America :It Is now Simple : If you are a Legal Citizen you have no problems

[arista]

All Legal Americans
Are able to Work and Be Happy again.


I am so sorry to put this into simple words
but a lot of you "DO NOT GET IT"

He is Banning Some Extreme Muslims (Not Muslims)
Its a Temporary Order - that's what the Voters wanted

And this is a "USA TERM"
Illegal Aliens are not permitted to be in America.
Check out the UK Rock Band Genesis Song
"Illegal Alien"

Make America Great Again
means the LEFT WING mess
is getting buried 6 Feet Under.
Nothing wrong with that



Please give your views....
This is a Legit Story........


And Young Tibbers
SPEAK YOUR MIND


Sign Of The Times

[Brillopad]

All Legal Americans
Are able to Work and Be Happy again.


I am so sorry to put this into simple words
but a lot of you "DO NOT GET IT"

He is Banning Some Extreme Muslims (Not Muslims)
Its a Temporary Order - that's what the Voters wanted

And this is a "USA TERM"
Illegal Aliens are not permitted to be in America.
Check out the UK Rock Band Genesis Song
"Illegal Alien"

Make America Great Again
means the LEFT WING mess
is getting buried 6 Feet Under.
Nothing wrong with that



Please give your views....
This is a Legit Story........


And Young Tibbers
SPEAK YOUR MIND


Sign Of The Times

If they are illegal he is well within his rights. Extreme Muslims as well as they are a clear threat to everyone. America will be safer without them.

[DemolitionRed]

All Legal Americans
Are able to Work and Be Happy again.


I am so sorry to put this into simple words
but a lot of you "DO NOT GET IT"

He is Banning Some Extreme Muslims (Not Muslims)
Its a Temporary Order - that's what the Voters wanted

And this is a "USA TERM"
Illegal Aliens are not permitted to be in America.
Check out the UK Rock Band Genesis Song
"Illegal Alien"

Make America Great Again
means the LEFT WING mess
is getting buried 6 Feet Under.
Nothing wrong with that



Please give your views....
This is a Legit Story........


And Young Tibbers
SPEAK YOUR MIND


Sign Of The Times

It's not just one federal judge who have issued injunctive orders against enforcement of Trump's new Executive Order about those entering the country; it's now two, one in NYC, and another in Virginia. The federal marshalls, on Trump's new Order, are detaining legal residents, with valid "green cards:. https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/social-issues/…
These federal agents are detaining legal residents of the US, without warrants, with no criminal activity committed in the presence of authority, and without any legally sufficient probable cause to detain these travellers against their will(s). These people are being arrested (in law, detained for any reason by authorities, against the will of the detainee, who is not free to go.

That the US Constitution and Bill of Rights is being flagrantly violated, on the orders of the new President, is self-evident and has immediately resulted in the issuance of federal court orders against enforcement of President Trump's new EO.

All you have done here is to show your complete ignorance of everything - very well done and full marks for that.

[Brillopad]

It's not just one federal judge who have issued injunctive orders against enforcement of Trump's new Executive Order about those entering the country; it's now two, one in NYC, and another in Virginia. The federal marshalls, on Trump's new Order, are detaining legal residents, with valid "green cards:. https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/social-issues/…
These federal agents are detaining legal residents of the US, without warrants, with no criminal activity committed in the presence of authority, and without any legally sufficient probable cause to detain these travellers against their will(s). These people are being arrested (in law, detained for any reason by authorities, against the will of the detainee, who is not free to go.

That the US Constitution and Bill of Rights is being flagrantly violated, on the orders of the new President, is self-evident and has immediately resulted in the issuance of federal court orders against enforcement of President Trump's new EO.

All you have done here is to show your complete ignorance of everything - very well done and full marks for that.

A left-leaning newspaper's hysterical slant on the situation perhaps. Personally I would need to see a more balanced picture of events before making any rash judgements.

[DemolitionRed]

A left-leaning newspaper's hysterical slant on the situation perhaps. Personally I would need to see a more balanced picture of events before making any rash judgements.

The news is out there... everywhere
Trump has already betrayed the solemn oath he made.

[DemolitionRed]

double post

[arista]

double post


DR you can Delete Your Post
you must learn this.

[arista]

[QUOTE=DemolitionRed;9188289]The news is out there... everywhere
Trump has already betrayed the solemn oath he made.[/QUOTE


No its a Temporary Ban

Everyone on the Workers Side
that voted Trump wanted this.]

[Crimson Dynamo]

better than sitting on your hands waiting to be attacked

:clap1:

[DemolitionRed]

Washington State governor blasts Trump: inhumane, illegal, unconstitutional

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q9UojBAthg&feature=youtu.be

[Crimson Dynamo]

Washington State governor blasts Trump: inhumane, illegal, unconstitutional

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q9UojBAthg&feature=youtu.be

another greeting face loser who cant get over his fave didnt win

:idc:

[Scarlett.]

Welcome to the so called land of the free.

[Kizzy]

"The Geneva Refugee Convention requires the international community to take in refugees from war on humanitarian grounds. All signatory states are expected to do so. The Chancellor explained this policy to the US President in their call yesterday.'

Wonder when it will be explained to our govt?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/donald-trump-muslim-ban-germany-angela-merkel-immigration-refugee-executive-order-a7551641.html

[DemolitionRed]

2016 Global Democracy Index downgrades USA from a full democracy to a flawed regime

The Democracy Index is compiled by the Economist Intelligence Unit based in the United Kingdom and measures the state of democracy in 167 countries across the Globe.
http://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/news/20170128/2016-global-democracy-index-us-joins-jamaica-flawed-list

It grades countries on a scale of zero to 10 using 60 indicators across five different categories to classify them as full democracies, flawed democracies, hybrid regimes or authoritarian regimes.
Jamaica has now been joined by the United States which, for the first time in its history, has been downgraded from a full democracy to a flawed regime in the latest survey.

I wonder how much further down the list they will go with Trump at the helm.

[arista]

better than sitting on your hands waiting to be attacked

:clap1:


Bang On Right LT.

[Kizzy]

better than sitting on your hands waiting to be attacked

:clap1:

It won't prevent that, in fact it'll most likely lead to more violence.

[arista]

It won't prevent that, in fact it'll most likely lead to more violence.

Any that break USA Laws
will go to Prison
that will Correct them.

By the way Young Kizzy
My Other System
of removing all
drunks/homeless off streets
that was going to
the Former PM
of UK D.C.
will now go direct
to USA.*
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=294081
Posted on tibb Worldwide
by arista member
29th Dec 2015

*In USA there will be slight
changes
so if they are not
on Streets
and not breaking
USA Laws they will not be removed

[MB.]

another greeting face loser who cant get over his fave didnt win

:idc:

Because sitting back and watching millions of innocent people being barred from entering your country, against not just basic human rights principles but the actual Bill of Rights, and allowing Trump to do so because he's the President and there's nothing anyone can do... yeah that's the true spirit of democracy :unsure:

ps I see Mike Pence hasn't said much about this for somebody who spoke out strongly against the plan when Trump first announced it

[Brillopad]

"The Geneva Refugee Convention requires the international community to take in refugees from war on humanitarian grounds. All signatory states are expected to do so. The Chancellor explained this policy to the US President in their call yesterday.'

Wonder when it will be explained to our govt?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/donald-trump-muslim-ban-germany-angela-merkel-immigration-refugee-executive-order-a7551641.html

This should only be on a temporary basis until it is safe for them to go back or gradually be dispersed in safe nearby countries. They are not the permanent responsibility of countries that offer shelter.

[Crimson Dynamo]

cant make an omlette without breaking eggs

No move to combat terrorism will be popular

Look at the child miogrants

there was a wave of people on here defeding them until one killed them people in Germany and then

zip


not a peep



Trump could care less about upsetting a few snowflakes, his job is to protect America not sell records

:clap1:

[Brillopad]

It won't prevent that, in fact it'll most likely lead to more violence.

So we let them hold us to ransom with underlying threats. Do we really want people who do that in our countries? Ffs

And how do you know it won't prevent it - the more people who live in the West who share the same religious beliefs as those who hate the West the more westerners will be at risk. How many quietly support the hate for our countries is unknown.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Britain should follow Donald Trump's lead and introduce 'extreme vetting,' Nigel Farage says as he defends US President's immigration crackdown


Ex-Ukip leader and friend of Trump defends controversial executive order to prevent anyone entering US from seven Muslim majority countries
Says President is entitled to introduce measures in bid to crackdown on jihadis
Blames ban on Angela Merkel's open-door policy towards refugees fleeing Syria


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/01/29/12/3C9F7D0200000578-4168820-image-a-35_1485694293744.jpg

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4168820/Farage-suggests-UK-copy-Trump-s-immigration-ban.html

:clap2:

[arista]

UK not the same as USA
to many waste of space Lords etc.

[arista]

NEW Update that UK/Iraqi MP
can now go to USA

ref : all media and all radio

STOP all the fecking HYPE

[DemolitionRed]

A lot of people behind Trump on here have said "We don't have an issue with immigrants, it just the people who don't follow the rules we have an issue with!".

If that were at all true then why aren't you pissed off that a specific religion is being targeted? or angry that legal permanent residents of that country are being detained in violation of their Constitution and pissed off that legal permanent residents of that country are being threatened with deportation even though they have broken no laws?

I never thought I'd be standing on the same side as my right wing colleagues over a political matter. People who are galaxies apart from each other in political ideology that are all on the same side of this issue... if you find yourself on the other side of that issue....You haven't being paying attention or Something is seriously fcuking wrong.

[arista]

"Constitution"


yes its the Law of the Land
NYC no good crying on camera fells.



3 month ban for 7 nation's with terrorist connection
list from former president Barrack

[arista]

Britain should follow Donald Trump's lead and introduce 'extreme vetting,' Nigel Farage says as he defends US President's immigration crackdown


Ex-Ukip leader and friend of Trump defends controversial executive order to prevent anyone entering US from seven Muslim majority countries
Says President is entitled to introduce measures in bid to crackdown on jihadis
Blames ban on Angela Merkel's open-door policy towards refugees fleeing Syria


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/01/29/12/3C9F7D0200000578-4168820-image-a-35_1485694293744.jpg

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4168820/Farage-suggests-UK-copy-Trump-s-immigration-ban.html

:clap2:


Yes he understands the Law of the Land
Tip Top

[Northern Monkey]

If it was just illegals and suspected extremists then nobody could complain.If it was just vetting people from the countries identified as having extremists then nobody could complain.However that doesn't seem to be what's happening here from the looks of it.

[DemolitionRed]

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/jihadist-groups-hail-trump%E2%80%99s-travel-ban-as-a-victory/ar-AAmoJk8?li=AAggFp5

Jihadist groups on Sunday celebrated the Trump administration’s ban on travel from seven Muslim-majority countries, saying the new policy validates their claim that the United States is at war with Islam.
Comments posted to pro-Islamic State social media accounts predicted that President Trump’s executive order would persuade American Muslims to side with the extremists. One posting hailed the U.S. president as “the best caller to Islam,” while others predicted that Trump would soon launch a new war in the Middle East.

The unintended consequences of bad decisions.

[user104658]

Britain should follow Donald Trump's lead and introduce 'extreme vetting,' Nigel Farage says as he defends US President's immigration crackdown


Ex-Ukip leader and friend of Trump defends controversial executive order to prevent anyone entering US from seven Muslim majority countries
Says President is entitled to introduce measures in bid to crackdown on jihadis
Blames ban on Angela Merkel's open-door policy towards refugees fleeing Syria


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/01/29/12/3C9F7D0200000578-4168820-image-a-35_1485694293744.jpg

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4168820/Farage-suggests-UK-copy-Trump-s-immigration-ban.html

:clap2:

Oh Nigel.

I see your truuue colours shining through...
I see your truuue colours and that's why ur raaacist
so don't be afraid...
to let them show...
truuuue colours,
truuuuuue colours,
Trumps made it acceptableeeee...
to be a xenophoowww(be).


Quite blatantly his multi-decade drive for Brexit had absolutely nothing to do with trade laws et al. and everything to do with him wanting the borders closed to any "other" who might dare to darken the doors of his quaint whitey-white English football hooligan pubs.

[DemolitionRed]

Yes he understands the Law of the Land
Tip Top

He's just an opportunist media ***** and a rank hypocrite who does feck all for his money.

[Brillopad]

A lot of people behind Trump on here have said "We don't have an issue with immigrants, it just the people who don't follow the rules we have an issue with!".

If that were at all true then why aren't you pissed off that a specific religion is being targeted? or angry that legal permanent residents of that country are being detained in violation of their Constitution and pissed off that legal permanent residents of that country are being threatened with deportation even though they have broken no laws?

I never thought I'd be standing on the same side as my right wing colleagues over a political matter. People who are galaxies apart from each other in political ideology that are all on the same side of this issue... if you find yourself on the other side of that issue....You haven't being paying attention or Something is seriously fcuking wrong.

Why is it it so hard for some to comprehend that women in particular have every reason to have issues with religions that treat women like ****e? What has that got to do with race - it has far more to do with culture and mindsets. If they don't give respect why should they get it back? All the over-the-top hysterics and double standards is truly tedious.

[DemolitionRed]

Acting Attorney General Orders Justice Dept. Not to Defend Refugee Ban update... Trump fires Yates

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/acting-attorney-general-orders-justice-dept-not-to-defend-refugee-ban/ar-AAmqA6q?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

WASHINGTON — Acting Attorney General Sally Q. Yates, a holdover from the Obama administration, ordered the Justice Department on Monday not to defend President Trump’s executive order on immigration in court

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/30/us/politics/trump-immigration-ban-memo.html?_r=0

[DemolitionRed]

Trump has not banned all Muslims.He has picked specific Countries out of the largely Muslim World and ignored several Countries where Trump entities have established business relationships. Therefore if the jihadists wish to recruit, the ban is extremely easy to bypass.

Don't take my word for it:


http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Jihadist-say-Trumps-travel-ban-great-for-recruitment-480001

[Northern Monkey]

Trump has not banned all Muslims.He has picked specific Countries out of the largely Muslim World and ignored several Countries where Trump entities have established business relationships. Therefore if the jihadists wish to recruit, the ban is extremely easy to bypass.

Don't take my word for it:


http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Jihadist-say-Trumps-travel-ban-great-for-recruitment-480001

Those countries weren't actually targeted by Trump.It was actually Obama that flagged those countries as being a terror risk.
I do think Trump has gone too far though.I'm all for vetting people from risk countries but the ban has just caused chaos and if people have a green card then by definition they've already been vetted.

[user104658]

It has absolutely jack **** to do with terrorism. I'm not going to pretend to be "in the know" about the actual reasoning and nor do I think it's just "cos dey all r racists", there's clearly much more to it than that, but what I *do* know is that it will have absolutely zero impact on the risk of a major terrorist incident. It's like performing brain surgery with a ****ing sledgehammer. The plotting, scheming and organisation that goes into a major incident is not going to be interrupted by "closing the borders and airports". Not even slightly.

[DemolitionRed]

Those countries weren't actually targeted by Trump.It was actually Obama that flagged those countries as being a terror risk.
I do think Trump has gone too far though.I'm all for vetting people from risk countries but the ban has just caused chaos and if people have a green card then by definition they've already been vetted.

Yes it was and the question is, why wasn't SA on that list?

Like you, I'm all for vetting but this sort of restriction is going to have a huge impact on the workforce that come in and out of America on business visas.

And to send refugees back is to sign their death warrant.

[DemolitionRed]

It has absolutely jack **** to do with terrorism. I'm not going to pretend to be "in the know" about the actual reasoning and nor do I think it's just "cos dey all r racists", there's clearly much more to it than that, but what I *do* know is that it will have absolutely zero impact on the risk of a major terrorist incident. It's like performing brain surgery with a ****ing sledgehammer. The plotting, scheming and organisation that goes into a major incident is not going to be interrupted by "closing the borders and airports". Not even slightly.

Hehe... I'm keeping that quote.

[Northern Monkey]

Yes it was and the question is, why wasn't SA on that list?

Like you, I'm all for vetting but this sort of restriction is going to have a huge impact on the workforce that come in and out of America on business visas.

And to send refugees back is to sign their death warrant.

Yeah Trump should stick to cracking down on illegal immigration.The US should be taking refugees from the refugee camps who can be vetted first just like Britain.That be a positive move that more people could get behind.His supporters and detractors could agree on that.

[DemolitionRed]

Letter from 100-Plus National Security Leaders on Refugee Executive Order

https://lobelog.com/letter-from-100-plus-national-security-leaders-on-refugee-executive-order/

[NicolaMcSlay]

I agree you need to come usa LEGALLY, i don't get the issue with this. People want this, if they didn't they wouldn't of voted for him as president. We want America safe and not be flooding our borders with immigrants taking our jobs.