BIG mistake Twit and Twat

[chuff me dizzy]

Oh dear me, the twins finally found their gonads last night in courtroom ,not only having an attack on Nicola, but brave enough to also have a go at the rest of the hm8s ,and Austin ,its good to act Berty Big Bollox when you are protected by BB ,but if I were them i would rip up the invite to the wrap party ,because i think they are in for a big shock ,attacking Austin,JJ,Calum,Jamie and not expecting revenge ?
If i were them I would sort these brats out before they got through the wrap party doors ,real men ( not just a number on a birth certificate) will not stand for all they think they can dish out when they are wearing their 12 yr olds head
I showed my daughter (Big Jedward fan,who claims they are harmless) the courtroom clip last night, she was gobsmacked :shocked::shocked:

Bit of advice Jedward,be very careful of who you make an enemy of, BB wont always be there to protect you

[sampvt]

I doubt it will bother them Chuff. Once they get out of there, Mummy will surround them with yes men again and allow them to do al the things they love like play in the mud and talk baby talk all day long.

[Babayaro.]

:unsure:

You're actually obsessed.

[chuff me dizzy]

I doubt it will bother them Chuff. Once they get out of there, Mummy will surround them with yes men again and allow them to do al the things they love like play in the mud and talk baby talk all day long.

If I were Mummy I would strongly advise them not to go to the wrap party, grown men are not going to take abuse from 2 deluded ,nasty little twats ,Austin was ready to rip their heads off last night, you could see it in his eyes ,how dare a joke act say "This is your last time on TV "to him and not expect payback ? Silly boys

[waterhog]

its pantomime in the house and like you say when they are out they will continue surrounded by people saying how much they love them - which just feeds this.

[Babayaro.]

Also, your "real men" argument is so tedious

[chuff me dizzy]

:unsure:

You're actually obsessed.

Stick to discussing the hm8s please

[Jack_]

What actually is a 'real man' and what does embodying one entail? Because this post seems to be insinuating that to be one you must be aggressive, confrontational and dare I say even violent

[sampvt]

What actually is a 'real man' and what does embodying one entail? Because this post seems to be insinuating that to be one you must be aggressive, confrontational and dare I say even violent

Jack you well know there is no correct answer to that question so one must question the motive that you have for asking it. ''Real man'' is a colloquialism for a specific point of view. Its like asking someone to define heavenly, or explain what bromance means. In the past friends have called their best mates wankers, does that mean they walk around all day with dick in hand, of course not. Leave Chuff alone, this real man thing has run its course.

[Babayaro.]

Jack you well know there is no correct answer to that question so one must question the motive that you have for asking it. ''Real man'' is a colloquialism for a specific point of view. Its like asking someone to define heavenly, or explain what bromance means. In the past friends have called their best mates wankers, does that mean they walk around all day with dick in hand, of course not. Leave Chuff alone, this real man thing has run its course.

Glad you agree!

[Denver]

What actually is a 'real man' and what does embodying one entail? Because this post seems to be insinuating that to be one you must be aggressive, confrontational and dare I say even violent

From the poster past a real man is a straight man who cheats on hi wife and family

[Jack_]

Jack you well know there is no correct answer to that question so one must question the motive that you have for asking it. ''Real man'' is a colloquialism for a specific point of view. Its like asking someone to define heavenly, or explain what bromance means. In the past friends have called their best mates wankers, does that mean they walk around all day with dick in hand, of course not. Leave Chuff alone, this real man thing has run its course.

I'm glad you acknowledge there isn't a correct answer. That's precisely why I'm asking the question, because when someone (not just the OP) talks of how 'real men' will or would act, it's important to qualify that and find out what kind of behaviour and mannerisms constitute a 'real man'. The problem isn't so much the defining of what it is, but that in doing so you're defining what it is not. And the notion that someone may not be a 'real man' (or indeed woman) because they do or do not act in a certain manner could very well be quite offensive to some - which is the issue in the first place.

As for the bit in bold, hasn't it just.

[chuff me dizzy]

Question for all you Jedward fans .... Would they have spoken to Austin outside of the house as they did in the courtroom ? would they talk over Calum,Jamie outside the house like they've done in it ?

No they wouldn't dare ,and that my friends is the sign of a coward

[Jamie89]

Question for all you Jedward fans .... Would they have spoken to Austin outside of the house as they did in the courtroom ? would they talk over Calum,Jamie outside the house like they've done in it ?

No they wouldn't dare ,and that my friends is the sign of a coward

They'd probably do the mature thing and just walk away from him outside of the house :hee:

[sampvt]

I'm glad you acknowledge there isn't a correct answer. That's precisely why I'm asking the question, because when someone (not just the OP) talks of how 'real men' will or would act, it's important to qualify that and find out what kind of behaviour and mannerisms constitute a 'real man'. The problem isn't so much the defining of what it is, but that in doing so you're defining what it is not. And the notion that someone may not be a 'real man' (or indeed woman) because they do or do not act in a certain manner could very well be quite offensive to some - which is the issue in the first place.

As for the bit in bold, hasn't it just.

so by using that analogy, it would only be people that feel they dont fall into the category of real men that will be upset. Based on those findings, where should these outsiders sit in respect of the human gender issue. Surely its up to all of us to be allowed to be viewed however we feel we should be viewed. I think the issue here is not what a real man constitutes, but what some people perception of the real man issue means.

[chuff me dizzy]

They'd probably do the mature thing and just walk away from him outside of the house :hee:

Run more like

[sampvt]

I can put up with the inane antics like the shaving foam and the soap suds, they are just pathetic. What really gets my goat is the fake american accent and the talking to eachother in baby speak, thats a seriously psychological issue they need to be talked to about.

[chuff me dizzy]

I can put up with the inane antics like the shaving foam and the soap suds, they are just pathetic. What really gets my goat is the fake american accent and the talking to eachother in baby speak, thats a seriously psychological issue they need to be talked to about.

Something else that pisses me off is they are SO sly,sneaky ,they cannot make eye contact with anyone, even JC when he was talking nice to them in the kitchen, people who cannot look you in the eye should never be trusted,I agree Sam they have serious mental health problems

[user104658]

:joker: Are you serious Chuff? I thought you were a worldly type... you can't SERIOUSLY be trying to make out that Calum Best, Jamie and Austin and James J are some sort of violent "Hard Men" who are going to get physical with Jedward. Even if they WERE it would be a ****ing pathetic thing to do :joker:.

But yeah. They wouldn't even try. They might chip their nails.

[chuff me dizzy]

:joker: Are you serious Chuff? I thought you were a worldly type... you can't SERIOUSLY be trying to make out that Calum Best, Jamie and Austin and James J are some sort of violent "Hard Men" who are going to get physical with Jedward. Even if they WERE it would be a ****ing pathetic thing to do :joker:.

But yeah. They wouldn't even try. They might chip their nails.

Why would it be pathetic ? Jedward are 25 yr old GROWN MEN who shoot off their mouths when security is at hand, lets see how big they are when security isn't there

[ebandit]

austin was insufferable for a twit 'n twat they did a good job of putting him

in his place.............

go edward..go john.................go jedward............

Mark L

[user104658]

Why would it be pathetic ? Jedward are 25 yr old GROWN MEN who shoot off their mouths when security is at hand, lets see how big they are when security isn't there

Physically assaulting someone for being "bitchy" with you is the sign of a weak, pathetic, unintelligent manbaby. Full stop.

[sampvt]

:joker: Are you serious Chuff? I thought you were a worldly type... you can't SERIOUSLY be trying to make out that Calum Best, Jamie and Austin and James J are some sort of violent "Hard Men" who are going to get physical with Jedward. Even if they WERE it would be a ****ing pathetic thing to do :joker:.

But yeah. They wouldn't even try. They might chip their nails.

Have you ever wondered why Jedward have never appeared in a club in Doncaster or even Leeds. They would be suffering from butt hurt for weeks to come. They are a joke act for old peoples homes who cant get out of the way or are so far gone they think they are watching fred and ginger.

[chuff me dizzy]

Physically assaulting someone for being "bitchy" with you is the sign of a weak, pathetic, unintelligent manbaby. Full stop.

It was beyond bitchy

[user104658]

It was beyond bitchy

Doesn't matter. Physically attacking someone for ANYTHING they have said is weak and pathetic. I'm not sure you know any "real men" chuff :shrug:. Just violent sad li'l boys.

[chuff me dizzy]

Have you ever wondered why Jedward have never appeared in a club in Doncaster or even Leeds. They would be suffering from butt hurt for weeks to come. They are a joke act for old peoples homes who cant get out of the way or are so far gone they think they are watching fred and ginger.

Im peeing myself here silly mare :joker::joker::joker::joker: When you've got a **** joke act the best audience you can wish for is old people with dementia who cannot leave the room

[Jamie89]

When did fumes at Jedward turn into "I really hope they get attacked" anyway.. :umm2:

[user104658]

When did fumes at Jedward turn into "I really hope they get attacked" anyway.. :umm2:

For Chuff? The second they appeared on screen. Worrying, really.

[Jack_]

so by using that analogy, it would only be people that feel they dont fall into the category of real men that will be upset. Based on those findings, where should these outsiders sit in respect of the human gender issue. Surely its up to all of us to be allowed to be viewed however we feel we should be viewed. I think the issue here is not what a real man constitutes, but what some people perception of the real man issue means.

No, it would be people who feel like their very sense of self is being called into question by other people whom are trying to position their behaviour, mannerisms and characteristics as somehow not properly masculine. It goes further than that though, because ingrained within such a notion is the belief that femininity constitutes weakness and vulnerability (a separate discussion altogether) - which is a rather insulting supposition to cast upon somebody because they don't embody particular traits that make up a 'real man'.

Taken to its logical conclusion, this poisonous idea - that one is only masculine through the continual doing of certain actions - can, is and has been used to harass, bully, subjugate, assault and even kill people who don't conform to upholding 'proper' masculinity. It thus needs to be questioned and taken apart at every opportunity.

[chuff me dizzy]

For Chuff? The second they appeared on screen. Worrying, really.

Stick to the topic, not the members ...thank you

[Denver]

Disgusting wanting people to be beaten up for having fun

[chuff me dizzy]

Disgusting wanting people to be beaten up for having fun

You calling ripping into people when you have security to protect you "fun" ....Really ?

[user104658]

You calling ripping into people when you have security to protect you "fun" ....Really ?

The fact that there is security around is, or should be, irrelevant. Civilised people don't randomly physically attack others for "annoying them" or "hurting their feelings" :facepalm:.

It's nonsense anyway. As much as I dislike Jamie / Calum and co I am 100% certain that they would NOT carry out a criminal physical assault on Jedward ffs :joker:.

[Niamh.]

The fact that there is security around is, or should be, irrelevant. Civilised people don't randomly physically attack others for "annoying them" or "hurting their feelings" :facepalm:.

It's nonsense anyway. As much as I dislike Jamie / Calum and co I am 100% certain that they would NOT carry out a criminal physical assault on Jedward ffs :joker:.

Exactly and this conversation is very borderline, wishing harm on HMs is against the rules, just to remind everyone...it's a TV show, get some perspective

[chuff me dizzy]

Exactly and this conversation is very borderline, wishing harm on HMs is against the rules, just to remind everyone...it's a TV show, get some perspective

Ive not WISHED harm on anyone, I just pointed out they shouldn't be shocked if they get what they deserve

[hot2go]

If I had a son or daughter who liked Jedward I would breathe a sigh of relief instead of coercing them to attack the lads for being misfits who have the strength to not follow the crowd. In a house filled with so many generic slags, both male and female, I think its great that there's a new younger audience this time who have rejected the same old sh-te from the same old sh-te type of people.
There are worse role models than Jedward so why the hate ? Prostitutes like Kardasian or her thug husband for example....or the flood of talentless Reality TV idiots from Geordie Shore who are brain washing young people to think its OK to wrap your legs around anyone for another pint of beer....or the Essex lot who've got teenage girls filling their faces and their bodies with poison and telling them its cool...
If my daughter or son like Jedward I would be relieved not discouraging them.

[Niamh.]

Ive not WISHED harm on anyone, I just pointed out they shouldn't be shocked if they get what they deserve

So they deserve to be beaten up for being annoying? :umm2: Seriously Chuff?

[user104658]

Ive not WISHED harm on anyone, I just pointed out they shouldn't be shocked if they get what they deserve

You literally did it in the same sentence that you said you haven't :umm2:.

[Denver]

Ive not WISHED harm on anyone, I just pointed out they shouldn't be shocked if they get what they deserve

but you want to champion a real man Jamie because he had to be held back from hitting an OAP women

[chuff me dizzy]

So they deserve to be beaten up for being annoying? :umm2: Seriously Chuff?

You CANNOT talk to people like they have and not expect repercussions,ad please don't put words in my mouth I didn't say deserve to be beaten up at all ,I said they cannot expect to get away with how they have spoken to people

[Niamh.]

You CANNOT talk to people like they have and not expect repercussions

So you are condoning violence against them?

[user104658]

You CANNOT talk to people like they have and not expect repercussions
You cannot physically assault someone for any reason other than to defend yourself or someone else from actual bodily harm, and not expect to be arrested and hopefully jailed. :shrug:

[chuff me dizzy]

but you want to champion a real man Jamie because he had to be held back from hitting an OAP women

Please a post where I championed Jamie please ? Im a Kim supporter so doubt that very much don't you ? :umm2:

[chuff me dizzy]

So you are condoning violence against them?

You are not cornering me into a ban like people have done to Sam, good try though

[Niamh.]

You cannot physically assault someone for any reason other than to defend yourself or someone else from actual bodily harm, and not expect to be arrested and hopefully jailed. :shrug:

Exactly. I'm actually going to close this thread as wishing harm on HMs is against the rules