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Liberty4eva
27-01-2017, 03:27 AM
They showed Theresa May's speech today on FOX and she seemed very charming. What do you think of her being the first foreign leader to meet Trump? An honor or just groveling? :conf:

Scarlett.
27-01-2017, 03:45 AM
Honestly, if we really are going Hard Brexit, it's probably one of the only lifelines we'll have, despite how much I hate Trump. I'd rather we'd just stay closer to our European allies than have to rely on the custom of one country.

arista
27-01-2017, 04:30 AM
They showed Theresa May's speech today on FOX and she seemed very charming. What do you think of her being the first foreign leader to meet Trump? An honor or just groveling? :conf:


Of Course it a good thing
Trump and May
both want everyone in jobs
working to make both nations good.


Liberty
nice of you to return
Keep Your Chin UP


On FoxNewsHD
SkyNewsHD CNN HD because of the start time



[B]Bloomberg and CNBC had numbers and
side DATA while she was Live,

5 HD TV's
2 HDMI desktops

by the Next USA Election
I will need 9 HD LIVE TV feeds
my engineer said it will be done.
So long as their is No War on
then its to the Bunker.


Same thing My Thread
about our PM at that event,
we do not need to be merged.
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=315629

Liberty4eva
27-01-2017, 05:30 AM
Of Course it a good thing
Trump and May
both want everyone in jobs
working to make both nations good.


Liberty
nice of you to return
Keep Your Chin UP


On FoxNewsHD
SkyNewsHD CNN HD because of the start time



[B]Bloomberg and CNBC had numbers and
side DATA while she was Live,

5 HD TV's
2 HDMI desktops

by the Next USA Election
I will need 9 HD LIVE TV feeds
my engineer said it will be done.
So long as their is No War on
then its to the Bunker.


Same thing My Thread
about our PM at that event,
we do not need to be merged.
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=315629

Thanks Arista! Yeah, it's been a while since I posted here.

arista
27-01-2017, 06:04 AM
Thanks Arista! Yeah, it's been a while since I posted here.



Keep making ANY NEWS
threads

Even if its about the cost of a burger on LA
it matters,

I knew a Mexican Lady (July 2001)
who worked in McD at one shift
then the AM shift to that Better Burger King
she ran out of Tea bags so I said pop this Pure Kenya Tea
bag in your Hot Water
and charge as normal for Tea
she did that.

Just down from Hollywood Boulevard
past that REAL Old Hotel


She said how do I stay that Fit?
I said Super Fast Running
then a rest,
then repeat

You can meet me for the next session
at the weekend as you are not on a shift.....

Cops did not like Super Fast Running
I said that's OK to check me
I showed him my UK passport
and the address I was staying
he took notes
and he then said if we, are driving down this street
DO NOT OVER TAKE US - I said DEAL.
and shook his hand,



Make America Great Again
I love

Withano
27-01-2017, 07:12 AM
Friends close, enemies closer

And after Brexit, an enemy will have to do

user104658
27-01-2017, 07:35 AM
Hitching our struggling wagon to a country that is quite blatantly in the middle of self-destructing seems like a superb idea to me. I mean, at least we're consistent in our unfathomable self harm.

Remember how brexitbuddies insisted all through Brexit that it was awesome that we were going to forge strong links with emerging economies like China, Brazil and India? And now those same brexitbuddies are trying to convince us that, contrary to that, it's actually the USA we want to cuddle up with? :joker: Any way the wind blows for some, I guess.

arista
27-01-2017, 08:31 AM
"emerging economies like China, Brazil and India?"

Yes TS
its now USA, India , China and Brazil and Down Under

India is beating some
China prices on some products

So they are number 2 on OUR list

user104658
27-01-2017, 09:51 AM
"emerging economies like China, Brazil and India?"

Yes TS
its now USA, India , China and Brazil and Down Under

India is beating some
China prices on some products

So they are number 2 on OUR list

You think that a Trump-fronted US is going to allow us to be in bed with China and the US at the same time? Nonsense. This is the "have our cake and eat it too" attitude I'm frequently seeing from Brexitbuddies. It's not going to work like that.

jaxie
27-01-2017, 10:30 AM
[QUOTE=Toy Soldier;9182650]You think that a Trump-fronted US is going to allow us to be in bed with China and the US at the same time? Nonsense. This is the "have our cake and eat it too" attitude I'm frequently seeing from Brexitbuddies. It's not going to work like that.[/QUOTE,]

Weren't you just complaining about the term remoaner?

jaxie
27-01-2017, 10:34 AM
We've been allies of the US for many years and it doesn't seem a huge stretch that one of our strongest allies is one of the first places we turn when looking for new trade deals.

Theresa May is doing her job. Her job is have a working relationship with the president of the USA, regardless of what anyone thinks of him. Corbin would do well to note that if he has aspirations to ever win an election.

user104658
27-01-2017, 11:20 AM
Weren't you just complaining about the term remoaner?

I'm sure you're thinking of someone else.

Alf
27-01-2017, 12:09 PM
The new Reagan and Thatcher.

Making the World safe again


They will hold a joint press conference today at 6pm UK time.

Crimson Dynamo
27-01-2017, 12:17 PM
As long as he does not waterboard her pussy it should be ok

Tom4784
27-01-2017, 12:27 PM
It's grim. Being George Bush's sidekicks when we didn't need to be was embarrassing enough, it's going to be unbearable to have to be Trump's bitches because we have no other options... But yay! Voting to leave the EU with no plan in place from the Leave campaign was obviously the smart thing to do!

Northern Monkey
27-01-2017, 12:32 PM
We've been allies of the US for many years and it doesn't seem a huge stretch that one of our strongest allies is one of the first places we turn when looking for new trade deals.

Theresa May is doing her job. Her job is have a working relationship with the president of the USA, regardless of what anyone thinks of him. Corbin would do well to note that if he has aspirations to ever win an election.Took the words right out of my fingers.Why would we not want to be on good terms with the US?

user104658
27-01-2017, 12:36 PM
Took the words right out of my fingers.Why would we not want to be on good terms with the US?

Preach it Hugh;

2tAi1-0F7iY


The US will never see the UK as anything but it's "51st state", it's sidekick li'l bitch. May weasling up beside Trump is utterly pathetic, and the very people who talk about the UK being subservient to the EU seem to be all for it :facepalm:. Not happy to play underdog to the EU but perfectly happy to get on all fours and display our pink little rump to Daddy Trump. Why? Do you think Britain is strong and can stand alone or not?? Decide! PLEASE.

Northern Monkey
27-01-2017, 01:06 PM
Preach it Hugh;

2tAi1-0F7iY


The US will never see the UK as anything but it's "51st state", it's sidekick li'l bitch. May weasling up beside Trump is utterly pathetic, and the very people who talk about the UK being subservient to the EU seem to be all for it :facepalm:. Not happy to play underdog to the EU but perfectly happy to get on all fours and display our pink little rump to Daddy Trump. Why? Do you think Britain is strong and can stand alone or not?? Decide! PLEASE.

Standing alone doesn't mean cutting all ties with your allies(including the countries of the EU).Trade has to be done and deals have to be done.
The EU is also going to have to work with Trump aswell.All countries who want to trade with the US are.We may not like him but he does look much more favourably on the UK than Obama did.If he's offering us a good deal and telling us that we're at the front of the queue we would be fools not to take advantage of the situation.
I'm sure Theresa May isn't fond of him either but she seems to be acting professionally and getting on with the job.She's been to other countries aswell as America.It's only going to put us in a stronger position during Brexit negotiations.
We don't have to be Trumps bitch to do a trade deal with the US.Theresa seems like a strong leader so far and i can't see her getting pushed around by Trump or getting dragged into anything she doesn't think is in our best interests.

jaxie
27-01-2017, 04:22 PM
Preach it Hugh;

2tAi1-0F7iY


The US will never see the UK as anything but it's "51st state", it's sidekick li'l bitch. May weasling up beside Trump is utterly pathetic, and the very people who talk about the UK being subservient to the EU seem to be all for it :facepalm:. Not happy to play underdog to the EU but perfectly happy to get on all fours and display our pink little rump to Daddy Trump. Why? Do you think Britain is strong and can stand alone or not?? Decide! PLEASE.

So you think standing alone means not having relationships with any other nations? What a weird perspective you have TS.

Please don't post things about little pink rumps, I now have a mental image of Nicola Sturgeon I never wanted to see. :nono:

Kizzy
27-01-2017, 04:41 PM
If you knew a crazy person with a nuclear bomb, would you be nice to him or call him a twat?...

That said I don't trust this govt, I wouldn't trust them with my dog let alone a country.

user104658
27-01-2017, 05:34 PM
So you think standing alone means not having relationships with any other nations? What a weird perspective you have TS.

Please don't post things about little pink rumps, I now have a mental image of Nicola Sturgeon I never wanted to see. :nono:
Of course we need to have trade deals... I just find it fascinating that people who are so terrified of "EU overlords" are perfectly happy to see their precious Bwitain sold off piece by piece to US based privatisation.

Tom4784
27-01-2017, 05:44 PM
Of course we need to have trade deals... I just find it fascinating that people who are so terrified of "EU overlords" are perfectly happy to see their precious Bwitain sold off piece by piece to US based privatisation.

Pretty much, it highlights the fact that Brexit wasn't so much about escaping EU's 'Tyranny' as Leave voters would have us believe as it was about that other major issue that defined the referendum....

Crimson Dynamo
27-01-2017, 05:52 PM
Pretty much, it highlights the fact that Brexit wasn't so much about escaping EU's 'Tyranny' as Leave voters would have us believe as it was about that other major issue that defined the referendum....

crystal ball alert

Crimson Dynamo
27-01-2017, 05:55 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/01/27/17/3C9268CF00000578-4164078-image-a-79_1485537968708.jpg

Tregard
27-01-2017, 05:59 PM
It's not going to do the UK any favours with everyone OTHER than the US, that's for sure

Crimson Dynamo
27-01-2017, 06:04 PM
It's not going to do the UK any favours with everyone OTHER than the US, that's for sure

and how do you work that out

you seem to be privy to information that our Government do not have so please tell us?

user104658
27-01-2017, 06:05 PM
crystal ball alert
Doesn't apply in any way to the post you just quoted LT. You need to click "back" and then select another one of your stock phrases.

Crimson Dynamo
27-01-2017, 06:08 PM
Doesn't apply in any way to the post you just quoted LT. You need to click "back" and then select another one of your stock phrases.

really show me a post where I have used that before then?

I will put the kettle on meanwhile

:)

Tom4784
27-01-2017, 06:08 PM
crystal ball alert

I'm going to explain how time works since you seem a little bit confused.

You see, the referendum happened in what is now called the past, that means it's already happened. This stuff about a deal with the US and how it's kind of hypocritical for Brexit voters to want us to be Trump's bitches yet oppose us being in the EU because they don't want us to be the EU's bitches is happening in what's known as the present.

Your comment suggested that I was making predictions for something that hasn't happened yet, that's called the future.

Taking a fact from the past and present to make a statement doesn't really make it a prediction for the future but that's okay, I'm sure some other people struggle with the concept of time too :hug:

Kizzy
27-01-2017, 06:13 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/01/27/17/3C9268CF00000578-4164078-image-a-79_1485537968708.jpg

That's it Theresa, keep your pussy out of grabbing distance.

arista
27-01-2017, 06:15 PM
UK PM and USA President
Both LIVE all media and radio

NOW

Alf
27-01-2017, 06:16 PM
Trump will make a state visit the UK later this year.

Tom4784
27-01-2017, 06:17 PM
Trump will make a state visit the UK later this year.

He can send a thank you note, no need to darken our doorstep.

Alf
27-01-2017, 06:18 PM
Trump will be speaking to Putin tomorrow.

arista
27-01-2017, 06:19 PM
"If you knew a crazy person with a nuclear bomb, would you be nice to him"


YES KIZZY


bunker fully stocked

user104658
27-01-2017, 06:19 PM
really show me a post where I have used that before then?

I will put the kettle on meanwhile

:)
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8768813&postcount=263

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9178178&postcount=113

To be fair to you though, it's actually mainly been other Trumpettes using it more than you. But I assume the stock phrase generator is shared or something. It's the only explanation I can think of.

arista
27-01-2017, 06:20 PM
Trump will be speaking to Putin tomorrow.


Yes Busy First Month
Alf

Tom4784
27-01-2017, 06:21 PM
Trump will be speaking to Putin tomorrow.

Trump meeting his new boss?

Kizzy
27-01-2017, 06:21 PM
Well.... Laura...you have just redeemed yourself for me!! What a question :laugh: Theresa almost **** herself!

Alf
27-01-2017, 06:23 PM
Well.... Laura...you have just redeemed yourself for me!! What a question :laugh: Theresa almost **** herself!Was that the BBC question?

What a let down to us that stupid bitch was.

Kizzy
27-01-2017, 06:25 PM
She asked about his comments on torture and abortion.

Crimson Dynamo
27-01-2017, 06:27 PM
I'm going to explain how time works since you seem a little bit confused.

You see, the referendum happened in what is now called the past, that means it's already happened. This stuff about a deal with the US and how it's kind of hypocritical for Brexit voters to want us to be Trump's bitches yet oppose us being in the EU because they don't want us to be the EU's bitches is happening in what's known as the present.

Your comment suggested that I was making predictions for something that hasn't happened yet, that's called the future.

Taking a fact from the past and present to make a statement doesn't really make it a prediction for the future but that's okay, I'm sure some other people struggle with the concept of time too :hug:

Pretty much, it highlights the fact that Brexit wasn't so much about escaping EU's 'Tyranny' as Leave voters would have us belief

just you thinking you know exactly why people voted as per

:idc:

and by the way, you got the ref and the usa elections totally wrong didnt you?:joker:

arista
27-01-2017, 06:28 PM
Trump meeting his new boss?


No Dezzy
he just said Live we will talk
with Putin
we may get on
or we may not get on.




Russia a Big Nation
but no match to USA

Feel The Force

Alf
27-01-2017, 06:32 PM
She asked about his comments on torture and abortion.Exactly, is that what you think the majority of Brits really wanted to know about?

arista
27-01-2017, 06:36 PM
Was that the BBC question?

What a let down to us that stupid bitch was.


Yes Typical Brit LEFT WING
bbc

Tom4784
27-01-2017, 06:42 PM
Pretty much, it highlights the fact that Brexit wasn't so much about escaping EU's 'Tyranny' as Leave voters would have us belief

just you thinking you know exactly why people voted as per

:idc:

and by the way, you got the ref and the usa elections totally wrong didnt you?:joker:

That was an opinion based on logic, I didn't think I needed to write 'in my opinion' on everything since I thought it was obvious and you could tell the difference between stating an opinion and stating a fact but I guess I overestimated you but don't worry, I'll be sure to try to explain things in greater detail in the future so you can understand and follow the topic like everyone else :)

As for your last line it doesn't make much sense. I was obviously talking about Leave Voters in the Referendum being happy enough to depend on the US when they opposed the EU for similar reasons.

Did you think I was talking about the election and tried to pull me up on it to score points? Oh dear...

user104658
27-01-2017, 06:49 PM
Pretty much, it highlights the fact that Brexit wasn't so much about escaping EU's 'Tyranny' as Leave voters would have us belief

just you thinking you know exactly why people voted as per

:idc:

and by the way, you got the ref and the usa elections totally wrong didnt you?:joker:
It's called deductive reasoning LT. If someone claims that they supported Brexit because they are concerned for Britain's autonomy, but then are happy to lose some of that autonomy elsewhere, then we can more confidently assume that their reasons were in fact... Other.

Sometimes also called top-down logic. It doesn't involve crystal balls or, in fact, any other form of mysticism.

You could look it up or something. If interested. I doubt you are.

Livia
27-01-2017, 06:50 PM
A strong relationship with the USA is vital for us. The fact that it's Trump we have to deal with right now is unfortunate.

Kizzy
27-01-2017, 06:58 PM
Exactly, is that what you think the majority of Brits really wanted to know about?

Er, yeah... I did.

jaxie
27-01-2017, 07:06 PM
I wonder if we need a new thread on whether the loony left understands tact and diplomacy. :shrug:

DemolitionRed
27-01-2017, 07:34 PM
Trump meeting his new boss?

you just made me spit my coffee :hee:

Brillopad
27-01-2017, 08:06 PM
If you knew a crazy person with a nuclear bomb, would you be nice to him or call him a twat?...

That said I don't trust this govt, I wouldn't trust them with my dog let alone a country.

Don't much like a crazy person without a bomb to protect his country aka Corben if he ever got in power.

Tom4784
27-01-2017, 08:15 PM
I wonder if we need a new thread on whether the loony left understands tact and diplomacy. :shrug:

Please tell me more.

DemolitionRed
27-01-2017, 08:21 PM
Don't much like a crazy person without a bomb to protect his country aka Corben if he ever got in power.

The problem with Corbyn (not Corben) is, he suffers humanity, a disease that the many right wingers have an immunity to.

jaxie
27-01-2017, 08:43 PM
The problem with Corbyn (not Corben) is, he suffers humanity, a disease that the many right wingers have an immunity to.

Is that why he is so unpopular in the polls? I did wonder.

Brillopad
27-01-2017, 08:57 PM
The problem with Corbyn (not Corben) is, he suffers humanity, a disease that the many right wingers have an immunity to.

There is humanity and there is stupidity. It isn't either very bright or very humane to put a a bullseye on the back of your fellow countrymen and wait for them be blown into the stratosphere.

Brother Leon
27-01-2017, 09:01 PM
Not much choice is there after a Brexit with no strategy or plan.

user104658
27-01-2017, 09:11 PM
There is humanity and there is stupidity. It isn't either very bright or very humane to put a a bullseye on the back of your fellow countrymen and wait for them be blown into the stratosphere.
The irony lies in you not understanding that Trident ensures that there IS a big red bullseye painted on Glasgow in the event of a nuclear attack.

Crimson Dynamo
27-01-2017, 09:23 PM
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8768813&postcount=263

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9178178&postcount=113

To be fair to you though, it's actually mainly been other Trumpettes using it more than you. But I assume the stock phrase generator is shared or something. It's the only explanation I can think of.

Twice in 6 months and its a routine?

I will inform Jan

Kizzy
27-01-2017, 09:38 PM
There is humanity and there is stupidity. It isn't either very bright or very humane to put a a bullseye on the back of your fellow countrymen and wait for them be blown into the stratosphere.

Isn't sending young men and women off to warzones with a target on the back of their head stupid?

It's never their kids..have you noticed that? Just us shmucks raising kids loving and cherishing them for them to be blown to bits.

Who is really placing the targets, the diplomats or the warmongers?

DemolitionRed
27-01-2017, 10:17 PM
Is that why he is so unpopular in the polls? I did wonder.

Yes and that's why its so worrying.

Kizzy
27-01-2017, 11:08 PM
Don't much like a crazy person without a bomb to protect his country aka Corben if he ever got in power.

Bit judgy and baseless.

Kizzy
27-01-2017, 11:13 PM
I wonder if we need a new thread on whether the loony left understands tact and diplomacy. :shrug:

Why don't you start one? that said if your idea of tact is calling people loony you might want to let someone else do it.

jaxie
27-01-2017, 11:16 PM
Why don't you start one? that said if your idea of tact is calling people loony you might want to let someone else do it.

I know I go easy on the loonies, it's my kind heart.

user104658
27-01-2017, 11:17 PM
really show me a post where I have used that before then?

I will put the kettle on meanwhile

:)

Twice in 6 months and its a routine?

I will inform Jan


Three times for those of us who can count.

Also, you asked for "a post". I supplied you with not one, but two posts. Still wasn't good enough... ... ... I are in such a surprise.

Brillopad
28-01-2017, 09:32 AM
Bit judgy and baseless.

Hardly baseless , that is part of his plan if he were priminister.

Can anyone actually believe that disarming Britain and/or getting rid of our military would be a sane thing to do? Can anyone actually believe that would not put all of us at great risk? Can anyone actually believe that the rest of the world would follow suit and we would all live together happily ever after?

Nice little fairytale maybe!

user104658
28-01-2017, 10:37 AM
Hardly baseless , that is part of his plan if he were priminister.

Can anyone actually believe that disarming Britain and/or getting rid of our military would be a sane thing to do? Can anyone actually believe that would not put all of us at great risk? Can anyone actually believe that the rest of the world would follow suit and we would all live together happily ever after?

Nice little fairytale maybe!
Getting rid of nuclear weapons would put us at FAR less risk in the event of global war, and make absolutely ZERO difference to the extent to which we are at risk from other threats such as terrorism. So... Yeah.

Who has suggested "getting rid of the military"?