If nicola wasn't a white woman, would she still be in the house.

[Beso]

To put it simply, no i don't think so sonny jim.

[Firewire]

Probably

[Ronald.]

Good question. R.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

You know damn well it's hell no especially with all the outrage she caused with the children comment

[Niamh.]

Not a chance, she's nasty, Stacy was loud but not nasty

[chuff me dizzy]

Sweet Jesus, out comes the race card :bored:

[user104658]

It wasn't VTE so... frankly... yes. I don't think many people in the UK have a clue who Stacy is and, also, Scientology is creepy AF. I think those factors have much more to do with her leaving than skin colour. I dislike Nicola but... :shrug:...

[Perpetual]

:conf: Why on earth are you seeing a race issue, when there so obviously isn't one?

[Niamh.]

:conf: Why on earth are you seeing a race issue, when there so obviously isn't one?

It is true though that black women get called aggressive much faster than a white woman would even if she's more so like in this case imo anyway

[StephenPullen]

Nicola is an AWW - Angry White Woman.

[chuff me dizzy]

Nicola is an AWW - Angry White Woman.

Wow try saying "Angry black woman " on here and see who long it takes to get a ban

[Niamh.]

Wow try saying "Angry black woman " on here and see who long it takes to get a ban

Big difference Chuff there is no stereo type attached to white women like there is to black women so it's not even comparable really

[user104658]

Big difference Chuff there is no stereo type attached to white women like there is to black women so it's not even comparable really

Except that they can't dance :hehe:.

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[chuff me dizzy]

Big difference Chuff there is no stereo type attached to white women like there is to black women so it's not even comparable really

Of course there is

[Liam-]

Yes, because she's iconic

[Niamh.]

Except that they can't dance :hehe:.

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Well in my case I fit that stereotype perfectly I'm afraid :fan: I do a mean chicken dance though

Of course there is

There really isn't

[Perpetual]

This thread is a joke. :joker:

[Robodog]

As relevant as her hair colour

[Crimson Dynamo]

She would have a bigger fan club

[Cal.]

She would have a bigger fan club

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[Alf]

Are you saying, the Big brother fans, who actually vote, are racist?

If you thought that, then why wouldn't you boycott the show?

[rionablue]

I cant see and have never seen racism and I wouldnt even start a thread about it but for what its worth Nicola is well known in the UK very very few people knew Stacy I had seen her on American X factor but if she had passed me on the street I wouldnt know it. Yes Nicola is a bitch but Stacy was aggressive and in peoples faces and WOULDNT LET ANYTHING GO. She couldnt get her head around the fact that new housemates are STILL HOUSEMATES

[ebandit]

.............without those huge breasts...where? would she be..........

Mark L

[Beso]

Are you saying, the Big brother fans, who actually vote, are racist?

If you thought that, then why wouldn't you boycott the show?

yeah, but they just don't know it yet.

just look at past evictions and reactions etc etc to all the bolshy black women in bb history..it's as clear as day to me that fiesty black women get frowned upon by the public whilst the same fiesty white women are somewhat applauded by the same bunch of people....it's in some peoples genes to see the colour first and make a judgement on that rather than the person...evictions, popularity polls etc etc etc in the past prove this to me without any doubt whatsoever.

[Niamh.]

yeah, but they just don't know it yet.

just look at past evictions and reactions etc etc to all the bolshy black women in bb history..it's as clear as day to me that fiesty black women get frowned upon by the public whilst the same fiesty white women are somewhat applauded by the same bunch of people....it's in some peoples genes to see the colour first and make a judgement on that rather than the person...evictions, popularity polls etc etc etc in the past prove this to me without any doubt whatsoever.

Totally agree pamnion, I do believe people don't even do it consciously (most people anyway)

[Tom4784]

It's hard to not notice that black women, more often than not, get a rough deal on BB.

I don't think Nicola would have survived the vote if she was black and Stacy would have likely stayed if she was white.

[chuff me dizzy]

It's hard to not notice that black women, more often than not, get a rough deal on BB.

I don't think Nicola would have survived the vote if she was black and Stacy would have likely stayed if she was white.

Oh please :facepalm:

[Tom4784]

Oh please :facepalm:

Good counter argument there!

[Beso]

Totally agree pamnion, I do believe people don't even do it consciously (most people anyway)


:thumbs:

[Beso]

It's hard to not notice that black women, more often than not, get a rough deal on BB.

I don't think Nicola would have survived the vote if she was black and Stacy would have likely stayed if she was white.

:thumbs:

[hazyjo]

FFS I can't believe this thread. If you look at the recent black women who have been evicted, they are often quite similar, and American and fairly unknown here (in BB - not in life, before someone lynches me lol). Anyone who happens to be black (or other) and happens to be nice have done well generally. tbh I think there's a lot of people who would love to see Nicola up for eviction and gone! We've just not really had a chance, especially with VTS.

[Beso]

Big difference Chuff there is no stereo type attached to white women like there is to black women so it's not even comparable really

Why do they get all the stereotypes its not fair.

Quick question though, if i or any fm were to syereotype geordie lasses or scots etc would that receive an infraction?

[Beso]

FFS I can't believe this thread. If you look at the recent black women who have been evicted, they are often quite similar, and American and fairly unknown here (in BB - not in life, before someone lynches me lol). Anyone who happens to be black (or other) and happens to be nice have done well generally. tbh I think there's a lot of people who would love to see Nicola up for eviction and gone! We've just not really had a chance, especially with VTS.

Really!...what about civilian bb when the hms are unknown and dont already have a following...then go to wikipedia and compare how many stayed over a white chick when it was one on one...dont come back and say makosi did either cause it eas just her amazing amazon booty that kept her in.

[Niamh.]

Why do they get all the stereotypes its not fair.

Quick question though, if i or any fm were to syereotype geordie lasses or scots etc would that receive an infraction?

Depends on the context I guess, if it was really insulting then yeah but if it was something like Oh you're Irish you must like Potatoes then no (mostly cos that's true :fan: )

[Beso]

Depends on the context I guess, if it was really insulting then yeah but if it was something like Oh you're Irish you must like Potatoes then no (mostly cos that's true :fan: )

Ok, thanks for the answer.

We dont mention chicken though right?

[Niamh.]

Ok, thanks for the answer.

We dont mention chicken though right?

no :nono:

[hazyjo]

Really!...what about civilian bb when the hms are unknown and dont already have a following...then go to wikipedia and compare how many stayed over a white chick when it was one on one...dont come back and say makosi did either cause it eas just her amazing amazon booty that kept her in.

Was thinking more in the way of Brian Belo who I certainly didn't know before BB, and Shilpa who came across as lovely, and there was Darren (BB1) and Alison (daytime telly). tbh, I don't notice or care about colour, I care about if I like them! If they were sky blue pink with red spots, it wouldn't change my opinion. Makosi was a nightmare!

[Tom4784]

FFS I can't believe this thread. If you look at the recent black women who have been evicted, they are often quite similar, and American and fairly unknown here (in BB - not in life, before someone lynches me lol). Anyone who happens to be black (or other) and happens to be nice have done well generally. tbh I think there's a lot of people who would love to see Nicola up for eviction and gone! We've just not really had a chance, especially with VTS.

I'd disagree. I think the most recent ones that have done well (only Gina and Tiffany spring to mind) still fell victim to the 'Angry Black Woman' edit at points before the producers changed the narrative for them.

Plus you've got HMs like Allison who weren't victims of editing but were still evicted early anyway despite being a lovely HM that really raise questions.

[hazyjo]

I'd disagree. I think the most recent ones that have done well (only Gina and Tiffany spring to mind) still fell victim to the 'Angry Black Woman' edit at points before the producers changed the narrative for them.

Plus you've got HMs like Allison who weren't victims of editing but were still evicted early anyway despite being a lovely HM that really raise questions.

tbf, Alison didn't actually come across so well in the house from what I remember. I think she was a bit bossy or moody, I forget. I definitely know she wasn't a fave of mine. I think I liked Audley. He came second. And I loved Derek from the early ones! There are never as many black people as white in there, and most white people don't do so great either lol! I really think people overthink it when it comes to colour. The day when nobody notices or cares what colour people are is the day we're all equal.

[Niamh.]

tbf, Alison didn't actually come across so well in the house from what I remember. I think she was a bit bossy or moody, I forget. I definitely know she wasn't a fave of mine. I think I liked Audley. He came second. And I loved Derek from the early ones! There are never as many black people as white in there, and most white people don't do so great either lol! I really think people overthink it when it comes to colour. The day when nobody notices or cares what colour people are is the day we're all equal.

It's black women that seem to get the worst deal though rather than black men on TV etc

[Denver]

It is down to the black women they cast not the public they usually cast nasty vile ones and the odd time they let a Tiffany or Gina slip through

[Tom4784]

It is down to the black women they cast not the public they usually cast nasty vile ones and the odd time they let a Tiffany or Gina slip through

I think it's a mix of both.

BB, more often the not, only tend to cast black women that can be edited as the ABW stereotype and the public for typically not supporting black females in general regardless.

[Headie]

It is down to the black women they cast not the public they usually cast nasty vile ones and the odd time they let a Tiffany or Gina slip through

Thing is they cast Natalie last year and I honestly see so many similarities between her and Kim yet she was loathed

[Ashley.]

Thing is they cast Natalie last year and I honestly see so many similarities between her and Kim yet she was loathed

Isn't Kim quite unpopular with the public, too?

[Denver]

Thing is they cast Natalie last year and I honestly see so many similarities between her and Kim yet she was loathed

I love Nat but she was a loud mouth and was always going in VTE where as VTS she would have lasted near the end

[Ashley.]

She would have a bigger fan club

:laugh2:

[Northern Monkey]

It wasn't VTE so... frankly... yes. I don't think many people in the UK have a clue who Stacy is and, also, Scientology is creepy AF. I think those factors have much more to do with her leaving than skin colour. I dislike Nicola but... :shrug:...

Totally this.If only we could've seen more of interview and BOTS Stacy in the house.I liked her but she was seen to be one dimensional in the house.

[Headie]

Isn't Kim quite unpopular with the public, too?

She's second fave to win (I think) but I was more speaking about online forums/social media etc.

I love Nat but she was a loud mouth and was always going in VTE where as VTS she would have lasted near the end

True but she probs would've gone in VTS as well, my point is that Natalie was almost universally hated whilst Kim had plenty of adorers

[Denver]

She's second fave to win (I think) but I was more speaking about online forums/social media etc.



True but she probs would've gone in VTS as well, my point is that Natalie was almost universally hated whilst Kim had plenty of adorers

I think it because Natalie argued from the off and people waned the light stuff where with Kim she came in half way and revitalised the series

[Beso]

I have just had a look on wikipedia and got up to bb3.

Very interesting as everytime a hm who wasnt white was up for eviction they went..the ones who made the final were out first apart from dean who was beaten by elizabeth she got 2% he got 5%...cant be bothered to go through the rest of them but i cant see it being much different.

[Brother Leon]

Probably not. Neither would Kim or Speidi too tbf.

[Beso]

Its to much of a coincidence for it not to be sub concious racism.