must've been totally devastating for her and can't imagine what she went through at the time

It's a low blow from Nicola if she did know about the miscarriage and I hope she redeems herself from it. It's a shame as she was my favourite.

If she did know about the miscarriage, then she can't redeem herself from it. She just can't.

[Denver]

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=9174577

My bad i didnt see that comment and misread it

[Braden]

It was just callous and mean.

Kim hasn't acted saintly towards Nicola, but her claims have been proven to be 100% right. Nicola is a bad egg, and Kim saw straight through her ****-stirring and attention-seeking.

[Niamh.]

If she did know about the miscarriage, then she can't redeem herself from it. She just can't.
of course she will claim she didn't know but the way she said it, it seemed to me like she did. Why else would she proudly state how low she was going? Horrible witch

[EspeonBB]

It was truly a disgusting comment to make if Nicola did know about the miscarriage.

[Firewire]

If she did know about the miscarriage, then she can't redeem herself from it. She just can't.

No I know I meant if she didn't know

She'll deny knowing anyway so it's hard to know whether she really did know

[rusticgal]

Nicola McLean ‏@NicolaMcLean 19m19 minutes ago

She'll be devastated when she gets out of the house and finds out about what Kim went through.

Well maybe the bitch needs to think before she speaks. After she said it she just went on to justify her comment by saying "you go low I'll go lower"..so she knew she hit below the belt and showed no signs of regret on what she had just said.

[Kazanne]

Another thread made me think he was on Nicola's side

No he's definately not,lol

[Daniel-X]

Never knew about Kim's miscarriage and it's very that she's gone through it, must've been totally devastating for her and can't imagine what she went through at the time

It's a low blow from Nicola if she did know about the miscarriage and I hope she redeems herself from it. It's a shame as she was my favourite.

All of this really.

[Epic.]

Nicola DID know about the miscarriage, I guarantee you. Let's not forget

"You're not a mum and that's YOUR problem. And I can go even lower."

That blatantly confirms she knew

[Nancy.]

If she knew about the stillbirth she wouldn't have said that for sure.

Oh FFS. WAKE UP! Nicole would say anything. That fact that she said "I'll go LOWER" indicated she knew what she was talking about.

[joeysteele]

of course she will claim she didn't know but the way she said it, it seemed to me like she did. Why else would she proudly state how low she was going? Horrible witch

Absolutely she did.
Many Women choose not to be a Parent so normally it may not be a comment that would likely hurt.

However if it was known a child had been lost,then going low on that issue would hurt.
I feel sure as to any fallout on this that BB's line will be Nicola didn't know.

I believe she does know and went really low.in fact Nicola went into the deepest gutter to go really low tonight.

[Niamh.]

Oh FFS. WAKE UP! Nicole would say anything. That fact that she said "I'll go LOWER" indicated she knew what she was talking about.

Exactly how would she know that was a low comment if she didn't know what happened, a lot of women choose not to have kids so it wouldn't be a low comment to just any woman without kids

[rusticgal]

It was truly a disgusting comment to make if Nicola did know about the miscarriage.


But it's a disgusting comment to make about any woman unless you knew that she just never wanted children.
So many women can't have children who truly want them...and I can only imagine the trauma of that.

[power2thepeople]

I could have my female nemesis in front of me in an argument who is past child bearing age. I may or may not know she had ever suffered a stillbirth but I could NEVER stoop that low considering I'm a mother myself. It's rock bottom. I hope to god her kids truly are not subjected to coverage or newspaper front pages or playground gossip. She's a disgrace of a woman. Her PR can scramble it all they want. She spat venom.

[Nancy.]

Exactly how would she know that was a low comment if she didn't know what happened, a lot of women choose not to have kids so it wouldn't be a low comment to just any woman without kids

Agree!

[Babayaro.]

If I was BB i'd call her into the diary room. Not for a warning, just a talking to. People have been cautioned for a lot less.

[Marsh.]

If I was BB i'd call her into the diary room. Not for a warning, just a talking to. People have been cautioned for a lot less.

The bitch needs a hard smack across the face at the very least.

[Firewire]

If I was BB i'd call her into the diary room. Not for a warning, just a talking to. People have been cautioned for a lot less.

In that case James C should be cautioned for making a threatening comment about Spencer

[T*]

actually done with her though i liked her but she sucked up to speidi and she's done this ****
hope you go next bitch

[Denver]

In that case James C should be cautioned for making a threatening comment about Spencer

Can we not try and make of Nicole is a saint and Cosmo is the devil

[Firewire]

Can we not try and make of Nicole is a saint and Cosmo is the devil

Is that what I'm really trying to achieve here?

[Jamie89]

I should have known she was going to be awful from launch when she dragged poor Brian Dowling :nono:

[Niamh.]

I should have known she was going to be awful from launch when she dragged poor Brian Dowling :nono:

:worship:

[Marsh.]

I should have known she was going to be awful from launch when she dragged poor Brian Dowling :nono:

Brian's treatment of her finally justified??? :clap2:

[LukeB]

I should have known she was going to be awful from launch when she dragged poor Brian Dowling :nono:

She stole the episode with that :fan:

[T*]

actually done with her though i liked her but she sucked up to speidi and she's done this ****
hope you go next bitch

this reaction is if she knows about it but idk what's happened but obviously i've lost a lot of respect for her
i just think that if someone else knows about her past there's no stopping people having private convos and it getting edited out or if some aren't letting on to what they know

[T*]

it just seems too coincidental :/

[Tom4784]

Nicole is cancelled, vile woman.

[longstar]

Nicola was always a twisted bitter woman, I seen her on Im a celeb, and all she did was moan and single out David van day and Timmy Mallet, and I remember Joe swash losing his cool over her alienating of those two guys.

[andybigbro]

I was shocked when I heard this. Disgusting :bored:

[andybigbro]

I should have known she was going to be awful from launch when she dragged poor Brian Dowling :nono:

I wanna see the interview again. I don't remember Brian being mean to her :laugh:

[azi]

Trash get her out!

[Nollaig]

Nicola should be ashamed of herself, after what she said to Kim. That was a disgusting thing to say. She is vile.

[camertone]

of course nicola knew, that's why she said she can go lower.

[JayBlaze]

Never understood why women use the "you're not a mum" argument as though it's some kind of black eye for a woman not to have children

[jennyjuniper]

Seeing as Nicola makes it her business to know everything, I'm assuming she DID know. If so, she's despicable. As if the fact of just being a mum makes you a better person. The world is teeming with lousy mothers.

[warrenhill]

A vile wannabe.......:fist:

[Jamie89]

I wanna see the interview again. I don't remember Brian being mean to her :laugh:

I've never seen it so I'm really curious what happened :laugh: Must have been bad for her to still be angry about it all these years later

[user104658]

It's a bottom of the barrel "insult" to use against someone who is at the point where it's no longer a possibility, regardless of what you know about their past. If I'm honest, I very much doubt she does know the exact specifics of what happened to Kim, but it doesn't really matter. If an elderly person has no kids and you don't KNOW the reason, you shouldn't go there. Stillbirth aside, there are all sorts of potentially painful reasons there... she could have had cancer when she was young and had a hysterectomy. She could have just been infertile and trying for children for years unsuccessfully and had a relationship break down over it. If you don't KNOW for a fact that the reason someone isn't a parent is through choice... making an assumption is a very stupid thing to do.

[Niamh.]

It's a bottom of the barrel "insult" to use against someone who is at the point where it's no longer a possibility, regardless of what you know about their past. If I'm honest, I very much doubt she does know the exact specifics of what happened to Kim, but it doesn't really matter. If an elderly person has no kids and you don't KNOW the reason, you shouldn't go there. Stillbirth aside, there are all sorts of potentially painful reasons there... she could have had cancer when she was young and had a hysterectomy. She could have just been infertile and trying for children for years unsuccessfully and had a relationship break down over it. If you don't KNOW for a fact that the reason someone isn't a parent is through choice... making an assumption is a very stupid thing to do.

Well, even if she didn't know (which I have my doubts about) She was obviously banking on their being an unfortunate reason for her not being a mother otherwise why would she say she was "going low" if Kim had just chosen not to have children it wouldn't be a low comment to make

[user104658]

Well, even if she didn't know (which I have my doubts about) She was obviously banking on their being an unfortunate reason for her not being a mother otherwise why would she say she was "going low" if Kim had just chosen not to have children it wouldn't be a low comment to make

I think some people assume that at the end of the day "everyone" wishes they had a family... a lot of elderly people who chose never to start a family (or time just got away from them and it never happened) do have regrets about it. Of course there are many people who do simply decide not to have children and never regret it; my aunt (just turned 70) never had kids and I don't think she has any issue with it. Her and my sister spend a lot of time together (as they both live on an island with an off season population of < 2000) but I don't think she regrets not having her own kids, at all.

However... I can see someone like Nicola not understanding that and believing that it's a hurtful thing to say to ANYONE who never had children. She is self-obsessed and she likes the fact that she is a mum, therefore, she assumes that EVERYONE would like to be a mum.