"Bite your ****ing nose off"

[MrWong]

Violent ****er eh.

How nice.

[MrWong]

Then tries to say he's a changed man 30 mins later :joker:

[Vanessa]

He's a game player, desperate to win. Sees Speidi as his main competition.

[Cherie]

The way people in there are kissing his ass is incredible :joker:

Though I felt Coleen might have been pushing him to lose his rag, she won't want to come 2nd twice :omgno:

[MrWong]

The way people in there are kissing his ass is incredible :joker:

Though I felt Coleen might have been pushing him to lose his rag, she won't want to come 2nd twice :omgno:

:hehe:

Genuinely worried for Spencers safety tbh :worry:

[Gusto Brunt]

Scary.

[Patricia4]

This is a guy that used to be violent but not anymore when he met his wife BUT he will bite his nose off and there will be blood.

What a great old guy he is.

[Drew.]

He's a game player, desperate to win. Sees Speidi as his main competition.

I doubt he's ever watched a reality TV show like this in his life, but sure, he's got all the game playing tricks up his sleeve

[Babayaro.]

Yup, i'm pretty sure he meant that he would literally bite their nose off...

The reach.

[Cherie]

This is a guy that used to be violent but not anymore when he met his wife BUT he will bite his nose off and there will be blood.

What a great old guy he is.



A pure gent apparently :hee:

[Black Dagger]

They're reaching, your honour.

[Kazanne]

PMSL that people even think he meant that,LOL,LOL

[Kazanne]

They're reaching, your honour.

Sure are :laugh::laugh:

[Cherie]

I doubt he's ever watched a reality TV show like this in his life, but sure, he's got all the game playing tricks up his sleeve

He was in BOTs in the summer as he is friends with James Whale, I very much doubt he went in without doing his research

[MrWong]

Yup, i'm pretty sure he meant that he would literally bite their nose off...

The reach.

No need to reach. He admitted that he was a violent bastard.

.... He's a changed man now, apparently.

[Vanessa]

He was in BOTs in the summer as he is friends with James Whale, I very much doubt he went in without doing his research

This! And he would know that Speidi came second on their first stint.

[Beso]

He's a game player, desperate to win. Sees Speidi as his main competition.

He's saving the biggest nose till last hopefully:joker:

[Drew.]

He was in BOTs in the summer as he is friends with James Whale, I very much doubt he went in without doing his research

You get about 5 minutes worth of clips and 55 minutes of guests talking about ****e so i'm not sure he came away with much knowledge of the show

[Jamie89]

No need to reach. He admitted that he was a violent bastard.

.... He's a changed man now, apparently.

Good for him that he turned his life around, I don't think it should be used against him just because he made a flippant comment that likely had no meaning behind it. I don't think he was being serious at all when he said it.

[Cherie]

You get about 5 minutes worth of clips and 55 minutes of guests talking about ****e so i'm not sure he came away with much knowledge of the show

You don't think James Whale might have had a chat with him about it? Any serious actor reads the script and researchs, unless you are saying he saw pound signs and went solely for the cash, what a great winner he would be :idc:

[MrWong]

Good for him that he turned his life around, I don't think it should be used against him just because he made a flippant comment that likely had no meaning behind it. I don't think he was being serious at all when he said it.

You might be right but he did say that he was more likely to do it outside of the house, which was odd if violence is in his past.

[Cherie]

They're reaching, your honour.

He admitted he had a violent past, but yeah gloss over it

[Amy Jade]

I doubt he's ever watched a reality TV show like this in his life, but sure, he's got all the game playing tricks up his sleeve

He had. He was on BOTS last year and said he watches snd went on to support his friend James Whale.

[Kazanne]

Good for him that he turned his life around, I don't think it should be used against him just because he made a flippant comment that likely had no meaning behind it. I don't think he was being serious at all when he said it.

Of course he wasn't,how many times have we all said we'de kill someone without meaning it,people are being silly now.

[Drew.]

He had. He was on BOTS last year and said he watches snd went on to support his friend James Whale.

I still doubt a casual viewer who watched a few episodes would have fully digested what was going on and has gone into this with a game plan. A few episodes and and some advice could have never prepared him for what he's experienced these past few weeks

[Babayaro.]

This is reminding me of the Jason witch-hunt from last year lmao. Can't say i'm surprised lol.

[Black Dagger]

He admitted he had a violent past, but yeah gloss over it

Ergo. Past, history. People can change.

[Kazanne]

He admitted he had a violent past, but yeah gloss over it

he said he was in a bad place and not a nice person until he met his wife,kudos to him for turning his life around and even more so when his son came along,it happens to lots of people ,good for him I say.

[Amy Jade]

I still doubt a casual viewer who watched a few episodes would have fully digested what was going on and has gone into this with a game plan. A few episodes and and some advice could have never prepared him for what he's experienced these past few weeks

He's friends with a previous housemate. Im pretty sure he will have had a few conversations with James about the show and Cherie makes a very interesting point - as an actor surely im confident he does his research - he knew Speidi were popular last time as he called them the houses biggest threat.

[EspeonBB]

People taking this seriously :joker:

[smudgie]

Strewth, I had a violent past, I didn't kill anyone.
He might have smashed a few doors or put his fist through a wall for all we know:shrug:

[Amy Jade]

Ergo. Past, history. People can change.

Yes because you gave Speidi a chance when they came back. 4 years after the last time you saw them.

[Cherie]

he said he was in a bad place and not a nice person until he met his wife,kudos to him for turning his life around and even more so when his son came along,it happens to lots of people ,good for him I say.

After the hoo har on here over Spencer calling him a piece of ****, it's a bit rich isn't it ...name calling v violent past ..interesting what can be excused even if it is in the past

[Cherie]

Yes because you gave Speidi a chance when they came back. 4 years after the last time you saw them.

Ouch ....

[LaLaLand]

Mr. Renton finally coming oot!

[Babayaro.]

People taking this seriously :joker:

It's literally a figure of speech too lol. Imagine actually biting someone's nose off :joker:

[Cherie]

He's friends with a previous housemate. Im pretty sure he will have had a few conversations with James about the show and Cherie makes a very interesting point - as an actor surely im confident he does his research - he knew Speidi were popular last time as he called them the houses biggest threat.

Great point Amy, he didn't pull that one out of nowhere

[Drew.]

He's friends with a previous housemate. Im pretty sure he will have had a few conversations with James about the show and Cherie makes a very interesting point - as an actor surely im confident he does his research - he knew Speidi were popular last time as he called them the houses biggest threat.

Yes but how can you prepare for something like this when hes probably never experienced being in an enviroment like this and with these types of people? You couldn't make up some of the stuff which has happened this series. Labeling people game players is overused now. I usually credit people when they play the game but apart from that vote he gave Speidi which was a spare of the moment vote he's not really done anything to suggest hes one.

[Cherie]

It's literally a figure of speech too lol. Imagine actually biting someone's nose off :joker:

So is calling someone a piece of ****, but there is a 10 page thread of outrage on it :laugh:

[sampvt]

i bit a guys cheek in a fight once. as soon as the green mist descends its anything goes especially if there are 3 of them. **** happens and he comes from a really hard area, people change, i did.

[Kazanne]

After the hoo har on here over Spencer calling him a piece of ****, it's a bit rich isn't it ...name calling v violent past ..interesting what can be excused even if it is in the past

I find it hilarious that some people liked him until he nominated Spiedi , now he is being called all sorts when he is the same guy they liked before:joker: who has he called names ? and he certainly hasn't called anyone a piece of ****.

[Cherie]

I find it hilarious that some people liked him until he nominated Spiedi , now he is being called all sorts when he is the same guy they liked before:joker: who has he called names ? and he certainly hasn't called anyone a piece of ****.

Read what I wrote Kazanne :hmph:

[Kazanne]

So is calling someone a piece of ****, but there is a 10 page thread of outrage on it :laugh:

Sometimes it's not what you say,but how you say it,Spiedi said it with malice (you know this) and James actually laughed,when he said bite his nose off,infact I would rather have that said about me than being called a piece of ****.:laugh:

[Black Dagger]

Yes because you gave Speidi a chance when they came back. 4 years after the last time you saw them.

I was most excited about Speidi going back in as the all stars and they were my favourite in CBB11, what on earth are you going on about. Hardly my fault they were anonymous half the series and now I don't find their antics of just slating Cosmo as interesting x

[Kazanne]

Read what I wrote Kazanne :hmph:

:laugh::laugh: What's that face for ?:laugh:

[Shaun]

People are only upset because Heidi and Spencer are the sort of people who've spent $40,000 on their noses.

[Amy Jade]

Yes but how can you prepare for something like this when hes probably never experienced being in an enviroment like this and with these types of people? You couldn't make up some of the stuff which has happened this series. Labeling people game players is overused now. I usually credit people when they play the game but apart from that vote he gave Speidi which was a spare of the moment vote he's not really done anything to suggest hes one.

I disagree.

I think he's done his research and knows the public rallied behind an over-the-top wind up last CBB in Bear and he knows they were popular last time, he's said as much by proclaiming them the house threat. If he's never seen the show before as you say how did he know Heidi and Spencer when he saw them on launch? A big fan of The Hills?

I also don't believe his eternal nomination was an accident. He knew Jedward were popular so that would have been a wasted vote and Kim got massive boos.

[MrWong]

Of course he wasn't,how many times have we all said we'de kill someone without meaning it,people are being silly now.

It wasn't...

":fist: Ooh ill kill him"

He said what he'd do outside... away from BB. :worry:

[Kazanne]

It wasn't...

":fist: Ooh ill kill him"

He said what he'd do outside... away from BB. :worry:

They were laughing:shrug:

[Cherie]

Sometimes it's not what you say,but how you say it,Spiedi said it with malice (you know this) and James actually laughed,when he said bite his nose off,infact I would rather have that said about me than being called a piece of ****.:laugh:

What Spencer actually said was "I liked the piece of ****" it was reported on here wrongly :hmph:

[Drew.]

I disagree.

I think he's done his research and knows the public rallied behind an over-the-top wind up last CBB in Bear and he knows they were popular last time, he's said as much by proclaiming them the house threat. If he's never seen the show before as you say how did he know Heidi and Spencer when he saw them on launch? A big fan of The Hills?

I also don't believe his eternal nomination was an accident. He knew Jedward were popular so that would have been a wasted vote and Kim got massive boos.

They pretty much all knew who was who, most of them were leaked days before the launch and if thats how he found out who they were then i'd call that being curious otherwise they might as well all be game players. And the whole thing about Speidi being his biggest threat, they're always banging on about being game players and at the start of the series Cosmo was told on a few occasions what those two are all about when housemates were getting to know each other.

[MrWong]

I hope none of you James C stans have taken a housemate literally/seriously (whatever the excuse is) lately. :idc:

[Amy Jade]

Speidi calls James a piece of **** = tibb is outraged

Admitted ex thug James says he'll physically harm speidi = harmless (its all in the past) etc

https://adderallandcomplimentsdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/tumblr_o2o4jfczbi1qk08n1o1_500.gif?w=620

[Black Dagger]

He's clearly not going to pretend they're a piece of toast and attack them with his gnashers though is he.

[Cherie]

He's clearly not going to pretend they're a piece of toast and attack them with his gnashers though is he.

:joker:, he might smother them with his grey cardy

[Jamie89]

Speidi calls James a piece of **** = tibb is outraged

Admitted ex thug James says he'll physically harm speidi = harmless (its all in the past) etc

https://adderallandcomplimentsdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/tumblr_o2o4jfczbi1qk08n1o1_500.gif?w=620

I think that's important though. He's 68 and whatever happened in his past (we don't really know what he's referring to or how bad he was), he's moved on from it and has been able to better himself and that shows massive strength of character. Too many people stay on the wrong path and spiral downwards, but I do think people can reform. So it's not judging him on who he is now, whereas with Spencer, people are judging him on who he is now, so it's a very different comparison (although personally I love Spencer and his comments about James didn't offend me). It'd be different if I thought James was actually threatening them or being serious but it didn't come across like he was to me.

[Babayaro.]

I disagree.

I think he's done his research and knows the public rallied behind an over-the-top wind up last CBB in Bear and he knows they were popular last time, he's said as much by proclaiming them the house threat. If he's never seen the show before as you say how did he know Heidi and Spencer when he saw them on launch? A big fan of The Hills?

I also don't believe his eternal nomination was an accident. He knew Jedward were popular so that would have been a wasted vote and Kim got massive boos.
I get where you're coming from but I honestly don't think it's that deep.

Sure, there's no doubt he probably did his research before going on the show, and what with celebrities knowing who else is going in the house before it has actually begun, I would imagine he looked back specifically at the all-star's series.

Touching on what Drew said, James would have went into the house knowing he would have to play the game at some point, but I don't think he had an out and out game plan. If he did, then he has played an absolute blinder, as the only time he has actually showed signs of game playing was the other night when he gave Speidi the eternal nomination.

Also, an important thing to take notice of is that he has only ever 'played the game' when put in a situation that requires him to. Never have you seen him go to the diary room and tell BB he's going to this or going to do that. Him and Jason from BB17 are very similar housemates IMO.

[Kazanne]

I think that's important though. He's 68 and whatever happened in his past (we don't really know what he's referring to or how bad he was), he's moved on from it and has been able to better himself and that shows massive strength of character. Too many people stay on the wrong path and spiral downwards, but I do think people can reform. So it's not judging him on who he is now, whereas with Spencer, people are judging him on who he is now, so it's a very different comparison (although personally I love Spencer and his comments about James didn't offend me). It'd be different if I thought James was actually threatening them or being serious but it didn't come across like he was to me.

:clap1::clap1:

[MrWong]

He should be hauled in to the diary room for a talking to.

[Jack_]

I hope none of you James C stans have taken a housemate literally/seriously (whatever the excuse is) lately. :idc:

:joker: happens on this forum every single day

People were calling Spencer pathetic and petty for saying Nicola was gonna be blocked on all social media FFS...how can anyone take that seriously, he was clearly being overdramatic for effect

[MrWong]

C - I did really want you to tell them off yesterday
J - I don't see any point.
C - Just for me.
J - They're playing a game.
C - Absolutely but i thought the way they were yesterday was just so bad.
J - It was but it's in here. Outside, absolutely. I'll maybe do more than would be normal.
C - Hahahahahaha The only reason i'm saying that is because I thought...
J - Bite your ****ing nose off.
C - If they were gonna listen it would be to you.
J - Nah, they're playing a game.


Haul him in to the diary room for a warning. :fist:

[RichardG]

if he has a gameplan and has tricked everyone into believing he's a nice calm old man then good for him, it is a game show after all

[MrWong]

if he has a gameplan and has tricked everyone into believing he's a nice calm old man then good for him, it is a game show after all

Well he hasn't tricked me with his act. He's a violent ****er for sure.

[sampvt]

FFS Spencer gets a negative comment and the forum goes into melt down in order to crucify a pensioner over a throw away comment. FGS Spencer is a reality thug and he gets away with murder, where is the correlation in all of this. Pathetic.

Id be here ALL WEEK if I reported everything spencer said over the time hes been on.

[MrWong]

FFS Spencer gets a negative comment and the forum goes into melt down in order to crucify a pensioner over a throw away comment. FGS Spencer is a reality thug and he gets away with murder, where is the correlation in all of this. Pathetic.

Id be here ALL WEEK if I reported everything spencer said over the time hes been on.

Threats are against the rules :nono:

I hope security are on stand by just in case the thug lashes out.

[user104658]

Standard old Scottish man patter tbqfh. Sounds like an average Monday morning :joker:. Old blokes pinning their friend of 40 years up against the football coupon dispenser screaming "D'you WANT to ****ing die????" :joker:. Ahh... good times :flutter:.

[Babayaro.]

Well he hasn't tricked me with his act. He's a violent ****er for sure.
When has he been violent?

[Cherie]

Standard old Scottish man patter tbqfh. Sounds like an average Monday morning :joker:. Old blokes pinning their friend of 40 years up against the football coupon dispenser screaming "D'you WANT to ****ing die????" :joker:. Ahh... good times :flutter:.

I thought LT was better than than :bored:

[user104658]

I thought LT was better than than :bored:

Shhhh... no you didn't. :nono:

[MrWong]

When has he been violent?

In his past. Or so he says.

His convo with Coleen suggests otherwise.

[MrWong]

I thought LT was better than than :bored:

:laugh:

[Northern Monkey]

Come on people!Let's all just take a step back and take a minute to let common sense prevail:laugh:
Has everyone in here led really sheltered lives or are we just being silly because BB on?
I could'nt even count the times i've told someone 'I'll rip your ****ing head off you ****'
It doesn't mean that i am actually literally gonna tear somebodies head from their shoulders:joker:
We've all got pasts and many people change for the better.James C has done nothing but act with decorum and manners in the BB house.He has'nt even had an argument or said a nasty word to anyone.He has'nt touched anyone.
Take Austin who kicked and stuck his finger between a man arse cheeks and does'nt even get a warning and people want James C dragged over hot coals for an obviously non literal comment.

[MrWong]

Come on people!Let's all just take a step back and take a minute to let common sense prevail:laugh:
Has everyone in here led really sheltered lives or are we just being silly because BB on?
I could'nt even count the times i've told someone 'I'll rip your ****ing head off you ****'
It doesn't mean that i am actually literally gonna tear somebodies head from their shoulders:joker:
We've all got pasts and many people change for the better.James C has done nothing but act with decorum and manners in the BB house.He has'nt even had an argument or said a nasty word to anyone.He has'nt touched anyone.
Take Austin who kicked and stuck his finger between a man arse cheeks and does'nt even get a warning and people want James C dragged over hot coals for an obviously non literal comment.

He didn't just say "I'll bite your ****ing nose off"

He said "It was but it's in here. Outside, absolutely. I'll maybe do more than would be normal."

So the 'in the past' excuse doesn't work.

As for Austin, I said at the time that he deserved a warning at the very least.

[Robodog]

He didn't just say "I'll bite your ****ing nose off"

He said "It was but it's in here. Outside, absolutely. I'll maybe do more than would be normal."

So the 'in the past' excuse doesn't work.

As for Austin, I said at the time that he deserved a warning at the very least.

He


was




joking




!

[Babayaro.]

In his past. Or so he says.

His convo with Coleen suggests otherwise.

I rest my case

[thesheriff443]

What I took from last night is, he is biting his tongue and playing the game,
Outside the house he would be putting people in their place but does not want to show that side of his personality in the house.

Our we seeing the real James c or him acting, I think ts an act, could he of stoped some of the confrontations by stepping in as the house dad?, yes he could but that would mean having an opinion.

[Kazanne]

He didn't just say "I'll bite your ****ing nose off"

He said "It was but it's in here. Outside, absolutely. I'll maybe do more than would be normal."

So the 'in the past' excuse doesn't work.

As for Austin, I said at the time that he deserved a warning at the very least.

Stop making it sound worse than it was just because you don't like him,Coleen and him were smiling and laughed at one point:shrug:

[user104658]

I could'nt even count the times i've told someone 'I'll rip your ****ing head off you ****'

:worry:

Classless *****.

[user104658]

What I took from last night is, he is biting his tongue and playing the game,
Outside the house he would be putting people in their place but does not want to show that side of his personality in the house.

Our we seeing the real James c or him acting, I think ts an act, could he of stoped some of the confrontations by stepping in as the house dad?, yes he could but that would mean having an opinion.

I think it probably is a bit of an act or, at least, holding back. I don't however think he would get physical with anyone. But I think he is biting his tongue, plenty.

[Kazanne]

Come on people!Let's all just take a step back and take a minute to let common sense prevail:laugh:
Has everyone in here led really sheltered lives or are we just being silly because BB on?
I could'nt even count the times i've told someone 'I'll rip your ****ing head off you ****'
It doesn't mean that i am actually literally gonna tear somebodies head from their shoulders:joker:
We've all got pasts and many people change for the better.James C has done nothing but act with decorum and manners in the BB house.He has'nt even had an argument or said a nasty word to anyone.He has'nt touched anyone.
Take Austin who kicked and stuck his finger between a man arse cheeks and does'nt even get a warning and people want James C dragged over hot coals for an obviously non literal comment.

You piece of **** you :joker: only joking,good post

[sungrass]

Violent ****er eh.

How nice.

The Scotts like this sort of thing as they are embarrassed about their history with England. They like to pretend we re scared of them. :hee:

[sungrass]

What I took from last night is, he is biting his tongue and playing the game,
Outside the house he would be putting people in their place but does not want to show that side of his personality in the house.

Our we seeing the real James c or him acting, I think ts an act, could he of stoped some of the confrontations by stepping in as the house dad?, yes he could but that would mean having an opinion.

Definately!!!

[Kazanne]

The Scotts like this sort of thing as they are embarrassed about their history with England. They like to pretend we re scared of them. :hee:

That's a rather sweeping statement

[sungrass]

:wavey:That's a rather sweeping statement

its only a wee joke - my partner is Scotts!

[user104658]

You piece of **** you

I know I can't believe that NM is on here threatening to decapitate people who have been nothing but respectful to him. It's really sad to see someone who is such a nice person and a wise poster acting like SUCH A LITTLE BITCH!

[Northern Monkey]

:joker:

I do think James C is a boring hm and he's not really suited to BB and i know he's an actor but I don't think he's acting in there.I'm maybe naive but I think he's probably a bloke who's had a not whiter than white past.Got into a few pub brawls and possibly had a short temper but has made a conscious effort to be a better man after realising that it's a nicer way to live.He's probably worked on his anger in the past and wants to be a good family man now.

[Kazanne]

I know I can't believe that NM is on here threatening to decapitate people who have been nothing but respectful to him. It's really sad to see someone who is such a nice person and a wise poster acting like SUCH A LITTLE BITCH!

:joker::joker: ban him

[jennyjuniper]

I find it hilarious that some people liked him until he nominated Spiedi , now he is being called all sorts when he is the same guy they liked before:joker: who has he called names ? and he certainly hasn't called anyone a piece of ****.

I liked him from the start, but I liked him even more after he nominated Speidi.:laugh::dance:

[jennyjuniper]

Never mind the nose James, give the toerag a good old Glaswegian lullaby. :)

[Kazanne]

Never mind the nose James, give the toerag a good old Glaswegian lullaby. :)

:joker::joker:

[Vanessa]

He wants to win. He knows that if he answers back he will lose and he can't have that.

[Kazanne]

He wants to win. He knows that if he answers back he will lose and he can't have that.

Well they ALL want to win Vanessa otherwise why bother going in.

[Vanessa]

Well they ALL want to win Vanessa otherwise why bother going in.

Yes, but when you're playing the game you need to be honest about it. He pretends it's all new to him, but i think that's not true. He's friends with James Whale and he would have told him all about the show.

[Kazanne]

Yes, but when you're playing the game you need to be honest about it. He pretends it's all new to him, but i think that's not true. He's friends with James Whale and he would have told him all about the show.

There is a difference between hearing about the show and actually being in it though,Spiedi know it warts and all,I doubt very much James does,whatever he has been told(we don't know that for sure) but whatever,would not be the same as actually living there.

[Vanessa]

There is a difference between hearing about the show and actually being in it though,Spiedi know it warts and all,I doubt very much James does,whatever he has been told(we don't know that for sure) but whatever,would not be the same as actually living there.

I agree, but i just don't buy his innocent little me act.

[Kazanne]

I agree, but i just don't buy his innocent little me act.

And that's fine,I think he's pretty genuine.:wavey:

[mr rochester]

He was in BOTs in the summer as he is friends with James Whale, I very much doubt he went in without doing his research

Exactly! Cosmo knows exactly what he is doing. He feigns ignorance but I don't buy it. If he wins what will he have contributed apart from constantly smoking?

[Vanessa]

Exactly! Cosmo knows exactly what he is doing. He feigns ignorance but I don't buy it. If he wins what will he have contributed apart from constantly smoking?

:clap1:

[Cherie]

Exactly! Cosmo knows exactly what he is doing. He feigns ignorance but I don't buy it. If he wins what will he have contributed apart from constantly smoking?

Nice to see you Mr Rochester :love:

[Gusto Brunt]

Good job Spencer didn't speak to the young James C.

Spencer'd be smeared all over the walls. :eek:

[Kazanne]

Exactly! Cosmo knows exactly what he is doing. He feigns ignorance but I don't buy it. If he wins what will he have contributed apart from constantly smoking?

He's contributed one of the best melt downs on here due to his nomination of Speidi,(much like the lovely Jason did last year)plus he's woke the sleepy heads up,you'de think Spiedi fans would at least be grateful for that:hehe:

[Vanessa]

James and Coleen are starting to piss me off. All they do is sit in the smoking area and bitch about Spencer. Coleen even trying to get James to fight Spencer :nono: They're both very judgimental and misery guts, always moaning. Did they think they were going to some kind of holiday camp?:fist:

[Beso]

Hes only been married 16 yrs so he was a nasty bloke a lot longer than this so called saint we are watching.

He was violent, wouldnt surprise me if it was with women as well as men.

[MrWong]

I rest my case

You forgot this bit..

His convo with Coleen suggests otherwise.

Judging by tonight's show Coleen has concerns too.